An interesting archeological site in southeastern Wisconsin is called
Aztalan State Park. There are earthen pyramids and physical evidence that the people who dwelt there were in commercial contact with peoples of the Gulf of Mexico. For still unexplained reasons, the site was suddenly abandoned around 1200-1300 A.D.
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| Platform Pyramid at Aztalan State Park in Wisconsin |
Wiki takes pains not conflate the word Aztalan with Aztlán, but the words are related:
The name Aztalan was given to this place by Mr. [H. F.] Hyer, because, according to Humboldt, the Aztecs, or ancient inhabitants of Mexico, had a tradition that their ancestors came from a country at the north, which they called Aztalan; and the possibility that these may have been remains of their occupancy, suggested the idea of restoring the name. It is made up of two Mexican words, atl, water, and an, near; and the country was probably so named from its proximity to large bodies of water. Hence the natural inference that the country about these great lakes was the ancient residence of the Aztecs.
Liberating
Aztlán is the end game for La Raza and even more sinister groups. That the ancient Aztec Empire extended to Wisconsin appears to be one gringo's fantasy. But whose fantasy is it that the Aztec Empire once included the American Southwest?
I hear more and more Mexicans talking about la raza—to build up their
pride. Some people don’t look at it as racism, but when you say ‘La
Raza,’ you are saying an anti-gringo thing, and it won’t stop there.
Today it’s anti-gringo, tomorrow it will be anti-Negro. We had a stupid
guy who just wanted to play politics with the union, and he began to
whip up La Raza against the white volunteers, and even had some of the
farm workers and the pickets and the organizers hung up on La Raza. So I
took him on. These things have to be met head on. On discrimination, I
don’t even give the members the privilege of a vote, and I’m not ashamed
of it. No, the whole business of discrimination can’t exist here. So
often, these days, the leaders are afraid, and even though they feel
strongly against racism, they will not speak out against it. If the
leadership is united, then it can say, ‘All right, if you’re going to do
things that way, then you’ll have to get rid of us.’ You have to speak
out immediately, the first time. ~ Cesar Chavez
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Will there be good burritos from our new overlords...or should we call them patrons?
There are some underwater pyramids at a place called Rock Lake. They were built and then naturally flooded at some point.
The Azzies started in central Mexico, about 100 miles from Mexico City.
Like all the other things the Lefties - including the NeverTrumpers - cook up to entice the gullible, it's complete fantasy.
The Nahuatl language group is of South West origin. Southern Ca, NM, AZ, Nv and into Co
The speculation among some actual archaeologists and linguists is that at some point, probably early in the last millineum (ad 200 or so) there was a migration south of the ancestors of the Nahuatl speaking group that would become the Aztecs.
Náhuatl is part of the Uto-Aztecan family, one of the largest Native American linguistic families. The Uto-Aztecan, or Uto-Nahuan, family includes many North American languages such as Comanche, Shoshone, Paiute, as well as Tarahumara, Cora, and Huichol in Mexico. The Nahuatl language probably originated in what is now Southwestern US.
Náhuatl is considered one of the southernmost members of the family and its speakers are believed to have entered Mesoamerica and reached Central Mexico sometimes around AD 400/500, during the Classic period.
The reason for the migration is unknown but likely climate associated as there are substantial periods of drought in the area. The Anasazi culture, likewise disappeared due to extended southwest drought.
It is speculated that IF there is a real ancestral body of water that the Nahuatl/Aztecs are referring to it might be the now evaporated Tulare Lake. Evaporated and stolen because the inflows were diverted for agriculture. This is a terrible loss of a once vital and vibrant lake. It was once the largest fresh water lake west of the Mississippi. T
This story about the Aztecs/Tulare Lake or the original origin is pretty much guess work as there are not any artifacts or structures of the proto Aztec to study.
The idea that the Aztecs were associated with a group that existed long after the Aztecs had risen to power in central Mexico and with a group that linguistically (if you use the current native groups) has no connection to the Nahutl speaking Aztecs.....is just someone's crazy pipe dream.
(My major in college was Antro/Archaeology with a Meso American concentration due to my ties to Mexico which I detailed before)
Of course, theories change with new evidence. The Aztlan story is a myth. Many myths have basis in fact. Others are just stories to make the tellers feel good about themselves. Who knows.
I am more of a Mississippian. Now there was a culture. I still build mounds. That is the way of my people.
@ Sixty.
Good idea. Those mounds come in handy as a place of refuge when the Mississippi floods wide swaths of the basin. Or used to do so before the levees were built. The reason the tops of the mounds were flat is that everyone would have a kegger and bbq while huddling together at the top of the mound. Nothing else to do but party down dude until the waters recede. (I made all that last part up but it sounds right to me)
As I have mentioned, my father lived through the big flood of '27. The stories of people seeking refuge on top of the levees is harrowing. The book Rising Tide talks about that in detail.
But, back before the Army Corps of Engineers "engineered" the river, I can't even imagine what it must have been like. A mound would indeed be a handy thing for one's tribe to have when the Father of the Waters left his banks.
I guess what bothers me is that the mounds were looted - they were treasure houses, especially the ones up in the Tennessee/Kentucky area, and now we will never know the details of what that culture was, nor what they produced and buried with their important people.
That's a great loss, in my opinion.
The Aztlan/La Raza movement here in So. Cal. has been fairly vociferous in what their aims and goals are. They are basically the Mexican CAIR. Fuck them all.
The Aztecs liked the conquered tribes in that part of the world far more than the Spaniards. They liked them broiled, baked, or even boiled. The Aztcs were not discriminatory. They served them all equally.
Thanks for your helpful comments, Dust Bunny Queen!
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