Thursday, June 23, 2016

"Obama Immigration Plan Blocked by 4-4 Tie at Supreme Court"

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A tie vote by the Supreme Court is blocking President Barack Obama's immigration plan that sought to shield millions living in the U.S. illegally from deportation.
The justices' one-sentence opinion on Thursday effectively kills the plan for the rest of Obama's presidency. The outcome underscores that the direction of U.S. immigration policy will be determined in large part by this fall's presidential election, a campaign in which immigration already has played an outsized role.
A tie vote sets no national precedent but leaves in place the ruling by the lower court. In this case, the federal appeals court in New Orleans said the Obama administration lacked the authority to shield up to 4 million immigrants from deportation and make them eligible for work permits without approval from Congress.
Finally, the people succeed blocking the emperor.

59 comments:

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Trump and his campaign should be ALL over this.

The next President will be responsible for 1 if not 2 or 3 new Supreme Court Justices. Those clowns on the court affect us in more ways than a President does. They make decisions, change laws, MAKE laws, find penumbras that affect us for generations.

The make up of the Supreme Court is crucial to the preservation of our freedoms, preservation of the Constitution. Do we want HILLARY to make these choices. God forbid!

No matter how much you may hate, dislike or otherwise think that Trump is not your guy....think about a Hillary Supreme Court stomping all over the American people and destroying our rights for GENERATIONS.

ricpic said...

But you can't force the Executive Branch to execute arrests and deportations of illegals. And Obama has already, as part of his comment on this decision, assured illegals that they have nothing to fear from his minions.

ndspinelli said...

Here's the rub. Those 4 justices who voted to support their King are myopic. They would have set a HORRIBLE precedent. This is more evidence the people w/ the DC mindset have no clue they may have a President Trump this time next year. Would they want him w/ this unbridled authority? I don't want ANY President w/ the ability to ignore the law. This is a country of laws, not men[and women of course]. At least it was.

AJ Lynch said...

It does not matter much if our Chief Law Enforcement Officer, the president, still refuses to enforce the laws.

AprilApple said...

The big lie that Obama deports people.

big lie supported and pushed by DNC hack press.

Methadras said...

Finally, the people succeed blocking the emperor.

Wrong. Urkel will simply ignore SCOTUS and will implement this full speed ahead.

edutcher said...

"Finally, the people succeed blocking the emperor."

Hardly. The tyranny of Mr Marshall's ego was, for once, put to the defense of the people.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Trump and his campaign should be ALL over this.

The next President will be responsible for 1 if not 2 or 3 new Supreme Court Justices.


Over the years, this argument has only registered with the Lefties because they've realized they can't win a lot of issues with the people - homosexuality, same sex marriage, etc., so they have to go through the courts.

Maybe people will get it this time, but don't hold your breath.

ndspinelli said...

Here's the rub. Those 4 justices who voted to support their King are myopic

2 were appointed by black Narcissus, 2 by Willie. Another 2, Roberts and Kennedy, by the Bushes.

They've ignored the Constitution for the Lefty agenda.

Be interesting if it came back to bite them, but this is what happens when you go through the appellate courts rather than the legislative process (considering the Congress is bought and paid for, that route isn't too cool right now, either).

Lem said...

I'm a little fuzzy on whether this is the best part...

They can't blame Scalia... Can they?

Chip Ahoy said...

This forced me to look up enjoin.

edutcher said...

Lem said...

I'm a little fuzzy on whether this is the best part...

They can't blame Scalia... Can they?


Well, yes and no.

The Conservatives can blame him because it would have been a straight 5-4. But a win is a win, as they say, and a tie is sometimes better than kissing your sister.

edutcher said...

OT, but maybe not:

Lewandowski hired as commentator by CNN.

Maybe that "firing" was something else.

Lem said...

Urkel will simply ignore SCOTUS and will implement this full speed ahead.

I want to see that. Pass the popcorn.

Calypso Facto said...

The blood from more than 5,000 murders a year in the US by illegal aliens is on Obama's hands. But sure, let's sit-in for more ineffective laws against the statistically insignificant use of assault weapons.

O/T: can somebody catch me up quick? Where's BagOH20 been? Did he get fed up with the monkeys throwing poo?

Sixty Grit said...

Assault weapons? Which ones are those?

Calypso Facto said...

Just using the sit-inners own language, Sixty, but I agree with you're point that it's a slippery, and usually cosmetic, definition.

edutcher said...

Sixty Grit said...

Assault weapons? Which ones are those?

Hammers, nail files...

Rhythm and Balls said...

Finally, the people succeed blocking the emperor.

You gonna block the voters in November, too?

Rhythm and Balls said...

But a win is a win...

There was no "win." A court that lacks the number of justices necessary to decide legal interpretations is one that's incapable of winning anything. Hopefully they'll be over-ruled once this can be re-adjudicated under a president and new congress that's less lazy and at war with the people than the current one.

And I don't even really care about the case. But this childishly obstructionist, gloating attitude of going to war with the people and the people's business is one I'll be happy to see lose.

Rhythm and Balls said...

...more than 5,000 murders a year in the US by illegal aliens...

Cite and source that, please.

Cite and source also how many deportations have occurred under Obama versus those under his predecessors.

edutcher said...

Close enough?

and do the catch and releasr count?


Rhythm and Balls said...

But a win is a win...

There was no "win." A court that lacks the number of justices necessary to decide legal interpretations is one that's incapable of winning anything.


Only in Ritmo world.

Rhythm and Balls said...

And a temporary delay of the inevitable is only a "win" in the bubble world of Baghdad ed and his fellow travelers.

I swear, you weirdos actually believe that endless obstruction and delay is like a form of destiny.

It's not. Eventually people get fed up and make it clear that they've enough with you, and what they intend to do with you.

edutcher said...

It cuts both ways.

The Lefties are forever telling people history is on their side.

It isn't.

Rhythm and Balls said...

And a temporary delay of the inevitable is only a "win" in the bubble world of Baghdad ed and his fellow travelers.

I swear, you weirdos actually believe that endless obstruction and delay is like a form of destiny.


No, that's your crowd.

Methadras said...

Lem said...

I'm a little fuzzy on whether this is the best part...

They can't blame Scalia... Can they?


Why not, they blame everyone and everything but themselves.

Methadras said...

Ritmo,

Obstruction and delay in fighting leftists is the only appropriate action.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Whatever you say, Baghdad Ed!

The (Democrats) do not frighten anyone. We are catching them like fish in a river. I mean here that over the past two days, we managed to shoot down 196 bills before they were voted on.

Name that quote!

I'm going to throw more of these out there the closer we get to the election and the more convinced Baghdad Ed becomes of Total Republican Domination!

It's more fun than pretending that Baghdad Ed has anything meaningful to say in his typical, "I'm rubber, you're glue" dialogue.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Obstruction and delay in fighting leftists is the only appropriate action.

I suppose they're noble in being marginally legal measures, but losing elections is an important measure to take as well! Don't forget that action!

Don't do this to me, guys. Remember, I am not a fan of Clinton or the party as it stands that she wants to bring back into Congress in November.

rcocean said...

"The Conservatives can blame him because it would have been a straight 5-4. But a win is a win, as they say, and a tie is sometimes better than kissing your sister."

I don't know what this means. But its nothing more than a temporary injunction that will be overturned the second Hillary puts another Kagan or "Wise Latina" on the SCOTUS.

edutcher said...

Rhythm and Balls said...

Whatever you say, Baghdad Ed!

Ritmo riffs on April.

Considering she's the one who refuses to acknowledge anything that breaks her worldview, I'd say it's a match made in the Twilight Zone.

edutcher said...

rcocean said...

The Conservatives can blame him because it would have been a straight 5-4. But a win is a win, as they say, and a tie is sometimes better than kissing your sister.

I don't know what this means. But its nothing more than a temporary injunction that will be overturned the second Hillary puts another Kagan or "Wise Latina" on the SCOTUS.


4-4 or 5-4 can be overturned each as easily as the other.

If you don't like that idea, you might want to vote for Trump.

Rhythm and Balls said...

Ritmo riffs on April.

It's not a riff. It's your new name.

We will assign an avatar to you in fatigues and a beret as Trump crashes to a 30% electoral night trouncing and you stand up and say, "We are roasting them in their voting booths in Wisconsin! The infidels will never penetrate Ohio! In Florida they are committing suicides and retreating!"

chickelit said...

It's not a riff. It's your new name.

We'll see if it gains currency beyond you and April.

bagoh20 said...

"Did he get fed up with the monkeys throwing poo?"

He died from friendly fire during heroic stands against the real enemy. I hear he's buried at Arlington ... under the porta potties.

AprilApple said...

Baghdad ed - it fits. It's perfect.

Trump! He is winning when he loses. When Trump craps himself right at the exact same moment when negative info comes out on Hillary - it's just a happy coincidence!

AprilApple said...

Rode my bike around town this evening. Passed by the Boulder Republican headquarters. Closed. Windows all papered up. Sure it has nothing to do with Trump - the GOP wrecking Ball for the Clinton Crime Family.

AprilApple said...

Baghdad Ed originated with Spinelli.

AprilApple said...

I have this amazing photo of all these bright eyed young people gathered around Cory Gardener at the GOP Boulder headquarters - right after he beat Marc Udall. Good times. Gone times.

Rhythm and Balls said...

We'll see if it gains currency beyond you and April.

There are Republicans who will vote for Hillary (a former Goldwater Girl).

There are Republicans who will not vote for Trump.

There's even Bag o'H290910. And who knows what he'll do.

And then there's you and the Trumpers. A loud bunch, a noisy bunch. And a bunch that includes bunches of innumerate kids like Chickelit who substitute enthusiasm for math.

Rhythm and Balls said...

We'll see if it gains currency beyond you and April.

We'll see if you ever catch up to how unknowledgeable and blathering Baghdad Ed is.

This Trump stuff is only his Waterloo. I've always known it about him.

But this time it catches notice because his party is (probably hopelessly) split, and he goes on and on and on and on and on and on about how awesome Trump is and how only saboteurs and partisan traitors could ever disagree.

He confuses his own enthusiasm for reality and righteousness.

He is righteously and unrealistically wrong.

edutcher said...

April is still waiting for those 1300 poached delegates to come rescue the One True Ted, y'know, the Real Conservative. The one who supported Gang of 8 and TPP.

And, as we all know, Trump is going easy on Cacklepants so he can throw it to her.

Case in point: new Trump website Lyin' Crooked Hillary, going after her 10 most egregious lies. First up, the lies she told the families of the men killed in Benghazi, starring Patricia Smith, mother of Sean Smith.

AprilApple said...

Rode my bike around town this evening. Passed by the Boulder Republican headquarters. Closed. Windows all papered up. Sure it has nothing to do with Trump - the GOP wrecking Ball for the Clinton Crime Family.

Considering they're in bed with Cacklepants, you might want to go over to Uni-Party HQ.

So, yeah, whatever she says is always in sync with reality.

Rhythm and Balls said...

He is righteously and unrealistically wrong.

Ritmo is always right. Except when he's wrong.

edutcher said...

Rhythm and Balls said...

There are Republicans who will vote for Hillary (a former Goldwater Girl).

There are Republicans who will not vote for Trump.


And there are Democrats who will vote for Trump (millions of them if the primaries are any indication).

And Democrats who will not vote for Hillary (Bernies ring a bell?).

Ritmo states the obvious and thinks it shows how bright he is.

edutcher said...

For those interested in something more substantive than thinking of silly names to call me, Brexit appears to be winning.

And Dow Futures are plummeting.

AprilApple said...

Trump burns bridges and acts like an asshole. Baghdad ed says - winning!

Trump was a nasty asshole to Hugh Hewitt. Hugh has been nothing but gracious and fair to Trump. Hugh had Trump on his show again today. I was reading the transcript (I'll try and find it) (It's from today or yesterday) If you read between the lines - Trump is so not really into this. It's so obvious he only cares about his ego.

AprilApple said...

Trump has no money. He's an easy target for mocking.
He has burned every bridge imaginable = winning!



Rhythm and Balls said...

It seems to me that stupid people love asserting that the only reason that anyone smarter, more reasonable, more knowledgeable than they are would say anything, is to "prove" or show off how smart they are.

Maybe ed, you're just stupid, or wrong, and I like pointing that out.

When have you ever been right on anything? Especially when you go against what seems obvious to anyone else? To anyone intelligent?

You know, intelligence is not a conspiracy to make you look bad. Sometimes you just look bad.

As for the matter at hand, Trump will lose more voters than Hillary will, giving another edge to Hillary - at least from the looks of things. His unfavorables are way worse than even hers. Republicans worry about this. They worry about a lot of things. They believe they have a greater reason to worry in this election. And they worry about what everyone else worries about - the fact that he talks out of his ass and will say anything. At this point, Hillary, with all her experience, is coming off as less unstable. That seems like it will matter a lot.

And then there's this thing where Hillary isn't telling around 15% of Americans that they can fuck off, which Trump likes doing so that it will excite about 10% of the country.

So why don't you tell us why you're so right, if that's what you really believe. And do it using facts, instead of just blathering assertions and Trumpist insults.

I can see why you love him. He loves "the uneducated". You probably are infatuated with someone who can get away with saying anything he makes up, who gets his information "from the internet." He's like your epistemological hero, or something.

But that doesn't make his confidence warranted. And it doesn't make you right in identifying with it.

But you need to feel good about what you've got going in life, and that's important.

So vote Trump! And call everyone who doesn't (or who even doubts his odds of victory) a horrible, evil, no-good traitor!

You tell 'em, Ed.

And then roast the infidels in the pits of hell around the Baghdad airport.

Or something.

Rhythm and Balls said...

And BTW, yes I do know who Bernie Sanders is, thank you very much.

Tell me something I don't know.

AprilApple said...

Ed ache - No one is in bed with cacklepants - except for Trump.

Rhythm and Balls said...

It's the Charlie Sheen candidacy.

WInning!

Tiger blood and Adonis DNA will make up for his campaign finance deficit.

In the meantime, Hillary goes into the summer with a crazy money advantage. And who knows how much left Bernie has and how much of it he'll send her way.

But the Democrats are retreating! They are committing mass suicide! Anyone who told you that they are on the march is guilty of vicious, slandering lies! And a stooge of Bush/Blair!

Now if you can excuse us, Baghdad Ed will take your questions.

AprilApple said...
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AprilApple said...

I see a lot of Bernie holdouts around town. I saw 3 Bernie T-shirts today. Still a lot of bumper stickers around. Very little showy support for Hillary. I think Hillary will get more support than is being displayed, but as with Trump - there's an embarrassment factor.

AprilApple said...

At this point, I'm with Bernie. I'm going full socialist because Hillary and Trump are that bad.

AprilApple said...

Trump-Sheen twenty-sixteen. I've been saying it all year.

AprilApple said...

One of the Bernie T-shirts said: "Not for sale."

I like that.

AprilApple said...

One other thing- The guilt trip about losing the supreme court.

That's on Trump.

edutcher said...

AprilApple said...

Trump burns bridges and acts like an asshole. Baghdad ed says - winning!

April says she wanted someone who would go after Cacklepants and got him. Now she complains he's burning bridges. Funny, how people will twist things when they've been proven wrong.

Ed ache - No one is in bed with cacklepants - except for Trump.

Baghdad April. No, it's not funny, but it fits better.

Rhythm and Balls said...

When have you ever been right on anything?

I said Trump would get the nod.

Tell me something I don't know.

That would appear to encompass the limits of human knowledge.

AprilApple said...

Fanboy ed - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* nobody cares.

@ Balls - It's more fun than pretending that Baghdad Ed has anything meaningful to say in his typical, "I'm rubber, you're glue" dialogue.


*1*

MamaM said...

Fanboy ed - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* nobody cares.

Not true, AprilApple. There's some days when I feel more inclined to read Ed's responses than I do yours. I don't go for the all or nothing approach. But I do appreciate the value of negative intimacy.

Rhythm and Balls said...

There's some days when I feel more inclined to read Ed's responses than I do yours.

When pressed, Ed declares as his most accurate prediction - and ostensibly best reason for reading his comments, that angry-funny man Trump would get the nod.

For the record, I myself had no doubts that Republicans would go full Reality TV and elevate the brashest, richest narcissist as their standard bearer. What in their recent history suggested that they would do anything otherwise? Their renown display of compassion for the "insufficiently bootstrapped" poor? Their prioritization of quality of life over material wealth? The invisible grain of salt with which they treat obnoxiously, dangerously over-the-top American nationalism?

Trump was like a godsend, directly personifying the latter two traits while actually finding convenient (if sometimes partially legitimate) scapegoats for America's declining wealth and the abysmal conditions faced by its working class. He was every embarrassing Republican whisper campaign brought to louder than life in the personification of a political Frankenstein.

So please forgive me if I find Edward's insights - never mind his riffraff syntax and endlessly meandering mumbo jumbo - a little less top notch than you do.

MamaM said...

After years of reading your comments, Rhythm and Balls, going back to the endlessly rambling and meandering mumbo-jumbo from the Montana Urban Legend era, I'm more inclined to laugh at your peculiar but often funny humor along with the audacity revealed over time, than forgive you for finding Edward's insights to be a little less than top notch.

Carry on. But please don't assume your opinion on the value of another's comments matches that of everyone else who is reading.

Rhythm and Balls said...

What I would love is if you could relate to me all the insightful things you've learned from reading Edward (or whatever his name is). I would give my left testicle to find the humor/value/insight in those comments that I've been cautioned by the MGT (for whom I have more respect) to not overshadow with my admittedly sometimes strident upbraiding of Sir Edward. It's a horrible bind that I have attempted more vigorously to resolve more than you can know. Though the end result often feels like what I imagine it would be like to practice Christianity on Klingons.

In any event, glad you find my humor funny if peculiar, along with everything else.