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Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigns over Prop 8 controversy.
Mozilla is a web browser, like Internet Explorer and Google's Chrome. Between you and me, I hate Chrome, but that's not what this post is about.
From an Andrew Sullivan Post...
It turns out that Eich (Mozilla's CEO) might have saved his job had he recanted, like all heretics must. But given the choice of recanting, he failed. Hence the lighting of the fires:
Throughout the interviews, it was not hard to get the sense that Eich (Mozilla's CEO) really wanted to stick strongly by his views about gay marriage, which run counter to much of the tech industry and, increasingly, the general population in the U.S. For example, he repeatedly declined to answer when asked if he would donate to a similar initiative today.
He did not understand that in order to be a CEO of a company, you have to renounce your heresy! There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged! Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell...
This is a repugnantly illiberal sentiment. It is also unbelievably stupid for the gay rights movement. You want to squander the real gains we have made by argument and engagement by becoming just as intolerant of others’ views as the Christianists? You’ve just found a great way to do this. It’s a bad, self-inflicted blow. And all of us will come to regret it.
The in-tray is inundated with your dissents, which we will air in full tomorrow, since it will some time to find the strongest counterpoints.
73 comments:
He should comment @ Annie's PC Palace.
Opponents of gay marriage are being driven into the closet, or "ghettoized".
Now that gays are out, I suppose there is a lot of real state in there.
If intolerance is a firing offense, then there are more heads that need to roll at Mozilla.
I have been going back and forth between Chrome and Firefox for about a year now. Both have their pros and cons, and I'm a long term Firefox user. This is of course Mozilla's right to be intolerant of diverse views, but it's also my right to stop using their product over it, and I think this is enough to make my final decision for Chrome. I'm sure Google is just as totalitarian, but they haven't shown it so blatantly... yet.
Just installed Opera.
NY Times headline: Mozilla’s Chief Felled by View on Gay Unions
Felled = cut down the sic tree for the sake of the forest.
Kudos to Sullivan on this one.
Wow - good on Sully. Wait. He had me until he uttered "Christianists". Then Sullivan slipped back into his own intolerance.
I am in agreement with Sullivan, an unexpected circumstance.
Opera works pretty well, I must say.
Who knew that forcing gay marriage onto us would result in progressive 'liberal' fascism?
I mean, aside from us.
Althouse in her usual idiocy seems to think that there is some stopping point once you coerce people to abide by unpopular beliefs.
She also retains the quaint notion that the Constitution is now anything other than fishwrap. No, worse, it has been rolled up like a newspaper and used to beat us on the nose like dogs to be shamed.
For me and my family, I advise preference falsification, maybe for a generation.
Because this will end very ugly.
I agree with Sullivan.
tits.
I, for one, welcome our new gay overlords.
Bullshit, Titus.
Where does this kind of harassment and intimidation from the fascist left stop? Or does it never stop?
Can a CEO be hounded out of his job (or never hired in the first place) because he or she is Catholic? Or Baptist? Or donated to the RNC?
We have that to look forward to now, right?
Fight back.
There is no point in fighting back.
Sit back and wait for the inevitable self-destruction gays will bring upon themselves.
The very nature of homosexuality is S&M.
Gays don't hate straights because straights are oppressing them. They hate straights out of jealousy because straights are not necessarily doomed to the self-destructive ethos of S&M that is homosexuality.
Read the Bible. Humanity has suffered through this cycle of depravity many times.
Or to put it another way, homosexuals are imagining that heteros are inflicting something on them that is innate to homosexuality.
Don't get caught in the trap.
I thought they just admired our fashions.
I don't particularly care to hear from Sullivan on this or any othet issue. He has allied himself completely with the Left and supports the Obama regime and all things Democratic So to Hell with him, too.
I knew the American experiment was doomed when Pajamaboy was introduced to the nation.
What Birches said ...me too, except I installed Opera some 10 years ago.
Opera accounts for about 90+% of my browsing. The Opera "Speed Dial" desktop with as many one-click icons as you want for websites, blogs, etc is just not done anywhere else as well.
I use IE for those sites that demand it. I tried Mozilla when I replaced my desk computer...no thanks, IE on Meth or something.
Anyway, any outfit that dumps someone because of their ordinary beliefs...well, it delights me to delete the unused Mozzila install today.
Allen ... Pajamaboy ranks as one the greatest WTF?! moments in recent memory.
Normally I'd not mention or cite TOP anywhere, however, today is an exception. No need to link, its already in the side bar page right.
TOP has apparently forgotten last July vis a vis shutting people down, etc (didn't happen, whatchu meen, yada yada)....at least it seems that way with the Mozilla/Sullivan post.
My bet...its a trap to detect anyone who still is less than Pajamaboy.
"My bet...its a trap to detect anyone who still is less than Pajamaboy."
Yes; she has chosen the side of the oppressors.
Shout:
"Or to put it another way, homosexuals are imagining that heteros are inflicting something on them that is innate to homosexuality.
Don't get caught in the trap."
Do you mean homosexuals are telling hets 'we will not be defined by you'?
What's the history between Althouse and Sully? Nutshell version.
Lem:
"Opponents of gay marriage are being driven into the closet, or "ghettoized"."
Well played, good sir.
Felled.
I only recall her highlighting Sullivan's ant-Palin lunacy.
But she herself has deleted speech against gays on her blog, and I see her current stance about 'free speech' just so much bullshit.
If you can coerce the US to accept gay marriage, then you can forbid speech against it.
In for an inch, in for a mile.
So to speak.
I noticed this morning that comments made yesterday by at least one commenter had vanished.
Do you mean homosexuals are telling hets 'we will not be defined by you'?
No, I meant exactly what I said.
Gay men didn't kill themselves by the tens of thousands because heteros defined them.
They killed themselves with their own sexual behavior.
Sensible heteros "noticed" this. Noticing reality isn't defining something.
Christian sexual morality is the correct method for organizing human societies.
No, Christian sexual morality doesn't pass muster on the "fairness" and "equality" battle lines.
Fairness and equality are bullshit.
Christian sexual morality was not born out of lamebrain philosophical and rational argumentation. It was born out of the reality of thousands of years of human experience. And humans are irrational beings, not machines.
We're headed for a lot of trouble. Probably world war. Homosexuals always push us in that direction.
The equality and fairness arguments of feminism and homosexual activism are unbearably stupid.
The temptation of Eve and the destruction of Sodom get replayed from time to time. The outcome will be no different this time around. Evil will seem to be triumphant and beyond challenge, and then the conflagration.
I deleted my comments there at the end of the day yesterday because I regretted being drawn back into an argument with her.
She is one of the oppressors and wants to pretend her oppression only goes so far, but in for an inch, as I said.
Plus she again accused me of mental illness (depression), which is the usual response of Stalinists to disagreement.
Screw that.
I think some of the homosexual rights crowd are getting the message that this sort of thing can lose them all the good will they have lied so hard to get.
There's a story that Chick-Fil-A has passed KFC in sales - even though they have fewer outlets.
(wonder if last year's hoo-ha had anything to do with it?)
Birches said...
Just installed Opera.
A lot of that going on, too.
Pogo:
"But she herself has deleted speech against gays on her blog, and I see her current stance about 'free speech' just so much bullshit."
She's spinning her wheels. For her to call YOU of all people a depressed old man...Firstly, you're in your fifties, I think? Secondly, any lawyer should be averse to lowering herself to ad hominem attack, thirdly, you're one of the most insightful commenters at her place and Lem's, and finally, it's interesting how selective she is in her deletions. A few years ago when a well-known gay male commenter made overt sexually-harassing comments to a well-known heterosexual female commenter, she let them stand.
53!
She's at least 60.
Plus, why is mocking 'old' okay but gays are sacred?
More tolerance bullshit.
63, I believe.
The comments by Mary (now posting as Mary E. Glynn) are deleted on sight by Althouse. A number of her comments were deleted yesterday from the thread in question. She has a tendency to shred Althouse's arguments.
I googled her name and found this:
"count me - Althouse - Blogger
althouse.blogspot.com/.../if-this-is-gay-rights-movement-to...
Ann Althouse
13 hours ago - Mary E. Glynn said... People make the mistake of thinking Andrew Sullivan is the spokesmakn for gay rights. It's gone far beyond him now, into ..."
When I followed the link she'd already been deleted.
Pogo, I was asking if you are in your fifties.
"53" is me.
Mary's comments were deleted overnight. Too bad - they were interesting.
I can't link to it now, someone please check Slate for the article exhorting the LBGT crowd to go after everyone listed as a Prop 8 donor.
Pogo:
"I deleted my comments there at the end of the day yesterday because I regretted being drawn back into an argument with her."
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!
Thanks, Pogo.
Michael, Mary's comments were deleted sometime yesterday afternoon. Will check for article.
Ha! And yesterday was my frabjous day, callou, callay!
:)
Amazing link, Ed, thanks :)
Here you go, Michael:
ugly
Ugly indeed deborah.
Purge the Bigots
Purge the Kulaks
Purge the Jews
etc., etc.
The mask is off and what's behind it ain't pretty. As soon as I can figure out how to transfer "favorites" in my Firefox browser to Opera or some other browser, I'll be done with Mozilla for good.
Rush is going on a pretty good rant about this right now.
Mary should adopt the simple tactics of masking her IP address or posting from a different address, and changing her name to a pseudonym.
Become a sock puppet like everybody else.
Wouldn't work unless she changed her syntax as well, and that would be a travesty.
Third Coast, they probably import automatically at the touch of the button.
Deborah, just installed Maxthon Cloud and transferred favorites.
Firefox is gone.
Firefox went bad for me some years ago and I've been on Chrome since.
PS No idea Eich invented Javascript. I wonder how often the Gaystapo likes to invoke the name of Alan Turing?
I had to switch to something else when my PC would not support an IE upgrade to 8.
someone please check Slate for the article exhorting the LBGT crowd to go after everyone listed as a Prop 8 donor.
That piece in Slate was meant to be satire. If nothing else, the pitchfork imagery should be the clue:
"If we’re serious about taking down corporate officers who supported Proposition 8, and boycotting employers who promote them, we'd better get cracking on the rest of the list. Otherwise, perhaps we should put down the pitchforks."
Sad part is, though, that probably much of the audience for that piece in Slate sees nothing wrong with pitchforks in this case.
The Slate article may have been satire, but for a refresher on what the Gaystapo actually did during the aftermath of Prop 8, go read Taranto's Best of the Web today. Justice Thomas absolutely nailed it in regards to what happened then and what is happening now.
Here's the thing. During the whole gay marriage dust up at TOP, the word "bigot" was thrown around a lot. It was the favored term of the hostess to describe anyone who opposed gay marriage, regardless of their reasons. You can't have it both ways. You can't describe your opponents in an argument as bigots and then expect your side to respect them once the argument has been won. If they are bigots, then their opinions are not just bad, but intolerable. Opinions that no decent society would allow to stand. And so we have such things as people losing their jobs because of the opinions they hold. And those who so cavalierly called them bigots are just as responsible for this state of affairs as those who call for their firing.
Point is, this is what the Gay Raiders have been doing for decades, but they've kept it local and personalized it (thank you, Uncle Saul).
Now it's writ large and on the national level where everybody sees it, witness Duck Dynasty and Chick-Fil-A.
And, as I've said, this is where they will be laid by the heels.
I've been driving in a snow storm all afternoon and haven't been able to keep up with this topic. Now that I read it - excellent!
A couple of things.
Any idea how I can migrate my Foxfire bookmarks to Opera?
The Slate article can be read (I think) as being either (1) on the very edge of satire, or (2) as a snarkily written call to action. unfortunately, my belief is that most will take it as the latter. Look for a continuing pogrom.
Yeah, satire is tricky stuff.
I'm pretty sure the author, William Saletan, meant it as that, though, especially since he wrote this only a month ago in an article about the photographer in New Mexico who declined to participate in a same-sex wedding:
"We’re stereotyping and vilifying opponents of gay marriage the way we’ve seen gay people stereotyped and vilified. This is a deeply personal moral issue. To get it right, we need more than justice. We need humanity."
and
"Maybe we need to talk to people who accept homosexuality as an orientation but believe marriage should be reserved for couples capable of procreation, at least in theory. Or maybe we just need to take the self-description of a Christian photographer as seriously as we would take the self-description of a gay friend."
During the whole gay marriage dust up at TOP, the word "bigot" was thrown around a lot. It was the favored term of the hostess to describe anyone who opposed gay marriage, regardless of their reasons.
The hostess also turns a blind eye to the throwing around of the term racist at any and everyone, so long as the thrower is one of her preferred commenters.
But call her out on her hypocrisy and the thin skin appears.
Mary E. Glynn is her real name.
As I recall, she was an AA student at some point. I rather enjoy her comments.
She has her own blog: Subsumed...Resumed. Kinda strange; she's pretty much all over the place in her views.
Years ago, Mary allowed comments on her blog.
This is only the beginning of the attacks by the gay fascists on traditional values. The bakers, photographers and CEO's are only the first causalities. This fight is coming to a church, temple or synagogue near you.
Fuck it. That's old news.
Shoutin' T said...
We're headed for a lot of trouble. Probably world war. Homosexuals always push us in that direction.
The ghosts of Ernst Röhm and the Sturmabteilung ...
PS: Godwin Alert :-)))
Don't forget the First Gay President.
He purged more officers than Stalin for the agenda.
Michael, Althouse once said she has a restraining order against Mary posting on her blog. And she is a former student.
I think once you install a new browser it asks you if you want to import bookmarks, and it does them all at once. That's how it was when I switched to Chrome.
You can't have it both ways. You can't describe your opponents in an argument as bigots and then expect your side to respect them once the argument has been won. If they are bigots, then their opinions are not just bad, but intolerable. Opinions that no decent society would allow to stand. And so we have such things as people losing their jobs because of the opinions they hold. And those who so cavalierly called them bigots are just as responsible for this state of affairs as those who call for their firing.
I've been thinking about Kennedy's opinion in Windsor and how he used "animus" for the reason that DOMA was passed. He seems like a fairly libertarian guy. I hope that he can see now that accusing the other side of "animus" probably had some unintended, negative consequences.
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