“In our society any man who does not weep at his mother's funeral runs the risk of being sentenced to death.” — Albert Camus
Liberal: Made me feel good to shoot a gun but made me feel bad about feeling good. Normal: Did you hit the target?Liberal: Who cares, it's all about how I feel.
Imagine needing help from one of those people in a life and death situation. All of them working together is equal to approximately one handful of wet spaghetti. No wonder they need government for everything. Like tiny baby birds with voting rights.
Those women need to focus - how about some muzzle discipline, bitches?
Imagine needing help from one of those people in a life and death situation.They would be definite liabilities in a life and death situation. When you have liabilities you try to reduce or eliminate them.
I'd never start a new shooter, particularly a woman that's anti-gun anyway, with a pistol that recoils as much as a 9mm like the guy in the video did. A friend teaches CPL classes and has seen lots of women that can't tolerate relatively heavy recoil but are perfectly comfortable shooting pistols in .22 LR or .22 Mag.
The brunette has potential. She also has a higher testosterone level than the dude.
Cut him some slack - he was ovulating at the time.
Those women were so turned on doing that maybe they'll try sex with a man next.
That is funny.
The women got excited. Even the guy seemed almost masculine.
What Rabel said. I've taught people with the brunette's attitude without trouble. The rest of that crew...nah, uh, send them home with a note to their mommies. Like Bagoh20 said..."tiny baby birds with voting rights."
Two of them will own handguns within the year. The guy isn't one of them.I would not have started then off with a large frame 9mm gun. Probably a smaller frame, 4" barrel length in .22 or .380 size, something that would better fit the size of their hands.While blasting away with a 12 ga pump action shotgun is a hoot, it was well beyond what first-time shooters should have been allowed to do. Can plinking with a .22 rifle would have been better.
I took my friend shooting for the first time and I rented a .22 instead of having us use my gun at first. Then I had her shoot a magazine from my 9mm, but only after starting with the .22.Which was a piece of crap, but it was a rental, so...There are smaller shot guns. A 12 gauge is painful.
There are smaller shot guns. A 12 gauge is painfulTrue. A 20 gauge is probably a better choice for a beginner.However, the key to keeping yourself from being hurt by the recoil is to "firmly" have the stock of the gun pressed tightly up against your shoulder. You will recoil but it won't be a bruising recoil of the shotgun "into" your body, but rather a push back of your entire upper torso. Also lean into the stock of the gun. Feet apart and body somewhat forward.There is nothing quite so intimidating as the sound of a 12 gauge shell being jacked into the chamber of your shotgun. Ka---Chunk!
I will not watch the vidy yoFor it is a vidy ustedes. Liberals with gun snot for me.Plus I'm bummed out and mad at the same time. The guy I told you about who died, I learned today the cause was suicide. There was nothing wrong with him, nothing wrong with his health, save for life wasn't good enough, not rewarding enough. His business I mentioned failed. And looking through his pinterest site (vast) I see he his sights were set unreasonably high. He wasn't well enough endowed, in his face, in his wallet, with his penis, he mentioned that to someone, and that's the part that that angers me. He gave no clue whatsoever of depression, and even so, envy and dissatisfaction or defeat are not a good enough reasons. So I'll mention the weather instead. Hot as h-e-double swimming pool rescue poles. Then suddenly dark and gray. The wind kicked up with the promise of rain. Important because I want rain in my sourdough collection bowl. But a promise unfulfilled. The whole area became infused with light while still under the cloud. The edge of the cloud was pulled down as I described yesterday, clearly dropping rain in the distance. But the rain doesn't make it to the ground. You can actually see it pour out and dissipate to nothing at ground level, and its approach can be observed. Just like yesterday. With clear open blue sky and with piled up cumulus cloud banks in the far distance obscuring the mountain range, amassing for another assault. So now it's bright as can be but the mountains are still not visible.The good thing is, the wind that is rather strong shoves organisms directly into the slurry. So there's at least that. The weird thing is, these sourdough collections take longer to cultivate than no collecting at all. Cultivating organisms in straight slurry already on the flour goes faster than slurry aged days outside loaded with local organisms that overtake the organisms in the flour used to make the slurry. It's like they must have their war first, prevail, then get on with replicating.To overcome my sadness and madness I'm going to make beef Bourguignon and I have no idea how to even pronounce that word.Wait a second...Got it. Borg-in(g) -nyonBut I forgot mushrooms. So I went back today and bought some.Creminis, shitakis, porcinisAnd more of those little bitty onions that are so cute but hard to peel.Here's how to peel them. Blanch them for a minute then squeeze them out of their papery shell. This concludes my attitude adjustment.
Chip Ahoy said...Bourguignon and I have no idea how to even pronounce that word.Boor gin (hard G as be-gin) yon, emphasis on the first syllable.If you really want to feel hoity-toity, say boeuf (somewhere between buff and boof) instead of beef.
Rabel said... The brunette has potential. She also has a higher testosterone level than the dude.Lol, I thought the same thing. Except my thought was, "Bro, she has bigger balls than you do. In fact, I suspect, you have no balls." Then I lol'ed more.
Aw, c'mon, lighten up. They're trying new experiences.
I guess the Conservative equivalent would be trying to eat tofu unicorns from a vegan restaurant and paying with a welfare check, or maybe sending our friends to a work camp where they would sew mom jeans for our leader.
Lol. That was funny and the comments are funny.Next up will be Conservatives Doing Crosswords.
I always do them in pen. And cursive. So that you can't read them.
I thought they had ducks and pipes moving across the ranges.Stuffed animals.
I am puzzled by the idea that one, if already an adult, should start with small calibers like a .22 or 20 gauge, etc. I've never done that for the adult beginners I've started...they start with my idea of a small round, aka 9 mm parabellum or a light skeet or trap load in 12 gauge. Yeah, I started with .22 long rifle, but then I started when I was 7 years old with a Winchester Model 52 I wish I'd never ever sold (dumb is as dumb does). How to grasp and hold the firearm is half the battle, pistol or long gun. It should never be a "death grip", but a firm grip where you can control your trigger finger independently and easily, pistol, shotgun, or rifle. Heck my 110 lb 5'4" very fit daughter carries a 9mm personally, but every time we go shooting (bi-weekly) she insists on shooting my Model 1911 .45 caliber Kimber using the Hornaday 185 grain JHP rounds I carry and use for practice as well...shoot what you use, etc. :) Her choice of a "carry round" is a hot Corbon +P 9mm all copper JHP, which will snap your wrist out of a short barrel like her S&W Shield. I thought she was full of crap carrying a round she seldom shot, so I bought her 4 boxes of the same thing wholesale ($41 retail, $26 wholesale) and had her shoot them (prove to me you can do it!)....and I'll be danged, she's accurate with the hot rounds too....better than with the range reload crap in fact. Lesson learned, never under estimate a kid who once thought Taekwondo was a fun game at age 8 I guess. Anyway, for adults, proper handling and holding of a firearm is essential, then a high power caliber or gauge is no problem....now you get in to rifles over 7.62 NATO (.308)...that's another story. It even takes me a few rounds to re-adapt to 7.62 NATO round if fired from an M-14 clone (M1A)using the requisite Army and USMC "spotweld" hold of thumb knuckle against cheekbone. Ouch.Saying all this crap...I realize everyone has their own methods and procedures. I've used mine for a long time so I am a bias old fart.
Chip I am sorry about your friend. Sometimes you just don't know why things happen. I am sorry it happened. I am making fresh tuna salad with basil on a brandywine tomato slice. It is simple but exceptional.
Chip Ahoy....I have to apologize for not reading your post completely and understanding how the death of a friend is so compelling. Death is something I understand, especially if it is someone close. Please forgive me, for I am an asshole at times...and tonight is one of those times.Too many cognacs make me a shit-head. Your posts always make me happy and bring me some joy. Thank you.
The only time I ever fired a gun was in the service. I was in the Air Force so we only had to do it once a year. The TI praised my cluster. It was kind of fun, but, my goodness, the experience was nowhere so intense as that felt by those shooters. The girl with the black hair was way too into it. She looked like the caricature that liberals have of gun nuts. Kind of hot though.
Sixty, Great comments and retort.
Michael Haz said... Two of them will own handguns within the year. The guy isn't one of them.I would not have started then off with a large frame 9mm gun. Probably a smaller frame, 4" barrel length in .22 or .380 size, something that would better fit the size of their hands.While blasting away with a 12 ga pump action shotgun is a hoot, it was well beyond what first-time shooters should have been allowed to do. Can plinking with a .22 rifle would have been better.Gotta disagree. Especially if trying to change minds of liberals. Shooting is fun, and shotguns are really fun. So let them have fun. A 20 rather than a 12 is a good idea, especially for the ladies. I've taken many first timers skeet shooting at a range and, I think it's unanimous, FUN.
DBQ said ...There is nothing quite so intimidating as the sound of a 12 gauge shell being jacked into the chamber of your shotgun. Ka---Chunk!You're right there...and its an appropriate condition to keep a loaded 12 guage in when you know there's time to do that...such as in a home about 90% of the time.Contrary to many of my shooting associates, cops in particular, I carry my Model 1911 .45 with magazine in and no round in the chamber. Reason is I am a civilian and situational awareness is necessary (even paramount), and again about 75% of the time I'll have time to decide to draw the weapon and rack the slide .... which also gives out a nice loud ka-chunk!...with the same attention distracting response on those near you. I have a custom made holster that has a snap strap to cover a cocked and locked pistol, or one not cocked and locked. In the military, in my old timey days, time Model 1911's were always carried loaded with magazine but no round in the chamber...cocked and locked only when you were in a high risk zone and knew it in advance....usually when you didn't have quick access to your rifle...in Ordnance or Engineer dispositions you frequently either had hands occupied carrying tools or at best the rifle slung...awkward to reach for with tools in your hands. If you were lucky you had a squad or more of Infantry, the real kings of the battle field to protect you back while you worked on whatever the asked for...GBTI. Defer to them, they may be next to save your life.
How do you conceal a 1911, Ari?
My question would have been along the lines of "how do you afford a Kimber", but that would be rude.The difference between a Glock and a Kimber - it doesn't break your heart when the Glock ends up in an evidence locker for years on end.
Haz .... very carefully. I have a custom made leather holster, similar in design to a Galco Stinger for smaller pistols, same forward cant, etc, and it rides just slightly to the rear of the point of my hip. Under a loose un-tucked shirt it is concealed. Same thing under a tradition fit sport coat. Others use shoulder holsters, but I found them less concealable and less comfortable.I have s a similar custom holster for my FNX-45, which is a bit lighter than the my all steel Kimber....but somewhat wider. The FNX also has a de-cocking feature and true double action when decocked. H&K hammer type .45's also have those features.
60-G ....yep, the Kimber I have is a custom shop all steel pistol...was about $1800 IIRC. However the trigger take up is almost non-existent and the release very crisp at around 4 lbs...a perfect hard ball target pistol, but one that can also be carried. My FNX-45 cost less than half that and is nearly as good and lighter to carry....and still fulfills my preference for hammer fired actions. The really stupid money, if you spend it, is in Trap or Skeet Shotguns.
Sixty, Personal experience??
I'd love to own a Kimber (agreeing with Sixty's caution about regret), but a polymer frame gun carries more easily for me.
Plus, if I carried a Kimber I couldn't help pulling it out to show it to others. Beautiful pieces.
I am with you, Haz man - dude, check out the rounded/blended edges, the night sights and directionally-engaging serrations - mmm, directionally-engaging...And the whole point of concealed carry is to keep it concealed, that is, not revealed. Damn thing is too nice to hide and not discuss.Their Super Carry Ultra is available with a 3 inch barrel (so that you won't feel intimidated, Spins) and weighs 27 ounces in .45 ACP. Very good looking pistol. Very pricy. But quality costs, I reckon. And no, I have never had a pistol seized by the government. I prefer to avoid interaction with the local authorities - keep a low profile and all.
Actually, you guys sound like the kind of caricatures that liberals have of gun nuts. If you spent more on your gun than you did on your vacation, then your priorities are not in alignment.......I'm pretty sure that the girl who missed the target with a shot gun from ten feet away probably thinks that the police should have shot to only to disable the man rushing them with a knife.
Yeah, because being knowledgeable about any subject, especially firearms, is precisely what separates us from liberals.But thanks for noticing. And for concern trolling about how much we spend on vacations. I guess there is some stupid that just can't be fixed.
My first time I shot my CZ at Trigger Time, I left feeling pretty proud of myself as all my bullet holes were inside the outline near the head and the heart.I will admit that I don't particularly like to shoot. I look at it as an obligation to myself, the 2nd amendment, and humanity.
I'm not much for luxuries but I have an adjustable tempurpedic mattress with top of the line Wamsutta sheets. I'd be embarrassed to tell you how much I paid for the pillows. A man has got to know his priorities to paraphrase Clint Eastwood.
Okay y'all, first I am not a "gun nut". I am an informed and knowledgeable user of firearms...expert in some categories. My initial training was first as a 7 year old with a .22 Model 52 Winchester, and I earned my first Junior NRA (does that even exist anymore?) performance badge at the age of 8. From there it went to more and more target practice and eventually IPSC in its original format. Then came Uncle Sam's Army training. For the record my very customized Model 1911's of the 1960's cost about what I paid for my Kimber, but the newer Kimber is better all round (in essence, adjusted for inflation, more gun for less money)...and if I ever get all infatuated with target stuff again (not likely, old hands shake too much), I'll be looking at the Kimber Custom Shop target models that push $2400...or a Les Bauer target model, or if really nuts, a Clark Custom Guns Model 1911 designed for target use. Jimmy Clark Sr built part of the my 1960's pieces...there is no one better....Jim Clark Jr is carrying on the tradition down there in the bayous. You want to get real raggedy, check out Clark's version of a .460 Rowland ....whole package will cost around $3500...but gives you the ballistics of the .44 Magnum in a Model 1911. All that aside, I have taken many vacations, but generally bought few guns. You want to spend really stupid money on guns that become an addiction...try International Trap Guns or Skeet Guns...start with Krieghoff and work your way up from there (up from about $20,000 competition rigs)...I did say UP.Kind of like Tempurpedic beds :-))
I should add that the custom holsters I have were made by a local leather-smith. They ride a bit lower than most allegedly "concealable" abominations than jam your rib cage. He now has the working molds for Model 1911, FNX-45, and Heckler & Koch HK-45, .45 acp pistols. No one else makes holster of the type he's made for me, trigger guard at belt or lower level, forward cant, with or without security strapHis name is Jamie Asmar, and can be reached most M-F between Noon and 5:00 PM, by phone: 313-671-8033, or by email at: email@example.com He's also usually at Michigan gun shows.
Well, God bless you all. The only issue where conservatives have as much velocity and intensity as liberals is the 2nd amendment. I would sooner criticize Whoopi Goldberg for spending too much money on hair care products than criticize a gun nut for spending too much on guns......For the record, I support gun rights and think concealed carry permits serve to inhibit criminals. Still, I' have seen the hungry faces of children outside the shooting ranges begging their father to come home and not spend the rent money on another practice round.
William....although I've never seen hungry children begging dad to come home and not spend money on bullets...I DO understand your point.That said, I've got 65 years experience with guns and shooting, and actually find most gun owners fairly frugal. A great many own one or two handguns and practice with them in half an hour chunks...about enough to shoot 50 rounds including reloading magazines. The cost for that using the de rigueur range reloads is under $20 for 50 with varying range fees, usually under $20 as well. In short "dad" (or "mom") spends $40 maybe bi-weekly...compare to the cost of cable Internet and television not to mention sell phones.You want to see shooters spend stupid money, go to a few trap or skeet ranges. 400 shots in a day in not unusual and can easily cost near $200, more or less, depending on the kind of rounds you shoot. When I was a avid skeet and trap shooter, a club member, I would go through 800+ on a weekend. Next, the guns used for competitive skeet or trap cost enough to stock a whole safe with a dozen or more handguns at the least...it is hard to be frugal and a trap shooter, but it can be done...sort of, if you use something like the Remington 1100 semi-auto 12 Ga shotgun with a "trap" (straight or Monte Carlo)stock...that will be much less than the 4 and 5 figure over/under types that many of us use. Mainly you'll not have a concealed carry debate with the average trap shooter. We're going to look at you if face to face as if you're a nut case, or we just don't debate it at all...if we're face to face at times I'd not want you to know just what I've got.
William....I should add that many of the popular pistols of today, like Glock and others, are popular because they are frugal ....won't say "cheap" because that'd be rude :-)Witness 60-Grits comment: "The difference between a Glock and a Kimber - it doesn't break your heart when the Glock ends up in an evidence locker for years on end."
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