Saturday, June 10, 2017

John Barleycorn?



He must die!

33 comments:

The Dude said...

Lighter Traffic.

windbag said...

I love this song. My son is really into early music and has a CD with a version of this on it. Great stuff.

chickelit said...
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chickelit said...

Great pick, Trooper. You made me look up the history of the song. Winwood is a survivor.

Chip Ahoy said...

In an art book about Egyptian drawing by a British author a picture is shown of a wheat field with clearly drawn wheat stalks, while its description says, "corn field."

(I had two copies of this book because they changed the title and cover. But it has distinctive and superfluous and expensive opaque leaves inserted randomly throughout with partial printing that obscures the drawings and contributes zero. They have no real purpose. An artistic choice made by a very poor chooser. That's how I knew right off, because I had the same b.s. twice. And I go, "Aw, F!" So I gave one away. And the person I gave it go went, "Oh, Jeeze wow, Man, this is beautiful!")

And I'm all, Ha Ha Ha, Loser. Corn is a New World crop. Everyone knows that. What a stupid mistake. And the picture SHOWS wheat. (that reminds me, I bought 2 ears of corn yesterday and that stuff doesn't last.)

Always loath to give credit where it's due to the Americas.

Then I realized they meant corn as variant of corm. Describing any kernel, like wheat or barely or corn or hard bean.

This song is about barley. About growing barley. About the stages of farming and the use of the barley crop, what happens to it, reaping, harvesting, and malting barley, about beer and whiskey. Personified. Barley production must stop. It is a prohibitionary song some 400 years old with hundreds of variations.

We're against it!

Against the spirit of the song.

Singing along makes us prohibitionists.

Hibitionist. That's a funny root word. It gets a red line under it. Invalid in scrabble.

I learned all this just now. And everyone in comments to the Traffic rendition on YouTube are wrong.


chickelit said...

@Chip: "Corn" is cognate with "Kern", the German word for nucleus (as in atom). Kernwaffen means "nuclear weapons (not "corn weapons") but you see how words are cornfusing.

rcommal said...

Ain't y'all awesome.

Not.

rcommal said...

I mean, maybe y'all are lucky, on account of no longer taking care of generations up, yet, somehow, think you're devoid of responsibility for supporting those who still are.

rcommal said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbeMplxNq8

rcommal said...

I added that ^ link in tribute to and also in account of what used to be considered at a bare minimum.













rcommal said...

Hey, just last night we walked again across the street to my in-laws' house. (We're old-school,at heart: why we moved here, on account of how hard it was w/r/t my mom, when we didn't.) Do you people not get what it's like to witness the pain of someone in her '70s, always meticulous in terms of her appearance, trying to force herself to look into a mirror as clumps of her hair fall out? And this not just after her first chemo (and not just after her recent hospital stay, five days, on account of not just one but two infections), but just 2 days before her second round of chemo and just 3 days before her first round of radiation.

I appreciate her love for both the husband--oh btw we're fans, too--of her youngest child (my beloved sister-in-law and my husband's beloved youngest sister) and my son, 17 this coming Monday. All together we got. Because it mattered.

What's stopped mattering is ...

...

hey, figure it for yourself.

ndspinelli said...

Great song and album. However, I had a couple of obsessive roommates in college. They would play the same albums over and over and over again. One was a Dead Head. 'Nuff said. Another would go on streaks and he went through a long streak of John Barleycorn Must Die. Thankfully, it's such a great album, I can still appreciate it. Freedom Rider was my fav. Very talented musicians

ricpic said...

I'm glad Chip explained the meaning of the song because I could only make out half the words. Probably most who say they love the song don't even realize it's about prohibition. Well, actually it protests prohibition...I think.

OT -- Two purple grackles on my front lawn are absolutely going crazy pulling up worms. They're in bird heaven. Never seen them so excited.

virgil xenophon said...

I have the original album I bought when I was stationed in the UK circa 69-71. English vinyl, MUCH superior to 70s American, imho, but it's always a crap shoot. (thicker, deeper grooves, better sound)

AllenS said...

Nick, are you back in the Twin Cities? Any storm damage at your place? I have a broken 2nd story window. Largest hail that I've ever seen. Around 2-1/2 inches in diameter. Trees shredded of half of their leaves. Went outside and the air is about the freshest smell that I've ever smelled. Light rain now. The barn swallows are on the power lines right now, so I think the worse of it is over.

AllenS said...

My outside thermometer is lying face down on the ground. I think it's dead!

ndspinelli said...

Allen, Yes we are back. We have some branches down and had brief, small hail. But, as I watched the coverage I thought of you and my brother-in-law[Menomonie] and wondered. The worst was north of us[Apple Valley]. Our daughter in Lake Nokomis area got hit harder w/ ping pong sized hail and lost power. Take photos of damage and HAVE YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY INSPECT YOUR ROOF. The damage is not always visible and you must be proactive, they will not help unless you force them. With hail that size you may get a new roof. Same w/ vehicles if they were outside, eyeball them and report any damage. You don't need to repair the car damage w/ check you receive. I pocketed damage on older surveillance van damage years back. But, the roof damage check goes right to roofer.

AllenS said...

I have a steel roof, and steel siding. I have some dents, but they are small. You have to get really close to see any damage. I put my vehicles inside before the storm hit.

ndspinelli said...

As I would expect, Allen, you are on top of it. Didn't mean to be didactic. However, after working for soulless insurance companies for over 30 years, I hate to see people, particularly good people like you, get fucked. I just heard chainsaws and walked around the corner and saw a tree was blown down @ neighbor's house.

Rabel said...

"But, the roof damage check goes right to roofer."

Mine went right to my checking account and I still need a new roof.

There is an attachment to my policy regarding this fact.

ndspinelli said...

Rabel, That's interesting. Maybe your state insurance commission requires that attachment, which is good.

AllenS said...

Years ago, Nick, I had a tree go down on my house, and I had the insurance company pay for it.

Rabel said...

If I understand it, ND (and I probably don't) the attachment/declaration doubles my deduction for any future wind or hailstorm damage to the property but I still have coverage. Seems like that would allow me to collect twice (minus the extra deductible) for the same roof.

They're on my side!

The fact that the roof claim was my first after 20 years of continuous coverage with the same company may have worked in my favor or it may be simply a matter of state regulations.

ndspinelli said...

Rabel, Rules and regulations very from state to state. In some states, if you have a mortgage, the roof repair check is issued to the bank that carries the note. The banks like this because the bank makes sure the roof is repaired. Some states have insurance and bank commissions that are bitches for the corporations they supposedly regulate. Others have more righteous commissions.

Rabel said...

Back to the song. The various interpretations I saw are amusing.

It's about alcoholism!
It's about prohibition!
It's about Jesus!

No, it's a joke. A medieval joke that got turned into a poem that got turned into a song.

Imagine two slightly intoxicated Englishmen sitting in a public house nursing their barley based beverages. The more creative of them goes into a somewhat Chip-like ramble about the poor barley and the trials and tribulations it goes through in the harvesting process - they they cut it, they thresh it, they tie it down, they grind it, etc., but in the end the barley survives and lives and wins because it still ferments and turns into alcohol. Skoal or Cheers or Bottoms Up says the other guy. And they drink to the barley.

I guess you had to be there.

ndspinelli said...

"vary" not very.

Rabel said...

ND, the house is paid for. That likely played a part in the insurer's actions. I had to show the adjuster the payoff letter.

ndspinelli said...

Allen, I'm thinking the tree was damaged by lightning? Homeowner's insurance pays for that loss, but typically not for wind damage.

ndspinelli said...

Rabel, Yes. I'm sure it did.

AllenS said...

It happened in the mid 1970s. Long time ago, but the large willow tree went down during a storm, and iirc, it was wind. My deductible back then was $250, now it's $1,000.

Except for the barn swallows, there doesn't seem to be any other birds around.

ndspinelli said...

Allen, It was either lightning or maybe an adjuster/agent who knew and liked you. That said, maybe insurance did cover wind loss to trees back in the 70's, that predates my experience. But now, and going back to the 80's, insurance would not pay for a tree that blows down. Now, they will pay for the damage caused by a tree that was blown down by wind, and will pay for removal of that blown down tree, but won't replace the tree.

AllenS said...

The tree went down on my house. One branch went through the roof. Had to get someone out here with a bucket to carefully remove the tree from the house without it doing even more damage. No adjuster even came out to the house. My insurance agent just told me to get everything fixed and send the bill to him. The tree removal guy asked what my deductible was and made sure I got that back too. Win.

The Dude said...

A red maple blew over onto the roof of my house during hurricane Fran in 1996. I got up on the roof and cut it up, tossed the pieces over the edge and had it all sliced up into firewood lengths before the rain even stopped. Fortunately the roof was not damaged. I helped a lot of folks saw tons of wood after that storm - one guy's cars were flattened when a bunch of giant, yet rotten red oaks fell on them.

The worst damage I have sustained yet was due to an ice storm in 2002 - 34 trees came down in my yard and squashed a lot things. Insurance paid a pittance, but what are you going to do, eh?