Wednesday, June 28, 2017

"California invested heavily in solar power. Now there’s so much that other states are sometimes paid to take it"

Well, actually better than free. California produced so much solar power on those days that it paid Arizona to take excess electricity its residents weren’t using to avoid overloading its own power lines.

It happened on eight days in January and nine in February as well. All told, those transactions helped save Arizona electricity customers millions of dollars this year, though grid operators declined to say exactly how much. And California also has paid other states to take power.

No single entity is in charge of energy policy in California. This has led to a two-track approach that has created an ever-increasing glut of power and is proving costly for electricity users. Rates have risen faster here than in the rest of the U.S., and Californians now pay about 50% more than the national average.

(Link to the whole thing)


bagoh20 said...

My operation runs a lot of heavy machinery on two shifts (16 hours/day) plus two 4k watt laser run automatically over 20 hours/day. We use a lot of power. Before deciding to move it all to Nevada, I had the power company estimate my costs in NV using my usage in CA. The cost in NV was almost 2/3 lower. An imaginary line in the desert separating insane leftists from regular people was shown to save me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year just in electricity alone. Now I know why. Also much of the cost in CA is simply legislated in a quixotic attempt to save the world from getting warmer and thus greener.

Only in California does an oversupply of something increase it's cost. They are magical thinkers.

edutcher said...


Leland said...

The thing is, there is no way CA is producing so much solar power that it is meeting all their electrical needs and then some. I will accept that when they cause business's like Bags to move out, the will end up with more supply than demand.

Amartel said...

Nobody wants our amazing green energy soooolaaaar poooower waaaah.
We have to pay other states to take it off our haaaaaaaands.
How do we get out of this.
(Ow, that totally, like, hurt my brain.)
Lite thinking.
Hey, [energy efficient] LIGHTBULB.
Solar powered bullet [pause for triggered moment] train! Woo woo.

Amartel said...

Leland I'm just spitballing here but it may be an issue of introducing the solar power into the grid. Otherwise they'd just use it all up in Sacramento to cool their bureaucrat asses all summer while the rest of us resume business as usual rolling blackouts.

ampersand said...

California will be the first state in the history of the world to go to the poor house in a high speed train.
Provided the poor house is in Merced or Bakersfield and they are boarding at a high speed rail station in Merced or Bakersfield.

AllenS said...

bags, I remember you talking about moving to NV, did you make the move yet?