Sunday, August 14, 2016

Inconvenient Truth Number 678: Are blacks worse than Atomic Bombs?


by Vox Day @ Vox Popoli August 14, 2016
I was drawn to look into this for myself after Snopes tried to dismiss a meme that was going around comparing Hiroshima to Detroit on the basis of some rather spurious grounds, so I thought I'd have a look at the evidence myself.
Now, some have argued that because Detroit's core downtown is still intact, this proves that the decay of the city surrounding it is irrelevant. But a city is more than its downtown, as the comparative population figures demonstrate the same contrast that the pictures do.

Detroit population 
1950: 1.8 million
2016: 680,000

Hiroshima population
1945: 260,000
2015: 1.2 million

Note that this is the most favorable possible comparison for Detroit, as the 1945 Hiroshima population is post-bombing and is based upon the smallest reported casualty count. Moreover, Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013, which was the largest municipal bankruptcy filing in US history.

The claim that the pictures are misleading is a dishonest and knowingly deceitful response. The fact that the downtown still exists merely indicates the destructive process is not yet entirely complete, as that downtown is now "a tiny urban island" in a grass-covered, depopulated sea.


In 1950, Detroit was America's fifth largest city and one of the most prosperous on the back of its booming motor industry. It prompted the construction of skyscrapers on the banks of the river and the development of vast suburban housing projects in the surrounding areas.

But almost 55 years on, a dwindling motor industry and a dramatic fall in blue collar jobs has caused people to leave the Michigan city, abandoning their homes and businesses. These aerial photos reveal the tiny urban island that is left - a clutter of high-rises surrounded by empty housing plots now covered in grass. There are vast areas of open spaces dotted with crumbling industrial buildings and barely-standing Victorian homes until you reach the upmarket suburbs.
The fact that these facts may be uncomfortable or make you feel bad is irrelevant. The evidence is very clear that a black population in excess of an as-yet-undetermined percentage of the overall population renders the continuation of Western civilization impossible. This has been observed everywhere from Capetown to Detroit, and the comparison with Hiroshima only underlines the cultural, economic, and physical devastation that an excessively black population is likely to wreak on a society.

The cuckservative response is that it is Democrat rule, or socialist governing principles, not blacks, who are responsible. This omits two important facts. One, blacks vote for Democrats more solidly than any other group. Two, for most of the post-war years for which I've been able to find the relevant data, Hiroshima has been governed by members of the Japan Social Democratic Party, "a political party that advocates the establishment of a socialist Japan."

What should be done about it? I don't know. But since my people were forcibly put on reservations, I'm not terribly inclined to pay much attention to any appeals to equality or the rhetorical hysterics of dyscivilizationists protesting that nothing can, or should, be done to avert the collapse of civilization throughout the West.



38 comments:

Trooper York said...

Vox Day's heritage is American Indian so he is not bound by the conventional white guilt.

This would be part of a national conversation about race that Obama is always calling for if they want to talk about facts and not bullshit.

AprilApple said...

Blacks kept down by their democrat party masters are worse than bombs.

Yes.

Trooper York said...

Instead they will pursue redress of their grievances and positive change by burning down gas stations, looting the CVS and robbing the liquor store.

edutcher said...

The issue is not blacks so much as Democrats.

Trooper York said...

Vox Day's heritage is American Indian so he is not bound by the conventional white guilt.

Some of my forebears may have fought Indians in the Mohawk Valley during the American Revolution (still trying to nail that down) and I'm happy to say I'm not bound by the conventional white guilt, either.

ricpic said...

You can't keep those Nipponese down!

Trooper York said...

Democrats are not looting. Democrats are not stealing cars and shooting at the police. Sorry that's a bullshit copout.

In the 1860's the Irish were the criminal element. They were the thieves and miscreants. But that ended in time. In the 1920's and '30's it was the Italians and the Jews. When is the black community going to stand up and vomit the criminal element out of their mouth. When are they going to turn their anger against the criminals instead of the police or white people.

edutcher said...

They're not? For whom do you think many of those people vote?

And the Demos are looting, certainly.

I know your point, but the Demos have owned blacks for 50 years. We can all wonder how people can be so unquestioning (back when I was a straphanger in Fluffia, you'd see all the young black wearing the exact same thing on the bus, trolley, or subway - Triple FAT Goose, Colorado Rockies, whatever the fashion, they ALL wore it), but the Demos have worked singlemindedly to mold black thought (or the lack of it).

The idea that it is something in blacks inherently will have to take in the fact there was a time the black family was stronger than the white family.

I'll give you some props about the bell curve, but I think a lot of this is the work of the Leftes post WWII.

Trooper York said...

Facts are stubborn things ed. Excuses are excuses. The discussion will never be had in honesty. Sheriff Clarke is telling it true. But nobody is listening. Until the black community turns its support to the police in stead of the criminals this will only get worse. Baltimore is a black city. Black politicians. A mainly black police force. The cops they tried to railroad for political purposes were predominately black. To talk about the Democrats and politics is to deflect the conservation.

Trooper York said...

I gave Baltimore as an example but of course this is Wisconsin. Perhaps Milwaukee would benefit if we dropped an atomic bomb like we did in Hiroshima.

Shouting Thomas said...

Well, the black destruction is organic, if you see what I mean.

No radiation poisoning involved in the wrecking process.

Trooper York said...

It is gluten free too!

Leland said...

The thing is, Japanese have their own country. See, if we gave BLM there own country, shipped them there, then they would run it as good as the Japanese. On second thought; maybe not.

Still, I'm with Ed on this; Democrats tend to make a mess. They just then move to other places, leaving the poor to fight over what remains.

Trooper York said...

Portland Maine has Democratic Mayors since 1980 and has not had a riot. What's different?

edutcher said...

Mooses keep the streets clear?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Most inner city black communities, when they reach a certain critical mass go to crap. You can couch it as racial (and that is part of the problem in how it is portrayed) but it is a cultural thing, but it is a real thing. Examples: Camden, Bed Sty, Newark, Detroit, Oakland, South Central, St. Louis, Chicago, etc. Real estate in some urban markets can change a neighborhood and gentrify it (like Bed Sty, Harlem, etc.) but most of the locals don't benefit, they just get displaced.

What seems to happen is when you reach a certain level of lawlessness, law abiding people who can afford to leave. Cops are looked at as the enemy yet it means the neighborhood is run by gangsters and hoods. You have youth told their condition is not their fault and given no example of working hard and getting ahead as other ethnic groups do. Add to it a culture with not a lot of fathers around to mentor their young men, and things go real bad.

You see a similar pattern in some white working class neighborhoods. You see it too in rural america with the meth epidemic.

Trooper York said...

Race and culture are inextricably linked. That is why the Japanese were able to recover in the face of being hit by an atom bomb.

That was the point of this post.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

I am not a fan of predestination. And cultures is not genetically determined. You have black upper middle class neighborhoods and white shit holes. You take a black kid and raise him or her in a white family and...and they tend to turn out like the culture they are raised in.

If you are saying black genetically doomed to live like this, I disagree.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

culture is not genetically determined. My bad.

I have plenty of Black Angus friends and we get along just fine. But I don't trust those Jerseys. They have crazy eyes.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

I know your point is how the Japanese rebuilt and got on with their lives after the war. I am going off topic with this point.

The atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while bad, when compared to other horrors of WWII are probably not in the top ten. Nazi death camps and the Holocaust. Firebombing Tokyo and Dresden. Nanking Rape. Stalingrad. Battle of Berlin. Most people get on with their lives after a horrific experience.

Are North Koreans different than South Koreans? Only in culture and political systems.

Trooper York said...

You know the older I get the more I think I should become a Calvinist. Sixty has converted me.

I have to get a snake to handle or something.

ampersand said...

Some try to blame Detroit's downfall for reliance on the auto industry. But for years after Detroit grew into an festering sewer, three surrounding counties maintained their status among the ten riches counties in the US, relying on that same industry.

rcocean said...

Boston, Seattle, San Jose, and Portland haven't had conservative or even Republican mayors in a long time.

Plenty of Japanese cities are run by fucking socialists. Same thing with Norway, Switzerland, and Italy.

Yet, they all seem to be doing well.

Trooper, is right. If the Blacks want to see the cause of their problems, they only have to look in the mirror.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

That sort of thinking is lazy Troop. Genetics play a role in all sort of things, but when it comes to why some cultures do well and others fail, it is typically the culture itself. We have created a system under a political party that wants to keep its voters dependent on them, using other people's money that encourages dependent behavior. There is also a de-evolution of our culture.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

raccoon, all the cities you described have lots of money, mostly Asians and white professionals, small minority communities (outside of their tech bubble). The politics are mostly nuts and indulgent BS, but they can afford boondoggles like light rail and $15 minimum wage. Especially when most of the poor are forced to move to outer suburbs.

You can afford to be socialist when someone else is footing the bill.

The black community needs to clean up its act: starting with fathers raising their kids, not tolerating crime in their own neighborhoods, etc. The policing is not the problem, it's the symptom of the underlying problem.

edutcher said...

Maybe all the cities named that are doing well is because they actually punish minority crime, treat blacks like everybody else.

Remember Southie in the 70s, how Baaston showed its racist face to the world?

edutcher said...

And, cool, Walker's called in the National Guard.

Guess he wants to be HUDSec in the Trump Administration.

Trooper York said...

Facts are stubborn things.

No matter how many excuses you want to make the facts are that White European Judeo/Christian culture is far superior to any other ever developed anywhere. By diluting, devaluing and setting up false equivalence with other inferior cultural norms you are aiding in our destruction.

It is as simple as that.

edutcher said...

OK, you've got a good point there.

The thing is the Commie Slob culture set up in the 60s by Yuri Andropov and the KGB replaced what works with feminism, Black Power, La Raza, Gay Lib (no offense), the sexual revolution, and the welfare state in a way not even Franklin Roosevelt could have conceived has replaced the White European Judeo/Christian culture that helped blacks move up in the world.

We're not adopting any African culture - Kwanzaa shows how phony that is. It's something that no society could ever live with.

Trooper York said...

But they have adopted black African culture. The Crips and the Bloods might as well be the Hutus and Tutsi. Tribalism rules and murder is the result.

Facts are stubborn things.

Trooper York said...

The hatred and scorn heaped on Judeo/Christian culture has its results. This is the fruit of the decades long effort of the left to delegitimize it.

Now benign neglect might not suffice. We might need aggressive neglect.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop, You do not have to call it white (even though most of its adherents --especially in the original, are Caucasian), it is Western Civilization. I am all for that. I am a Western Civilization Supremacist and consider cultural dilution (other than in the area of food and the arts) to be mostly nonsense. And even in regards to food and art, it is usually a blend of both.

East Asians adopted it and frankly outdo most Caucasians at it. To the extent India succeeds, it is due to its adoption of Western Civilization.

There are black Caribbean Islands, like the Bahamas that adopted it to their benefit. If only Sidney Poitier lived what he acted in To Sir, With Love. There are other black Caribbean islands, like Haiti that did not.

ed, obviously you have not spent much time in Portland, Seattle, or San Jose. The issue is scale, there are percentage wise few blacks in those cities. They have problems greatly in proportion to their population, but the scale is small.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Tribalism is the default status for the human race as a whole. You don't think there is tribalism in Europe? Here?

edutcher said...

Trooper York said...

But they have adopted black African culture. The Crips and the Bloods might as well be the Hutus and Tutsi. Tribalism rules and murder is the result.

Is it? Maybe it's a general gang culture, like the Irish gangs in the 1840s or the Mafia.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

There are black Caribbean Islands, like the Bahamas that adopted it to their benefit. If only Sidney Poitier lived what he acted in To Sir, With Love. There are other black Caribbean islands, like Haiti that did not.

Haiti is French. everywhere they went, the French came to exploit, not to settle. Same can be said for the Spaniards.

Most places the Limeys went, they settled.

ed, obviously you have not spent much time in Portland, Seattle, or San Jose. The issue is scale, there are percentage wise few blacks in those cities. They have problems greatly in proportion to their population, but the scale is small.

So they kept them out? Well, nice to know they're the hypocrites we always thought they were. But the fact is, are there white gangs, white hoods?

Bet there are and they bring the hammer down on them.

Trooper York said...

I agree that tribalism is the default status of the human race. I don't think I am describing it correctly so I have to rethink it. Or at least how I express it.

When you describe the Culture as Western you devalue the Judeo/Christian aspect of it. There were cultures in the West that did not follow those core beliefs. Rome. The Vikings. Others. But eventually they accepted the civilizing aspects of the Judeo/Christian ethic. There were some regressions back into savagery. Slavery. The Holocaust. But by and large society accepted the norms of Judeo/Christian ethics. That is no longer the case. Atheism, Hedonism and the Death Cult of Islam are now the much preferred beliefs of a large section of the media, intelligentsia and academic world. That is at the root of these problems.

Sixty Grit said...

Calvanism is good, but too flashy for me. Too bad the Shakers closed up shop - now there was a community I could relate to.

Hard work, simplicity, plain living, singing and dancing. What's not to like?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop, Western Civ is a continuum. What the Greeks and Romans developed was combined with the Judeo tradition brought by the Christians. That has developed for over 2000 years. The Judeo/Christian ethics are definitely part of it, but it is being deluded by atheism (the Communists killed as many and more and the Nazis and their neo paganism). Hedonism sounds great when you are in your twenties and stoned. It grows old quick.

Immigration, provided it does not overwhelm the culture, does not dilute it. A lot of immigrants are better Christians than most natives. But the current free for all? Oh yeah, we are fucked.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Ed, those cities did not get a lot of black immigration (although the Oregon territory did ban blacks back in the day). San Jose has a median house price over a million that does a pretty good job of keeping people out.

Those liberal cities try to avoid conflict like other cities and it is hypocrisy SOP

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop, 60 Min had a segment on a French Catholic priest who researches and documents Jewish WWII kill sites in Eastern Europe. The best and worst of humanity on display.