Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has surged ahead to become the latest front-runner in the campaign for the Iowa caucuses, dislodging Ben Carson and opening an impressive lead over a stalled Donald Trump, a Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll shows.
The firebrand junior senator from Texas is backed by 31 percent of those likely to attend the Republican caucuses that start the presidential nomination season on Feb. 1. Trump is a distant second at 21 percent, up slightly from 19 percent in October, but below his peak of 23 percent in August.
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Interesting. I'm glad that Trump has said what he has.
McConnell: Cruz? Same damn problem as Trump. David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger warned me if we can't maneuver a Jeb nomination they'll have my head on a platter, literally, at their upcoming NWO Saturnalia Dinner in Gstaad.
Ryan: This is series. We'll have to appeal to the mercy of a higher authority.
McConnell: A higher authority?
Ryan: The Rothschilds, silly.
Junior Senator
It's Iowa
If we only had Trump's experience and connections, Rubio's looks and Cruz's intellect. So if it's Hilary vs Cruz that would be two people with very little accomplishment going for the top job in the world. It sure isn't a meritocracy (Ameritocracy)
If Trump said what he did 4 or 8 years ago, it would have simply been ridiculed, and gone nowhere. It's not so much Trump, but rather that many people have changed. The bullshit has really worn thin. It took a hell of a big dose, but the hangover his here. The people had to be ready for Trump talk, and it took Trump to show the candidates that they were. If he stays stuck where he is, the other candidates can assume his voters are a limited group that can be appealed to, but that they are better off not pandering to if they want to win. I think that's true.
Did you see what Paul Rtan had to say in the New York Times?
If Trump or Cruz is not the nominee it will be business as usual.
This poll is just the migration of Carsons support. Plus it it is just one poll. It might be an outlier.
The debate next week will be yuuuuuggggeeeeee!!!!
The debate is on CNN. I'm not watching it on CNN. I'll catch it on a Youtube instead of giving CNN any viewing stats.
I hate CNN but you have to watch the whole thing live without a filter.
Do the post the whole thing on YouTube?
Since when do real conservatives trust MSM pollsters? More than reality, this poll result is more likely an agenda driven effort by Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register to harm Trump.
Trooper York said...The debate next week will be yuuuuuggggeeeeee!!!!
True at one level: Every politico type will be tuning in, hoping to see lawyer Cruz torpedo Trump like Greenwald did to Queeg in "The Caine Mutiny." Even the liberals will watching, anxiously. But it could also turn out to be an exposure of the GOP elite -- the "Keefers" if you will -- to keep the movie meme going.
If Trump said what he did 4 or 8 years ago, it would have simply been ridiculed...
I'm old enough to remember the days whenever there was a problem Obama and the liberals would urges us to have a "conversation".
Gaging the reaction to Trump's conversation, I now know beyond the shadow of a doubt, that's not really what they wanted all along.
A "conversation" was code, a sedative, a way of imposing what has already been decided, a fait accompli... fatal in this case. An unarmed Christmas celebration.
"We need to have a conversation." = Listen and obey.
Bloomie commissioned poll, MOE 4.9.
A few more caveats for those interested.
Cruz has the ground game, so he may well win, but the fanfare this has been given makes me wonder how much of a bandwagon the anti Trump crowd thinks they need to build.
YMMV
Lem said...
If Trump said what he did 4 or 8 years ago, it would have simply been ridiculed...
I'm old enough to remember the days whenever there was a problem Obama and the liberals would urges us to have a "conversation".
Goes back to Willie.
Remember his Town Halls on race and how any answer that didn't fit the narrative got cross-examined by the Shyster In Chief?
There are two major flaws in the polling data and the conclusions drawn therefrom.
First, the polling was done by the DesMoines Register newspaper which has been been highly anti-Trump from the beginning of his campaign, exacerbated by Trump barring the DesMoines Register's political reporter from all Trump rallies. It is not an objective poll; it is a poll undertaken by a media that has the stated purpose of causing Trump to lose.
Second, the Iowa causes are not an open election. They are a pep rally with the cheerleaders doing the voting. Delegates have already committed (for the most part) to one candidate or another. Their minds are made up. The delegates are usually working as volunteers in the campaign for the candidate they support.
It is hardly a free and open election, and the result are essentially fixed. So the "polling" is really just a tally of the caucus goers. It is not a polling of Iowa voters in general.
The results are not very indicative of who will be the nominee. In 2008, for example. Mike Huckabee won the Iowa caucus and John McCain, the eventual nominee, placed fourth. If anything, the Caucuses are a marketing and fund raising tool for the candidates, and not much more.
If Trump loses, the media will make A. BIG. DEAL. about it, because the media hates Trump. In the end, though, it won't mean much.
exacerbated by Trump barring the DesMoines Register's political reporter from all Trump rallies.
I didn't know that.
The media hate all our candidates - except Jeb.
Link to article about Trump barring Des Moines Register reporter from rally here.
It seems that the Des Moines Register made the story about themselves which is journalistic malpractice.
Trump took an extraordinary step to counter extraordinary coverage. It's simply shocking to me that they reported that Trump had no credentials to be President.
OTOH, Iowa's love of Cruz may just be ethanol-fueled rage.
Lem said...
exacerbated by Trump barring the DesMoines Register's political reporter from all Trump rallies.
I didn't know that.
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I think he's also barred Univision out of conflict of interest: He's suing that company.
AprilApple said...
The media hate all our candidates - except Jeb.
No, they also love Chuckie Schumer's brother from another mother, too.
"Trump had no credentials to be President."
That's incredible. I have my reservations, but he is far and away the most accomplished and qualified in the race on either side.
To The Des Moines Register and the NYT, "credentialed" means went to an approved college and swallowed the right dogma.
It's simply shocking to me that they reported that Trump had no credentials to be President.
Credentials? We don't need no stinkin' credentials.
Seriously. I wasn't aware there was a series of credentials or criteria to become President. Is there a test?
The voters are the ones (for good or bad) who decide what the criteria are to be elected.
These self appointed elitist arbiters who want to decide for everyone else what criteria or credentials are needed really get me angry. The gall.
grrrrrrr
In fact Trump is just like Harry.
He went bankrupt and he was a bagman for Angelo Bruno in Atlantic City.
It is perfect. Just say
Have you read what cartoonist said? Dilbert, I think. I'm not sure.
His observation 1: Trump split the Republican party and created new interest from otherwise uninterested voters.
His observation 2: Trump busted a move on Mex immigration and border protection and his numbers rose instead of falling.
His observation 3: Trump busted a move on Islamic immigration and challenged the agencies charged with protecting it and his numbers rose instead of failing.
His postulate 1 : Trump knows that Latinos poll at 60%+ on restricting Islamic/Muslim whatever immigration.
His observation 4: Oof, that's a bit racist of them about that one thing innit.
His theory: Trump will connect the two, play Mex against Islam and his numbers will rise. Trump's anticipated gambit: split Democrat party just like he split Republican party, using their shortcomings against them, using their own slice and dice method against them. Look for Trump raising an issue of Latino objection to Islamic immigration to gauge if his guess is right about Trump. Trump diddy dump dump
Say my name.
Say my name.
Say my name and I will live forever.
Regardless of the Trump/Cruz drama, Conor beat the hell outta Aldo.
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