Monday, July 28, 2014

If This Is True......

Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of this article.  It's a depressing read for a Monday morning, or any morning for that matter.

A military coup in the US?  Our power grid brought down by a nuclear attack?  The US military deploying offshore to save itself from an attack on land?  Russian troops invited in to help "crowd control"?

It's easy to read the article here and believe that it's probably fiction.  And equally easy to read it and believe that it may be true.  What do you think?

Amazon has excellent prices on standby generators, by the way.

24 comments:

Shouting Thomas said...

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away


Thanks for the paranoid site. I always enjoy that stuff.

The Dude said...

That's an odd bit of writing - is the guy's name "Ham" or "Hamm". If you can't get a simple, meaty name right, you lose credibility with me.

deborah said...

I thought the EMP threat has been shown to be overblown. That we've hardened our wires, or whatever. At least in hospitals, etc.

Michael Haz said...

Don't you find the military exercises interesting? And CIA embeds in the military?

Mumpsimus said...

Yeah, that's some very twitchy stuff there. My favorite nuggets:

"...why would the military make a decided effort to keep our Navy in a permanent state of readiness...?"
(Gosh, that's a puzzler all right.)

"The United States has the bulk of its land-based fighting units in Afghanistan..."
(Wrong by at least an order of magnitude.)

ricpic said...

Haven't all the officers who might lead a military coup against The Won been purged by The Won?

ndspinelli said...

Bowe Bergdahl will support the prez.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Being prepared is not paranoia.

Assuming an "event" knocks out the power for an extended period of time is not an unreasonable assumption. We have enough supplies and food in our pump house and other storage areas that we could live for probably a year on what we have. It would be pretty boring food but livable. In addition, there is plenty of game available if we run out of meat. Deer, geese, ducks, pheasants, cows, goats, sheep. Vegetables would be harder to come by, but there are lots of dehydrated substitutions. (Note to self.....get a dehydrator for the apples, pears and other fruit...I should also buy some sulphur and more fruit fresh powder)

We DO need a whole house or standby generator though because if the power goes out, the only thing that is of dire necessity to continue to operate is the pump in the well. Our little work generator wouldn't be able to handle it. Otherwise we would have to go to some lengths to transport water from other sources (rivers) and would need to treat the water (Clorox bleach is good). It would be nice to be able to keep the freezers running for a while, until we eat the food that is stored.

Storage of gasoline and oil gas mix (chainsaws for firewood and other tools) is problematic in that the new mixes of gasoline don't store very well. We have several large propane tanks and some smaller ones that can substitute if the natural gas gets disrupted.

Much of this "prep" is not due to expecting a collapse of civilization (just yet anyway although I think it is much closer than we realize) but because we live in the country, have limited access to supplies and the power often goes out in the winter for days. (That isn't a problem for the frozen food, though because we can just stick it outside and the temps will keep it frozen.)

If there is a real collapse of civilization, the problems are going to be worse in the cities where people are unprepared and really naive about life. We are a looooong way from there and people here know how to defend themselves :-)

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Anything could happen today.

edutcher said...

If it did happen, I wouldn't be surprised.

Some of these items are patently looney, some not so much.

PS The only reason we've had a 3 division Marine corps the last 65 years is the Lefty Demos wanted a counterweight against an Army coup.

Unknown said...

I find it comforting that our military are standing at the ready.

I find it sickening that the left want to dismantle it. but of course if we don't have any military spending we can spend all that money on universal Hillary Obama care. VA for the masses.
The government hospital corporate complex is soon. and it's freeeeee!

Fr Martin Fox said...

April:

The left doesn't want to "dismantle" the military; but they do want to "transform" it fundamentally.

deborah said...

I'm not downplaying the need to be prepared for long-term energy loss or the need to be self-sufficient.

I was just making an off the cuff remark that I had heard EMP attacks are hardened against, to some degree.

DBQ, do you have a system in place for rotating filled gas cans? How long does gas in a gas can last?

ndspinelli said...

Hillary HATES the military, and vice versa.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

How long does gas in a gas can last?

Not very long. At most 60 to 90 days. Maybe longer if you use a stabilizer. We mostly just keep cans for the mower, small generator and to mix with the other power tools. Chainsaws, string trimmers etc.

We have 7 vehicles and one diesel truck...and keep the tanks full or nearly full at all times.

Guildofcannonballs said...

How could the Skull and Bones pull the coup?

That's what Steve, of the GREAT, and I ain't kiddin' neither, webstite nalert.blogspot.com wants folks to consider.

How can we tell him about Harvard and its influence yet keep him on board with hating the newest Skull/Bones which are indeed high-grade drifters grifting at unprecedented grift levels?

How can we keep Crack?

Criticism hasn't seemed to work, but I think Deborah is on to something.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Sure sure we could all go find "others" to influence and whatnot, but how about influencing those within our sphere today, not those we might influence tomorrow with our wisdom and whatnot.

Bad, in terms of not pleasant, real encounters, I would surmise, and therefore do, are better for conservatives than online anything.

"Social" bullshit is antisocial shit.

Of course, you're talking here to a hundredaire not a billionare.

Guildofcannonballs said...

The saddest thing of all, it would only take me about 40K to write the bestest bestest of them all.

Makes billions over years.

And Iowahawk ain't be writin' like Dorothy Parker.

Why not?

Did everybody love Dottie from Day One.

Why would they?

I can give hundreds of reasons for Iowahawk to be writing the best of the best.

That is nowhere near L.A.

Or California.

Texas yes.

Texas yes.

rcommal said...

Don't forget about water, is what I always say.

Really, I do. A gazillion stores of beans (or whatever: "stores of beans" is just the stand-in for a concept) won't matter if water is lacking, or even if water is the most important challenge.

rcommal said...

Dried beans without water are like guns without ammo. Metaphorically speaking (but also, this is true.)

rcommal said...

I have about as much faith in the notion that our wires have been hardened, or whatever, as I do in the notion that our country's infrastructure, as demonstrated by the condition of its roads and bridges and so forth, etc., and so on, has been maintained.

Which is to say...

...my lack of faith is not misbegotten, IMO.

FWTW. ; )

rcommal said...

Similarly, DBQ makes reference to an important thing, and that is the issue of fueling. That to which she referred is similar to that to which I'm referring.

rcommal said...

No equipment is invulnerable to lack of fuel. From dried beans to vehicles and everything between. Equipment without fuel = something akin to Ozymandias, found beached on sand in a desert.

; )

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Dried beans without water are like guns without ammo. Metaphorically speaking (but also, this is true.)

This is so very true! People who live in the cities with municipal water systems take water for granted. Think that it just magically appears when you turn on the tap. They also have a similar magical thinking about sewage. It just goes away when you flush.

When you live someplace where your source of water and sewage removal is solely dependent on your own resources or actions. Where when the power goes out, you have not just no lights but NO WATER, you don't take it for granted.

We are purchasing a 2600 gallon potable water storage tank for ourselves, to store more water in case our well should begin to fail, as many wells in California ARE doing. We are on a small muni type of water system that could last for a small amount of time should there be no electricity by using the back up generators. Right now we use our well solely for agricultural purposes, however it is very potable, clean, cold water and we could easily convert to using it for household use.

We also, in my husband's business, market and install these 2600 to 5000 gallon water storage systems for his clients who are seeing their existing water supplies dwindle. Cheaper than trying to drill a new well.

We are lucky in that we can hand pump water from the river below us, if we had to...BUT....it must be treated which requires bleach and boiling if possible, followed by filtering for particulates. Nearby, we have other rivers that are cleaner, clearer and some pristine springs. But....as rcommal indicates, it takes some fuel to get to the water or expect a full day (or more) of walking, hauling and carrying. Horses are going to be quite popular again in our area as something other than a vanity pet or a part of a competition roping team