Psst... you don't have to waste an entire day trying to sign on to that abomination, not to mention declaring all your business to the government, just because you might be curious about how much "savings" Obama has told you are supposed to get.
@JohnEkdahl @redsteeze Looks like the morons who tried to hide price data on HC dot gov behind a login screen didn’t https://t.co/AI71GRmgMM
— DC Dude (@DCDude1776) October 23, 2013
Like I said, this could be a fake. Take it with a large grain of salt.*
Twitter's DC Dude , *Althouse link
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This may have been public for a while now.
oops.
I would rather give all my personal information to a stranger on Craig's List than send it to this pinnacle of failure of an information age. You have to be a complete idiot to not realize that hackers are all over this thing right now like sharks on a floating whale carcass. At least with the whale, they eventually run out of meat, but this thing will feed every cyber criminal in the virtual ocean for years to come. Oh, the damage you cause, you boneheads. What utter hubris, and stupidity.
Just mail it in the NSA.
Same thing.
I thought this was going to be the dailybeast item about the Washington national security guy tweeting inside things vexing the administration for 34 months, busted and fired just now. A number of his tweets are appealing, but the whole episode shows the inbreeding so profoundly deep we could lose half of them and do all the things that need doing and do all that more smoothly and efficiently.
Including socializing healthcare if it must be done. There are no advantages only disadvantages after a certain level. What is that level? How would I know. Do I look like a numerologist? A soothsayer? I know that my own deal is ace, expensive as hell and slavery throughout, yes, but ace. And it saved my life. And it's district wide employee thing. But it could just as easily be State, or any association at all. Any form of socialization except federal. Why? Because as shown they simply cannot be trusted. Sorry, but having them is not worth the cost. They never do deserve their positions. Rent seeking is what it is. Incredibly expensive rent seeking. Dishonerable. Politicized. Easily manipulated. Associated with IRS. Extremely invasive. Linked with Democratic voting apparatus.
DCdude responded to my inquire...
"@Lemang01 Prior to this, I’ve only seen averages. The premium data was only available after you give them all your info."
Show me yours and I show you mine type deal.
inquiry.
Missing some states. (Some have opted out of setting up exchanges ... but CA and WA? Deep blue states?)
I wanted to look up what my lefty relatives were going to be paying.
But then -- I see in the news people with real jobs (the one or two who have gotten through and picked a plan) are getting hefty subsidies.
So who is paying for the subsidies?
ot: Speaking of criminal. Terry McAuliffe is the new Jon Corzine.
But i don't know about exact promises for data healthcare so please tell me all promises and rules.
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http://www.whywaitintheer.com/healthlinks.php
More corruption and ineptitude from the DNC-IRS.
Inept? Perhaps not. Paying off people to vote D seems to be working.
@April,
The Soviets perfected corruption and ineptitude.
Their remnant countries are still suffering from that evil.
Now we face the same.
On a brighter note, soon I will be facing a gubmint windfall. In the UK, the NHS socialist medicine service is paying MDs about $80 to deny elderly patients hospitalization when they get sick, but instead let them stay home and die. Saves the State over $1600!
Woot!
Pogo- Are you a Doc in the UK? I guess I did not know that.
Britain's NHS is a gruesome cruel trick. The idea that Americans would want that pile of socialist crap over here is astonishing.
That central planning will get you every time.
No, just Midwest USA, but looking forward to our own Soviet Americanus diktats doing the same thing here!
Wait wait wait. You mean to tell me Our beloved benevolent King lied to us?
"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
-King Obama
"Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies."
(Drudge)
our own Soviet Americanus diktats. Wonderful.
with Apparatchiks and everything!?!
Yes, and soon, Sebelius will be airbrushed out of official photos.
Death to traitors and wreckers!
Can you believe she never let King Barry know that the Obamacare website wasn't working?
I mean, the poor guy had to find out like the rest of us, just after it was opened! Imagine!
It's all for the glory of the King.
Or as socialist Jesuits might say, "Ad maiorem Barry gloriam"
Who's paying for the subsidies? My insurance is supposed to go up $400 a month for the same coverage, and I will not receive a subsidy, so I guess that means I'm paying for someone else's. I've maintained insurance since my first job as an adult, which paid very little, so you can imagine how happy I am about this whole thing.
"Who's paying for the subsidies? "
There's a lot of suckers in this poker game.
A few folks will get great subsidies, but the Borg will take most of it for "Administration".
Yes, Freeman. You and the rest who have seen jumps in coverage are paying for the subsidies as well as the rest of the tax paying public. Money isn't free and despite what the Federal Reserve is attempting to do....it isn't magically multiplied just by printing more dollars.
The fact is that ALL insurance plans must now have extra coverage for those magical 10 essential services, makes the plans more expensive. Instead of getting a choice of coverages, I must buy a plan that covers pregnancy and other services that I will never need. So if you had a plan that you liked.....screw you (in the generic sense)....it is canceled and you get to pay MORE to cover other people.
The fact that the insurance can't charge more for people who will be using more and you might be someone who would benefit from a catastrophic or minimal coverage plan......screw you....pay more to cover those sick people who will be sucking up all the money and benefits.
Anyone who thought that those two facts would not create chaos and increase premiums for the majority of the population....just wasn't using their brains (if they had any brains to begin with)
The only thing that will save us from total bankruptcy as a nation and stop this economic disaster is to completely repeal the entire Obamacare fiasco. Just delaying the individual mandate will only make it worse since the insurance companies will still be dropping people like dead flies because they are NOT allowed to offer the other plans...that people liked. Companies will still be laying people off and scaling back, because no one knows what the future holds.
I....Told....You.....So.
Freeman Hunt said...
Who's paying for the subsidies? My insurance is supposed to go up $400 a month for the same coverage, and I will not receive a subsidy, so I guess that means I'm paying for someone else's.
I don't think your premium increase pays anyone else's direct subsidy, because I don't think there is any mechanism in the law that take that extra that you paid the insurance company and returns it to the government to be given out as a direct subsidy. Those subsidies are paid for either out of the general budget, or maybe the mandate penalty, or something like that.
Your premium increase does go toward the hidden subsidy that keeps older insurance purchasers ( a.k.a. likely voters ) from having to purchase insurance at the higher rates they should based on actuarial tables.
No I believe Freeman is youngish so she is being over-charged [from an age oriented actuarial schedule] while older folks and unhealthy folks are being charged less. Plus you can throw in the mandated extras as described by DBQ to account for the total of the increases in Freeman's premium.
So in effect, Freeman is paying a subsidy to her insurance which the insurance company applies to reduced premiums for older and /or unhealthly folks.
Another annoyance: having to pay for substance abuse treatment coverage. If I used substances in moderation, I might buy that because, hey, sometimes people fall out of moderation and end up in very bad places. But in a house of total abstainers? Might as well light my money on fire.
"But in a house of total abstainers? Might as well light my money on fire."
It's enough to drive you to drinking, so yea, it makes sense, but I have to pay for pregnancy coverage, and I don't even know how you catch it, but I think I'm immune anyway, because I get the flu shot.
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