Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Trump questions Merkel's actions; US influx of refugees


"He said: “Frankly, look, Europe is going to have to handle — but they’re going to have riots in Germany [due to the influx of Syrian refugees invited by Chancellor Merkel]. What’s happening in Germany, I always thought Merkel was like this great leader. What she’s done in Germany is insane. It is insane. They’re having all sorts of attacks.”


Mr Trump was talking about the decision to throw open Germany’s doors to Syrian migrants taken by Frau Merkel in August, which Breitbart London previously reported. The ‘open doors’ policy is an idea for which she has come under attack, even from those within her own political ranks.


“What they should do is get all the countries together, including the Gulf States, which have nothing but money. They should all get together and they should take a big swath of land in Syria.


“They should do a safe zone for people where they could live. And then ultimately go back to their country, go back to where they came from.”


Mr Trump was asked how many migrants he would take into the U.S. were he in charge. He replied: “10,000, I’m not thrilled, but maybe. 200,000 people? This could be the greatest Trojan Horse. This could make the Trojan horse look like peanuts if these people turned out to be a lot of ISIS.”


He commented on the fact that most of the migrants are young men:


“…I have been watching this migration. And I see the people. I mean, they’re men. They’re mostly men, and they’re strong men. These are physically young, strong men. They look like prime-time soldiers.


“Now, it’s probably not true, but where are the women? You see some women. You see some children. But for the most part, I’m looking at these strong men. So, you ask two things. Number one, why aren’t they fighting for their country? And, number two, I don’t want these people coming over here.


“And even on a humanitarian — when I was first asked this question — you asked it to me a long time ago — when they were talking about 3,000 people, I begrudgingly would say, oh, maybe, I don’t know. Maybe.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/12/trump-merkel-insane-predicts-german-riots-says-migrants-look-like-prime-time-soldiers/

15 comments:

ricpic said...

Merkel is a post-nationalist. These people WANT the dissolution of their own nations. Don't let her calm demeanor fool you, Merkel is as malevolent as Obama.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

All of the wealthy Arab oil nations need to step up. They won't. They don't want anyone upsetting their party-all-night lifestyle.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I was listening to some guy talk about his trip to the ME - I think it was Kuwait. He explained that No one is around during the day, but at night all the expensive automobiles slip out and the men all bar-hop the night away.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

All the Teslas, Mercedes, BMW, Rolls-Royce, etc.. troll around for sex and a good time. You know - it's all approved by Allah.

Leland said...

I think Trump is reasonable about the numbers. Helping refugees is one thing. A small town is about 3,000 to 10,000 people, and like any place, that amount of people won't be hemogenous. Some will oppose what they are fleeing, some will just want to CYA, and others are just following the crowd but their sympathy really is for what they are fleeing. If that latter is just 2%, which is fairly common in any population, then that's 200 people of the 10,000 or 4,000 people of the 200,000.

That 2% is going to be trouble. And if only 2% of them will find arms and take up the battle were they took refuge, then is still 4 to 80 fighters. Look at how many people the 2 Tsarnev brothers harmed. We can absorb that amount of harm, but multiply that by 40 and we have an epidemic.

That's ignoring the other issue like feeding, clothing, and housing a small town that essentially have nothing. Detroit has 600,000 people, and they can't afford to provide services for themselves, and they already have food, clothing, and housing as well industry to produce things to sell.

edutcher said...

Like it or not, The Donald gets it, although I'd be leery of that 10,000.

Hell, I'd be leery of letting in 10.

Let 'em straighten out their own countries.

deborah said...

Good thoughts on the numbers, Leland. On the other hand, as such a huge nation, area and population, we can 'absorb' these incidents, like an elephant being shot with a bee bee gun, without creating national security damage. On the other other hand, we have so royally FUBARed the Middle East it is mind-blowing. That we should take in so few refugees is quite funny. We are just so blatantly full of ourselves, it is to laugh. Just NIMBY, ya' know. Wink.

deborah said...

Ricpic, I'm a negative person, so I see post-nationalism as pretty much the down-hill slope of Western Civ. Merkel knows the white population of Germany/Europe is declining, they need warm bodies to do the work, keep up the numbers. As we say here, come and take it. If there are not enough white Europeans to hold on to the land...

Who recently said (here?) the world falls to those who show up. AReasoableMan once posted an interesting chart showing that the US population was declining and we actually need the Mexicans to prop up our tax base, or some such. I will look for it.

And at the bottom of the down-hill slope? A lot of slugging it out. The natural state of Man is war, and when you don't have anything to fight for, or don't have any fight in you, you are displaced. Much worse would be a placid, flat new world order planet with all beings equal in their safety and boredom.

edutcher said...

deborah said...

AReasoableMan once posted an interesting chart showing that the US population was declining and we actually need the Mexicans to prop up our tax base, or some such.

Last I looked, only the Lefties and those who support them were shrinking in numbers.

Conservatives (at least half the country) seem to be having kids aplenty (a little surprising in my little corner of the world how many families with 3 - 5 kids).

And the only reason to prop up the tax base is all the entitlements, which is all that keeps the Democrats going.

PS Note the rise of rightist movements in a great many Christian Democrat or Social Democrat countries, much as here.

Something's happening. The Euros were used to the Americans protecting them and then thought they didn't need them. Now it looks like some are starting to wake up.

PPS You, a negative person?

Tell it not in Christendom.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Deborah:

How about we take the hundreds of billions we spend on illegals and give it instead as a substantial financial $$$ incentive to young American legal couples to have more kids? That might work.

edutcher said...

It used to be called welfare. Make marriage a requirement and you just might have something.

Der Fuhrer gave an actual military decoration, der Mutterkreuz, to any woman who had 6 or more kids.

Leland said...

200,000 is 1% of the population of Syria in 2014. That's the same number of people estimated to have died during the war.

The US rate of death is just over 8 per 1,000 people in 2015, which is slightly less than 1%. The US birth rate is just shy of 12.5 per 1,000 people in 2015.

FYI, Syrian death rate is 4/1000 in 2015, birth rate 22/1000 in 2015.

So other than the war, Syrian's are dying at half the rate of Americans and creating more children at nearly 3 times the rate as Americans. Maybe we should just fund a Syrian Planned Parenthood rather than providing them refuge. I should also note that Syria has stricter gun laws than the US, so I'm sure that will end the violence very soon.

deborah said...

"PPS You, a negative person?

Tell it not in Christendom."

lol you make me laugh.


AJ, I think Ed has the right idea; married conservatives will have more kids, in general. I saw an interesting vid many years ago where the man said the solution to unmarried women having kids was to absolutely cut off all government support for the children, which would disincentivize the women who do it for the cash. But of course that won't happen.

To answer your question, though, I don't think it would work. I think most women have an idea how many kids they want before marriage. Though I wanted two, I briefly agonized over a third, decided to keep it at two. A friend went in knowing she wanted four. She had three, agonized over stopping, then went on to have the fourth. Of course ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN lol.

deborah said...

Leland, let's both write our congress peep to get the ball rolling.

Leland said...

I don't need to write my Congressman. He gets it.

Apparently, what I need to do is disabuse people of false premises such as "AReasoableMan once posted an interesting chart showing that the US population was declining". ARM frequently posts stupid things. And a simple search of Bing for "US Birth Rate" and "US Death Rate" provides the answers without having to click and read through anything. I will note it takes a passing knowledge of pre-Algebra to understand that if the Birth Rate is higher than the Death Rate, then the population is increasing domestically.

But hey, I can reach everyone. If you want to believe a chart because somebody with a false moniker posts it on the Internet, then don't come crying to me when you are poor and homeless.