Instead, at 21, he found himself out of school, living with his parents, and "stuck" working as a manager at a fast food restaurant scraping to make hand-to-mouth.
Launching into adulthood has been tricky, he said.
"It became too difficult financially to be in school and not working," says Kaylor, who dropped out of Lincoln Christian University, in Illinois, after one semester because of a money crunch. "And without schooling, you can't get a job that you can survive on, so I had to move back home," he said.
In another similar article, via Drudge:
Census: More Americans 18-to-34 Now Live With Parents Than With Spouse
Four decades ago, in the mid-1970s, young American adults--in the 18-to-34 age bracket--were far more likely to be married and living with a spouse than living in their parents’ home.
“There are now more young people living with their parents than in any other arrangement,” says the Census Bureau study.
“What is more,” says the study, “almost 9 in 10 young people who were living in their parents’ home a year ago are still living there today, making it the most stable living arrangement.”
The Number 1 living arrangement today for Americans in the 18-to-34 age bracket, according to the Census Bureau, is to reside without a spouse in their parents’ home.
That is where you can now find 22.9 million 18-to-34 year olds—compared to the 19.9 million who are married and live with their spouse.
What could held responsible for this?
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I blame President Pissy.
FWIW Briebart has a story on rising death rates of young white Americans.
They blame drugs.
nd to follow.
I'll bet that historically the dominant pattern for young adults has been....daughter marries but continues to live (with husband/son-in-law) in part of her parents' house (upstairs, basement), or if in a rural area, in separate house on her parents' property.
The govt policies that led to ridiculously expensive costs of college and easy loans are one of the biggest causes. To identify the culprits you need to track down the policy wonks who designed the govt policies.
Government is to blame here. They have created an unsustainable financial environment by using the student loan program as graft to leftist universities that support them. Government guarantees the loans, universities see free money and raise tuition and on and on it goes. Then throw on top radical marxist progressive collectivist SJW policies that universities inculcate into the student body and you have a war that these institutions are winning for the hearts and wallets of our young and they are the losers in all of it and we are the beneficiaries of that loss.
edutcher is a Big Government errand boy. He was a member of the Big Govt. Gestapo, the IRS. He simply wants the Big Govt. to enact his agenda of control. He is a little, friendless, unintelligent, unhappy, man who gets fucked in the ass by his dominatrix wife. Now that he can't get an erection auditing waitresses for not declaring all their cash tips, we have to suffer his inane, vapid comments incessantly. He crossed the line yesterday and there will be blood.
I take it nd is another of Ritmo's aliases.
I agree with AJ. It's the student loan/cost spiral. To add insult to injury, students are indoctrinated leftwards.
"What could held responsible for this?"
1. Houses are bigger, families are smaller. There's room at the inn.
2. There's more to do if you're staying in your room at Mom's. Internet, computer games, Cartoon Network, Lem's Levity. What would we be doing to relieve the boredom if we were 21 if not for the net? Soap Operas?
3. A lot more young adults are in college now than in 1975. A lot more, and - pay attention here > college students living in a dorm are counted by the census as living at home with parents.
4. Decent paying jobs in manufacturing for non-college young adults that allowed you to be self-supporting are few and far between. Unless you're in China or Vietnam or Mexico.
5. A variety of social factors such as the fact that a lot of 20 somethings are lazy, spoiled brats and their parents aren't much better. I'm not sure how much this one has changed over the years. I got kicked out of the house after I dropped out of college* so I don't really have a good point of reference.
*Some people claim there's a woman to blame, but I know, it's my own damn fault.
This is sort of a return to the norm. Back in the day family stayed together. As ricpic said a daughter would stay with her husband with grandpa and grandma. We are getting back to the extended family staying together. For economic reasons for sure. But still it could be a positive development.
AJ and Meth have it figured out.
Most Saturdays during the warmer season months, I meet my 2 lefty pals at the Farmer's Market and we sit and have lunch together. We know we do not agree on politics, so we avoid political landmines and converse about lighter things. Occasionally, we do drift into touchy topics. I'm in the minority, so I usually do the listening. (omg - no way) I mouth off on-line to vent, but I'm a pretty patient listener. Besides, it solidifies what I already know about their political group-think. Anyway - one topic we do agree on is this-- there are way too many people on the planet.
If these millennials had a clue, they would learn a skilled trade. There are all sorts of jobs available in the building trade. Yes, they will need to learn the trade first.
Expensive leftwing colleges and law schools are not the way to go if you want a sure thing.
Not everyone can be a high paid lawyer, a computer video game guru, or a rap star.
The building trade is a sure thing. Our booming population guarantees job security in the trades. However, you cannot be a wuss.
There is the problem. Too many wusses.
edutcher, You're a pussy whipped, cowardly, stupid, asshole. My profile in on blogger for all to read. You want my address, I'll give it to you. Your profile is zero, like your IQ. You are a little, control freak w/ no imagination and even less intellect. The smart move would for you to not ever mention me, because I will destroy you if you keep fucking w/ me, you cunt. Blogs are your entire life and I will eviscerate you if you keep it up. You couldn't shine Ritmo's shoes, Gestapo man.
Pajama boy will not be your HVAC guy or your low-voltage expert. But, he can cup his hands around a warm mug like a champion. *footies rock*
And levity caught the last train for the coast.
Come on, people, don't all be like Sixty!
It's tough because real life doesn't advertise. You have to imagine it and go find it. It takes work to fall into the spot you envision.
I just mentioned a piece on Breitbart and knew nd would have a rebuttal.
All the uncalled-for invective is out of the Ritmo style book.
Trooper York said...
This is sort of a return to the norm. Back in the day family stayed together. As ricpic said a daughter would stay with her husband with grandpa and grandma. We are getting back to the extended family staying together. For economic reasons for sure. But still it could be a positive development.
OK, two points.
First, the family farm usually went to the oldest boy and the rest moved out and found their own place (I'm thinking back when families were 5 or more (often a lot more) kids and everybody staying home wasn't feasible) Families with 1, 2, 3, or 4 kids were about 10% each, while families with 5 or 6 were about 20% with the remainder 7+ about 40%.
Second, let's not forget the snowflake factor. All those delicate egos that need safe spaces and trigger warnings. These kids, if one piece I saw is right, are too wrapped up in computer games to have sex.
Actually ed- you're an annoying little mosquito and you obsess over the wrong people. When someone tells you to fuck off, you should do so.
nd never fails to go after me any time the subject is cannabis, so I figure he can take a little of the same, which is what he got.
You don't like it, that's your problem, as is his.
Me, I keep my cool, state my rebuttal, and go on my merry way.
It's astounding how many snowflakes we have in our own midst.
Sounds like another of those antifa types who thinks they have the right to determine who's allowed free speech and who isn't.
Pepsi's all around!!!
A brand new fancy coffee shop opened up down the street. This morning I passed by. They have a long communal table. About twenty millennials were sitting there. Sipping coffee. Working on their laptops. Not talking. Not interacting. Not socializing.
That is the problem with millennials.
They have no social skills.
Kyle Kaylor = Kato Kaelin.
It all started to go south with the actions of this man abducting and killing the first milk carton little boy Etan Patz – boy on the milk carton – gets justice: Man convicted in 1979 murder.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/02/14/nyc-jury-reaches-verdict-etan-patz-murder-case/97894676/
Something happened with the raising of children after that and now we're living with the consequences
If Lem's right, then we better start blaming the teacher unions.
Start with disbanding the DOE.
Colleges and universities are a shameless rip off. Like TV televangelists we're all supposed to despise - they do the exact same thing, with the exact same level of sanctimony. Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker were pikers compared to this band of thieves and their disgusting religious theme parks (with all the best amenities). They overcharge because they're overvalued - with government approval and subsidization (due to the brainwashing courses). A good technical college or basic trade school is a much better launching pad for people who are coming from little or no money. That's another thing: People do not save for college any more because it's just too daunting. First off, people don't save for their offspring as much anymore anyway and plus there's no point since there's nothing they can afford to save for.
The following is too long, don't read....
So I'm living the dream. I have twin 25 yr old daughters living at home. A couple of things:
1. Houses are bigger, families are smaller. There's room at the inn.
Yes
daughter marries but continues to live (with husband/son-in-law) in part of her parents' house
Maybe, one is engaged, and the couple live upstairs; I must admit enjoying the extra hand on getting certain things fixed. He's certainly not a Pajama Boy.
2. There's more to do if you're staying in your room at Mom's.
Yes, but there's a bit more to this in a moment...
The govt policies that led to ridiculously expensive costs of college and easy loans are one of the biggest causes.
Well, we put the girls through school, so no loans, no student debt (other than the wife's when she put herself through school). Still, one daughter was smart enough to take accounting, which is a career that can be learned as a trade without college. The other studied Criminal Justice, which if not followed up with law school (and that's dubious), is a career better learned as a trade. Why these majors? Because despite college being ridiculously expensive; if someone else pays for it uncritically (as we and the government did), then nobody is paying attention to studying a major that results in equally ridiculously pay. My wife studied to be a nurse, because it pays. I studied engineering because I was to lazy to learn a trade.
I blame President Pissy.
If you stayed with me; Ed is very much correct. Not mentioned by others is insurance. By living at home, my daughters can be covered under my car insurance and health insurance thanks to President Obama. He changed the law (either by regulation pen and paper or actual law, but I think latter because it was early on when Dems held Congress) that stretched rules that said children could be covered if living at home but going to college and still dependent up to age 26. Pissy simply removed the criteria for being in school. So the kids stay at home to stay under the insurance. It saves them money and us money, so why not.
As Troop notes, there are some positives, but those positives are really to the parents. My kids aren't having to learn how to make ends meet. They are pretty good at working hard and late to get the job done, but I think that's because they were jocks as teenagers. Most of their childhood friends still living at home are quick to give up when facing adversity, and the parents stay the safety net. When you don't have a safety net, you learn it sucks to fail, and so will learn quickly not to fail.
It's hard to transition into adulthood when there's no point in doing so. Everything these kids have heard about responsibility and success tells them it's not worth it.
Tune in. Turn on. Drop out.
is now
Give up. Go home. Sleep in.
Many leftists are finding it hard to transition to President Trump
It's time to invest in diapers: They're transitioning into their second childhoods.
Explains why "trans" people are the current vogue.
There are plenty of jobs if you are willing to 1) work hard, 2) offer skill people need. It could be a skilled trade, it could be a college based job in something that is worth something to someone else. But just assuming you are owed a salary without providing something worthwhile in return is divorced from reality.
ND and Ed fighting? My world is collapsing. That means April and I need to go out on a date. :D
I couldn't find my wallet right off inside the 3 pocket backpack. I had just used it minutes previously and now I am getting a cheeseburger with tomato and jalapeño and Burger Fi sauce, I said, "Man, that wallet had better be in this backpack."
The young high energy woman behind the counter said, "I see you in here all the time. I'll give you my employee comp."
Right then I found my wallet. But how sweet. The clerk was going to buy me a cheeseburger and drink.
The whole downtown is lousy with silent stealthy somewhat hippyish pot smoker types. My block on Broadway is packed with marijuana industry related vans. Big ones. It's big business. There are some fifteen different commercial vans parked in a row on the street and the whole block is packed with people in line standing in the rain to enter a convention.
There is music playing in the opposite direction.
And all this in light rain. Slightly cold.
So after my cheeseburger with tomato and jalapeño I sauntered over to the bottle shop on the other side of the apartment building for a 12-pack of Cokes. While inside, a portion of the street crowd poured inside the shop all at once and filled the whole space now teeming with meandering new generation of pot smokers. The people generally are not fashionable. Unfashionable. Antifashionable. Mostly young. Yet still well behaved and rather nice besides.
Before this in front of my building I was admiring the gentleness of the gathering crowd when a woman who works here poked out her head and said,
"No loitering!"
The whole crowd of gathered men quietly shuffled off without a word and disappeared one direction or another into the sidewalk crowd. One guyhad a quadcopter ready to fly over the growing crowd. He was a tall young lanky lad, I'd say 6.5 thereabout and he never said a word and as he walked away I could see then he was wearing outrageously large size 18D shoes.
And i'm like,"Holy shit, how does he walk on those things without tearing up everything underfoot?" They were like two whitish bulldozers scrubbing back and forth down there.
But they all just quietly walked off without any fuss like, shrug, thud, "Scared a you."
So on the way out of the bottle shop with the 12 pack of cokes in the backpack, a young blond wet rainy-haired woman quickly hustled ahead of me measured just so to hold open the door for me even though she was not exiting herself and that did take her well away from her friends and her own business inside. Then she hustled ahead of me and held open the second door onto the stream of street side pot smoker silent revelers.
Nobody actually smoked anything. Apparently that's done elsewhere. Maybe nearby Civic Park. I don't know. There are a LOT of people walking by.
And this caused me to realize: this 420 celebration is only the beginning of something that will become much larger, I think in surprisingly short time this will be national. It's already grown considerably right here, right before my own eyes over the few previous years. It might even become a new holiday.
Chip: You mean like a Dope St. Patrick's Day? I actually forgot it was 4/20 today, but it is more of an abstraction to me anyway. You had it happen around you.
On the topic of millenials adjusting, Aaron Hernandez left a suicide note to his GAY JAILHOUSE LOVER! Titus weeps.
What Nick?
NOOOO
I would of committed a crime to be his jailhouse lover.
You already murdered the English language, you old queen, too bad you can't do time for that.
Speaking of the lubricious, do you have any recommends for types of tung oil?
Titus, I said on another thread I thought you had picked Hernandez out as gay a while back? My brother used to work @ a restaurant on Arlington St. where many athletes go to eat. Both he and a gay Dominican bus boy thought Brady to be gay. This was early in his career, before he married that dish.
Well! It's now being reported Hernandez killed Odin Lloyd to keep his homosexuality secret. He was convicted for killing Lloyd. Juicy stuff.
Hernandez should have just moved to the Packers. Just sayin'
Talking sports doesn't make you hetero. It's overcompensating.
CL - I have been using Waterlox Original Finish for a couple of years now, and I like it a lot, especially on black walnut. It is a tung oil based product and it is very simple to work with and dries reasonably quickly.
Drawbacks - it is expensive and even if the can is sealed there is a sufficient amount of oxygen in the can to make it go bad.
Solutions for that issue include - diluting it with some other oil-based finish, which changes the nature of the original product and fills the can, but I don't do that, using a nitrogen product to displace the air, another method I skip, or using something like marbles to raise level of finish in the can, thereby minimizing the amount of air that the product is in contact with.
I used to use things like marbles or rounded stones sold for fish tanks, but being cheap I decided to use washed gravel, and that works great. My latest can made it through the winter just fine. The fake out comes when you pick up the can - it is way heavy. Rocks are denser than oil - who knew?
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