See what I did there?
Who was, a very short time ago, "the most hated man in America"?... From Wikipedia...
Martin Shkreli is an American entrepreneur and pharmaceutical executive. He is co-founder of the hedge fund MSMB Capital Management, co-founder and former chief executive officer (CEO) of the biotechnology firm Retrophin, and founder and former CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals. In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price by 5,556 percent (from US$13.5 to US$750 per tablet) leading him to be referred to by media as the "most hated man in America".A look back...
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I will resume watching - Noted he starts off by saying he's not partisan. Then he says he has given more money to democrats. (ok) Then you'll see the Bernie sticker in the back.
lolz.
back to the vid. #$%@
(what makes a person partisan is if they give to Republicans) (If you give to democrats, you're non-partisan. )
You know this Hillary-is-ill thing could go too far and turn into Hillary-is-our-first- disabled President. After old whatsisname, Roosevelt. Yeah, that guy. Drop in faux knowledgeable allusions to Roosevelt was brilliant, just like Hillary, and presto, dead cat is back in the fight. Just saying. Let's not.
I think you could still function with polio... don't know if Parkinson would be much more taxing on her bodies resources.
The Blonde's eldest brother has Parkinson's and he's going downhill at a horrific rate, not even recognizing his sister most of the time.
For those interested, the Parkinson's foundation website also lists non-motor symptoms, which include dementia.
If this guy is right, April and nd are willing to support a mental defective for President to spite Donald Trump.
Amartel said...
You know this Hillary-is-ill thing could go too far and turn into Hillary-is-our-first- disabled President. After old whatsisname, Roosevelt.
You forget Washington and his wooden teeth (Martha kept complaining about the splinters in her thighs) and Grover Cleveland who had cancer.
what will ed do? He adores Hillary. ed- you should send hillary some money.
Amartel - exact. Even if the truth comes out -her media will spin in positively for her.
I'm hopeful Beelzebub is pining to take her home.
I lost a good friend to Parkinson's, it's a bad way to go.
But doing a remote DDX I have to disagree. I see no tremors, Parkinson's patients end up speaking in a whisper, and none of other major symptoms listed there are apparent.
I am going to stick with brain damage due to a stroke, caused by a fall, which resulted from intoxication, and continue down that line - she probably has impaired liver function, a fatty liver, a need to drink to avoid the DTs, a lung or throat issue due to a life time of over imbibing, and is starting to suffer from seizures due to shrinkage of her brain.
Symptoms of cirrhosis: Fatigue, yellowing of the skin (jaundice), itching, swelling from fluid buildup in the legs (edema), bruising easily and having heavy nosebleeds, redness of the palms, small red spots and tiny lines on the skin called spider angiomas, frequent infections, confusion.
Cirrhosis are red, ci-violets are blue...
Arrrggh! The crool, imaginative, but crool.
AprilApple said...
Amartel - exact. Even if the truth comes out -her media will spin in positively for her.
How does one positively spin dementia?
They will make the violins weep for her as if she were Dolly Madison, but nobody in their right mind will vote for her.
Except...
ed - Do you have proof she has dementia?
The discussion here is Parkinsons.
Her media (the media) will spin anything for her.
So Ed doesn't believe in media bias. No wonder your Trump delusion has reached critical mass. Step away from the Drudge-Surber-Hoft and take a bath.
Except... Except Democrats, ed. Democrats will dutifully vote for her. Or are you so delusional that you now think the US doesn't have any democrats?
In Ed world - No democrats / No democrat media bias. Sky is purple.
Polio survivors have a higher percentage of borderline personality disorder and psychosis.
Ironically polio patients rarely get Alzheimer's, because the gene that may protect one from getting polio may have a roll in triggering Alzheimer's.
Remote DDX on the cow - brucellosis.
April, are you really arguing for defeating Hillary. Or are you trying to stealth promote Hillary by tearing down Trump?
I have my disagreements with ed, God bless him he has the One True Ted living rent free in his head, but I don't doubt where he stands. Nick gives jaundiced somewhat standoffish advice about where this race is going (like I do) but I know both Nick and I really want Crooked Hillary to lose.
I honestly cannot tell where you are coming from. You give lip service to wanting Hillary to lose and then spend 90% of the time saying Trump is an idiot and we will lose.
If you really believe that, you might as well drink brandy old fashions all day. I like Trump gave his economic speech today. I hope for more of the same. You gave a short comment saying you liked it. Why not spend a day praising Trump for that, rather than tearing him down. You would not parent a kid like that, would you?
Sixty, I stay away from late night tumbles with the bison. No brucellosis for me!
AprilApple said...
ed - Do you have proof she has dementia?
The discussion here is Parkinsons
If you look at the Parkinson's website, nitwit, you'll find one of the non-motor symptoms is dementia.
Do you have proof she doesn't?
Except... Except Democrats, ed. Democrats will dutifully vote for her. Or are you so delusional that you now think the US doesn't have any democrats?
No, a lot of them are looking at Jill Stein, just the way they did in '00 with Ralph Nader. The BlackLives crowd is talking about staying home.
The Reagan Democrats will go for Trump.
That's why the cacophony of phony stories on CNN and MSLSD, it's why all the skewed polls.
She's in that much trouble.
In Ed world - No democrats / No democrat media bias. Sky is purple.
Sounds more like April. Of course, she doesn't believe it because she wants Trump to lose at all costs. She can trust Puffington and MSLSD and the Gray Lady and Hugh Hewitt.
Yeah, dat's da ticket.
This guy is talking out of his ass. I spent day in and day out w/ a good friend w/ Parkinson's. I gave the eulogy @ his funeral. Parkinson's isn't seizures, it's tremors. And, w/ some people the Parkinson's manifests itself more w/ dementia than w/ tremors. My buddy started w/ slight tremors, then muscle rigidity, then dementia including paranoia.
His dementia was akin to Alzheimer's the last couple years of his life, progressively worse each month.
Sixty gave a diagnosis on the earlier thread of possible diseases, and the use of Valium. I agree w/ his assessment.
ND - the guy in the video agrees with you - he said it wasn't seizures.
He should hire someone to kick his ass - he is in an open loop oscillation and he needs feedback.
He clearly says " it's not a seizure." ..."It's involuntary movement."
nd, you can have Parkinson's in conjunction with other diseases. The bl;onde's brother also has Marfan's.
FWIW, The Blonde thinks it's a tumor. My point was that, if part of what she has is Parkinson's, you've got a world of wonderful symptoms for the PUS to have, dementia being one of them. That would, I think, all those times Huma said she was "confused"
AprilApple said...
Trump is an idiot who will likely lose. Yes. Again. I have no idea why that is so confusing.
Lessee, he's got an MBA from Wharton and built a multi-billion dollar empire on his own. Yeah, idiots do that all the time.
Sure, that's why so many Lefties are saying he can win, up to and including Van Jones.
Hey, but who needs to listen? April is so sure she's already got the party for Hillary ready.
ed, the danger of pretending Trump is actually winning is you get a false sense of security. Isn't it better to err on being cautious (on outcomes) than overly confident? That does not mean Trump should be overly cautious in attacking or his own mojo, he should relentlessly attack Hillary.
And April, why bother telling us yet again we are all doomed for the 1000th time. We got it, thank for your opinion. What's your point? To depress us so we all stay home? As much as I may disagree with ed pretending everything is great and dragging up his "One True Ted" obsession, your pessimism wears thin. Seriously, if you really want Hillary to lose, this is not the way to do it.
The truth lies in the middle. Trump can win, it is not as bad as the media (or April) make out, but there is more work to do. Primarily, Trump has to keep the fight focused on Hillary Clinton. Right up till November.
All need to remember this about Hillary. The only time people like Hillary is when she's a victim. Her best polling was when Bubba was fucking interns and people felt sorry for her.
Janet Reno died from Parkinson's. Can you contract it munching carpet?
I don't have a positive drop in me, Evi. Sorry. We screwed the pooch and we let the DNC-media lead us by the nose. (not me - idiots like ed.)
I'll take another break because honestly, I have nothing but negativity with regard to ed and his gold plated weirdo god.
that's just it, ND - people see and hear Trump and they feel sorry for her.
*ducks*
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...
ed, the danger of pretending Trump is actually winning is you get a false sense of security. Isn't it better to err on being cautious (on outcomes) than overly confident?
You look at the facts and you make your judgments.
Between now and election day, I expect the Demos to pull every dirty trick they can think of. So where am I overly confident? To say at this point in a campaign, using the Lefties' own polls, he's dead even is pretty good, when you look at the history. Usually, the R is way back at this point, so I say he's doing pretty well.
Do I wish he were 20 points ahead? Sure, but do you think the Lefties would admit that? Either you believe the Lefties are lying to us or you don't. April only believes what she wants to. I believe they're lying. We have solid evidence many of these pollsters are using an 8 point skew and you try to figure what the truth is. We all know the polls are rigged, so you take it into consideration.
But here's a fact, a week after Hillary's dead cat bounce and the Khan game, the polls - the ones out the last few days, not a week or more old - say it's back to dead even. You were so horribly panicked, but, after that "terrible" week, the race is a long way from over.
I expect more bad "news" from the Lefty media, but I also intend to try to find what the real facts are, not just take the Lefties' word for it.
You can be a Whig and clutch your pearls, I intend to stay calm.
ndspinelli said...
All need to remember this about Hillary. The only time people like Hillary is when she's a victim. Her best polling was when Bubba was fucking interns and people felt sorry for her.
Yeah, but this is different. She, or her backers, are screwing us.
If anybody's screwing her, it's the people pushing a poor, demented, old woman.
And I doubt few people want that for a President.
PS April, what you said is so idiotic, it doesn't merit any violence.
Laughter, but no violence.
The Washington Post just about swears on a bible that Hillary Clinton is fine.
Link.
Positive ot: I was in Crested Butte last week and I saw a young guy with a Reagan-Bush 2016 t-shirt on.
ed: "You can be a Whig and clutch your pearls, I intend to stay calm."
If you think I am a Whig, you are delusional. My advice and commentary has hardly been panicked, but rather wishing Trump would take the battle to the witch he is running against (which he seems to be doing). More please.
I absolutely agree with you the media has not yet begun to pull dirty tricks and biased reporting.
As for April, have fun over at TOP. I hear Meade is a big Hillary fan too. You answered my question.
Evi - It is possible for people to dislike both candidates.
Janet Reno is still alive. If she wasn't shaking so hard they would've put a stake through her too sizes too small heart years ago.
Lem said...
The Washington Post just about swears on a bible that Hillary Clinton is fine.
OK, now, how much do you believe the WaPo?
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...
If you think I am a Whig, you are delusional. My advice and commentary has hardly been panicked, but rather wishing Trump would take the battle to the witch he is running against (which he seems to be doing). More please.
Last I looked, he has been. He also unveiled a detailed econmic plan, which is the sort of thing "everyone" said he needed to do.
i often wonder what he must do to please some people.
Well, I did sent a tweet to the WAPO writer saying the Clintons were going to make him look very bad. He will not be the first nor the last.
Evi,
Both Hillary and Trump are disliked. Trump supporters insist it isn't true. Trump is secretly much more popular than conventional wisdom permits. The polls are all lies.
I speak to actual humans outside of this blog and none of them like either candidate. None of them. I find it unusual, but it is the reality of this election. I think it's downright sad, pathetic and nuts that we selected the worst possible most disliked candidate to face her. His negatives are higher than hers! but I better not point that out, or you'll think I want Hillary to win. or something.
April,
I find there is a reserve of Trump support that is out there. Hidden. Troop and ed are right about that. How big that is remains to be seen. I doubt it is YUGE, but it is definitely a few points at least.
Is Trump getting 10% of blacks? I doubt it, not based solely on the LA Times poll ed is relying on, but Trump could get 10% of blacks if he tried. I bet he could do even better than that. I encourage him to do so.
As for Latinos, Trump is doing as least as good as Romney. That tells you Hillary is not at all popular with Latinos (and Trump is not quite as hated as little Jorge Ramos would lead you to believe). Again, I see an opportunity for Trump to beat expectations there too.
And ed, unlike you, I do maintain a blog. It has been hammering Hillary for ever and mostly positive posts for Trump (certainly since he clinched). You know that, you go there.
Hidden Trump support? (*tying not to giggle out of respect*)
Sorry Evi - we can agree to disagree. There is no hidden Trump support. He hath peaked.
Why Marco Rubio would have crushed Hillary Clinton
oh well.
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...
Is Trump getting 10% of blacks? I doubt it, not based solely on the LA Times poll ed is relying on, but Trump could get 10% of blacks if he tried. I bet he could do even better than that. I encourage him to do so.
I do recall we discussed here one poll that said he was doing as well as Nixon - 26% support.
We don't really know because the polls are crooked (if you tell me they're honest, I'm going to be very disappointed in you). I'll tell you this, and it's an article of faith in american politics, if the Rs get 5% of the black vote, the Demos lose.
We do know Bernie took the black vote in MI when he won the state from Hillary, so the black vote is angry this year. BlackLives is talking about staying home, so figure it out for yourself.
As for Latinos, Trump is doing as least as good as Romney. That tells you Hillary is not at all popular with Latinos (and Trump is not quite as hated as little Jorge Ramos would lead you to believe). Again, I see an opportunity for Trump to beat expectations there too.
This hinges on the fact not all Hispanics see the world the same way. They are not monolithic. If he gets any significant Hispanic support and, again, even though he lest the state, Bernie took the Hispanic vote in IL.
AprilApple said...
Sorry Evi - we can agree to disagree. There is no hidden Trump support. He hath peaked.
How many times did we hear that in February and March?
It is to laugh.
Why Marco Rubio would have crushed Hillary Clinton
He couldn't even crush Kasich.
His writing has appeared in The Atlantic, Forbes, The Daily, Le Figaro, Rue89, techPresident, The American Scene and even Fashionista.
Yeah, a real expert on American politics.
and speaking of experts...
AprilApple said...
We all watched Trump treat the GOPe candidates like shit.
Trump deserves to be treated as he treated them. Like shit.
August 8, 2016 at 6:34 PM
In a nutshell.
Ed's delusion will carry Trump to victory!
AprilApple said...
We all watched Trump treat the GOPe candidates like shit.
Trump deserves to be treated as he treated them. Like shit.
Yep. I stand behind that. His supporters act like monkeys flinging poo - at some point the schadenfreude fan starts to spin.
It already has, dear. All your little Whigs have been laid low and made irrelevant.
And I wouldn't admit standing anywhere near it.
No hate. No delusion. Just facts.
Yep - You've burned it all down. In November you'll get your ultimate wish.
I just want to thank you in advance, Ed - for your help giving us Hillary.
ed and troop, Trumpian true believers, the rest of you are Cucks and whigs
Nick and me: Skeptical about Trump, but hopefully he will beat the evil witch of Chappaqua
Chip: skeptical of the rhetorical excesses on both side, let's make a pop up card, talk cartouches and eat.
Lem: Can't we all get along? How about those Red Sox?
April: Ready for Hillary
Well, here's karma, if April needs it. Ty Woods' father ansd Sean Smith's mother sue Hillary for wrongful death and defamation
Swift Boats, here we come.
PS No, dear, you're the one tearing at the nominee, the one you said you supported.
But don't.
But fear not; as I say, Hillary won't make it to the debates.
You know evi - don't act like ed with his BS straw-man arguments. Really - you're better than that.
A vote is just a vote. I don't need to grovel at his feet. I will point out Trump is an undisciplined screw-up and a DNC pimped New York democrat-douche - as needed.
ed - You are a fraud.
Mike Pence could have been #18 in the primary field, and you'd be trashing him too.
April, just admit you like Hillary more than Trump. It is fine, all the "best" Republicans are going there (and that particular one managed to take Jeb for $14 million doing it). Alternatively, if you really hate Hillary as much as you say, hold your nose and go pull the lever for Trump this fall. Figure it this way, if he gets impeached Mike Pence takes over.
And April, ed is not a fraud, if Trump were the Catholic Church ed and Troop would be a Jesuits (back when the Jesuits were the "wolves of the church"). Not in a wimpy Pope Francis sort of way.
ed and Troop, do not mistake my skepticism of Trump's strategy as being a whig, or a NeverTrumper, or One True Ted BS or anything else. I just want Hillary to lose. Trump is it for that effort and it really depends on him to close this deal.
E, nice summation, but you still don't get me. I've been watching these things since I was 8 and I do have a Poli Sci degree. I come at it from a different angle..
PS I didn't trash Christie or Walker or Jeb! (really) or even Little Marco, I was just honest about how anathema he is to the base. You just melted for his big brown eyes.
Cruz, I thought coulda been a contenduh, until I looked at his voting record.
Pence, I am neither hot nor cold even now. I was just surprised he was a better speaker than I would have thought.
I don't hate people the way you do, sweetie, because I don't pick who I like because of their eyes.
Evi - How many times do I have to tell you that I am a reliable R voter?
My vote will amount to jack squat in Nov.
Ed is a fraud. He will trash anyone who dares come between him and his One Tru Trump.
Keep telling yourself that.
For the rest, another onstage blackout.
Tell me if I'm wrong - seriously, but aren't these coming awfully close together?
Looks more like she was startled due to protestors or hecklers. but you keep up the delusion, ed.
You need Hillary to bottom-out in order for Trump to gain ground. Trump should be winning this thing out-right.
Instead, Trump's campaign is collapsing. If he continues to slide in the polls, will he do the right thing and drop out? Never!
AprilApple said...
Looks more like she was startled due to protestors or hecklers. but you keep up the delusion, ed.
A veteran public speaker like her?
You need Hillary to bottom-out in order for Trump to gain ground. Trump should be winning this thing out-right.
Again, we heard that in March and February. You honestly think they would tell you who's winning?
The Lefty media you hate and distrust is just going to admit their girl is losing?
You really buy that? Or are you just so confused between wanting to believe them because they vindicate what you want to happen and saying they can't be trusted? You're in the same Twilight Zone as she is.
Instead, Trump's campaign is collapsing
But he's dead even in the polls again. Even though April has to rely on the Lefty media to keep her spirits up. Or is it down?
My vote will amount to jack squat in Nov.
Yeah, they've getting her just to the point where she starts saying, "Maybe I just stay home this time", because they've sold her the idea nobody can beat the machine.
Too cute.
CNN and the WaPo both telling us there's no problem with her health.
Translation: People are noticing.
It's desperation time with Trump supporters. Hillary, who might very well have health issues, is beating Trump. so Trump supporters are desperate. A missed step is now considered an opportunity. Geez - that's how bad your candidate is.
Ed- Trump is not *even* in the polls. His best poll is negative 3. He is NOT ahead in ONE SINGLE POLL. You got that, Baghdad ed? You god-man is not winning in a single poll.
"The Monmouth poll showing Clinton +13, 50-37 is a *four way* race, with Johnson at 7, Stein 2. I think that's the first 4 way with Clinton @50"
Nate Cohn.
Ignore the polls! Drink the delusion.
This is what collapse looks like folks.
OK.
Some suggestions for Trump that he will not take.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/08/how-trump-could-get-his-groove-back-in-three-simple-steps/
April needs to get her encouragement from the Gray Lady.
I think that speaks for itself.
AprilApple said...
Ed- Trump is not *even* in the polls. His best poll is negative 3. He is NOT ahead in ONE SINGLE POLL. You got that, Baghdad ed? You god-man is not winning in a single poll.
No, his best is negative .4 in a race where most polls start with a skew of 8.
Again, you expect anything else from that crooked, rigged Lefty media you say you hate and distrust? I'd ask if you're really that dense, but you keep proving it.
X, like it or not, April isn't interested in intelligent ideas. She just wants to hate.
AprilApple said...
We all watched Trump treat the GOPe candidates like shit.
Trump deserves to be treated as he treated them. Like shit.
August 8, 2016 at 6:34 PM
Like most drowning souls, she wants to drag everybody down with her. I just try to rebut her nonsense.
You don't like it, I can't help that.
PS You want to talk about something intelligently that has anything to do with the current situation, fire away.
It's true.
I hate that this election is a farce.
polls, odds, bets - people are not blind, ed. The writing is on the wall.
Trump is an asshole too. Likely.
But we only have two choices. Defend shit, or defend shit. Not a comfortable position.
None of us here have any influence on the larger picture.
But that's no reason for us to self destruct, or find personal animus, where at heart we are all on the same page.
I allow my Alzheimer's to think that anyway.
Inside the mammoth poll - which has an A+ rating
Clinton’s 59 point lead among non-white voters is nearly identical to Barack Obama’s 58 point win with this group in 2012 (78% to 20%) according to the National Election Pool’s exit poll. However, Trump’s 5 point lead among white voters is off the 20 point mark Mitt Romney set four years ago (59% to 39%).
The main factor behind the current GOP nominee’s underperformance among white voters is his lack of support among white women with a college degree. Trump holds sizable leads among white men without a college degree (31 points; 56% to 25%), white men with a college degree (11 points; 45% to 34%), and white women without a college degree (17 points; 49% to 32%). These point spreads are similar to how Romney did with these groups in 2012 when he won white men without a college degree by 31 points (64% to 33%), white men with a college degree by 21 points (59% to 38%), and white women without a college degree by 20 points (59% to 39%). Among white women with a college degree, though, Trump is actually trailing Clinton by 30 points (27% to 57%). Romney narrowly won this group by 6 points in 2012 (52% to 46%).
"That’s the whole campaign in two paragraphs. Clinton’s doing what she needs to do to replicate Obama’s winning coalition in 2012 — minorities, women, younger adults — whereas Trump’s not doing what he needs to do to replicate Romney’s losing coalition, let alone building on it to win nationally. He’s winning among white voters overall but far below Romney’s pace thanks in part to that amazing 30-point lead Hillary has among white college-educated women. The hard truth for recent Republican nominees is that they’re largely “niche” candidates, although they’re not often thought of that way because their niche, white voters, is still a majority of the electorate. Trump’s problem is that he’s a niche-within-a-niche candidate, appealing mostly to less-educated whites."
Allahpundit
AprilApple said...
polls, odds, bets - people are not blind, ed. The writing is on the wall.
Really? You spent all week having your brain washed just to come up with what Puffington, AP, CNN, and all the other Lefties were saying all last week.
Well, in that case, why don't you just give it all up? I mean your girl is going to win - if she makes it to November, right?
XRay said...
Trump is an asshole too. Likely.
But we only have two choices. Defend shit, or defend shit. Not a comfortable position.
None of us here have any influence on the larger picture.
But that's no reason for us to self destruct, or find personal animus, where at heart we are all on the same page.
Ah, but we aren't.
Yeah, he does have an ego, but you don't build a multibillion dollar empire without one. And he has done some good in this world, unsolicited, unsung in many cases. And he's raised what seem to be some pretty good kids. So I don't seem him as the equal of Hillary. I see him as a guy who has made a fortune in this country and now he wants to give something back.
That makes him pretty worthwhile in my book
You can take the "What the Hell" view. I don't. Never have.
And I do believe what we say does have an impact. Nobody knows when they say something that really resonates with somebody.
April is interested only in Trump's destruction.
I'm more interested in what happens to the country. Old fashioned, I know, but that's the way I am.
You can take any view you want. I may agree, but I also reserve the right to disagree.
American steel will send new skyscrapers soaring.
We will put new American metal into the spine of this nation.
"It will be American hands that rebuild this country, and it will be American energy – mined from American sources – that powers this country.
It will be American workers who are hired to do the job.
Americanism, not globalism, will be our new credo.
Our country will reach amazing new heights.
All we have to do is stop relying on the tired voices of the past."
This was the ending of Trumps speech today. This is your choice. You can choose the tired voices of the past. You can join in with the globalist Republicans who have betrayed America. You can support Crooked Sick Hillary.
Or you can choose a new direction. You can choose an imperfect vessel who has a multitude of flaws. Who has accomplished a great deal in the private sector. Who did not sell out his country for money. A dochebag for sure with a lot of imperfections. A loudmouth blowhard New Yorker who had a reality show. But someone who has Americas best interest at heart. An American who wants to implement policies that benefit Americans. Period.
Unlike you ed - I don't go to Hoft-Surber-Drudge for brainwashing. I knew from day one that Trump was a fraud and no one had to tell me.
Allah has been bought and paid for all year long.
And an A+ from Ned Silver, the guy who said Trump wouldn't win a single primary?
Holy cabooses, let's just shut this thing down and call it a day, huh?
Tell me, do they use Tide or All when they wash your brain?
Trump is the biggest never Trumper. He never wanted to win.
FiveThirtyEight - ed.
Not that you read anything beyond your small deluded bubble, ed.
ampersand, LOL! I would have bet Janet Reno was dead. How about a dead pool?
in Baghdad ed's world - Hoft-Surber-Drudge.... with a small dose of Breitbart. Nothing else. Keep it small, ed. It's better that way.
Oh, well.
AprilApple said...
Unlike you ed - I don't go to Hoft-Surber-Drudge for brainwashing. I knew from day one that Tirump was a fraud and no one had to tell me.
No, dear, you go to the hardcore Lefties, don't you?
Trump is the biggest never Trumper. He never wanted to win.
Riiight, he spent all that money for a tax writeoff.
FiveThirtyEight - ed.
Not that you read anything beyond your small deluded bubble, ed.
I know they've been wrong all year.
AprilApple said...
We all watched Trump treat the GOPe candidates like shit.
Trump deserves to be treated as he treated them. Like shit.
August 8, 2016 at 6:34 PM
All April wants out of this. Doesn't give a damn about the country or the people.
Hates the Lefties, she says, but will barf up every lie they tell just so she gets her revenge.
"All we have to do is stop relying on the tired voices of the past.
We can’t fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it in the first place.
We can’t solve our problems by relying on the politicians who created them.
Only by changing to new leadership, and new solutions, will we get new results.
We need to stop believing in politicians, and start believing in America.
Before everything great that has ever happened, the doubters have always said it couldn’t be done.
America is ready to prove the doubters wrong.
They want you to think small. I am asking you to think big.
We are ready to dream great things for our country once again.
We are ready to show the world that America is Back – Bigger, and Better and Stronger Than Ever Before."
Don't think small. Don't buy into what the haters spew everyday to protect their rice bowls. You are treated to the drivel of small pinched minds here every daty for comment after comment. Their motives are clear. Their hand are not clean. It is time to move on. It is a binary choice now. It is as simple as that.
One of the best bits of advise for Trump is to stop saying Hillary is "unstable".
Helpful tips from my link above.
She's corrupt. She's a liar. Say so, Trump.
"Resist the temptation to talk about anything else. Attacking gold star families is a bad and counterproductive idea on its own merits, but there’s another reason it should be avoided: It does nothing to reinforce the aforementioned populist message. Additionally, calling Hillary Clinton “mentally unstable” does nothing to advance his cause. Saying Hillary is “unstable” lacks verisimilitude, while saying she’s “an insider who doesn’t tell the truth” actually passes the smell test.
(Note: The point here is not to say that Trump shouldn’t attack Clinton, but to say the attacks should be part of a larger, coherent, message. Both Hillary Clinton and the media would prefer to talk about Trump’s rants and scandals rather than Clinton’s failings. Clinton will continue to set traps, bating Trump to respond to them — rather than stick to his populist message."
Troop is an example of a strong Trump supporter.
Ed is an example of a Trump supporter who makes people want to stay home.
A key reason to vote for Trump is to change Americas energy policy;
"Also critical to our economic renewal will be energy reform
The Obama-Clinton Administration has blocked and destroyed millions of jobs through their anti-energy regulations, while raising the price of electricity for both families and businesses.
As a result of recent Obama EPA actions coal-fired power plants across Michigan have either shut down entirely or undergone expensive conversions. The Obama-Clinton war on coal has cost Michigan over 50,000 jobs. Hillary Clinton says her plan will “put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business.”
We will put our coal miners and steel workers back to work.
Clinton not only embraces President Obama’s job-killing energy restrictions but wants to expand them, including going after oil and natural gas production that employs some 10 million Americans.
According to the Heritage Foundation, by 2030, the Obama-Clinton energy restrictions will eliminate another half a million manufacturing jobs, reduce economic output by $2.5 trillion dollars, and reduce incomes by $7,000 dollars per person.
A Trump Administration will end this war on the American worker, and unleash an energy revolution that will bring vast new wealth to our country.
According to the Institute for Energy Research, lifting the restrictions on all sources of American energy will:
Increase GDP by more than $100 billion dollars annually, add over 500,000 new jobs annually, and increase annual wages by more than $30 billion dollars over the next 7 years;
Increase federal, state, and local tax revenues by almost $6 trillion dollars over 4 decades;
Increase totaleconomic activity by more than $20 trillion dollars over the next 40 years."
Reason enough to vote for Trump. It is a binary choice. Period.
Fuuuuck! We're back to rice bowls?
April is correct. These sanctimonious, holier than thou, Obama like preachers, make it even more challenging to vote for Trump. They seem self destructive and thin skinned..like their hero.
For a little variety how ,about arancini.
AprilApple said...
Your long lame re-posts are pure asshole, ed.
Then why mention them? Obviously, you don't want people to know your real motivation.
Tell me, as you clearly wanted everybody to get out of the way so Little Marco could be crowned nominee, how were you going to deal with the fact most of the base wouldn't vote for him?
One of the best bits of advise for Trump is to stop saying Hillary is "unstable".
Helpful tips from my link above.
She's corrupt. She's a liar. Say so, Trump.
Tell me, did this advice help Little Marco?
Even if every person on this blog voted on absentee ballots for Trump, copied and posted the ballot for all to see, the evangelicals here would still be preaching fire and brimstone. This ain't about Trump or even politics. This is about other issues. They're afraid to go to blogs where there are Hillary voters, so they need to yell at us CONSTANTLY.
So, you telling us you're a Hillary voter?
FWIW, I got all the lying I needed last week. A few facts are always nice.
Trump hatred brings out the worst in some people. I fear for their poor spleens.
And so it goes.
rcommal said...
If edutcher's The Blonde is the one who's taught him to use such terms as "a mental defective" in context of such diseases that he, himself, has referenced .
Having witnessed the onset of dementia, I say what I mean. One cannot reason at that point and the term defective applies.
I see we have another Trump hater ready to defend Hillary
And, yes, edutcher, so far as I can tell, you've never typed the word "cunt." However, you sure as hell have implied that many times, not called out many times people who do routinely use that word and others, and also, in general, prefer to downgrade women across the board AND broad-brush men no matter what they say or do---
Be careful when you assume. You know what happens next.
I say what I mean. And spare me the feminist boilerplate.
BTW, it always amuses me how the Trump haters wait until everyone's gone to get their last shots in.
"Who stole my strawberries?"
Baghdad Ed hallucinates Hillary voters.
Wow, that's, what, the 20th time we've seen that?
Tell us again when we're supposed to laugh.
As for Hillary voters, you're the one with the history.
April is correct. These sanctimonious, holier than thou, Obama like preachers, make it even more challenging to vote for Trump. They seem self destructive and thin skinned..like their hero.
Yes, thanks.
there is something about a Trump supporter that parallels the Obama supporters. Lots of blind faith. The parallel goes south at electability.
All Hillary Clinton needed was a candidate worse than her. Mission accomplished.
It's not Trump hatred - it's hatred that so many were duped and we get to lose again.
You really have no idea what a blood bath its going to be in Nov and it could have been avoided.
You wanted burn it down, you wanted YOUR Trumpian BS principles.
I want to win. You don't. and you have NO idea how it feels. You're just queuing up your #never trumper blame and your delusion will never die.
Never voted for a Clinton and never will, Captain Queeg. I'm guessing you were never in sales.
@nd - "Even if every person on this blog voted on absentee ballots for Trump, copied and posted the ballot for all to see, the evangelicals here would still be preaching fire and brimstone. This ain't about Trump or even politics. This is about other issues. They're afraid to go to blogs where there are Hillary voters, so they need to yell at us CONSTANTLY.
You cannot simply vote for him, you have to leave a smiley face emoji and part of our soul on the ballot. Heaven forbid you point out that Trump has no intention of winning. That makes you a Hillary supporter, or something.
Amartel said:
"You know this Hillary-is-ill thing could go too far and turn into Hillary-is-our-first- disabled President. After old whatsisname, Roosevelt. Yeah, that guy. Drop in faux knowledgeable allusions to Roosevelt was brilliant, just like Hillary, and presto, dead cat is back in the fight. Just saying. Let's not."
If she is disaabled, does she get extra points or votes in the election like we do for minority set aside programs?
AprilApple said...
All Hillary Clinton needed was a candidate worse than her. Mission accomplished.
It's not Trump hatred - it's hatred that so many were duped and we get to lose again.
You really have no idea what a blood bath its going to be in Nov and it could have been avoided.
Riiight, by nominating the Mambo King. Somebody no one in the base would trust.
Did I mention he couldn't even carry his home state?
Or maybe the other Mambo King, who couldn't even win by cheating. Imagine the fun the Demos would have had with him.
And, if you wanted to win, you'd be doing everything to win, not to lose.
BTW a little something on the folly of quoting the Gray Lady from someone who knows just a tad more about politics than you.
If you’re a reporter or pundit and believe that Mr. Trump is evil, or at least bad, “you have to throw out the textbook American journalism has been using for the better part of the past half-century, if not longer, and approach it in a way you’ve never approached anything in your career,” Jim Rutenberg, the “mediator” at The New York Times, wrote Monday. “If you view a Trump presidency as something that’s potentially dangerous, then your reporting is going to reflect that.”
But go ahead and listen to nd, who has a history of voting for the people you say you hate, but want so badly to win. Believe all the lies from people you say you don't trust, but on whose every word you hang.
For someone who says they want to win, you're hanging with the wrong crowd.
PS nd seems strangely obsessed with "The Caine Mutiny". Paranoia strikes deep, as someone once observed.
ed - You do not want to beat Hillary. It's that simple. You never did. You like your fraud and your farce.
BTW - ed - I notice you did not answer a single question from rcommal.
Ed - I notice you did not answer a single question from rcommal.
Ed - Have you given Lem any financial help towards your 24-7 blog presence?
Ed: PS I didn't trash Christie or Walker or Jeb! (really) or even Little Marco, I was just honest about how anathema he is to the base. You just melted for his big brown eyes.
Ed, I love you in a platonic sort of way. Ahhhh, I never "came out" for Marco--I was early on into Walker but when he didn't go anywhere I went with Ted. But you seem to have a thing for Marco's big brown eyes. Are you trying to tell us something, that sometimes the Blonde is not enough?
April, what's the point. You claim you hate Hillary so now you have a binary choice: Third Party or Trump. Or stay home. Bringing up the past is tiresome, keep your powder dry for November 9 if you are so sure on the outcome.
April: I did like your comment on Troop and ed. Troop makes the strong case why you should vote for Trump. ed's comments often make me question that position (Gary Johnson stop bogarting the bong please...). ed, you should probably not work in sales.
If you cannot beat Hillary - corrupt Hillary - what does that say about you?
evi - The point is - the burn it down crowd got their wish. That's the point.
Troop makes me think positively about Trump... even if it is fleeting.
Ed makes me want to vomit, and write in a name on the ballot. Ed can go f himself. He's a useless boring tired troll.
Ed I think you make a mistake making it personal. I know because I do it too and then I realize it is the wrong thing to do. You can not convince someone who wants Hillary to win so badly that all they do is trash Trump 24/7 while claiming that they are Republicans and want her to lose. It is easy to see that is not true.
What I think is a better strategy is to toute the positive things Trump is doing and saying. Point out Hillarys lies. But don't make it personal. I understand why that is hard especially when they attack your wife to get to you.
Remember the wise.words of that greet American patriot Richard Nixon.
That is to say great American Patriot Richard Nixon.
Troop - Trump is the one who needs to point out Hillary lies, Hillary is a crook, Hillary used her time at State to enrich her family foundation. (I suspect Trump won't touch the foundation because he once gave to it.) Still - why won't he do this? All he needs to do is constantly remind people that she is a financial fraud and she uses government power to enrich herself.
All he says now is "she's unstable."
"Unstable"? -- Why say that? That's weak sauce.
If you really listen to Trump now - he's not going for the brass ring. Yeah - the speech in Detroit was a positive yesterday - but he just seems like he doesn't really want this anymore. I think the primary win is all he wanted. He was delighted to set fire to the dreaded GOPe.
AprilApple said...
If you cannot beat Hillary - corrupt Hillary - what does that say about you?
Last I looked, the election is in November. Nobody's won or lost yet.
Between now and then, we're going to be lied to in ways the world hasn't seen since the Narzis were setting up Poland. If you want to believe that sludge If you really listen to Trump now - he's not going for the brass ring because it makes you feel better, feel free. Nobody in his right mind believes Trump's come this far to give up now.
April wants somebody screeching all the time the same thing. Guess what? People get bored. The Comey thing is old news.
More to the point, Hillary's health is what's scaring the Hell out of the media. You go with the hot hand. And I can remember when April wanted all the wonky policy papers - she gets them and it's not enough.
We're right back to where we were before the Khan game and that's fine. Let her blow all her money on ads that don't reach anybody. Let the media say more and more idiotic things that are being heard by nobody. Let them wear themselves out.
You know where most people are?
Finishing up their sun tans, watching the Olympics, getting the kids ready for school. It's another month before most people even start thinking about the election and, even then, most will be waiting for the debates, if they even happen, which I doubt.
So quote the Gray Lady and Puffington all you want. Tell us the biased polls reflect reality.
It don't mean a damn thing until Labor Day.
April, I sort of missed you when you were gone but you have come back shriller than ever. I know we all have different opinions, but you are a one trick pony on what a bad choice Trump is.
Ok, we really do get what your position is.
I do not want to step out of place because this is Lem's place, but at least engage ed or others in why Hillary sucks or what Trump could do to win your vote. Or let's talk about something completely outside politics. No one wants a nag (and do you really want to be one). I am guessing ed does not get that at home. Now I find ed a bit chidy too on occasion and a bit loose on how he remembers things (as in making up complete fabrications in his mind), but I know it is not personal and he is just that way. He just really supports Trump. I know where he is coming from.
I want Hillary to lose, so I want Trump to win. I have very low expectations beyond that so if Trump does well (or even mediocre), I will be pleasantly surprised. I know things will be really bad if Hillary wins. It really is that simple.
This is not a hard decision.
E, you were asking why I wasn't panicked. My answer is above.
Yeah, I know the weight of all that propaganda seems awesome and it's tough listening to slanted polls, but I think the trick is perspective. You understand what's going on and you can separate the wheat from the chaff.
My feel right now is the hysteria on the Left is for a reason. Yeah, smearing Trump is fun for them, but the cacophony is unprecedented from anything I remember, except maybe '64.
They're scared and now we know why.
More polls out today. All bad news for Trump.
Evi - why would anyone want to engage with Ed?
Ed - I notice you did not answer a single question from rcommal. Why not?
Ed - Have you given Lem any financial help towards your 24-7 blog presence?
shorter ed.... delusion. delusion. delusion. Really - it's so tired.
btw- Nobody wants to answer my question.
Why isn't Trump hammering Hillary in an effective way that matters?
AprilApple said...
More polls out today. All bad news for Trump.
Wow, color me surprised.
He is, sweets.
You don't care is all.
Ed Hates Scott Walker. Both Ed and Trump would rather see Russ Feingold as Wisconsin governor.
The DNC-MSM and Ed have everything in common. Fire Hose the horrid imperfect GOPe!
Replace those horrible people with Trump-leftists. Like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi - all candidates Trump supported.
Congrats.
Ed - I notice you did not answer a single question from rcommal. Why not?
Ed - Have you given Lem any financial help towards your 24-7 blog presence?
April, to answer your question Trump did well yesterday with his Detroit speech. Even you acknowledged it was good, for about a half dozen words, before you went back on message.
Come on, admit your goal is to get Trump supporters to switch to Hillary or stay home, because it can't be just saying you told us so.
If that is your goal, RedState is waiting!
April, interesting you asked why anyone would engage with ed, and then ask him two questions in a row:
Blogger AprilApple said...
Evi - why would anyone want to engage with Ed?
Ed - I notice you did not answer a single question from rcommal. Why not?
Ed - Have you given Lem any financial help towards your 24-7 blog presence?
August 9, 2016 at 11:37 AM
All I saw from rcommal was accusations.
And I made my point.
E, saw the shout out. Life is getting weird.
No Evi - sorry. I want Hillary to lose. I don't think Trump does.
Ed - You don't recall that Trump bashed Walker from the left?
Trump had no problem bashing from the left - but he holds back any meaningful bashing of Hillary. Saying she's "Unstable" is a joke.
April Apple, you are being dishonest.
I am calling you out on it. Nothing you say is the least bit indicative of that. Oh sure, you point out how you dislike Hillary and she would be a disaster. Then you spend all your time saying how Trump is doomed, it was a bad choice for the GOP and he will never get his act together.
If you believe that, then we got it. Why do you keep trolling? Why the constant pot stirring relentlessly on this issue.
I know you will continue to do what you do because you are intentionally trolling. That is the difference between ed and you. Ed believes what he is saying. You are engaged in a different game.
Evi - I'm not attacking you for your opinions. You are welcome to them.
Ed doesn't answer any tough questions because he is deluded.
It would be fantastic if Trump were doing to Hillary what he and the DNC press did to the GOPe.
Trump's supporters insisted it would be like nothing we've ever witnessed!
and what do we get? - "unstable"
Good gravy. Isn't it obvious?
April Apples, you are trolling. You are trying to help Hillary and it has become obvious. I will let ed respond to you since you seem to enjoy that.
Evi- You are not deluded like Ed, which is great news for you. However, there is a disconnect between wanting Hillary to lose and actually understanding how to make that happen. That's not my problem. That problem belongs to Trump and his supporters. THEY must fix this.
Blind faith, delusion, and hope doesn't cut it.
AJ said "If she is disaabled, does she get extra points or votes in the election like we do for minority set aside programs?"
I think we both know the answer to that one.
That edutcher can make it through this barrage and continue to present himself and his opinions with the same consistent voice he's been using for years, speaks to me of integrity.
I don't have to like or agree with his opinions to honor this trait in him. Evi exhibits the bovine version of the same with a tail swish added and I appreciate that as well.
Joe Scarborough: Trump campaign is nothing but 'a scam' and 'marketing ploy'
I knew it more than a year ago. To bad it's too late.
from the link:
...While discussing the 2016 race Tuesday on "Morning Joe," co-host Mika Brzezinski said there were signs that Trump's campaign is a lark, such as the plagiarism blow-up that rocked his wife Melania's speech at the GOP convention in late July.
Scarborough said the campaign is entirely "a marketing ploy" that has tapped into racial tensions among some voters.
"It is all a marketing— he doesn't believe it," he said. "He doesn't believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya and I'm not defending him. I say this is even worse that you play it cynically. I've known the guy for 12 years, I've never heard him say the first thing that even resembles a racist remark. And he's just the type of person that if you were sitting around the table and somebody made a racist remark, he would raise his eyebrow and say, 'Are you kidding me? Where are you from, the 1950s?' This is all a scam. It's all a marketing routine ..."
April, there is no disconnect in noting you are a troll.
Why are you abusing us all with this barrage? Maybe its time to treat you as most respond to Lawn Boy.
Evi - so only pro-trump-speak and pro-Trump links are allowed? Or what - treason?
Most of us here HATE Hillary. Almost all of us, actually. A select few here LOVE Trump. Most of us are in the disdain--tolerate--like Trump, spectrum. April hates Hillary and Trump. Therein lies the problem.
April, I find it tedious every day your rants on Trump, with the caveat that you are totally against Hillary and her victory would be a disaster. But we got your point, so why do you relentlessly go on? Do you do that at home with your spouse or children (do you have a spouse and children)? You would not do that to friends in a conversation would you? So why do you keep doing it here?
If you said you were pro Hillary, fair enough. If you said you could not support Trump or Hillary fair enough. But why the constant carping on Trump? Multiple times, all day long, again and again. What's the end game? To show everyone how smart you are? Or is it your way to discourage Trump supporters to give up and support Hillary? What are you trying to accomplish?
Nick, seriously, am I missing something. I know you do not care for Trump, but you dislike Hillary even more.
MamaM said...
That edutcher can make it through this barrage and continue to present himself and his opinions with the same consistent voice he's been using for years, speaks to me of integrity.
Thank you, ma'am.
I despise Hillary. I REALLY dislike Trump. But, it wasn't about me. I was just trying to show what separates April from most everyone here. She's not going to change anyone's mind here. Nor are the Trump lovers. It's folly, really.
People need to read and comment on Chip's post about greetings and good wishes or some of the other levity posts. Some folks are politics 24/7. It's not healthy.
I butt heads w/ ed but he will comment on levity posts and that's where he and I bury the hatchet and reconnect outside politics. That's healthy. Same w/ April. I have butt heads w/ her but on lighter posts we put that aside.
I have purposefully stayed away from this thread because of dumping because of ed/april. You both have veered into the land of trolls. That's your prerogative, but I hate seeing it to be honest. You are not forwarding your causes at all and instead are locked into nothing more than a war of pixels.
Nick: I concur there are other things to do than this. I am done complaining. I hope ed is happy on November 9. I will leave it at that.
The War of the Pixies - starring Paul Lynde, music by Leonard Bernstein, choreography by Jerome Robbins.
What?
No way do I have the brains or energy to enter into this running repartee but I enjoy reading those who can do it. The tension on Lem's will probably keep building until election day. What else is there to do?
I left this last night and thought it was done.
I left it this morning and thought it was done.
If it's still going, I've had nothing to do with it.
Pixies: Women of War
Paul Lynde on pixies...
Evi nailed it.
ndspinelli said...
Most of us here HATE Hillary. Almost all of us, actually. A select few here LOVE Trump. Most of us are in the disdain--tolerate--like Trump, spectrum. April hates Hillary and Trump. Therein lies the problem.
I just spent 5 days among cheeseheads -- yes, I'm willing to cast disdain. I met far too many people who are willing to vote for Hillary as a mere anti-Trump gesture and vice versa. There is no "third party" in battle ground states.
I've said too much and I'll leave it all here at the bottom of this thread. You are correct. No more.
It's not about "hate". I don't get emotionally attached to a candidate in a love/hate sort of way (well except Hillary - I really hate her.)(and that's the problem and I cannot seem to get that across, so I will give up)
It IS about sobriety, reality, and knowing how to win. The GOP and the GOP base (I say that loosely) no longer have any clue how to win a big election.
I'm just pissed because this is NOT the election to throw in the garbage. and we've done just that.
*BTW- Just like before, the polls are real. Trump really is losing badly.
*No - this is not an invitation for ed to spew more delusion.
The people I met and reconnected with in Wisconsin who are Hillary supporters deserve Hillary. Wisconsin deserves Hillary good and hard!
I do not wish Hillary on my worst enemy.
I happen to love my country.
chick, I'm getting the same from folks I chat w/ in Wisconsin. Very little 3rd party vibe except from hardcore liberals voting for Stein. But, I still see very few Hillary lawn signs. There are still more Bernie signs on the Commie eastside of Madison.
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