Breibart News December 4, 2015 by John Nolte
After a coordinated DC Media attack that would have ground any other candidate into ash and dust, Donald Trump has not only held on to first place in the latest CNN national poll of GOP primary voters, he has surged +9 points to a massive +20 point lead. As of now, in a 12 person race, Trump sits at an astonishing 36%; his closest rival,
jumped +12 points to 16% support.
Despite spending tens of millions of dollars on ads, Jeb Bush sunk -5 points to just 3% support.
Chris Christie, the man the DC Media has been hyping for two weeks, sits at just 4%. Last month he sat at just 4%. All that DC Media love didn’t bump the New Jersey governor up even 1 point.
On every crucial issue, Trump is surging and obliterates second place:
He holds massive margins over other Republicans as the candidate most trusted to handle the economy (at 55%, Trump stands 46 percentage points over his nearest competitor), the federal budget (51%, up 41 points), illegal immigration (48%, up 34 points), ISIS (46%, up 31 points) and foreign policy (30%, up 13 points). …Among those Republican voters who call the economy extremely important, for example, 60% say they trust Trump to handle that issue. Among immigration voters, 55% trust Trump on the issue. On foreign policy, Trump inches up to 32%, and among those who call terrorism an extremely important issue, 49% say they trust Trump most on ISIS. …More generally, about 4 in 10 Republicans say Trump is the candidate who would be most effective at solving the country’s problems (42% name Trump, 14% Carson, 12% Cruz, 10% Rubio) and could best handle the responsibilities of being commander-in-chief (37% Trump, 16% Cruz, 11% Carson and 10% Rubio).
On what might be the most important question in a presidential primary poll, a whopping 52% of primary voters believe Trump has the best chance of beating Hillary Clinton. Rubio comes in second with just 15%.
In fact the only area where Trump loses is in former Obama voters, affirmative action hired law professors and semi-retired private investigators. Along with criminals and the mentally ill who are sure fire Democrat voters.
Important note: This poll was taken before the San Bernardino Islamic terror attack. When you look at how the news of the attack is unfolding and compare it to Trump’s tough stance on domestic security, you have to conclude his numbers will only improve.
Most of all, though, this poll reflects a massive failure in the DC Media’s waning ability to shape the national debate and define candidates.
My God, on nothing less than “Meet the Press,” the Mac Daddy of DC Media-ism, practically the entire show was dedicated to comparing Trump to a Nazi.
For weeks, the DC Media has thrown CrazyStupidRacist at Trump from a Gatling Gun of hate and frustration and fear like nothing we’ve seen in years. Not only has this attack failed, it appears to be backfiring.
The problem is two-fold: First off, the DC Media is bubble-dumb and completely out of touch with the average American. Secondly, as they become more and more frustrated by their inability to move public opinion on issues like gun control, Syrian refugees, and Trump, they become more and more insulated, defensive, and hysterically partisan. They retreat and talk only to themselves.
Like their baby ObamaCare, the DC Media is in a credibility death spiral.
Do not count them out, though. Over the coming year, they are only going to get nastier, more shrill, and more dishonest.
Back to the poll:
Trump leads with Independents with 35% support. Cruz is in 2nd with 18%.
Trump leads with women with 33% support. Cruz is in 2nd with 15%.
Among us non-college graduates (those the GOP Establishment see as “the rubes”), Trump earns an astonishing 46% support. Cruz comes in 2nd with just 12%. This disproportionate gap, when compared to other groups, makes me wonder if Trump isn’t expanding the Republican base with the Rustbelt working class.
For months I’ve argued that appealing to this group was and is a big part of The Donald’s strategy– to appeal to disaffected Reagan Democrats left behind by their Party’s wild shift to the far-left under Obama, and angry at a Republican Establishment eager to import illegal immigrants who will steal what few working class jobs remain in this country.
America’s working class (my roots) feel left behind by both Parties. When Trump rips bad trade deals, promises to crack down on illegals, blasts a DC Media that despises working people, and blows apart one fascist politically-correct construct after another, that has always come off to me as part of a bigger strategy lost on a DC Media that is now so bubbled and smug and hypnotized by the sound of their own lies, they are blind to whatever is right in front of them.
Every time I worry about how undisciplined Trump appears, and how often he gets himself into trouble, one Big Question looms in the back of my mind…
If the Republican Establishment can’t beat Trump with the media on their side, how will they beat Hillary Clinton with the media on her side?
61 comments:
Yes, He's our douchebag. He's doing very well among REPUBLICANS.
I of course disparage this line of the reasoning, but since it's been used here a lot lately how this?
Romney won 93% of the Republican vote and how did that turn out?
Rush had some good analysis today about what is going on with Trump.
I've long thought that it made great sense to try an experienced businessman as President, but why did it have to be a douchebag?
Because most if not all businessmen are douchebags. At least the very successful ones.
Trump is just honest about it more than most.
Romney was a douchebag. A weak one. That is why he lost.
But bags. What about the question? If they can't be him down with universal contempt in all sides of the media then how do they expect to take down Hillary who is protected by the main stream media.
I think that it is still a long shot that Trump wins the nomination. But if the establishment trashes Trump and more importantly his voters then they are in for a rude awakening.
IIRC Romney in the primaries was always around 25%. That was good enough for the GOPe to proclaim he's our boy. He ran as the GOPe golden boy (Big government,Obamaromney-caregiver)
and lost. I could care less about the GOP, they don't represent my interests at all. They can dry up and blow away.
The only people represented, by both parties, are the inhabitants of D.C.,the Chamber of Commerce, Lobbyists,Goldman Sachs, and the governments of Mexico, China and Saudi Arabia.
Interesting to note the RNC is advising its Senatorial candidates next year to emulate The Donald.
Trooper York said...
Because most if not all businessmen are douchebags. At least the very successful ones.
If so, what does that make the independent retail merchant?
Just askin'.
Romney was a douchebag. A weak one. That is why he lost
No, it's becoming more and more clear it was the vote fraud.
Of course I am a douchebag ed. Just not enough of a douchebag to be as rich as those guys. In fact I would be a lot more successful if I were a complete douchebag. I would make my clothes in China instead of the US. I would exploit illegal immigrants instead of hiring American Citizens. Do all the things that made Romney and Trump rich.
The GOPe keeps saying that Trump is not qualified to be President and they are determined to shove Jeb or Rubio or some other RINO clone down our throats. They are planning to manipulate the system....again.
First of all the decision on who is qualified to be President is not their decision. It is up to the voters to decide. Do the voters make some bad decisions....you bet. Just look at the eff up clown we have now in the White House.
Ask yourself, could Donald Trump POSSIBLY be any worse than Obumbler? Any worse? At least Trump is not actively trying to destroy the US and wants it to be richer and more successful. When the US does well, Trump as a business does well.
The GOPe has completely lost touch with what the base and the independents want. Trump is saying, what WE are thinking. He is laying out the priorities of the common voter and not the priorities of the GOP elites.
Trooper is right. Trash Trump and trash the voters at their own peril. I will NOT vote for Bush, Rubio....I would consider Cruz IF it came down to a fair race where the voters got to have their say and the Rovian creeps just butt the h3ll out.
I think there are a bunch of people like you and me DBQ. We are tired of the Republicans act. They control the House and the Senate and they don't do jack shit. It is time to blow it up.
Trump is the bomb.
So to speak.
The question posed is why I initially quietly supported Trump. By quiet, I mean I don't support him, but I don't disparage him either. I rather have Trump in office than Hillary or Sanders. But here's one more thing, as much as I think Jeb would be a better President than his brother and better than Trump; I rather not see him office. So, I'm quiet about Trump.
There are better options still running, but of them, I think Fiorina would have the easiest time against Hillary. She wouldn't have the media's support, but she negates the value of much of that support.
Hey Troop, I'm no fan of the Congressional GOP, but how about a hand for the effort last night. As the article says, some of it is symbolic, but they quietly took advantage of the latest events, while the Administration was out saying some stupid things.
If Trump wins the nomination, he will get a lot of blue collar Democrats to vote for him.
They like his message, and they don't trust Hillary.
"But bags. What about the question? If they can't be him down with universal contempt in all sides of the media then how do they expect to take down Hillary who is protected by the main stream media.
Nobody is gonna take down Hillary. Everyone knows what she is, and everyone knows what Trump is. Nobody is gonna take him down either. They are both teflon within their own constituencies. It's not about who's gonna win the nomination - Trump can certainly win that, and it looks like he will. The question is what happens next. There seems to be a conflation of Trumps strength within his base as being a strength across all groups. It all turns on the independents and fence sitters. Fence sitters by definition are cautious. I don't feel confident about cautious people choosing Trump. It's that simple about winning the general.
Beyond that, I'm thinking that true conservatives, and definitely libertarians, will not be too happy with a Trump Presidency once we get it. I could be wrong, and I hope I am, because I do think he can win, but I think Rubio is a more sure thing against Hillary. I'm not all hung up on immigration - I live it more than anyone here, and I don't think a bunch of people will be deported no matter who wins, and there probably won't be a fence built either. The government can't even build a website, and Trump can't fix the reasons for that.
I would love to see a man with Trump's abilities and spine as President IF he liked small government. I don't think Trump likes anything small, especially if he's part of it.
I guess it really comes down to what you care about most. Immigration, or the size of government. Getting government under control is way more important to me. If we got rid of every illegal tomorrow we would still have most of the problems I care about. If we shank government, nobody would care about immigration because the parasitic ones would leave on their own.
After all of this fighting I'm doing, I can see becoming a Trumpette myself eventually. It's up to him to show me he's not who I think he is.
You don't live immigration more than I do bags. Especially working in the garment industry.
But forget that. I went into Court Pastry. The Italian pastry shop I have been going to for fifty years. Generations off neighborhood girls got their first jobs there handing out cannoli's and lemon ices in the summer. I went to buy pastries and cookies for Thanksgiving. You know who was working there. Little Mexican girls. None of them over four feet tall or weighing more than 90 pounds. I asked the owner how come he didn't have any neighborhood girls working. He said the Mexicans were cheaper. Way cheaper.
You see he is great businessman. Owns five buildings worth more then 5 million in the neighborhood. Great business. Big time douchebag.
Oh, and all businessmen are not douchebags. Some of us are just huge dicks, but I can see how that confusion would arise.
It's FRIDAY!!!!!!!
Listen I don't know if Trump can bring it home. He might just get tired of it and hand it off to Cruz. Cruz has been smart enough not to diss Trump or his supporters. If Trump campaigns for him he can bring a lot of his supporters with him. Because who is he going to try and swing his voters to? Bush? Rickey Ricardo? Carly with the laughing Face?
Cruz stands to profit the most from Trump's candidacy.
I haven't even seen a non-immigrant since 1981.
Leland I like what the Republicans did with that bill. Lets do it again. Every day. Keep pounding Obama and make him veto bills every day and twice on Sunday. That is what they should be doing from the minute they got elected.
Should we applaud them for doing what they ran on and what their voters expected?
AllenS is correct as well.
There are a lot of blue collar dems and what used to be called the Democrat Blue Dogs...people like Zell Miller who are indicating that they like Trump.
My husband has breakfast twice a week with some buddies at the local coffee shop. They shoot the breeze, solve the world's problems before going off to work. Many of the guys who show up there are not on the same page politically as we are (us being fiscal conservatives, libertarian and social issues are a big meh! when it comes to voting.). However, lately, even the most liberal, global warming worshiper at the breakfast club has expressed that they like The Donald.
Illegal immigration, terrorism, crap economy, fake unemployement stats etc are the main issues.
This is why Cruz and Trump are leading in the polls. The issues that affect us personally and are those things that are representative of the most danger are those that Trump and Cruz are espousing.
We are literally in a wartime mindset and a very depressed economy and people are looking to leaders with strength and the ability to speak plainly. Jeb and Rubio and the rest of those clowns are just doing the same old same old kabuki dance of telling us what they think we want to hear and then plan to ignore us and go back on all of their promises.
So...even if Trump doesn't speak the politically correct speak or do the pre arranged dance, this is a bonus and a plus. We are sick of the rest of these A-holes and need to have a REAL change. Jeb isn't it. Rubio isn't it. Christy (while really entertaining) isn't it either. I like Fiorina, just not in the lead position.
If the GOPe ever expects to win again....ever.....they need to back off and let the voters be the deciders and stop with all the schemes to take out Trump. If Trump fails on his own...so be it. Otherwise...back the eff off.
Once upon a time that Italian Pastry shop made German food with German workers, until those damned wops came in and started working for less, and they didn't even speak English or German for Christ's sake.
Com'om bags. Bragging that you have a big dick is prima facie proof of douchebaggery.
Not true. The German Bakers only hired Germans. That was the College bakery on Butler Street. They never hired the wops.
Although they did hire the occasional Puerto Rican. The owner Gunter liked his spicy Chiquita's.
OK then, I have a huge bag, it's potpourri.
The Italian Bakery once hired a pasty faced Irish girl from Degraw Street. She slipped and fell into a vat of flour and was never heard from again. Nobody had grain pie that year. Just sayn'
Lets see. Small government which is going to take years and years of struggle to achieve.......or being wiped out literally and culturally under a swarm of illegal aliens who are sucking the life out of the welfare and entitlement system ..... or blown to h3ll by terrorists.
That small government is a great thing and we as a tea party sympathizer are all for it. But....I think I want to remain alive to enjoy it first
The Spanish chick used to let Gunther eat a gingerbread man from out of her gidgy. She had a job for life.
Well until she got knocked up by Bernardo.
Speaking of big bags there a bunch of post lined up for late night with a recurring theme.
I think you will appreciate the point. Or points as it were.
(Trigger warning)
It is true that Trump is really liked by a lot of people who don't like traditional Republicans like my girl who voted for Obama twice. She loves him. It wouldn't surprise me if he did really well in the election.
I just want my fucking smaller government, and I don't see anyone offering that, including Trump. Trooper, could you talk to him. All I ever get is his damned voicemail. It says: "Leave a message, and it better be wonderful, or YOU'RE FIRED!" What a douche.
Well the next time we have a meeting of the Failed Reality Star Justice League in the Fortress of Solitude I will bring it up.
Of course Trump only likes things that are yyyyuuuuugggggeeeeee!!!!!
I can get you a date with Honey Boo Boo's Mom if you want though. No problem.
OK, I'll start drinking now. I'll be ready for her next Friday.
No applause for the Senate, but a hardy well done for at least one good day. Compared to Lynch, who also said in the interview that the shooting was a "wonderful opportunity"; Mitch McConnell is looking better. But then, that's damning praise for McConnell.
I have a post about Sweet Loretta coming up Leland.
Bag's take the advice of Enzo the Baker from Court Pastry. Roll her in flour and go for the wet spot. Just sayn'
Trooper York said...
Do all the things that made Romney and Trump rich.
You might justify that with The Donald - there are accusations (of course, he probably treated any immigrants who worked for him better than they'd known in their lives), but Bain Capital financed companies that were good risks, made investments, that's all.
You may not like Romney because of his privileged background, but you're probably on firmer ground going after Gates or Zuckerberg.
Just so we know where we are.
Total 100% agreement with Bagoh. Well stated.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Lets see. Small government which is going to take years and years of struggle to achieve.......or being wiped out literally and culturally under a swarm of illegal aliens who are sucking the life out of the welfare and entitlement system ..... or blown to h3ll by terrorists.
That small government is a great thing and we as a tea party sympathizer are all for it. But....I think I want to remain alive to enjoy it first
Agreed, but it's going to take somebody who can take down the media and the Democrats. So far, that's The Donald, maybe Cruz.
Scott Walker's shown it can be done.
I could see Cabinet posts for Walker and Jindal in the future.
Leland said...
No applause for the Senate, but a hardy well done for at least one good day. Compared to Lynch, who also said in the interview that the shooting was a "wonderful opportunity"; Mitch McConnell is looking better. But then, that's damning praise for McConnell.
Interesting it comes now. Those who wanted their symbolic vote got it, but why this could not have happened earlier is the real issue.
Clearly the Choom Gang is collapsing of its own incompetence and any hopes of any of the Whigs getting the nomination is just about gone.
Maybe the blackmail threat no longer works because there are too many Democrat bodies that could be exhumed. Maybe the devil's bargain to kill the Tea Party is null and void.
But Leland's right. Today, McConnell finally did some good.
It is always wonderful when someone does something with a gun to his head. Shows how much leadership and integrity that the Republican leadership has in their well fed guts.
Interesting it comes now. Those who wanted their symbolic vote got it, but why this could not have happened earlier is the real issue.
@ Edutcher
This why did it take so long is also one of the things that is sticking in the craw of the Republican voters.
We elected them based on their promises to undo much of Obama's agenda and to fight for us. They promised and YET, when they get into Congress, we get the song and dance that "Well, if we pass this law to repeal Obamacare/push the Keystone Pipeline through/curb the EPA etc etc etc etc....Obama will veto it and we probably won't have the votes to override it.....so therefore we will do NOTHING."
Who CARES if he vetoes it. Who CARES if you can't get an override. We sent you there to pass these laws. Keep passing the laws and force the vetoes. Let the giant dork veto every single law that you send through and it will show everyone who is doing their job, who is not doing their job.....and more importantly who is just freaking lying to us. Keep sending the laws as you promised.
We sent you there to represent us. Do your G-damned job!!!! And guess what....You're FIRED!
Now it is too little too late. We are tired of being lied to and treated like chumps.
We want him to veto every law that they pass. Every day. Put it out there. Also put everyone on the record. If the squishy Republicans want to go along with the liberal bullshit make them vote for it. Don't protect them by not bringing it to a vote. Make a record. Make a statement. Make Obama veto it. Now.
I say it'll all shake out when real voters start going to the polls and start casting real votes. That's where the Trump haters who think he's a douchebag can go to do their little share to oppose him. In the meantime, I say we should encourage as many of the candidates as possible to stay in the race until then, maximizing our choices, and we get to see the real douchebags along the way.
I'm with you guys on all that stuff. I don't see what it has to do with Trump at this point. He would have signed Obamacare, and any Republican would OK Keystone.
The thing is will the Rhino's support the ticket if Trump or Cruz is the nominee. POS William Kristol and POS George Will have already indicated that they would not vote for Trump. They will demand a loyalty oath from Trump but will refuse on in return. Over and over again we have seen the Royalist Rhino faction sabotage conservative nominees to get one of their go along to get along crony capitalist lap dogs. Now Trump is not a conservative. He is a populist. That is why he is getting support from places that DBQ is reporting on. He has a bigger reach than most of the others. He has a big downside but I think he has an even bigger upside.
This is what Reagan had in '80.
The Whigs then were dragged kicking and screaming into the nomination, but he had the votes. This is The Donald's advantage - those Reagan Democrats
Seems to me if the Whigs want to stay separate from the Demos (the Demos probably have replacements in such an event) a double cross as we saw in '10 would be asking for a schism that would cost them dearly.
And, on a realted note,
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Interesting it comes now. Those who wanted their symbolic vote got it, but why this could not have happened earlier is the real issue.
@ Edutcher
This why did it take so long is also one of the things that is sticking in the craw of the Republican voters. We elected them based on their promises to undo much of Obama's agenda and to fight for us. They promised and YET, when they get into Congress, we get the song and dance that "Well, if we pass this law to repeal Obamacare/push the Keystone Pipeline through/curb the EPA etc etc etc etc....Obama will veto it and we probably won't have the votes to override it.....so therefore we will do NOTHING."
Who CARES if he vetoes it. Who CARES if you can't get an override. We sent you there to pass these laws. Keep passing the laws and force the vetoes. Let the giant dork veto every single law that you send through and it will show everyone who is doing their job, who is not doing their job.....and more importantly who is just freaking lying to us. Keep sending the laws as you promised.
We sent you there to represent us. Do your G-damned job!!!! And guess what....You're FIRED!
That's exactly it.
The base will dump them first chance they get. They sold their souls and get nothing but well-deserved scorn for their trouble.
Goethe would understand.
If he has the votes, they will kiss the ring.
I would ask all to remember this. Our political sage jamming Trump down our throats has lived his entire life on the same neighborhood in Brooklyn. Maybe on the same street?
Trump talks like him. That's why he has a boner for Trump.
Look at the amount of people that atend the TRUMP rallies. Over 10 thousand all the time. I don't see any other candidate that attracts those crowds.
A lot of big GOP donors want jeb. But he just does not have the confidence of the people. Same as all the bottom rung players on the GOP ticket.
I agree with what a lot of u have said. We nominated Mitt Romney.looked the part .. Nice guy towed the Establishment line. Said the right things but it did not get us the win . people need a leader someone who has a set.
Die hard dems are always going to vote for thier candidate no matter who it is. Marion Barry (who died ladt year ) could be the nominee and they would vote for him.
To win the white house we need to convince the independent s and the libertarians and the fence sitting republicans who did not come out last time around.
He may be a douche but he is our douche
bagoh20 wrote: I'm not all hung up on immigration - I live it more than anyone here, and I don't think a bunch of people will be deported no matter who wins, and there probably won't be a fence built either.
*Do you have two kids in public schools up there?
*I bet my 'hood has more immigrants than your hood.
*I work with immigrants everyday (i'm not an employer like you, though).
*I'm married to an immigrant.
I'm hoping for Trump but never underestimate the stupidity of the Republican voters. Most of them are well-to-do and support the status quo -whatever it is at the current moment. They're easily scared and as long as they have a good job and a house they're happy as clams.
I'm surprised how many of them are open borders fanatics and love immigrants, but they probably think its "good for business" which is all they care about anyway.
They'll probably be happy if Hillary wins, as long as she doesn't but the capital gains tax. Trump may rock the boat.
Blue Collar people seem to like Trump, just like they liked Reagan. I'm wonder if there enough of them left.
We need to get the libertarians and the fence sitters to come out and vote. These people stayed home the last time.
Trump is getting thousands at his rallies. Nobody does it better.
Trump trump trump !!!
Chicklit,
* I raised two kids in public schools here. Both kids are 1st generation Americans
* 70% of the people I know are immigrants
* I have godchildren in Mexico
* Of course the majority of my employees are immigrants. It's not legally, morally, or practically possible to have it otherwise in Los Angeles. We check every one through the government E-verify system and have done so since it was first made available and was voluntary.
* I had a common law wife for 13 years who was born and raised in Mexico, now a citizen.
* About 1/3 of my day is conducted in Spanish.
I still welcome an immediate end to illegal immigration, anchor babies, and benefits for illegals.
I would also love to build the fence, although I wish we didn't need it. We wouldn't if we enforced our laws, didn't give away the farm to anyone who crosses the border.
I wish all the illegals would go back home and get in line behind everyone else. That's just fair.
I'm all for Trumps immigration ideas. I just don't think they will happen.
I hate Rosie O'Donnell!
I have a big cock and want everyone to see my manhood. Would it be ok to display for all to see? I want u to see my cock. I have becum a big sharer lately.
Before I was on the dl and but now I am about exposing my body.
I know chick wants to examine the hog, but do the rest of you want to see my veiny god?
Hell, chick will do a chirbit about my monster.
And lets face it when was the last time any of your seen a hard hog?
I mentioned Rosie O'Donnell and Titus pops a chubby. I guess that makes sense.
rcocean said...
I'm hoping for Trump but never underestimate the stupidity of the Republican voters. Most of them are well-to-do and support the status quo -whatever it is at the current moment. They're easily scared and as long as they have a good job and a house they're happy as clams
Not really. That went out with Pearl Harbor, or at least I Like Ike. Your average Republican is a small businessman. The Rs have been the party of Main Street at least since the 50s and the Demos are now the party of Wall Street and have been for at least 25 years. For 40 years or so (since Nixon), large swathes of blue collar America has been Republican.
Astounding how the old New Deal stereotypes persist.
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