Tuesday, September 1, 2015

Tell it like it is Mr. Trump




You know why Donald Trump is doing so well in this primary season? I think it is just because he is not afraid to tell it as it is and throw political correctness out the window. He is willing to fight. To mix it up. He is not afraid to offend anyone. Or everyone. He will go for the jugular and not back down.

That is enough for me. The rest of it is just details.

37 comments:

rcocean said...

Jeb is such an easy target. He's got the Macho quality of his father and the brains of his Brother.

AllenS said...

He just delivered a giant kick to the nuts.

edutcher said...

He is willing to fight. To mix it up. He is not afraid to offend anyone. Or everyone. He will go for the jugular and not back down.

That, in a nutshell

People want somebody who will fight for them.

rcocean said...

Jeb is such an easy target. He's got the Macho quality of his father and the brains of his Brother.

Um, his father was the youngest carrier pilot in WWII and his brother was smart enough to win in Iraq when all the smart people said it couldn't be done.

Jeb should be so lucky.

chickelit said...

¡Jeb!'s mistake was to remain soft on illegals' hard crime and sanctuary cities' enablement of the same. This could have been done w/o appearing overly tough on non-violent illegal immigrants. Hell, they probably appreciate somebody getting the scum.

Getting tough on sanctuary cities means getting tough on La Raza and George Ramos. That's not a fight ¡Jeb! wants to take on.

ndspinelli said...
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bagoh20 said...

Truthfully, Trump is right and he is wrong, and the same goes for Jeb Bush. Some illegals are acting out of the same impulses of love and inspiration as any decent person would, and some are low-life scum criminals. The argument about who is right is just fake, and opportunistic.

The truth is they are all illegally entering, but we would likely be willing to allow some and not others because it's stupid to have an open border as we do, but cruel and selfish to close your eyes to the human need by closing it tight (which nobody is really advocating anyway).

Is anyone addressing both sides of this argument without grandstanding for one constituency or the other? Is anyone being honest and reasonable? Neither position has a future. Who is trying to make a workable, fair, compassionate system that can actually come to be?

bagoh20 said...

We may enjoy Trump stomping the critics (and we really do right now), but when we become the critics someday, which we will, how will that be a bonus? As far as I can tell, he has no philosophy, no ideology, no direction, that we can count on him to pursue out of conviction, moral compass, or even emotional attachment other than his love of all things Trump. I do really enjoy the style, but what is the substance? And isn't that exactly what Obama's success is based in? He broke nearly every promise he made to his believers, but always did what was best for himself - at least as much as his limited wisdom could muster. Is Trump smarter? If he is, doesn't that just mean he will better serve himself? I don't have any idea what the man will do with the power of the Presidency. We should have a better idea of that than the typical Obama fan did in 2007 about their feel-good guy.

ampersand said...

Still wonder. Is it pronounced ¡Heb! or ¡Yeb!

rcommal said...

“The fact that a 4 years old kid can use an smart phone does not mean the kid is a genius, it means engineers are.”

This is SO TRUE! And I am excited to see that acknowledged here.

Thanks, Lem, seriously and sincerely, for that banner quote. It gives me hope for a someday other than the current this-day.

rcommal said...

Not that I'm entirely convinced that engineers get *everything* right, because of course they don't, which does not mean engineers aren't terrifically valuable, because they are, full stop. And don't I know it, generally and specifically.

; )

Guildofcannonballs said...

Anyone that would employ Roger Stone for decades must absolutely be a blank slate we can denigrate as unpure. Stone has no history we could understand and learn from.

People are NOT policy, any tiny little business owner would know that, right?

You hire advisors like Stone to someday maybe give you street cred when you "fire" them after decades. Duh. Everyone knows that.

In fact, any Alphas around here that want to hire me at six figures per year, then month, can do that very thing, as long as my job title is Stonelike Advisor To Be Eliminated.

Guildofcannonballs said...

The best comedic representation of politics I have ever seen was a scene with Jim Carrey as Fire Marshal Bill.

He is attempting to teach self-defense and has someone "stab" him.

She stabs him.

He then instructs her how to properly stab someone while bleeding from being stabbed by the lady he is instructing how to stab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vvI26NnwE

Trooper York said...

Bags it is all about tribes these days. Trombone is more my tribe than not.

Power line reports that a new study shows that more than half of all illegal aliens are on some form of public assistance.

Jeb loves this. Trump not so much.

Trump is like A-Rod or Roger Clemins. He is an asshole. But he is our asshole and I will root for him to win.

William said...

Schwarzenegger was plenty macho. People thought that they were getting the next Reagan. They ended up with a Kennedy in law. The same thing might happen with Trump. He is probably far more liberal than he lets on. ........Schwarzenegger is a best case analogy. The proper comparison might be Ventura. Underneath all that bluster, Trump might be kind of stupid. I know he's a successful developer and gets things done, but he looks like he's got more cunning than wisdom. Making a lot of money is just not the best metric for taking the measure of a politician. It's how you handle a reading hairline that demonstrates your ability to handle the tragic experience of life.

Chip Ahoy said...

C'mon, he would be a shit president. From a conservative's point of view, complete shit.

It's such a shame he's sucking the oxygen from Republican field but their leadership deserves it. Republicans have a fine bench with a few smelly turds that stink up the place with their New Jersey stickiness and their Ohio gooieness, and their Arkansas churchiness, and their Florida noblesse oblige, and their Pennsylvania smug Eagle scoutiness, other than those few miscreant flawed personalities a fine bench indeed.

I'm expecting Trump to self-destruct.

And for Cruz to pick up the pieces and make out like a bandito because he is the second most fierce.

I look at Cruz when he faces the camera directly and ask him telepathically, "how did your nose get cranked out of shape?" It looks like somebody caught him with left hook to the nose. That's where your arm bends in firing position and locks and your entire body twists to deliver the punch pow across the nose disjointing it right out of plumb. I bet it bled like a mother. Ew, that's gross.

But he does not answer. All that telepathic energy and he just rattles on in his high-pitched squeaky voice oblivious to my nose-related question, and now it's a thing, what DID happen to that disjointed nose? Whom did he offend? I bet he deserved it. Ten dollars says he deserved it. He's provocative. Somebody hit him. Probably his own dad.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"People thought that they were getting the next Reagan."

Where does this come from?

The need, always constantly, to compare this guy to that guy?

It isn't true.

There is only one of everyone including people with genetic matches, because the experiences each have are 100% totally unique in every way save the most mundane labels.

Guildofcannonballs said...

"C'mon, he would be a shit president."

That's then; this is now.

C'mon, you know.

Dad Bones said...

Trump has done a great job of publicizing certain issues and pointing out things that professional politicians can't afford to say. Otherwise the Republicans don't have a single candidate who could beat Hillary, Joe or Bernie, who all want to give the voters some more free stuff and who seem to want to give it to anybody in the world who can get over here to collect it.

Trump's joy and anger resonates with a lot of people. Even if he bails out and goes back to paying off politicians to get his stuff built he will at least have made some points. Nothing will have been lost. There isn't another Republican, even if they're decent people, who stands a chance of upsetting the Democrats' free apple cart.

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Trooper York said...

Just what we need. They had their narcissistic demagogue and now we get ours.

It's about tribes.

Trooper York said...

When you play nice you get one of the usual suspects you get Mitt Romney and Mitch the Bitch McConnell.who can't do anything about anything.

It's time to blow it up. Go strong or go home. The Republican Party has outlived its usefulness if it can't do something as basic as stopping murderers from chopping up babies to sell for spare parts. When they conspire with Obama to change the rules on how treaties are approved so Iran can get the bomb. They are useless drones who are only concerned about their power.

We need to shake it up big time. Trump might be bad but he can't be worse.

Trooper York said...

I agree with Chip on one thing. Ted Cruz is just about the only other oneI could really support. If Trump clears the way for him by bashing Jeb and deflating a Walker then he has done a very valuable service.

Amartel said...

Trump's ability to speak over the MSM/establishment noise is brilliant and useful and reassuring but that does not mean he would be a good president or even conservative. Just because he's popular now for giving voice to conservative concerns does not mean he'll keep doing that. It doesn't mean anything outside of the moment because there's no clear ideology behind the rhetoric. I'll go back to the Arnold Schwarzenegger comparison which I brought up weeks ago; tt's the same basic celebrity personality that does NOT like to be unpopular. I was really jazzed about Arnold when he brought down Gray Davis mid-term. It was awesome, the rhetorical points that were scored ... good times!, and we did get a couple of good judges out of it and kept some bad legislation from moving forward immediately but, ultimately, Arnold wussied out because he (1) was poorly advised and tried to do too much at once, and (2) could not stand the brutal heat of politics. He turned into a enviro nut and Cali ran right back to big momma State and elected Jerry fargin' Brown. Fail, fail, fail.

I DISAGREE that it's "our turn" to have "our" crazy guy from "our" tribe. 1. He's not "our" guy any more than Obama was "their" guy, no matter what the fawning Obama fanboi cultmembers keep repeating from their MSM issued scripts. He's leaving them in a shambles and with nothing, nothing of substance to actually HELP the cultists. They're worse off than they were before. "Words, just words" and wind and an additional $1 trill in debt. 2. No more self-serving narcissists in charge, please. This is just common sense. 3. No more tribes. That's progressive talk, the hyphenators, classists, dividers, special rules for fancy people folk. Fuck that noise. This is still America.

We do, in fact, have a lot to lose so we do not have the freedom to pretend (at least based on what we've seen so far) that Trump should be president.

That being said, I do like the guy tremendously.

Amartel said...

$10 trill

Not a robot.

rcocean said...

Look, if you like the status quo then keep attacking Trump, you'll end up with Yeb or Kasich or someone other Romney-Dole-McCain type who even if they win will just be more of the same.

Anytime any politician says what people like, and the establishment doesn't like, then he's a labeled a "demagogue". So, support the establishment = normal. Don't support the establishment = demagogue.

I'll take the demagogue.

rcocean said...

And I knew if I made a comment about Bush I's non-macho persona, someone would bring up his military service.

Needless to say, I'm talking about Yeb and Bush I's public persona. I'm sure there are some Vets who look and act like Wally Cox (remember him?) but are war heroes. But they aren't running for political office.

Amartel said...

I can abhor the status quo and be leery of voting for Trump both at the same time! He's not the only option.

Trooper York said...

Trump might be bad but he can't be worse.

Trooper York said...

We don't have a lot to lose. If the Democrats or a Rhino gets elected it is the same shit different day. We gain nothing. Look at the Republican Congress. What exactly is different now that we elected them. Uh gotz.

You can pretend that America is about assimilation and that we are all in this together but you are fooling yourself. We need to give back to the Democrats what they gave us the last eight years. Good and hard. Drill everything. Revoke regulations by executive order. Overturn every bullshit decision of the Court. Disregard the rules. They are broken and can't be fixed. Because if the Republican abide by the rules the next time the Democrats are in charge they are going to disregard them. Wake up.

The time for nice guys are over. We need a nasty scumbag to do the popular thing. You can't find a nastier scumbag than Mr. Trump.

Amartel said...

Wide awake, Strawman. So why should I jump on some twitchy unpredictable celebrity's bandwagon just because he's saying (some of) the right things? For now. Until his entertainment value wears thin and the MSM really goes full Palin on him. This is the question that all the LIVs should have been asking themselves in 2007-08 but were too busy swooning over their perfect boyfriend's glistening manboobs and learning how to march in lockstep and read from the official script. Feh. They're ALL (on the R side) saying (some of) the right things.

Amartel said...

Also, this scenario where the big strong man comes in and firebombs the bureaucracy and drills for oil under the White House and the villagers cheer - who needs to wake up?

Trooper York said...

Don't you know how you negotiate? You take an extreme position that you know will never fly. And stick to it. That's what Trump is. The extreme. Then you gradually work to get what is acceptable. Like Ted Cruz.

But I tell you what is not acceptable. McConnell, the Speaker, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, John Kasich or any of the other quisling Republicans. Don't give me that detectability bullshit. That hasn't worked the last two times what makes you think it is going to work now.

Trump is a means to an end.

The end of the Republican Party if it doesn't stand up for our concerns.

Trooper York said...

The Mainstream Media can't Palin them because Trump doesn't care. He has nothing to lose. We have nothing to lose. If Jeb Bush is the candidate we have already lost.

Trump might be bad but he can't be worse.

Trooper York said...

That was electibility bullshit. Not detectability. That is where you try to detect a pulse on the walking corpses that are Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Rand Paul and all the rest of these mental midgets.

You have to want it. You have to take it. If they can't take Trump what makes you think they can take the Clinton machine?

rcocean said...

What's funny is Trump is more electable then the other Establishment losers. And as for him being a "secret democrat" I thought it was all about reaching the "Moderates"? Who better to get those "Moderates" then a secret "moderate"?

The fact is, the establishment hates Trump because of what he's saying about immigration and a whole bunch of stuff. They had every taped solid for Bush - it was a lock, and then Trump upset their Apple cart. Now, they only thing they hate more than Trump are the people who support him, aka about 40% of Republican party.

rcocean said...

Select 1 for English
Select 2 for Yeb

Trooper York said...

People talk about throwing your vote away if you vote for Trump. You are really throwing your vote away if you give it to a Rhino like Bush.

Why not ride it out and see if we can force a change? What have we got to lose?

If Bush or Kasich or Christie or one of these other midgets get the nomination we have lost anyway.