'Running circles around' sounded good. That's all.
Andrea Mitchell tries to defend Hillary through her blandly general semi-truisms and Fiorina delivers sharp specifics to the contrary. Example question:
She's had a lifetime, though, in public service. Going back to before she was first lady in Arkansas. She can argue that she's got a record of women's issues, from the Beijing Women's Conference to all of her work with the Children's Defense Fund going up through the senate, senator from New york, that's a record. Secretary of state. How do you compare yourself to her?
Oh boy. So much to Fisk so little time. Fiorina attacks Hillary Clinton's tenure at State.
It's also true that as secretary of state she took women's rights and human rights off the table for discussion with China. It's also true as secretary of state that she called Bashar al-Assad a “positive reformer.” It’s also true in 2011, when she was secretary of state, she said that Iraq was a “free, stable, sovereign nation” and now we have a nation falling apart, Iranian influence growing, ISIS growing. It’s true that she said that she could reset our Russia – our relationship with Russia and Vladimir Putin is on the march. So I think all of those things I just named go fundamentally to what is her track record.
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Someone ought to do a study of the facial expressions of "journalists" as they interview republicans so that they can be super-imposed or spliced together or what-not with their expressions when they interview democrats. Andrea Mitchell looks... I think that's called "looking daggers" at someone.
Andrea Mitchell is not a professional journalist.
"Hillary is so amazing, don't you think" ... that's not journalism, that's activism and bias and hack.
without the pro-democrat hack media to prop her up, old Hillary collapses. Andrea is just playing her role as pro-democrat hack tour guide.
I saw the video and I was expecting that Fiorina had, you know... messed up.
You thought I was going to say stumbled... didn't you?
Andrea Mitchell is an unpaid DNC employee. And while I like Fiorina, she did a terrible job as a Senate Candidate and drove HP into the ground.
Like Hillary, she only considered a serious POTUS candidate because she wears a dress.
And while I like Fiorina, she did a terrible job as a Senate Candidate and drove HP into the ground.
I just looked at HP's stock price from 2000 to 2012. It looks to me like HP did about as well as the S&P 500 did during her tenure.
I wonder if her style clashed with David Woodley Packard (son of the co-founder) and major shareholder. I've met Packard. He can be flakey.
For somebody to go from personal assistant to running the company... she has to have some of the right stuff.
Synova, the word I would use for that look on the face of "journalists" when confronted with inconvenient fact (or in this case a fact torrent) is "pinched." It's a sign that character assassination is imminent. Or incoherent screeching about the Koch brothers or the War on Women or some other topic reset. (There will be no substantive response to the fact so don't wait around for that.)
Well, hell. If forced to choose, I might prefer Carly to Andrea, too, which isn't saying much because that said, neither of them is an exemplar to me, and I wouldn't vote either of them even into the most local of office, including our neighborhood's civic association. I don't admire Andrea and I don't admire Carly. Over the course of their respective careers, each of them has destroyed value as opposed to building it. In that way those two really are quite similar.
The lady comes prepared, unlike Mr Uhhh.
One wonders, if people weren't so polite to him because of his color (or lack of it), how easy would it be to reduce him to a quivering lump of Jello.
chickelit said...
And while I like Fiorina, she did a terrible job as a Senate Candidate and drove HP into the ground.
I just looked at HP's stock price from 2000 to 2012. It looks to me like HP did about as well as the S&P 500 did during her tenure.
I wonder if her style clashed with David Woodley Packard (son of the co-founder) and major shareholder. I've met Packard. He can be flakey.
A couple of guys over at Insty tend to corroborate that view.
They contend Ms Fiorina gets a bad rap and several of the Powers That Were did everything they could to make her look bad.
YMMV
I've seen her speak a number of times now, and I'm very impressed.
I don't know her views well, so I'm not endorsing her, but she can handle herself well in a speech or hostile interview.
I was predisposed to be unimpressed, and was surprised.
Obviously, Fiorina does her homework.
Synova makes a great point. A universal one. Watch Katie Couric (for example) interview a Clinton or any Democrat - it's all smiles. Watch her interview any R - it's all frowns and snarls.
Fiorina is the sole opposition to recent to Hillary's newest assertions, vis a vis feminism, as recent as this week. My Gawd, do we not have any more women who can step up? If not, I'll go with Fiorina. He record at HP is not the disaster many say it was (look at it today under the shape Fiorina left it)...stock prices fell, board rebelled, etc. None-the-less, she was forward thinking.
AllenS is right...she does her homework.
It's official: You cease to amaze me.
I thought that "you cease to surprise me" would be the end of it.
But no.
I've had zero use for, for example, Katie Couric, for ages and ages (not to mention earlier ages ago: left her behind long, long ago, and make no mistake, before I ever got onto the modern 'net/web).
Still, that name crops up regularly. Why, I wonder. Not due to the likes of me, for sure.
I'm tempted to link videos, but firmly resist that temptation I will.
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