Wednesday, January 28, 2015
Ralph Peters: Obama Admin "Pressuring The Army To Whitewash" Bergdahl Fiasco
"If you let Bergdahl walk -- it's not about this pathetic little creep, Bergdahl, it's about the principle -- if you let him walk with full pay and benefits and a promotion despite overwhelming evidence that he deserted his post in wartime, you make it virtually impossible to prosecute future deserters."
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One more way for Hussein & Co. to demoralize the armed forces and the country in general.
Ralph Peters feels his umbrage at us.
What ricpic said, true enough, but this is only a by-product of Hussein & Co cravenly protecting their image in the Muslim world while simultaneously keeping their lefty base on the domestic front satisfied.
I though the commander in chief was not supposed to influence this kind of thing.
Just for the record, vis a vis media and Pentagon pronouncements (posted elsewhere):
This has become a bone of contention between the press and the Pentagon. Bergdahl has not yet been formally charged with desertion, but he has likely been notified that is possible. There are specific steps that must be taken, in the US Army, prior to formal charges. The retired LTC who said “a list of charges” had been presented to Bergdahl’s counsel is very likely correct. I suggest the Navy Admiral spokesman for the Pentagon consult Department of the Army Pamphlet 27–17, which is the Procedural Guide for Article 32(b) Investigating Officers. Bergdahl is Army, not Navy, so when the spokesperson Admiral says that “this is just not how things are done” I refer him to Chapter 2 of said Army Pamphlet, which stipulates what is to occur in preparation for an Article 32 Investigation….which is a necessary & required formality prior to a Court Marshall proceeding.
I don’t know, nor am I inclined to research it, if an AR 15-6 criminal investigation was conducted. In Bergdahl’s case it may not have been required to establish his status of present for duty or not. AR 15-6 investigations (usually with a Board of Inquiry) are normally held prior to Article 32 investigations in order to establish that criminality has occurred….particularly when duty status is not in contention, but other suspect malfeasance. I’ve been subject to AR 15-6 investigation and board of inquiry. Even at that discovery level I was presented with a list of potential events & charges….to which I responded with sworn statement(s) and testimony. Criminality was not established, not even close, so an Article 32 investigation was never convened.
In summary: Bergdahl and his attorney(s) are entitled to a list of potential charges under Article 32 and potential subsequent Court Marshall….and I have no doubt that they have in fact been provided them…it is the normal course of business per Department of the Army Pamphlet 27–17. The retired LTC is correct and the Navy Admiral spokesperson, at best, is hedging or deflecting…I doubt he is ignorant. He may be doing so, somewhat condescendingly, to parse the media’s assertion that charges have been filed…when the actual next step, once duty status is formally determined, is further deliberation (Article 32) and witness gathering prior to formal charges in a Court Marshall.
It is a fucking disgrace and I blame Lord Grantham for lowering the standards!
I shouldn't joke, it is just a fucking disgrace.
Prediction: They were about to formally charge Bergdahl with desertion but someone got wind of this and notified King Putt/Val and the charges were stayed pending their return to the U.S. at which time negotiations for favors in exchange for setting Bergy free will begin. Because the lives of the men who died trying to find Bergdahl don't matter; it's all about burnishing King Putt's image and legacy.
Shorter Summary vis a vis Bergdahl:
1. WHAT HAPPENED? Determination of malfeasance via AR 15-6 Board of Inquiry OR other means pertaining the issue, e.g., duty status via the chain of command.
2. BY WHOM? If #1 is accomplished and misconduct is determined, then an Article 32 investigation ensues, with potential charges provided to the potential defendant.
3. PROOFS? During Article 32 investigation witnesses and other evidence are identified.
4. SUBSTANTIATED CHARGES IDENTIFIED. Then brought by Court Marshall.
The Bergdahl affair is at step 2.
Obama will pardon Bergdahl. He has to to save his own face. He apparently doesn't give two shits about Army morale.
Evi L. Bloggerlady said...It is a fucking disgrace and I blame Lord Grantham for lowering the standards!
Stop with the DA spoilers!
So does Carson cave?
Never!
I just now plunked $500.00 on 4 patio planting containers.
The thing is, they must be large and they must be interesting and they cannot be trite nor ordinary. They can be old and damaged and appear to be collected junk, but they cannot be common and they cannot be plastic.
Finding this site was a big help at getting started. Now I don't have to worry, I can collect at my leisure and only accept things that fit (by being misfit and by being interesting) without rushing things now that the basic skeleton is established. These four new ones along with the five I already have are a very good start.
The idea is stack them where possible, checkerboard fashion to create walls where foliage overflows and obscures structure so that pieces and corners of architectural interest poke through. I want faces and portions of figures hidden among opulent extravagantly lavish cartoon-like planting combinations.
I've taken to combining the seed starter cups. Tomato and herb seeds started together. Chile and herbs started together. Vegetables and flowers combined in the same starter cups. Then all that mixed together in planters, flowers, foliage, vegetables and herbs all mixed together in pairs and triples and quadruples, whatever the containers will bear.
Then see what happens given available direct sunlight.
That seems like a lot of dinero just for four cement pots but then I think about the education I am getting and I am comforted by how much I already spent for credentialed education and how little there is to show for all that immense effort and cost and by making that comparison it all becomes quite cheap indeed. I do not see them as cement pots, I see them as education.
Like everything else.
The white washing of scandals is the hallmark of this administration and the administration's media water-carriers.
They wanted this to quietly go away.
The fact we're talking about it says the Army wants to embarrass the Choom Gang good and hard.
@Aridog/
Note: Things don't necessarily have to progress past Art 32 to Courts Martial. An individual can also be given an "administrative" discharge under Art 32 which may be anything from honorable status to dishonorable and all gradients in between..
virgil xenophon....I was trying to be brief, concise and succinct. I am aware that "administrative discipline" is possible at each step short of the Court Marshall itself.
I apologize for skipping that part in the effort. It is just that so many pundits have made an issue of "charges filed" when, to the best of my knowledge, if they are following Army protocol, they have not yet been laid. The retired LTC who spoke of potential charges being provided to the potential defendant was correct. Once the Art 32 work is done, the procedure will be whatever the command determines appropriate. I suspect they will not convene a Court Marshall, but apply administrative discipline....in one form or another as you have said.
The UCMJ is barely understandable to the average guy....thus pundit confusion over "charges filed" versus "potential charges" notified to defendant counsel.
I received the same notifications in my own AR 15-6 investigation, a step way before Article 32. 20 line items to which I had to respond, under oath, before the board. Happily, for me & another sergeant, the board decided they had nothing and adjourned the proceedings...the issues were still there, but the persons actually involved in the malfeasance, on about half the line items, were to too high in rank in 1971 to be pursued without political problems. The other line items were more or less spurious.
virgil xenophon ...I should add that in my case in my sworn testimony to the Board of Inquiry I also provided proofs of each and every line item I disputed. I had contemporaneous records and documentation for everything I swore to, regarding myself and the other sergeant, which no doubt helped persuade the Board to adjourn....e.g., not get past step one. I assure you that a few 06's, 07's, and 08's were also delighted with the adjournment...e.g., sergeants usually follow orders, rather than go off on tangents of their own :-)
Of course a traitor as president would let a deserter walk. Shit, he'd probably show up so they can walk out of Leavenworth arm-in-arm with each other. This is a sick and twisted human being we have for a president.
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