"Harry Reid spoke about the Obamacare "horror stories" on the Senate floor this morning. He said that "all are untrue."
"Despite all that good news, there's plenty of horror stories being told. All of them are untrue, but they're being told all over America," said Reid.
"The leukemia patient whose insurance policy was canceled [and] could die without her medication, Mr. President, that's an ad being paid for by two billionaire brothers. It's absolutely false. Or the woman whose insurance policy went up $700 a month--ads paid for around America by the multibillionaire Koch brothers, and the ad is false. READ MORE
Video of Senator Reid's remarks at the links.
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My insurance premiums increased by 20%, so I guess I'm lucky.
Ten more payments, then Medicare.
That will cut several hundred bucks from my expenses.
The inflation of basic goods and services caused by Obama's suppression of the oil, gas and coal industries probably hits Old Dawgz like me even harder.
We're in the midst of an oil and gas boom, and the Democrats are determined to keep that oil and gas from making it to market. Incredible stupidity.
Reid is an evil man.
I am a bit surprised they have the chutzpah to (1) call complaining citizens liars and (2) have the IRS "require employers who terminate employees to show that they did so for “bona fide business reasons” in order to be eligible for delaying the ObamaCare health insurance employer mandate.
@Pogo
Economic stagnation seems to be the Democrat's plan.
Gotta wonder how long before the Dems trot out the last desperate remedy of failed tyrants... wage and price controls.
If reality won't conform to you aspirations, decree reality from above.
...and Tom Harkin(D) sings the praises of the Cuban Communist health care system.
The Dems got their hands on a gold mine of patronage, corruption and campaign loot when they took over the healthcare industry.
Nothing will pry those goodies out of their hands.
Harry Reid and Rachel Maddow have the "Blame the Koch Brothers" line 100% coordinated.
Lock Hsrry in a room with my sister, her husband, and their 4 kids who've been brought to tears by the loss of their insurance, followed by the Obamacare application process and ultimate cost, and maybe he'd get a clearer picture (and make more compassionate statements from his ER gurney).
"...my sister, her husband, and their 4 kids who've been brought to tears by the loss of their insurance,"
They better not say anything about it though.
The IRS may require them to prove their tears occurred for “bona fide economic reasons” related to ObamaCare, and not some other social stressor.
Reid is a vile human being who will tell any lie in order to advance his party's agenda.
Remember his "why should I care about that?" remark year ago when told of a dying child whose medicines would not be covered by ObamaCare? Vile.
"Those pictures of tanks rolling through Baghdad were taken by the infidels, Mr. President. Those pictures are false, and we are winning the battles against the Great Satan!"
Interesting the similarities, no? Harry seems to be lacking of arguments that have any validity to his claims that the ads are false..
@Leland
Perfect.
To point out that these people are being used politically is one thing... but to say that their stories are made up is reprehensible.
A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck. To say to them, Not only are you going to pay more, you are going to pay for things you may not even want or need... like a 57 year old man with maternity coverage.
It is nearing the time when must consider eliminating the Imperial City's politicos including longtime elected officials from both parties and MSM's Pravda imitators.
"All that...
All of them...
All over..."
Would that all this would happen and be true!
Use of three all's in one sentence is the tell, taking it beyond exaggeration into lie.
I hear the Wehrmacht took Moscow the other day, too.
To call ALL the Obamacare horror stories "untrue" on the floor of the Senate is a risky strategy.
All the opposition has to do is find ONE horror story that checks out in detail (you can guarantee that Fox News has producers on it right now), and Reid ends up looking like a heartless brute who'll throw all the ObamaCare schlubs under the bus so he doesn't have to admit that he & his fellow Dems screwed the pooch.
Reid's speech will be featured in many a Republican attack ad this election cycle.
Shouting Thomas said...
My insurance premiums increased by 20%, so I guess I'm lucky.
Ten more payments, then Medicare.
That will cut several hundred bucks from my expenses.
Uh,...no you will see little change once on Medicare, except the additional $104 you pay for Part B. Do not be a fool and skip part B. Presuming you keep a supplemental insurance to cover the giant f'ing gaps in Medicare...your cost for the supplement will be at least as much (likely more) as that for your full insurance now.
How do I know this? I've been there, done that, still doing it. My supplement costs twice what it did as full insurance (mostly thanks to the PPACA)....plus the added $104 for Medicare Part B.
I am comforted to know that I am indeed covered should I get pregnant...at 71 YOA :-))
The funny thing is how Reid started out as a right-of-the-center-of-the-party Democrat. Supposedly pro-life, supposedly a typical old-West leave-me-alone middle-of-the-roader. And yet, after he became Minority Leader, his supposed independent stances fell by the wayside, and he became the party-banner mannikin, without any sense of moral agency or capacity for judgment. He turned into an avatar of the party, "the huge voice, metal, that lies from a thousand tubes", and so quickly, too.
To call ALL the Obamacare horror stories "untrue" on the floor of the Senate is a risky strategy.
It's also unwittingly asking people to come forward. Dumb.
I'm sure there are a lot of people with worst stories to tell, who haven't come forward, for one reason or another.
My supplement costs twice what it did as full insurance (mostly thanks to the PPACA)....plus the added $104 for Medicare Part B.
In addition, your suppliment to Medicare is the ONLY insurance now that CAN be adjusted higher for existing medical condiditions.
So. If you don't sign up for Part B at $107 a month, you get a 10% penalty for each year and it will cost you more when you do sign up. If you don't sign up for Part D (drug coverage) even if you don USE any drugs, you have a penalty every year.
A Medicare Sup plan, the J plan, will cost us $157 a month. IF you want to try to save some money now because you are not needing all that coverage and sign up for a lesser plan.....you are screwed later.....because you can ONLY change from a similar or LESSER coverage plan. You are NOT allowed to change your coverage.
So....in a few months when my husband is "eligible" for Medicare, we will have to go from a paying in cash for services program which costs us probably a total of $800 a YEAR to a MANDATORY or else you get fines program of $290 a month or $3840. When I am forced into the system, I will go from an annual medical cost of ZERO or thereabouts to $290. For a grand total of $7680 a year. We are still working and can afford this. Others just can't do it.
I know one person who DID sign up for Covered California and got the subsidy because of low income and is supposed to only pay a few dollars a month. Next year when he is eligible (forced) into Medicare his insurance he will go from $4 to $107 + part D or $290 (if he chooses a supplement) He can't afford any of this.
When IS the revolution?
Nice.
To call ALL the Obamacare horror stories "untrue" on the floor of the Senate is a risky strategy.
On top of it, he later goes on to twitter to back track his claim by saying, well maybe not all of them (and he clarifies this as only "Koch ads") are deceptive. The nitwit backtracked on the Kochs, but still left open unapologetically that the actual victims here are liars.
I referred to oil because oil products are the Koch Bros. biz.
They employ over 10,000 people at good jobs.
The Obama people work diligently to demonize the productive sector of the economy.
I've always liked Bagoh's idea about health care - it should operate like Amazon.
The left think that a tiered system is the way to go. A Cadillac program for the DC insiders-- restricted over-priced crap for the rest of us. Like in Cuba.
Tax-payer funded get in line ask the government permission first and hope that whoever the current leftwing dictator is in the oval office that they take pity on you and allow you to have access to the treatments you need.
Are you democrat donor? that might help your chances. Press 1 to give now.
MamaM quoted...
"All that...
All of them...
All over..."
The German translation is revealing:
Alle, die ...
Alle von ihnen ...
Alles über ..
I would pay dearly for a ringside seat at a Koch Bros. vs. George Soros boxing matchup instead of proxy fight.
Wait...I already am.
chick, nothing sounds innocuous translated into German. You could be wishing someone long life and robust health, and it'll come out with spittle, sounding like you've insulted their parentage, questioned their sexuality, and cursed their mustaches.
Please, do no miss this.
Learning this week in glancing that Koch Bros are 59th on the list of donors came in handy immediately. A person brought up Koch Bros in conversation, utterly non sequitur as if pulling some profound insight into the conversation, I said now that you bring in this meaningless shibboleth I know what I'm dealing with (a retard) and that put an end to that line of attack, that distraction, that way of goofing a discussion.
Reid is goofing the discussion. It's what liberals do. He's grasping at straws because that's all he has, straw to grasp. He's desperate now dismissing everyone, ALL stories are bullshit now under his bullshit rubric Koch bros. That is how desperate the top Senator has become.
The cartoon that shows itself is Reid (named for his own voice) standing there holding two clumps of scraggly straw, at his podium aside a desperately poorly stuffed demonstration scarecrow.
Thanks for the link to the Rubio video, April Apple. Wow. Do you think it will put him back in the running for 2016?
I have no idea, Lydia. Rubio knows the truth about Cuba and Harkin got schooled.
You should listen to what Rubio was responding to. Rubio was responding to a freaking moron. Tom Harkin(D) sang the praises of communist style health care in Cuba. Rush played the audio of Harkin on his radio show yesterday and I happened to catch it. I had to pull off the road and vomit.
Tom Harkin(D) of Iowa should be laughed off the stage. He is a disgrace.
Harkin basically said "when you get pregnant in Cuba, the state comes to you and feeds you and makes sure you don't smoke and the state is right there with you until you give birth...." It was unreal. Then he rambled on about free education and free doctors and free this and free that... standard economic ignorance from a leftist.
Harkin was fed propaganda in Cuba and he ate it up like a good democrat fascist.
Here's the Cuba that Harkin(D) didn't see.
April Apple,
I opened my newspaper yesterday to find this story staring me in the face about our local healthcare "leaders":
A group of government, hospital, academic and public-health leaders from the Akron area recently traveled to Cuba to learn ways to improve local medical care.
Why Cuba?
“What I wanted to do was put together a trip that would focus on taking people from the community here… to Cuba to get a sense of how a poor country has managed to actually create a health system that actually has the same health status of the United States — and they do it for a lot less money,” said trip organizer Dr. C. William Keck, former director of health for the city of Akron and a past president of the American Public Health Association.
I thought to myself, that's kind of like going to the set of General Hospital to find out how to run a hospital efficiently. It's easy if everything's a fictional show! Unfreakinbelievable.
Golly, even a journalist at Al Jazeera sees things more clearly than Harkin et al.:
"By the time I moved to Cuba in 1997, there were serious shortages of medicine - from simple aspirin to more badly needed drugs.
Ironically, many medicines that cannot be found at a pharmacy are easily bought on the black market. Some doctors, nurses and cleaning staff smuggle the medicine out of the hospitals in a bid to make extra cash.
Although medical attention remains free, many patients did and still do bring their doctors food, money or other gifts to get to the front of the queue or to guarantee an appointment for an X-ray, blood test or operation.
If you do not have a contact or money to pay under the table, the waiting time for all but emergency procedures can be ridiculously long.
Many Cubans complain that top-level government and Communist Party officials have access to VIP health treatment, while ordinary people must queue from dawn for a routine test, with no guarantee that the allotted numbers will not run out before it is their turn.
And while the preventative healthcare system works well for children, women over the age of 40 are being shortchanged because yearly mammograms are not offered to the population at large.
I saw many hospitals where there was often no running water, the toilets did not flush, and the risk of infections - by the hospital's own admission - was extremely high."
Democrats want us all as poor as those in Cuba. They see that as paradise.
Cuba's Potemkin Village Healthcare is just what the doctor ordered for democrats.
Democrats just want Americans to die ... quietly. H/t Alan Grayson, D(ouchebag), FL. Horrible Harry is awful and hideous and vile but at least he's openly so unlike that pussy in the White House who tells lies because he gets off on being the hero of the stupid.
It's funny how the more powerful you get in DC, the further to the left you tilt. Boehner and Reid used to be conservative by their respective parties' standards.
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