Monday, November 25, 2013

Summing Up the Iran Agreement


24 comments:

Michael Haz said...

No wonder there were celebrations on the streets of Teheran.

ndspinelli said...

Israel knows they are alone w/ this corrupt Chicago gang in the WH.

Aridog said...

Why is there any surprise that Obama, and his representative Kerry, got "punked" again?

BTW ... the "deal" is not an Article II Treaty with the United States party to it, as most non-proliferation agreements are...it is nothing but a sniveling response to a cynical mother-may-I by Iran, who will do as they please anyway..and the 6 month term assures it.

In most views, this sham has no legal standing. Just as intended, of course. Kerry should get his 4th Purple Heart for this due to the hemorrhaging from his pounded anal crevice.

virgil xenophon said...

LEAN FORWARD!

test said...

Aridog said...
Why is there any surprise that Obama, and his representative Kerry, got "punked" again?


The negotiator who stands to lose the most is at a major disadvantage. Somehow without even being a primary party to the conflict our representatives manage to act as if that's us. Primarily this is a result of hubris: our "leaders" desire to be seen as the one driving the peace in order to further their legacy.

Kerry's a fool, his people are fools, and Clinton was a fool before him.

Shouting Thomas said...

Perhaps this is the beginning of the end for our domestic alliance between Jews and blacks.

Jews glommed onto blacks as political allies because blacks are the "enemies of our enemies" for Jews. That shared enemy is the goyim who are presumed to be only a step away from resurrecting the Third Reich in America.

Unfortunately, blacks have always been brutally anti-semitic, although they gleefully accept the swag produced by the erstwhile political alliance with Jews.

Obama seems to be enacting the black side of the agenda here, by undermining Israel in favor of a Moslem state, which is closer in ideology to that of U.S. black leadership. (Louis Farrakhan and the National of Islam are power players in Chicago!)

Aridog said...

Let me quote Professor Ingrid Wuerth on another aspect of this "deal":

On the question of whether this agreement is binding, it will be interesting to see whether Congress is notified of the agreement pursuant to the Case-Zablocki Act. That Act requires the Secretary of State to “transmit to the Congress the text of any international agreement (including the text of any oral international agreement, which agreement shall be reduced to writing), other than a treaty, to which the United States is a party as soon as practicable after such agreement has entered into force with respect to the United States…” But under the relevant federal regulations, the statute only applies to agreements for which “the parties” “intend their undertaking to be legally binding, and not merely of political or personal effect.”

ricpic said...

All those billions given to the Iranian mullahs: your tax dollars at work.

test said...

ricpic said...
All those billions given to the Iranian mullahs: your tax dollars at work.


I suspect these amounts are us unfreezing external bank accounts in the US and Europe, not amounts we're giving them.

Aridog said...

Also interesting....

The "Catch 22" foot note, literally the last line of text in the agreement document is this:

* With respect to the final step and any steps in between, the standard principle that "nothing is agreed until
everything is agreed" applies.

edutcher said...

If you like your Agreed Framework, you can keep your Agreed Framework.

The Choom Gang is so desperate for anything to work, they'll take something that only looks like a success to the low intel voters.

Methadras said...

Who needs friends when Iran already has them in the White House. I don't think traitorism even applies anymore to these people. They've gone beyond that completely at this point.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

You would not want John Kerry as your lawyer...unless of course you wanted to lose.

Leland said...

Good News: The western world community that praised Obama with a Peace Prize now knows what a lightweight intelligence they have in Obama.

Bad News: The rest of the world now realizes how easy it is to manipulate Obama for their own interest.

Syria gets Russian guards to protect their WMD installations from rebels.

Iran gets 6 months of unfettered use of its centrifuges.

What's next? China gets to annex the Shenkaku islands? Argentina gets the Maldives? Vietnam gets Truong Sa lon? Germany gets the Czech Republic?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Argentina gets the Maldives?

Sure, why the hell not? The Maldives are in the Indian Ocean.


Did you mean the Falkland Islands, also known as, Islas Malvinas?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

BTW, Obama already telegraphed how he would go on that by referring to the Falklands as Islas Malvinas...

Oh wait, Obama called them Maldives too...

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

That's right! There shouldn't have been any agreement to use for holding them to account! Yee-haw!

Why are you so often the first to comment on your own posts, Haz?

Apparently this gang here thinks the best way to achieve America's interest is to have them dictated to us from the office of Israel's right-wing prime minister. So why don't you all emigrate? Problem solved!

Michael Haz said...

Why are you so often the first to comment on your own posts, Haz?


So that I an click the email box and receive everyone's replies in my inbox during times when I'm not at the computer.

William said...

People are so quick to judge. I feel certain that historians will not judge Obamacare to be Obama's signature debacle but more like his opening act.......I don't think anyone in the Middle East is capable of acting in their rational self interest. It should be remembered that Iraq and Iran brought poison gas back to warfare after an interregnum of three generations. And special props to Iran for using its children to clear minefields. Spare the minefield and spare the child. I don't think this diminishes the odds of Iran getting a nuclear weapon, but their history is so erratic and self destructive that there's a possibility that they'll use it on the Bahais before the Jews.

Trooper York said...

Obama is just playing the knockout game.

He went and punched a whole nation full of Jews in the head.

Revenant said...

That's right! There shouldn't have been any agreement to use for holding them to account!

You mean like the Non-Proliferation Treaty Iran has been a signatory to for decades? :)

"We're not going to hold you to account for THAT agreement, but here's a NEW agreement. We totes plan to hold you to account for THIS one!"

Smart diplomacy!

Leland said...

Oh, let's play Ritmo's kindergarden game: "Apparently Ritmo thinks the best way to achieve America's interest is to have them dictated by a country that held our embassy hostage for 444 days."

How did that workout for Jimmeh, Ritmo?

Leland said...

Oh wait, Obama called them Maldives too...

Yes he did. Isn't he just dreamy intelligent? Ritmo like carrying Obama's water.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You mean like the Non-Proliferation Treaty Iran has been a signatory to for decades? :)

What's the enforcement mechanism on that one and how is it superior to the stipulations just agreed to, Sir Blackstone?