Anil Dash's Ten Rules of Internet are getting a fair amount of attention recently.
I find Rule #6 and the second bonus rule particularly interesting in light of recent events. Applicable? Maybe.
What happens if a person breaks a rule? The internet will count to ten?
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 577 of 577"A little premature there, bago."
So you were faking it again?
The Day FU needs to begin with a viewing of Monty Puthon's disc slapping dance to set the proper tone.
Stupid iPhone,
Monty Python.
Fish slapping dance.
I think you have me confused with someone else.
We kid because we love you, phx. And for the record, phx has never explicitly propositioned me.
No, but I keep your avatar as my wallpaper.
deborah, people that don't want to participate can simply skip it. Just like reading "J"'s posts over at TOP, easily ignored by those that want to.
What is TOP?
A place to vent? Interesting.
Deborah makes a good point, however.
It'd be a wretched hive of scum and villainy, to be sure, but if it was the no-rules forum that would give more reason to hold firm to a commenting decorum in other threads.
I'd be for it, if it were to be accompanied by a basic expectations for other posts. Namely, no name calling or other ad hominems.
People could vent, and people do sometimes need to throw things or yell, or crash about.
It'd be this blogs version of taking it outside. People who don't care to wallow wouldn't show up in there.
It'd should also be accompanied by a "don't take it personal" rule. Like boxing or British Parliament.
We could have a jazz band playing tunes in the background.
TOP = The Other Place = Althouse
I think that's it.
Hell, we could make another blog entirely:
The Daily FU
"Where we always take it personally!"
The Daily FU, I like it. It will be just like reading Trooper's blog!
Internet Cage MATCH!!!
Who's ready to rumble!!!
Can we have a betting thread? Take odds.
Ohhhh.
Well, what can I say. Lem has made statements alluding to being nice, being pleasant to Meadhouse, having this be a civil place, and now 'we' are considering a brawling pit. Don't like it. I've seen how things turned out at TOP for the last five years, and it is idiotic. If people want blood and guts there are other, more popular places, that are better at it.
@ Paddy. I like the idea. Here is the daily F/U thread and we have the rest of the blog to be civil.
Never work, because the F/U thread would leak all over everything. But still a cool idea.
Deborah -
"What could be finer than going back to the Althouse smack down atmosphere?"
It's already starting.
"Do you think bad feelings would be contained to those 'isolated threads?"
Worked with the Cherokees and the Souix didn't it?
"They would infect the comraderie in the rest of this blog that you're trying to bring about."
Maybe, but I choose to dream happy dreams.
Okay, Deborah et al are probably correct that it will leak into other threads.
Which just makes me think it ought to be a separate blog altogether!
So it would be like that move "The Purge"
"In an America wracked by crime, the government has sanctioned an annual 12-hour period in which any and all criminal activity—including murder—is legal. The police can’t be called. Hospitals suspend help. It is one night when the citizenry regulates itself without thought of punishment."
I agree with deborah. It's a terrible idea and a dangerous one. Wasn't there enough blood and guts on Alhouse? Would the bleeding ooze over onto other threads? What was accomplished by such brawling at Althouse?
Instead of a daily F/U thread aimed at internecine warfare, how about an F/T (fuck this) thread aimed at topics or issues. Don't attack a person, just vent about something that you find completely outrageous. Kind of like the yelling I used to do at the TV screen during the debates. No one can respond to the commenter.
"What was accomplished by such brawling at Althouse?"
It certainly seemed to be better than sex to some people.
I know, Rabel, you're a happy warrior :)
It's already starting.
Yes, and it will be hard enough to maintain decorum in regular threads without creating a madhouse on purpose.
"What was accomplished by such brawling at Althouse?"
For one thing it gave her a good excuse to get rid of us all.
I very much am leaning towards deborah's perspective, because I agree with her arguments.
A cocktail lounge has a different audience than a dive. They're both trying to attract an audience.
But not everyone is like me or deborah, and this is a place with a broader audience.
And venting happens even with the best intention. If you don't have a bathroom or an outhouse, people still relieve themselves.
Maybe not have a slam-fest every night. Maybe every couple of nights. That way the threads could smolder for a bit and it wouldn't be a constant presence of negativity.
A much too large portion of my brain is filled with scathing and vulgar personal insults that I have withheld from using over the last few blogging years.
They want to be free.
The voices of decorum are pulling me more and more to their side.
It would leak. It would fester. Because people don't seem able to not take it personally, even if they seem to at first, it erupts later on.
I believe that whatever fucked up the AA comments section must have gone on in one of those hideously long politico-cultural gay marriage posts
After several months of posts on SSM, when the Supreme Court cases were decided, she engaged in some taunting for a few days ("losers!") and then when people failed to simply surrender on the issue, she became increasingly pissy. And when she continued, doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down on the bile, and people pushed back, then she had her tantrum, picked up her ball and went home. Then it has been several days of rants about how the commenters all sucked, together with some self-serving sycophantic comments from a few.
Instead of a daily F/U thread aimed at internecine warfare, how about an F/T (fuck this) thread aimed at topics or issues. Don't attack a person, just vent about something that you find completely outrageous. Kind of like the yelling I used to do at the TV screen during the debates. No one can respond to the commenter.
I like it...like Dennis Miller rants.
Rabel, may I suggest trepanation?
It's a joke.
"A cocktail lounge has a different audience than a dive."
They both have a Red Room in the back. Just a little harder to get into the one in the lounge.
After several months of posts on SSM, when the Supreme Court cases were decided, she engaged in some taunting for a few days ("losers!") and then when people failed to simply surrender on the issue, she became increasingly pissy. And when she continued, doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down on the bile, and people pushed back, then she had her tantrum, picked up her ball and went home. Then it has been several days of rants about how the commenters all sucked, together with some self-serving sycophantic comments from a few.
Why would I doubt that that's an objective recapitulation of what exactly happened?
"may I suggest trepanation?"
Been there. Done that.
Can't we just watch videos of mud wrestling?
"They want to be free."
Doll, I hear ya. This nice gal image I attempt to maintain wears ragged at times, and is muy difficile. (Are you a guy or gal, please?)
(Fiona, I work alone.)
"No one can respond the commenter". Now that is brilliant!
Sorry deborah. I'll tr to find something to disagree with you on.
We could play the dozens?
No, fiona, just go away.
Yo Mama. I'm not going anywhere.
I'm a most manly man, but the avatar confuses some people.
Occasionally I get extra AA points from others by being perceived as a female. I can see you could get used to that in real life.
BTW I went to that avatar as an unspoken and deniable mockery of Althouse on one of her bad days.
I don't know if she ever got it.
Stick around fionamcgee.
I plan to Phx. I have a role to play here. Every village needs a scold. Village idiot role is still open, any takers?
It's a joke.
Yeah, you started with that tv housekeeper avatar, then switched to this one, but you said particularly male things at times.
It'd should also be accompanied by a "don't take it personal" rule.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Bwah ha ha ha ha!
Oh... ha ha.
Heh.
lol Freeman.
Yeah, it's not like we need more conservatives who are appalled by the very idea that someone doesn't see how incredibly rational and non-emotional they are, just by virtue of their being conservatives!
Variety is the spice of life. ~~That's what the judge is gonna tell my wife.~~
Why would I doubt that that's an objective recapitulation of what exactly happened?
So you are either calling me dishonest or biased. Why the personal attack? You spend all day whining and crying about folks being mean to you, and then you go and throw stones yourself.
I'm down with the FU (though it wasn't FU! Oh, never mind...) thread. Natch.
I have had a few beers.
More uninteresting avatar history -
The housekeeper (Hazel) came up when Warren Buffet's secretary was in the news. I thought she looked like Hazel the first time I saw her. I also learned that Hazel was a redhead. We were B&W back then. It was kind of a shock.
After that the color just made it easy to spot. Plus I liked hazel.
Instead of a daily F/U thread aimed at internecine warfare, how about an F/T (fuck this) thread aimed at topics or issues
YES... like why Twinkies really suck because the filling is too bland why and you can't make a decent pie crust or make really good fried chicken in Crisco because for some demented reason they decided that the small amount of hydrogenated oils that we have used for generations were banned. What is it to them if we want to eat what we want to eat?? ...stay out of the fuck of kitchen...oh...ummmm .....
Ohhh... did I get on my soapbox??
F/T Topic #102
:-D
So you are either calling me dishonest or biased. Why the personal attack?
That's pretty good when you call someone on an obviously subjective report they cry "personal attack!"
Some of you wouldn't know a fallacy if it bit you in the ass and yet you try to school us - well, me.
Read a book.
"Twinkies really suck"
Let's leave Titus out of it, OK?
OK, so after whimpering all day long, then questioning my veracity rather than simply providing your own factual account of the last two week at the crash site, now you prove again you're just a punk.
You spend all day whining and crying about folks being mean to you, and then you go and throw stones yourself.
That too is a ridiculous recapitulation of what happened. I hope to God you never think you witnessed a crime.
Couldn't think of the name Hazel...kept thinking Harriet, but it didn't sound right.
DBQ, I detest new crisco. It's not as firm as it used to be and doesn't taste the same when you put it a little bit on your tongue.
now you prove again you're just a punk.
Sure bender. Punk it is.
DBQ - lol...
And why the HELL everything I like to eat... causes cancer. Yesterday it was good for you. Today? Rot you with tumors. What. The. Hell?
Actually, Trooper's nickname is Twinkie.
Here's a clue though: when you use emotive or loaded language, it's okay for someone to say you aren't likely being objective. That's not a personal attack.
The F/U F/T thread should have a rule that none of the edging can bleed into other threads. What happens in F stays in F.
I don't mind Twinkies. But if the filling in Twinkies is the same as the filling in Ding Dongs, it sure doesn't taste the same. Ding Dongs are so good.
If I wasn't objective, then simply provide us with your factual account. No need to characterize my version. Give us yours. What really happened?
fionamcgee said...
I plan to Phx. I have a role to play here. Every village needs a scold.
Didn't the village scold usually end up getting drowned as a witch?
Or betrayed to the Inquisition?
Or was it the Committee for Public Safety?
Chances of there ever being an "F/U" thread approach 0%.
I am not going to get into the Twinkie, ding dong, creamy filling pit. I am not going to get into the Twinkie, ding dong, creamy filling pit. I am not...
It, it, it. I hate autocorrect, fuck that too.
Concur, Freeman.
If I wasn't objective, then simply provide us with your factual account. No need to characterize my version. Give us yours. What really happened?
I don't have to give you an account. And yes you can fairly criticize me for not doing so, but don't say it was a personal attack and suddenly go on how I was whining and now I'm doing the same thing.
When you're criticizing me be accurate and fair or get your hand slapped.
And why the HELL everything I like to eat... causes cancer. Yesterday it was good for you. Today? Rot you with tumors. What. The. Hell?
Yeah!!! F/T
Like we spent years eating tasteless crap without salt because the food police (I was going to say Nazi but didn't want to Godwin the thread) decided we shouldn't eat salt an NOW we find out that too little salt is lethal
Can't they just leave us the EFF alone. I eat as much salt as tastes GOOD.
F/T
This could be fun
:-D
Bender is being excessively crabby.
You won't give an account either because you know that what I said is accurate -- as is conclusively shown merely by going over there and reading the posts -- or because you weren't there (which is what you said earlier) and hence you don't know what the hell you are talking about and have no reasonable basis whatsoever to question my objectivity.
Why don't you just stick to facts and quit crying about personalities?
Crap. I have to do this.
I have to agree with fiona on the autocorrect. Made me laugh.
Chances of there ever being an "F/U" thread approach 0%
I know....
Like winning the lottery, but fun to think about.
I used to put sugar on my wonder bread when I was but wee lass. That was F/U'd.
Karen, I can actually be funny on purpose.
Try peanut butter first, then sprinkled with that sugar...
Good to know, Fiona.
You won't give an account either because you know that what I said is accurate -- as is conclusively shown merely by going over there and reading the posts -- or because you weren't there (which is what you said earlier) and hence you don't know what the hell you are talking about and have no reasonable basis whatsoever to question my objectivity.
My understanding was the offending posts were deleted.
What I was trying to say is that the words you used to describe Althouse and what happened were so emotive that your account wasn't likely reliable.
And I don't know, to be charitable maybe your account was more reliable than my smackdown deserved. But I never trust the kind of language that you used - to me it's never persuasive. Even when I use it myself. Which I don't really do when I'm describing a third party or giving a narrative account of something like you were.
Sorry for the typos. I'm tired and bitchy. Have a beer Bender.
Best ever non P/C sandwich
Fluffy Wonder Bread
Peanut butter
Sliced Bananas
Brown Sugar
Smoosh together ....stuff into your face..
No wonder Elvis was a hippo when he died. I think he used mayo also... bad move Presley
Seems like thread jack, but really falls into the F/T thread idea. F/T Don't tell me what to eat.
BTW. New Crisco with half or one third lard is almost a substitute for old Crisco
thread jack I guess
OK, leave my account out of it. The place began to get increasingly toxic about two weeks before AA had her snit.
What happened out in the world about two weeks previous to July 7?
What was one of her most favorite subjects in recent months?
Answer those questions and you have your answer as to why she nuked the place. You can do the math yourself.
Follow the paleo people, lard is good for you. Bacon, too.
Mmm, bacon.
I figure if you're going to jack a thread, what better way then bacon.
Darcy - Twinkie Dongs. A concept that could work.
Ehhhh..... Maybe not.
Lard makes the best pie crusts, my mam used lard for everything. She lived to be 98.
My dad got me hooked on peanut butter and miracle whip sandwiches. Don't knock it until you try it.
The thing is this -- some people can play smashmouth out on the field and then walk off, shake hands, and have a beer together. Other people (AA) can't.
The bbq restaurant nearby offers the sandwich "Elvis style" and that's the way I like it. BBQ pork with coleslaw and pickles.
yum.
peanut butter and banana and honey - that's good too.
Well the other thing is I didn't see what happened but virtually everyone was talking about how badly Althouse mistreated them.
Personally I can't stand mob behavior and that's what it sounded like to me.
I'm a little unsympathetic to the "how horrible Althouse is" meme - especially when even some of the hardcore righties were saying "Yeah, well maybe some of us did go a little too far."
I respect Althouse, I don't really know if she was right or wrong, I wasn't there, but I think you guys should let it go. It's not that important.
People need to cut each other more slack from time to time.
I know Althouse has her faults. I don't think in five years anything we said to each other didn't have a trace of something bitter in it.
At this point, what difference does it make?
Phx, there was mob mentality in play. It was very ugly and quite disturbing. When she finally closed I down, it was a relief. I think we are all shocked by it in one way or another.
Maybe not an F/U thread, but an Airing of Grievances thread three times each week. Without personal insults.
Peanut butter in toast is wonderful with hot giardinera adder.
t this point, what difference does it make?
None at this point. ...because NOW and for an ephemeral moment we are talking about food, peanut butter, lard and stuff.
Don't harsh our mellow ....dude.
I think her devotion to Rush is inexplicably childish for example. Often she's nothing more than a run-of-the-mill abrasive quack. Her taunting - and Althouse, a college professor! But she's smart and has her strong points as well.
Dude, find another thread. YOU'RE off topic.
Bender, you are cleared for take off.
As a couple are sitting in their kitchen one morning eating breakfast, the young woman sees her new neighbor hanging the wash outside. "That laundry is not very clean; she doesn't know how to wash correctly. Perhaps she needs better laundry soap." Her husband looks on, remaining silent. Every time her neighbor hangs her wash to dry, the young woman makes the same comments. A month later, the woman is surprised to see nice, clean wash ontha line and says to her husband : "Look, she's finally learned how to wash correctly. I wonder who taught her this? " The husband replies, "I got up early this morning and cleaned our windows." And so it is with life... What we see when watching others depends on the clarity of the window through which we look.
I can't claim that. It just showed up in my fb feed without an author, but seemed somewhat appropriate. Considering.
Harsh my mellow, fellow.
Re: Althouse - I scrolled past most of it so I don't even know what the heck happened.
I forget. What's the topic of this thread again?
Me, of course.
No, narcissim. And blogging.
Me too, April. I just couldn't work up any interest.
Good lesson KoT.
Lol, phx. I have to give you that one.
Phx, I think her edginess and cruel neutrality policy ran amok. I think she was incredibly hurt and frustrated and so were her long time readers. Who was wrong? Everyone, we all were.
Just my take on things, no one has to agree with me.
Rule No. 11. Don't bogart a thread.
@ Karen of Texas
Good allegory.
PHX the topic is ...free form evidently.
Let's talk about hummingbirds and how the Hell they can survive a -15 degree winter. Do they have itty bitty condos with teeny weeny beds in some nook of your eaves?? How do they survive. I refuse to think that hey fly to Mexico. They don't even have frequent flyer miles available.
:-)
What does Humphrey have to do with it?
It seemed pretty weird to me. I'm a busy commenter over there, as Palladian and others like to scold, but I finally left and a few weeks later I saw the comments were shut down.
Too phunny.
Bender, I may not have the timeline exactly right, but I thought the meltdown started a little before the "Losers!" post.
There was a series of posts on abortion, where althouse seemed genuinely open to an off-the-feminist-reservation perspective. People responded by trying to demonstrate that her position was inconsistent, and obviously hoped to convince her to rethink it. She responded, I thought in a kind of panicky way, that she was being *nice* to let you all discuss these things despite her disagreement with you (since no one else in her world would, you know), and you were just saying the same things over and over instead of carrying the conversation to some new as-yet-inconceived of-level. Or something.
I began to wonder if she was privately getting pushback on her "conservative" blog from her liberal academic peers, maybe even some pressure to rein everyone in or put them in their place.
In that (admittedly imaginary)context, to me, the "Losers!" post made sense, but it was shocking just the same.
Add Inga constantly yelling Hooray! Hooray for Althouse, finally kicking ass! How I have longed for this day! Go, Althouse, kick 'em some more!(ok, or words to that effect), and she (althouse) seemed encouraged by that, and became increasingly shrill.
Which really surprised me.
I never saw the personal attacks on Althouse or Meade; that unfortunate piece would be significant in explaining her attitude toward her commenters for sure, since she also seemed very hurt.
And, well, here we are.
Ms Queen,
They hitch a ride on the robins.
free form evidently.
Welcome to the Improv.
You know Lem really could make something special out of this blog. No doubt. This could be a very interesting place.
I used to get so angry at Althouse. (years ago...I'm talking years ago back when I didn't even post at her site) but then it all just stopped. The anger dissipated and nothing she said really ever angered me again. Still doesn't. Even If I disagree with Althouse, I feel/felt zero anger. Now you lefties - you piss me right off.
:)
But I can't stay mad at anyone who likes bad punk music.
I think Althouse and Meade deserve some respect. And we all need to cut each other a little slack. You, me; me, you.
Eileen, I doubt if Althouse would have been encouraged or discouraged by what Inga said. I'm fairly certain that her outrage and anger were fueled by years of anti gay rhetoric. When the SSM decision came down, she continued reading anti gay comments. I think it was very disappointing to her that her commenters didn't share in her view that it was a just ruling that righted a wrong.
AprilApple gets more slack from me these days - we have something in common, as hard as it is to believe.
She can talk shit to me like she usually does and I'll still give her a pass anytime she invokes our common interests.
AprilApple is good with me.
Actually April doesn't usually personalize her attacks as I recall. She keeps it levelled at liberals or "you libs" mostly.
I think the over the top pushback by some male and some female commenters regarding the Male Grievence movement, or Men's Right Movment, what have you, was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think she was hurt that her commenters didn't acknowlege how gays were denied rights for years, yet men are expressing outrage as to their own victimhood. She is a social liberal after all.
Phx, the comments had become tiresome for a while. They were especially tiresome when everyone was mad. Then certain trolls of the type who must be deleted started reposting over and over, sometimes several times per minute. That was the final straw (because who wants to be chained to a computer to repeatedly delete weirdos), and so the comments were shut off.
I'm fairly certain that her outrage and anger were fueled by years of anti gay rhetoric
I don't doubt that that is how she might have seen it. I also do not doubt that that reaction is due to her own knee-jerk irrational animosity for conservatives, which refuses to recognize that those who support the truth about marriage as it has existed for all of human history could actually be acting in good faith and without any anti-gay sentiment about it. For her and those like her, to be traditionally minded is to be, by definition, racist, misogynist, and homophobic.
For the months of discussion over SSM, I saw lots of comments in support of authentic marriage, but no real anti-gay comments whatsoever. In fact, those who support authentic marriage for the most part voice sympathy for those with same-sex attraction.
They were especially tiresome when everyone was mad.
My goal, which I believe is both realistic and healthy, is to live the rest of my life without getting mad at stuff, let alone someone's political beliefs.
Bender, truly? You saw no real anti gay comments? What about Jay and his comments that conflated gays with pedophiles and even beastiality. He wasn't the only one either.
Who the hell is Jay?
Thanks PHX. Right back at you....
Seriously though -- when I say never, I mean never from any serious people. Yes, there were various nuts who were easy enough to pass over and, hence, I rarely if ever read comments from him.
Fiona, did I miss something? You actually sounded downright decent there.
I find this style much easier to respect and respond to than all the insect stuff and scolding and such.
Not that you should particularly care what I think, of course. But if your hope is to influence, I would find this approach much more accessible.
BTW, I was just telling my son this evening that one of my favorite bedtime snacks as a kid was bread, butter & sugar sandwiches. Seriously, my mom actually made that for us! :)
Also there were plenty of instances in which Althouse's gay son was thrown into the argument. Why do that, it was so ugly.
Get mad over each others' political beliefs? What a bunch of nonsense. 99% of us on Althouse will influence exactly nobody with our beliefs. Maybe our kids, to the extent that they rebel and hold our beliefs in contempt.
Nearly all of us have exactly zero influence with our ridiculous political beliefs. And we're gonna take all that so seriously, that you're a liberal, I'm a conservative so we must be mortal enemies nonsense?
Someone's kidding themselves.
Ms Queen,
They hitch a ride on the robins
Well, possibly, but that would depend on the laden velocity of a robin burdened by a hummingbird and whether the hummingbird just "hitched a ride" or contributed by a few flappings of the wings or actually helped out a bit.
It is a long fucking way to Mexico, you know. Sometimes it takes two...baby
Someone's in throes of mortal self-importance.
Someone's working on an immortality project that's doomed to failure with their so-called political beliefs.
Eileen, if commenters here lapse into insect like behavior (biting off each other's heads unmercifully) it might bring out the scold in me again, I suspect. I especially despise bullying, sorry that's just me.
Sixty Grit and some others were so over the top, it turned my stomach.
Eileen, Bender has it right.
When we refused to give up (I do believe I quoted John Belushi at one point), she really couldn't cope with it.
And I'm sorry about that because my off-blog exchanges with her and Meade (email) were always pleasant, but whether that female you mention had anything to do with it, I have to be skeptical.
I just can't see Ann taking her seriously.
YMMV
Eileen. I have no aspirations of influencing anyone. I simply cannot control the scold in myself when I see certain behaviors, mostly unrelentless attacks and bullying. I do apologize for being a scold and nag.
Sixty Grit and some others were so over the top, it turned my stomach.
And thus it was....
but to continue the insect theme, does it justify gnawing off your own appendages?
Derbyshire on Rush:
"I enjoy these radio bloviators (and their TV equivalents) and hope they can survive the coming assault from Left triumphalists. If conservatism is to have a future, though, it will need to listen to more than the looped tape of lowbrow talk radio. We could even tackle the matter of tone, bringing a sportsman's respect for his opponents to the debate.
I repeat: There is nothing wrong with lowbrow conservatism. Ideas must be marketed, and right-wing talk radio captures a big and useful market segment. However, if there is no thoughtful, rigorous presentation of conservative ideas, then conservatism by default becomes the raucous parochialism of Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and company. That loses us a market segment at least as useful, if perhaps not as big.
Conservatives have never had, and never should have, a problem with elitism. Why have we allowed carny barkers to run away with the Right?"
http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/radio.html
Ms.Queen, yes sometimes I bite myself. Then I kick myself too for good measure.
I'm nixing the FU thread idea. It would inevitable spill over into all the other threads.
Think about it. we don't have rules other than a self police rule. Saying on a tread that that rule doesn't apply sends a mix massage that we don't mean what we say.
Sorry Rabel. the idea was good on paper but unworkable.
I wonder if most people ever get mad simply over differences in political beliefs. They get mad if they feel disrespected. They get frustrated if they believe they are misunderstood. They get annoyed if someone seems obtuse. And no one has much patience for someone who's clearly out there to just stir things up for, I dunno, their own entertainment, maybe?
When a statement of belief is responded to with something along the lines of, "I can't believe how stupid you are, and ugly too", what do you expect?
I think it's hard to put my true beliefs into words, words that can then be judged by everyone else, however they see fit. My beliefs, political or otherwise, are precious to me, hardwon from a lifetime of thinking, talking and experiencing my way. Ultimately, and I'll speak for myself, I'm probably mostly just a little too sensitive, and a little less smart and funny than I think.
So I should yield, of course, to the more intelligent, bacon-wrapped among us.
Ms.Queen, yes sometimes I bite myself. Then I kick myself too for good measure.
As do we all...all of us...all the time if we are self aware organisms, But do we learn anything from the experience or adapt our behavior? To do otherwise is to engage in a self defeating spiral.
Then certain trolls of the type who must be deleted started reposting over and over, sometimes several times per minute. That was the final straw (because who wants to be chained to a computer to repeatedly delete weirdos), and so the comments were shut off.
Some of that meanness was rubbing off on me.
I realize that now.
Me, too. No one is immune to that. That's why it's not ok just because it's the internet. Or because you're anonymous. It infects people and it spreads. IMO.
"As do we all...all of us...all the time if we are self aware organisms, But do we learn anything from the experience or adapt our behavior? To do otherwise is to engage in a self defeating spiral"
Ms. Queen, yes, what profitteth us to cut off our noses to spite our faces, or to get our tresses freshly set, only to venture out into the elements. These are weighty matters that must be considered with great gravity.
Meow kitty. Giveth thee milk to the dear beastie, for she has assuredly been a good and loyal creature.She hunts day and night.
You don't have a second chance to make a first impression. You introduced yourself in the manner of an above-it-all sockpuppet meant to sound like Althouse, Meade, or Inga. Now you wish to upgrade. No dice. Show yourself or get bent.
Deborah, life is with replete with second chances, or third, or fourth. Who are you to demand anything of anyone here?
All I hear from you now is buzzing, which has become annoying.
Crack eviscerated Althouse a "few" times in this thread. But hey, nothing extraordinary he hadn't done previously. And then Althouse got her panties in a bunch re: Glenn Reynolds.
Maybe she's still depressed two of her lover boys, mittens and Scott Brown went down in flames.
And speaking of her ad nauseam Elizabeth Warren/H. Clinton fetish, she realizes Hillary is the heavy favorite for 2016, the Reps anemic competition notwithstanding.
She also realizes re-opening her lair to comments is a lose/lose proposition.
Again, better to be talked about, than not talked about at all so Lem is making Althouse a happy camper. A win/win situation for all concerned.
And so it goes ...
And before you or anyone says it, I do not demand good behavior from you or anyone here, but I do get to point out that you are buzzing annoyingly.
On last thing, your curiosity about me is becoming obsessive.
Earlier I said I thought I knew who Fiona was. I was wrong about that. Ignore that comment. Consider it retracted.
Holy hell.
I think is understandable that after losing the good thing we had, that we are trying to rebuild, we want to make sure we are all in the same page that's all.
Its nothing personal Fiona.
Heh.
Haz convention.
July 18, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Lem, I'm on the same page too, but Deborah wants to chase me away.
That heh was for Freeman and Deborah :-)
Ms.Queen, yes sometimes I bite myself. Then I kick myself too for good measure.
"As do we all...all of us...all the time if we are self aware organisms, But do we learn anything from the experience or adapt our behavior? To do otherwise is to engage in a self defeating spiral."
Well.... I tried to help
Dust Bunny, I think that your comment was wonderful. I'm not sure Deborah took it seriously though.
DBQ is nobody's fool.
DBQ has been commenting way before me and I started before the Bush administration ended.
You know the hardest part about commenting as administrator is?
I have not only mind the grammar, which i'm lousy at, I have to also be aware I don't start a flaming war inadvertently.
Commenting as admin kinda sucks.
phx & AprilApple:
Lou Reed, bringing people together.
I guess I'll just have to delete all those R. Lee Ermey quotes I was saving on notepad.
Sugar on white bread. Oh yeah.
Also Karo syrup on Grandma's biscuits. Floating in it.
I wanna party with DBQ.
from Full metal jacket.
You'll know how to slip them in.
those are harmless. just put in the clue at the end - Ermey.
btw rabel do you have a blog of your own?
The reason I'm asking is it would be good to have an email address you could reached at.
you can set up a fake one. everybody has them.
No.
ok sorry I asked.
No was to the blog question. I'll get you an email one day.
I like that no rushing into anything. build a reputation as a commenter. good call.
I've enjoyed your sense of humor. I think the avatar helps.
I also concur that devil dogs taste better than twinkies. Most things taste better when surrounded by chocolate......For breakfast I have blueberries, a couple of 90 proof chocolate squares and low fat yogurt. I think this is probably healthy. Anyway it tastes good enough to get me out of bed......I've read the comments from 10 pm on. There seems an enormous amount of speculation about why Althouse terminated the comments, and some people take the termination personally. My guess is that she just got bored. Freedom from the press sort of thing. Of all the various rejections and insults I have endured in my life, those encountered on the Internet hurt the least.....I enjoy reading the comments, although sometimes I feel guilty about spending too much time doing so. Well, it's not a vortex. It's more like a hot tub. Maybe the point of some activities is their utter pointlessness.
"I think the avatar helps."
She has a certain power. I got very different responses when I subbed in my little doggie for a month or so. Odd.
Well, I wouldn't go changing it.
I finally found a decent familiar song for the new open thread I put up just now. so now I can hit the pillow. we'll talk later here in the comments.
thanks for commenting.
shiloh said...
Maybe she's still depressed two of her lover boys, mittens and Scott Brown went down in flames.
When it's stolen, it isn't going down in flames.
And speaking of her ad nauseam Elizabeth Warren/H. Clinton fetish, she realizes Hillary is the heavy favorite for 2016, the Reps anemic competition notwithstanding.
Unless another nobody arises to swipe it from her from the very beginning.
So how is Hillary, heiress presumptive, something about which to be tooting a horn? Anemic competition, delusion self-projecting notwithstanding?
Gah. I had such high hopes for this thread then it kind of went to hell in hand basket. Glad I'd jumped out. Now I'm stupidly jumping back in? *kicks self*
*DelusionAL - stupid, stupid phone.
BTW, there was some nice clean-up going on there for a bit so please don't think I'm harshing on you good folks - Lem et alia...
deborah said...
Couldn't think of the name Hazel...kept thinking Harriet, but it didn't sound right.
DBQ, I detest new crisco. It's not as firm as it used to be and doesn't taste the same when you put it a little bit on your tongue.
Wait what? Crisco changed? How? Why?
Meth, they took out the trans fats which gave it firmness, and gave a better 'crisp' when used for frying, and a better flakiness when used for pie dough.
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