Tuesday, July 9, 2019

Wikipedia: Jeffrey Epstein: Revision history

Wikipedia editors are bashing each other's brains out arguing about the changes they're furiously making to Wikipedia Epstein page.

Lucky for us it's all recorded.

It's like a million monkeys with keyboards.

It's actually too much to read. I've got dishes to do, boxes to take down. I have to clean out my refrigerator. I can't keep reading this. I have to vacuum up all those leaves and put away my clothes.

Click on the first one and another whole page opens up and scrolls forever. Here we see the personalities of Wikipedia editors, and they're strange and partisan as you might imagine, punctuated with occasional sanity.  Here.

The story is about Epstein so let's see how they make this about Trump.

Do, let's. Control F [trump]
You left out so much and then went out of your way to connect President Trump to him. Without even looking at your Harvey Weinstein page I can guess you did not include a positive quote from Hillary. They were practically best buds. This is why I am hesitant to give to info pages like yours. I never know the real agenda of the people working there.
And ... (this next Trump thread is long.)



Trump said of Epstein in 2002: "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."[68]

Vapid, out of context left-wing drivel. This should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.55.169 (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Direct quote from 2002: http://nymag.com/nymag/features/n_7912/. View HTML source of story for publication date. soibangla (talk) 03:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

“I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them on the younger side. Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” – Donald J. Trump in 2002 FactChecker429 (talk) 03:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Direct quote from 2002: http://nymag.com/nymag/features/n_7912/. View HTML source of story for publication date. soibangla (talk) 03:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

the trump quote absolutely has to go in and stay. when the spotlight's off epstein, the clinton mentions can be edited out like they should be. Cramyourspam (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Both Clinton and Trump information should stay in the article. They illustrate a key aspect of Epstein's biography, his development of relationships with powerful people. bd2412 T 23:32, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

hmmmmm, no. we're an academic/journalistic resource. with that role comes a social responsibility to soil one political side and shine another. any long-time WP editor or journalist knows what we mean. (that's not "unfair" ["waaah waaah"]; that's doing what's right.) we can 3RR away anyone not doing the proper thing. especially in dangerous times like now, with constant broadcast dog-whistles activating the hateful alt-right underside of nationalist wingnut-merca, we can't afford to be less than socially-responsible. Cramyourspam (talk) 23:48, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

This is truly unbelievable. Are you openly admitting to using this page to push your own political agenda by hiding potential pedophilia connections of people you happen to politically allign yourself with? While simultaneously claiming engaging in such acts makes you a shining beacon of morality? Or is this simply parody? -Z 5:55PM 7/8/2019

You're giving quite the "not here to build an encyclopedia" vibe.

Political vandalism going on here? https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/car286/epsteins_wikipedia_page_is_being_altered_to/ Apparently figures previously mentioned in the article are being erased but Trump is being left. I'm pretty sure Donald Trump isn't the only person Epstein has ever had any social contact with, so this is getting pretty bizarre. Either list all prominent relationships or remove all prominent relationships. This is not a campaign article2601:1C0:C801:9FA0:C575:4C00:47BC:F289 (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC).

Information on Bill Clinton was removed from the article, and was restored, as was a mention of Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. There is no either/or here; in order to be fully informative, we list all prominent relationships. bd2412 T 00:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

This quote definitely fits the article as it shows how well-known Epstein's character may have been. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.168.189.226 (talk) 00:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Now lets do Control F [fox]

Quoting from a comment above: "Epstein is at least as well known for his paedophile pimping as for his finance and other work." Sadly this is true for a minority of gullible people self-imprisoned by their AlexJones-Fox-Limbaugh conspiracy theory echo-chamber. They happily seek and chug-a-lug nasty delusions like Hillary's child sex slave ring with pizzagate, and other imaginary, perverted daydreams. Of course the quivering will say, or write, or do anything to destroy such a monster. How unspeakably sad.

Me: Sadly that's actually true of anyone familiar with the name Epstein. Anyone! Even people self-imprisoned by their Alex Jones - Fox - Limbaugh obsession who happily chug-a-lug nasty delusions about their own sources of information not being straight up Democrat propaganda, you asshole, who mentions Jones, Fox and Limbaugh where it isn't appropriate.

How revealing.

No one really knows how Epstein amassed his fortune. Working for a a finance company then starting his own doesn't quite explain it sufficiently. Now there's an interesting story that actual journalists are curious about and only beginning to research. They smell something nefarious. This would be something worthwhile noting in a Wikipedia page on Epstein. A comprehensive understanding of his massive wealth accumulation is only beginning to become understood. So far it's simply skipped in his biographies.

3 comments:

chickelit said...

Any chance anyone will ask for Epstein’s tax returns?

ampersand said...

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein isn't just a front man for the Globaloney Clinton Initiative. It'd be interesting to know if the PMs of Australia and Norway happened to spend anytime on Lolita Island. I never understood how those countries could have dumped millions into that scam.

edutcher said...

Epstein could bring down more than the Ozark Mafia (although I've seen blurbs the Beast was on a couple of those flights).

A lot of Demos swing that way - Menendez, Biden, several Congresspeople (yeah, both genders) and, if you surf the comment boards, the trolls are busy pushing Fake News talking points.

ampersand said...

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein isn't just a front man for the Globaloney Clinton Initiative.

This may well get the world a real look at the Ozark Global Slush Fund. Willie always claimed the jaunts were to raise money.