Monday, February 12, 2018

High school science fair project sparks outrage

Full story at sacbee.com

I'll make this short as possible to encourage discussion.

The thing is hard to read because it's about a science project put on by students in an advanced group. We look for what the project was about, what its postulate is, its methods and conclusions. But we don't get that because the very idea of the project is blasphemous where science and education substitute for religion, and where politics and religion are combined. So the science project put on by advanced class was shut down.

The project is about intelligence and race. The school wants to have racial inclusion, good, and would like for race to be reflected in its advanced program equally, good, but it does not want to look at the subject scientifically.

So show us where the science went wrong. Not why the subject is wrong. Show us how the method of the project is invalid. Not why talking about such an unpleasant subject is invalid. They're just shutting down discussion because they don't like the subject far less the results. So reading it paragraph for paragraph we are indoctrinated to right-thinking, and not having anything close to research that can be run again and proven or disproven.

And as propaganda, each paragraph carries its own valid reverse. Each paragraph is disputable.The entire news story is read with two minds. The social education towards utopia mind, and the number driven scientific mind. The social education mind wins because the whole project (by an intellectualy advanced student) is shut down.

The article starts out,
* students, parents, and staff are upset. 
We can't have that!
* The racially charged project say it points to a larger problem: the lack of ethnic diversity in the school’s elite HISP program.
Larger than what exactly, the discomfort of having the numbers in front of your eyeballs?
* “I think that a lot of people, especially of color, are really hurt and upset by this,” 
:-(
* The HISP program is designed to promote cultural awareness and sensitivity. Often, it includes alternative viewpoints on history. 
Except now.
* The program currently has 508 students enrolled, including 12 African American students, 80 Hispanic students and 104 who are Asian, according to data provided by the district. 
So, you are interested in numbers.
* “It’s just kind of shocking to think someone could enter into that program knowing that is what we are learning about and being so closed-minded.” 
Okay, which side is closed-minded again? I'm not in this advanced program so I'm easily confused.
* The idea of race being tied to intelligence has a long and controversial history and is considered fringe. It is associated with other ideas including eugenics.
Huh. Know what has its origin in eugenics, but is not fringe? Ask one of the students in your advanced program. Or ask any common right for life supporter out there on your fringe.
* The Bell Curve 
* alternative right movement 
* leading conservative voice for immigration reform 
* President Donald Trump, comment about shitholes.
Finally, the method. The student had a handful of different race students take an I.Q. test. The article doesn't state exactly how many students fit in a hand. Let's say, not enough for a valid conclusion. His unhappy conclusion that the disproportion between races enrolled in the advanced program is justified.
* district is aware of the controversy. 
It's only a controversy because you say that it is.
* I want to be clear that at McClatchy High School we promote and embrace an inclusive environment and way of thinking which excludes any form of discrimination. 
Sensitive inclusive response about an inherently exclusive advanced program. Look, do you want an advanced program or don't you? Make up your mind.
* one of four African American students in her senior class, said the incident reflects an undercurrent of racism at the school, although she hasn’t experienced blatant racism. 
* Students at the school who aren’t in the HISP program see it as a closed culture made up mostly of white and Asian students, Vidal said. “They don’t feel they can talk to us,” she said.
It is a closed culture. By design. If you want to be a member then up your game. You making a controversy of this shows that they're right. They can't even talk to you.  Better to point out that "a handful of students" is too small a sample to reach a valid conclusion. And maybe them being smarter than you really is too large a gulf to span. By closing down the project, you did tell them to shut up.
* HISP students don’t get the insight of people of color or from lower socio-economic backgrounds. 
While you flatly reject even discussing the findings of brainiacs.
* the program is challenging and has “great” teachers, but is separated from the general population of the school and not racially diverse.
I wonder why.

Then several short paragraphs of the students saying a whole bunch of stupid things that fairly reveals why they don't have representation in the advanced class, and why they cannot talk to each other.

You'll just have to read it yourself to see how stupid and how self-contradictory. I've kept this short as I could.

7 comments:

rhhardin said...

Intelligence matters only when you legally require equal outcomes as a trigger to berate the smarter group for its racism. Finally, after a generation, you get a WTF reaction. Lacking that, only character matters.

My go-to tables, picked at random more or less, are

https://www.ttu.ee/public/m/mart-murdvee/EconPsy/2/Lynn_Meisenberg_2010_National_IQs_calculated_and_validated_for_108_nations.pdf

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

It's surprising the swings are so great. They don't seem to have been done by angry people.

edutcher said...

Interesting this hits the same time as the Lefty tantrum over the one negatory review of Black Panther on Rotten Tomatoes.

We've seen this before. Remember the Sort Of God and how we were supposed to be in awe of his awesomeness?

So, the question, when you break a shibboleth like this is, what if it's true? The old segregationists always talked about how blacks, except for a Talented Tenth (and we don't mean rappers), really couldn't fend for themselves. OTOH there were those wily and inscrutable Orientals.

What if that stuff turns out to be true? And I think it's got nothing to do with being more diverse. The more diverse you are, the more idiots you will find inflicted on you.

Or something.

Go up on IMDB and read the member comments for 55 Days At Peking. I love the one who wrote "Anglo-Saxons Save The World". Because that's been very true.

YMMV

Chip Ahoy said...

One time I was leaving a party and a group of youngsters in their 30s were discussing China taking over the United States in economics.

"I overheard your discussion. You might ask what took them so long."

They laughed.

"Their culture outdates ours by, what, five thousand years?"

They laughed more.

I wasn't being funny. Goddamnit. That wasn't a joke.

Same is even more true for Africa, the apparent birthplace of humanity. Why doesn't Africa lead us in culture, in technology, in all things, by 10,000 years? Is there a difference between us? If there is, then what is it?

Speaking in evolutionary terms, if your survival depends on reaching out and grabbing a fruit, or surviving the hardships at the base of thousand foot tall glaciers, there might be something evolutionary within genes having to do with being inventive. So yeah, environment determines quite a lot. And that evolutionary difference has nothing to do with twins raised by different families turning out spookily similar.

Shut my mouth. The people I know firsthand are all very clever. Maybe they're not all that great at taking standard tests. I don't know.

I still wonder why these two guys I had just met within half an hour described me as intellectual. What kind of feedback is that to give a new friend? I had only told one joke. A pun I had expected would go past them, but it didn't. They both busted my pun. And that surprised me because I delivered it so subtly as if speaking normally with no emphasis. One little joke and boom they both called me an intellectual. I didn't like that. Because I was trying to act studly. The black guy said it and the white guy agreed.

AllenS said...

We don't need to go very far in recognizing a difference in the abilities/intelligence of related humans than North and South America when the Europeans arrived. Look at what was built in South America, and then look at North America which was still in the stone age. Why?

edutcher said...

To be fair, Mexico and Guatemala were the hub of development. Now they can't even govern themselves.

Rabel said...

The truth hurts.

But hey, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. For example, the offending student may be really good at readin', writin' and rithmatic but his taping skills are sub-Saharan.

ricpic said...

There is quite a dispute raging in the scientific world about when the branching out of humans from Africa began. If the branching out began 200,000 years ago, that would give more credence to the view that enough biological changes have occurred in those that branched out to East Asia, the Middle East (West Asia) and Europe that by now they would practically be a different species than the original humans that remained in Africa. That number, 200,000 seems to be gaining acceptance over the 50,000 year branching out that was generally agreed upon before the discovery of human or humanoid bones dating back about 200,000 found in. I believe several locations in both East Asia and West Asia.