Ricpic, after viewing this 1:53 trailer about Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzFoJyCFbM8
"Nothing special about those two. You'll find their sisters all over Larchmont. I ran away from that world forty years ago. Life reduced to the low horizon of comfort. Glad I escaped with every free breath I take."
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Is comfort so bad?
Try discomfort.
By "comfort" I meant a kind of claustrophobia I felt in that very upholstered world. What can I say, you had to be there.
But I did get a laugh out of Debbie telling her daughter to get her tush out of our face.
Apparently drug induced comfort is bad.
Good one, ed.
I think I pretty much knew where you were coming from, ricpic...tissue boxes alway at hand, lots of gadgets in the kitchen drawers, fluffy bathroom sets for the toilet lid and around the floor. Cozy, but not for all.
YMMV, Leland, depends on what you mean by drug :)
Now this is stripped down, only projects 8+ inches from the wall!
http://usa.hudsonreed.com/white-minimalist-compact-unit-wall-hung.html
Carrie Fisher's speech is slurred. That house is cluttered. I am thankful that I am a Shaker.
Curiously, the "overheard" quote tracks back to a Jan 4, 2017 post containing 25 comments, including one in which SixtyG details his discovery of a loose pig.
http://comonocreerendios-lem.blogspot.com/2017/01/bright-lights-carrie-fisher-and-debbie.html
Which inspired further curiosity and wonder as to how and why a comment from there is being showcased today?
More uncomfortable to me than cluttered cozy decor is the enmeshment evident in the video, with the daughter emphatically declaring that "far more than I'd ever want to, I know what my mother feels and wants", followed by the mom saying "Just do what your mother wants, it makes life easier".
On another level, this comment on performers and the difference between real and persona (overheard on that same thread) hits the mark: Both Debbie and Carrie were performers. It's hard to tell what part of them was real and what part was persona. I don't know if they even knew the difference between their mask and their identity. Maybe there wasn't any. At any rate, the masks they crafted were appealing and likable, and they wore those masks gracefully.
Shakers were excellent wood crafters, that explains a lot.
She was the best Star Wars princess. As an actress she's not in the same league as Natalie Portman, but she was just right in those movies. She delivered the hammy lines in an earnest, sincere way and she was cute and appealing and a fine companion for life's great adventure,.....All the great princesses on a journey have that quality. Judy Garland in the Wizard of Oz, Karen Allen in Raiders, Jenna Chapman in Doctor Who, and Emilia Clarke in GoT. I don't want no nuance and layered performances in times of peril..
" I don't want no nuance and layered performances in times of peril.."
Right on, William. I saw the first movie in the theater and was blown away by the whole thing and loved the derring-do and fairy-tale-come-to-life quality of it.
Which inspired further curiosity and wonder as to how and why a comment from there is being showcased today?
January of this year may be around the time deborah disappeared for a while. Perhaps she bookmarked her last post.
Deborah invented the "overheard" tag which I shamelessly took over. She also invented the "WLEM AM" tag which I morphed into KLEM FM (it being understood that the Mississippi River separates radio stations with call letters "K" from those beginning with "W."
Oh Pshaw, as my dad used to say. Was the link back to the post where that comment was "overheard" there all the time? Hidden in full view, in a lighter shade of grey? I missed it, bowled over perhaps by the more burning question of how that particular voice from the past drifted into the light and levity of this day.
With the disappearance of triangle windows, came a dictionary so easy to use I'm still amazed. Not only does it clarify Pshaw as expression used to express irritation, disapproval, contempt, or disbelief, it sheds light on "Zounds", also recently overheard at Levity, revealing it to be a mild oath indicating surprise, indignation, etc. euphemistic shortening of God's wounds. Word Origin and History for zounds. c.1600, oath of surprise or anger, altered from (by) God's wounds!
Who knew?
Deborah, while I see what you did there; I was referencing the fact that Carrie’s early demise was fueled by a drug overdose. I think see was an introvert that desperately didn’t want the be and used drugs to surpress her desire to run from the limelight.
Leland, not sure about the introvert part, I don't know enough about her. But I understand she was manic-depressive. And a very large part of her problem was being a Hollywood kid, reminds me a lot of Patty Duke.
This clip only strengthens what we already know, rich or poor, we all have the same problems in dealing with family. Here we see the duty a daughter feels toward her mother.
Here we see the duty a daughter feels toward her mother.
Cute with the "we" and untrue with the "we see". While one person here may see what could be perceived as "a duty a daughter feels toward her mother" I see enmeshment, which is a different dog. As for the sweeping and fatuous statement that "we all have the same problems in dealing with family", "we" don't, particularly so when mental illness, addiction and abuse are present.
What is “enmeshment?”
Enmeshment is a description of a relationship between two or more people in which personal boundaries are permeable and unclear. This often happens on an emotional level in which two people “feel” each other’s emotions, or when one person becomes emotionally escalated and the other family member does as well. Enmeshment between a parent and child will often result in over involvement in each other’s lives so that it makes it hard for the child to become developmentally independent and responsible for her choices.
What causes two people to become enmeshed?
The causes of enmeshment can vary. Sometimes there is an event or series of occurrences in a family’s history. Other times, and perhaps more frequently, enmeshment occurs as a result of family patterns being passed down through the generations. It is a result of family and personal boundaries becoming more and more permeable, undifferentiated, and fluid. This may be because previous generations were loose in their personal boundaries and so it was learned by the next generation to do the same. Or it may be a conscious decision to stay away from family patterns of a previous generation that felt overly rigid in its personal boundaries.
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