Thursday, October 6, 2016

"Sean Hannity calls Megyn Kelly a Clinton supporter"

Conservative pundit Sean Hannity leveled what he might consider the worst insult imaginable at anchor Megyn Kelly in a tweet Wednesday night, which said she "clearly" supports Hillary Clinton.

The tweet was apparently in response to Kelly comments earlier in the evening on The Kelly File when she accused both presidential candidates of avoiding tough interviews.

"They're both in their own version of a presidential protection program," Kelly said. She said Clinton makes sure "she is not in a place where she feels uncomfortable or anything unexpected could come at her, which is why she sat for a half an hour with Mary J. Blige, the singer, which is why she did Entertainment Tonight this evening."

Via Drudge:


bagoh20 said...

Of course she is. I mean she doesn't even wear a Trump hat on air or anything.

Let's get this two-hour hate going today, and purge some anger. It's so invigorating, and let's admit it: at our age, it's all we have to live for.

edutcher said...

Give it a rest.

Anyone who isn't ambivalent about Trump is automatically a fanatic. Yeah, we get it.

You may not know what you're talking about, but we get it.

And Hannity's probably right. Miss Megyn's been making network noises forever.

bagoh20 said...

It's also nice that we have found a way to simplify our lives by dividing the whole world into two groups: Trump lovers, and everybody else who are all deceitful, elitist, terrorist-loving assholes who need a strongly worded accusation of being part of the duopoly, even though none of us will vote for a third party candidate ourselves.

bagoh20 said...

That's really funny: Ed telling someone else here to give it a rest. Fucking hilarious!

bagoh20 said...

"Anyone who isn't ambivalent about Trump is automatically a fanatic. "

If you are not a Trump fanatic, Ed, then the word has no meaning. Let's take a vote on it.

bagoh20 said...

Sean seems like a guy I would like, but for him to accuse anybody else of being biased is just self-parody.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Of course everyone who is not willing to suck Trump's dick with the enthusiasm Corey or Melania give it is not a true patriot! Maybe one day ed will get his shot. Yeah we get it.

But I concur with that Megyn is definitely supporting Hillary and anti Trump, just like it is obviously Hannity is for Trump.

I want Trump to defeat Hillary. Trump needs to turn things around fast or he will lose too many of the critical battlegrounds. Close does not matter. Winning matters. He needs to dominate the remaining debates and not make any more mistakes.

Trooper York said...

The fact of the matter is that Megyn Kelly is all about Megyn Kelly. She had it in for Trump from the beginning because of the bogus womans issue. That is why she takes every opportunity to put NeverTrumpers and other anti-Trump people to "analyze" the race. It is a mugs game.

Of course Hannity is in the tank for Trump. That is why he can spot someone who is in the tank for Hillary. It takes one to know one.

ndspinelli said...

Where's Rodney King when you need him?

ndspinelli said...

Wait, who had Rodney in the dead pool?

edutcher said...

Funny how you can't just support the guy.

Funnier how all the people who think all the supporters are fanatics fall back on sexual imagery.

Kind of like projecting their feeling about some other candidate?

Who could it be?

In any case, Pat Caddell, polling for Brietbart, says up to 60% of Demos oppose Frumpty's immigration plans.

If accurate. we could see a genuine realignment on election day.

Trooper York said...

As far getting pushback on the constant negativity and concern trolling about Trumps campaign I guess you want a cookie or something. You want a pat on the head for your toxicity.

Youse guys have been consistent (excluding you Evi). Nothing Trump does is ever right and nothing he can do will ever measure up to some imaginary Republican who would be twenty points ahead of Hillary if only the stupid proles would have voted for them. It is quite tiresome. It is the same litany of complaints you hear from people on Hot Air, NRO and the Weekly Standard. It is the elitist establishment view. Both the Rhino establishment and the "conservative" establishment. They are united in their contempt and revulsion toward Trump and the Deplorables who voted for him. It is to be expected. He is breaking their rice bowl.

It is quite obvious who are the sheep and who are the goats.

ndspinelli said...

I learned much from doing surveillance. One of the most important things I learned is there is so much over which I had no control. Hoping something would happen or that the subject would so something was WASTED energy. It didn't take much for me to learn that as it fit my personality. I trained one guy who never came close to even understanding that. Wanting to see Hillary lose, I had slipped into that wasted hoping that Trump would wise the fuck up. I have slapped myself and am back to just observing. I'm actually biting my tongue a LOT here so as to not agitate. I'm not alone in that regard.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

I like that Hannity is openly in the tank for Trump. It is refreshing when a pundit admits it. Megyn should openly declare her allience too. But she is less about Hillary than about Megyn, which sort of makes her just like Hillary in a way.

ndspinelli said...

I see the whining has begun. "Nothing Trump does.." yada yada yada. Virtually EVERYONE here has said positive stuff about Trump. We will just not be bullied into drinking the fucking Koolaid. I know these criticisms written here about Trump are said by his CLOSEST advisers. They all get agita when he pisses on both his legs. So, if the Koolaid crowd here sat in a bar w/ Conway, Ailes, et al and heard them rant, EXACTLY, as some here do, WTF would you say to them???

Trooper York said...

It is instructive that the people who complain the most about pushback are the ones who claim they have only good motives. That they want Hillary to lose. You never hear them attacking Hillary. Or if you do it is in the most cursory way. Pro forma at best.

The real venom is reserved for Trump and his supporters. Non stop. Every day. Except when Trump is doing well. Then they hide out.

Ed and I are crystal clear in our sympathies. Other people are as well despite their bogus protestations to the contrary. I have seen this movie before.

bagoh20 said...

"Funny how you can't just support the guy."

I don't support him, but I'll vote for him anyway to avoid someone worse.

I don't like the guy. I think he's not too bright, he doesn't share my ideology, and he's hugely divisive, I think he's dangerous, and a weak candidate so far, but he's gonna get my vote anyway. That's the kind of personal butt-hurt controlling sacrifice and devotion to the country you guys could never muster. You vote for him because he makes you feel good and feeds your emotional need to punish your enemies. That's easy. You love him. I love the country. That's why I can criticize him and mean it and you cannot.

My job is telling people what they are doing wrong and encouraging them and helping them to do better. The ones who accept criticism, learn from it, and do things different get better. The ones who never get better are the ones who blame everyone else, the messenger, and point fingers so they don't have to change or improve. Trump has made some huge mistakes in his career and he has learned from them and gotten better in his businesses. I hope he doesn't learn the current lessons too late. The next debate will tell us.

bagoh20 said...

Exactly, Nick. People who really want him to beat Hillary and who he's paying to help him are telling him the same things we are saying, they aren't patting him on the back and telling him to just keep up the same shit. He won't increase his support that way, and he can't lose the Eds and Troopers of the world no matter what he does.

Amartel said...

They're pre-insulating themselves from criticism in case Trump loses. When you realize that it all makes sense. Quite the vote of confidence!

Obviously offering constructive criticism is not an "attack." Most of the vehement Trump critics on this blog, including myself, have repeatedly and for months indicated that they're going to vote for him despite their reservations. No need to keep stating your bona fides just because you are, yet again, being subjected to stupid accusations.

Trump has shown the ability to learn and grow. I applaud him for that because it's a really steep learning curve and battling the MFM and the rest of the Clown Elite is no joke. They'd kill the opposition if they could get away with it. For now they content themselves with killing us economically and virtually by making us NonPersons. I truly hope Trump can continue the trend, do the few things that will bring enough new people into his camp that we can get past the (ever growing) cheating margin. It won't take that much to get people to vote against Clinton. It's doable (as I said above) so DO IT.

edutcher said...

ndspinelli said...

I see the whining has begun. "Nothing Trump does.." yada yada yada.

Care to specify a yada?

I've said on occasion that anything he does will get an instant nit-pick from some on what he should have done, or should have done better, or should not have done, or ought do do like...

Usually, it's along the lines of play it the Establishment way, which hasn't had a very good track record the last 25 years or so.

bagoh20 said...
Funny how you can't just support the guy.

I don't support him, but I'll vote for him anyway to avoid someone worse.

I don't like the guy. I think he's not too bright, he doesn't share my ideology, and he's hugely divisive, I think he's dangerous, and a weak candidate so far

Probably should have said, "One can't", rather than attempting the impersonal you, althoug I think bag got exactly what I meant.

Funny, though, his dislike of the man centers on all the kvetches of the Whigs, from Grahamnesty to the One True Ted to Little Marco to Jeb!.

And I never said criticism of him was out of the question. I understood people like rc who wanted him to come out of the gate smoking and destroy Frumpty with clouds of invective, scoring it on points like a standard debate (which it isn't) although I'd said many times before the debate that he wanted to do what Reagan did in '80 and come off as someone people could trust by being calm and collected no matter how she tried to bait him.

To that end, I link again Dr Crowley's piece on the subject and excerpt the first couple of paragraphs

One of the biggest ironies of the first presidential debate is that Donald Trump’s reluctance to aggressively attack Hillary Clinton has now given him the license to fully do so.

Going into the debate — his debut on the world’s biggest stage — everyone, including his closest aides, was telling him that he must achieve plausibility: That is, he needed to reassure voters by looking reasonable, confident and self-possessed. If he were able to demonstrate an even temperament and basic command of the issues, voters could picture him behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office — and Mrs. Clinton’s negative ads about his unfitness would melt away.

Mr. Trump took his marching orders seriously and pulled his punches, at one point even acknowledging his self-restraint: “I was going to say something really rough about Hillary and her family, but I told myself it was not nice. But she spent tons of money on horrible ads about me, and I’ve spent virtually nothing.”

I have a feeling only Troop and Allen, and a few other like-minded people, read what I link.

Try this one, you may learn something.

Trooper York said...

What Ace said.

Trooper York said...

Forget it ed. It's Establishment town.

edutcher said...

I must.

I have found my sheep which was lost.

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

bagoh20 said...

I don't want him to pull punches. I want him to punch effectively. The stuff he was holding back was crap that only excites the Trumpers that he has in the bag already. It was stuff about Bill's sex life. The votes he needs to get won't be moved by that, they may in fact be repelled, even if it does get you cheering at the TV.

He needs to convince people who are most concerned about the issues, about whether or not he can be President without embarrassing them for their vote. The undecideds that he can get are those people who don't particularly like him nor hate Hillary with a passion, but will vote for change if it looks competent and reasonable. Those who want more are already sold. He needs to punch harder and better, and forget the showboating and windmills that got him the easy votes up front. It's a boxing match now, and not the WWF clown show of the primary. The judges here are keeping score on actual landed punches, not chairs thrown.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop, I am surprised you did not quote:

"Forget it ed, it's Cuckservative town"!

AI pray and hope to hear the Lamentations of the pundits on the morning of November 9. If that happens, their tears will be collected and put on my pancakes that day.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

And this is about winning those voters in the middle, it is a game but that is the game Trump has to win. If he gets enough of them in the right states, he wins. If not he loses.

AprilApple said...

They're pre-insulating themselves from criticism in case Trump loses. When you realize that it all makes sense.


Trooper York said...

Yeah thats what we are doing. Not supporting our candidate with all we got. It would be much better if we ignored Hillary's crimes and slimes and turned all of our venom on Trump. Right.

Youse guys are full of shit. You just want to be proved right that when you said Trump is a con man and that he never wanted to win in the first place. All of your posts are geared to support this bullshit theory.

When you realize that it all makes sense.

edutcher said...

The Bluebird of Happiness just parrots somebody else's kvetch.

bagoh20 said...

I don't want him to pull punches. I want him to punch effectively. The stuff he was holding back was crap that only excites the Trumpers that he has in the bag already. It was stuff about Bill's sex life.


It hits home with women because The Beast's Hera-like behavior shows she is anything but pro-women. A decent woman would have thrown him out (I've said this before) or walked out on him, but he was her political meal ticket, so she destroyed the women who could threaten her.

It also makes a dent on the Millennials. they look at Willie and see a sclerotic, poxed dirty old man and are turned off (plenty of articles all across the Webosphere on the subject).

bag will always have a bitch.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

And this is about winning those voters in the middle, it is a game but that is the game Trump has to win. If he gets enough of them in the right states, he wins. If not he loses.

What do you think he's been doing? It's why he goes out to the small towns and has rallies. He's getting the Reagan Democrats - that Caddell stat of 60% of Democrats is a killer and he's working them. He may not win back the Whigs, but enough Reagan Democrats will vastly offset that. He's getting at least 18% of blacks and a third of Hispanics, he's dead even on women - name any of his competitors who could do as well.

And every time he's gone after one of Frumpty's stalking horses, he's been proven right.

Sorry, facts are a bitch.

AprilApple said...

Bagoh - Please worship the false god - just the way he is....

edutcher said...
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edutcher said...

Nobody wants him to do anything against his conscience, but he's not kidding anybody with the carping. He wants the Beast attacked, but not the way Trump attacks. He wants someone nice to do it.

I take it no one's seen the photos of Cruz working the phones in front of a wall of Trump/Pence posters.

BTW, bag, you have a bone to pick with E, who seems (note I say seems) to share my views on Trump hammering Frumpty over Willie's little peccadilloes (almost as little as Marco's).

Saw this in the sidebar, so I figure it's public domain.

Or something.

AprilApple said...

Hillary is horrible. So why isn't Trump beating her?

bagoh20 said...

Nope, I don't think the women Trump does not have care about Willie, or what he did decades ago. They knew it then, they know it now. It's hardly a revelation, and when they see Trump blaming her for it, how many do you think are gonna feel sorry for her, and see him as a bully? Do you really think that crap is what people are voting on, especially people who are still undecided? the undecided are people who want to make the right choice for their future. The ones who make emotional decisions are already committed to one or the other.

bagoh20 said...

The undecideds are hungry for either one to look good enough to defend a vote for them. They are just waiting for someone to shine, and digging in the dirt is no way to impress them. People care about the emails and the corruption on the negative side, and about policy on the positive side. Everything else is embarrassing to them at this point. Going there makes you look unserious to people who are serious voters, and that's who is up for grabs now.

edutcher said...

He is. Some of the other polls have already given up the charade.

Of course quoting the guy who told Monmouth how to cheat on it's polls is more than a little stupid, but, one more time, I go to the source.

Those who can actually read have already found this interesting.

Nate Sliver


: Attached screens will move 80% of targets into the 30-50 age range. Use included statistical model to re-skew for publication.

The location-call screens will favor south Tallahassee, east and north Gainesville, Central Tampa, north and west Jacksonville, west and south Orlando, and much of Dade / Broward counties. Space Coast regions and similar must be carefully screened for demographic.

This should be obvious. We are looking at a heavy minority foundation with a college-white salt. Favored are liberal arts degrees and, especially, sociology. See attached call-files.

We prefer polling areas of high unemployment for minority response. More are available to take calls during working hours and far, far fewer of them support Republican candidates.


It is imperative to create a morale boosting narrative in the liberal demographics. Our last published polling note gave liberals a “week before panic.” We must deliver on a turn-around in polls or risk collapse of enthusiasm. The data from our call / email sieve as well as legitimate polling indicates a level of despondency equivalent, roughly, to the Michael Dukakis candidacy. This is due to (a) Trump’s successful presidential-narrative surge and (b) a massive lack of enthusiasm on the part of minority and millennial voters who are beginning to view Obama as a failed president and Hillary Clinton as a ‘lying harpy.’ (word association testing focus groups). In order to rally the male-liberal base we will need to produce “resurgent” Florida polling. The conventional wisdom is that Florida will be the fulcrum state for the election and if it is seen as
lost to Trump then we will have domino defections throughout the other swing-states. Presently, our internal analysis shows the Democratic Firewall in extreme jeopardy. This week the news cycle MUST show Hillary regaining the lead in Florida.

( have to continue this in another comment because Blogger won't allow more than 4K in an HTML)

Get it? He's a liar and he's showing other people how to lie.

Bring him up again and I will continue to ram this down people's throats.

BTW If she's so horrible, how was she able to get the nomination? How can the media front for her? Clearly, up to a little while ago, she was ahead, then dead even, and now she's trailing - except in the rigged polls.

She's got the Lefty Establishment plus all the Trump-haters (hint, hint) in her corner, yet Trump ran her out of OH, CO, and now NV.

He's made PA, NM, NH, WI, and MI competitive. Who else could have done that?

I know I'm asking the moon, but how hard is it to understand that the Establishment media is LYING?

edutcher said...

The rest of it. Read it and tell me how you can believe this slug or anything he says.



Weaknesses abound. The first is that the birther message is penetrating: 73% of Americans are willing to say they don’t know where Obama was born. This was previously locked out via media shaming. Trump is immune so his followers are immune. The Florida geography is also working against us. Hillary has 53+ Field Offices and they’re empty of volunteers. This lack of enthusiasm is showing up in the voting responses and it’s killing us. The “cell phones” rationale will only hold out for so long.


PPP is burned. There have been too many leaks. Monmouth is less well known and less disparaged by conservatives. This is a good chance for you to build your brand both with naïve liberals and with some conservative moderates. The general reputation of Monmouth as a party-school will work against you here but we think that will be easy to gloss over with the chaos of the messaging. We also have a chance to build a White People Are Racist narrative. We’ve got some good story coming out of The Upshot with the headline that “Whites” are keeping Trump alive in Florida. If we can double down on that in the cross-tabs we can strongly insinuate that Whites (who code as racists in the media) like Trump (who codes as racist) and get an Ouroboros-Pattern established for undecideds. Finally, while we have been forced by intense public scrutiny to accurately report a Trump Surge, we think there is an opportunity here for demoralization by reporting a “counter surge” or “Trump Collapse” that will reduce momentum as the Trump narrative has shifted to talking about the polls.


People are leaking a lot
. If you don’t want Enten’s gang all over you, we suggest you lock it the fuck down
. There are a lot of people poking around the edges that are on to things and a bunch of stuff out on the Internet that is more hit-than-miss. PPP’s extremely unwise decision not to disavow the leaks on Twitter has costs us a great deal of credibility and voters are a
lot more educated about cross-tabs and skewing and we may not have as easy a time of it as we did in 2012. Finally, we know you consider Quinnipiac a “rival school.” Put that aside and stand down your hackers and arson-units. This is a team effort. If we lose this election we’re all fucked.

Methadras said...

Sean Spammity called Megyn Smelly anything is about as exciting as watching snails leave a trail.

bagoh20 said...

"bag will always have a bitch."

I do alright for a guy who was around before color TV.

bagoh20 said...

"A new poll from Monmouth University shows that the heated, ugly and thankfully-almost-over campaign is fraying the human bonds that hold society together. Things have gotten so bad that 1 in 14 Americans have ended a friendship because of a political disagreement during this electoral version of Celebrity Death Match.

Perhaps due to the schism within the Democratic Party exposed by Bernie Sanders' primary campaign, more Clinton supporters (9 percent) than Trump supporters (6 percent) say they have lost friends during the campaign.

Monmouth also reports that 70 percent of those polled said they believe the presidential election has brought out the worst in people. Only 4 percent say the election has brought out the best in people—and that seems a bit high, doesn't it?"

Trooper York said...

It is always revealing when the mask slips and the real monsters underneath poke out their ugly mugs.

This is an election where you can't paper over the fundamental differences between people who put America and American interests first and those who have another agenda. That is why so many so called "conservative" politicians and pundits have been exposed as the lying sacks of shit that they have always been.

The Deplorables are not going to roll over and show their bellies no matter how much you might carp and bitch.

Rhythm and Balls said...

There are only two types of people in America, Trump-lovers and Hillary-lovers, and anyone who tells you differently is a lying sack of shit who needs to be taken out back and beaten like in the old days until they admit this obvious truth about how black-and-white the American voting public really is.

But now that the goofy religious stuff is out of the way, the reality is that there are Hillary-haters and Trump-haters. And a whole lot varying shades of gray in between with all sorts of people who hate one a little less so than the other. That's the reality, but the lovers only see love in their hate for the other so everyone else must obviously be made to fall in line. That's how lovers are; you're either with your fiance or they will kill you. You're either with their bodyguard or they will kill you.

The silver lining is that both of these groups will be sorely disappointed in the near future. The losers of the election will face reality in November. And the ass-hackeys who win in November will be sorely disappointed over the next 4 years. (Or sooner, depending upon whether a good, ole impeachment can be managed).

Enjoy it, America!

edutcher said...

Don't count on that.Nobody thought Reagan would do as well as he did.

I suspect the same might be true of Trump.

AprilApple said...

RE-post from Big Bri

Us: Don't pick a shit sandwich candidate that wont win.

Beta's: We are gonna pick a shit sandwich candidate just BECAUSE you dont like him!

News: Trump loses

Beta's: Whhhhhaaaaaa, you are to blame!

Rhythm and Balls said...

I suspect the same might be true of Trump.

Well, I guess I might go on suspicion alone also if I was superstitious and so averse to the facts.

Trooper York said...

You are full of it April.

It is not the Beta's that picked Trump. It is the America people. The Republican grass roots. The Deplorables. The ones that scorned your preferred candidates like the psychotic ambitious Cruz or that faggot Rubio. You and the rest of the haters can't get over it.

Trooper York said...

I only hear from you when there is a poll when Trump is behind. When he is ahead you disappear. Polls don't mean jack shit. They will change fifty times before the election. The pollsters can rig them anyway they want. They are just a tool for the media to bash Trump.