Tuesday, July 19, 2016

Michelle and Melania

Link to video

45 comments:

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

More of an embarrassment for the speech writer than Melania, but I think Servative's tweet on this is spot on.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The speech writer, or whoever made that happen, is having a really good laugh.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

This is still the best ad ever. If Trump were smart (lol) (or for real)(lol) he'd find out who made that ad, and hire them.

Patrick said...

Two bit, amateur operation. Embarrassing!

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

It could also have been purposely done.

How else are people going to 'safely' compare Melania and Michelle and not get their nuts cut off by a racism charge?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Trump wants that comparison, but he had to give people an excuse to be able to do it safely.

It may not have been a coincidence that he introduced her himself. Was that a way of saying I'm behind this?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Here is everybody talking about first ladies...

Who was also a first lady again?

What happened at the White House when that first lady was first lady?

Yesterday, I saw a tweet with a picture of Monica Lewinsky claiming she just had lunch with a Clinton big shot.

Chip Ahoy said...

Did she say the part about being proud of America for the first time in her life?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

There is even a "rick roll" reference in that speech, Melania was set up. The question is was it a covert Hillary operative or a #NeverTrumper?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Maybe we should consider the differences between Melania and Michelle's speeches...

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

"Did she say the part about being proud of America for the first time in her life?"

No, but, by repeating the positive in Michelle's speech Melania in effect said, with me you get the good but not the bad... or something.

You remember when Hillary or was it Bill? who said with us you get two for the price of one?

Trump needs Melania big time.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Fits in nicely with the "duped" theme.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I watched Rudy. He was OK. The whole convention looks lame and amateurish. So sad. What an opportunity lost.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

If it's true that Hillary represents a third Obama term, then Michelle is a part of that. I don't believe she ever did better than Obama in the polls. At least that's my impression.

What other way could you get the press to play up a side by side video of Melania and Michelle? Never, not in a million years.

You see that side by side screen shot and what are you going to think?

Leland said...

I'm agreeing with Lem on this.

Methadras said...

Michelle: Melania, here try this portion of the speech. It worked for me and the suckers believed it.

Melania: Oh thank you Michelle, I will take this and try it out. OMG!!! It really worked. They totally believed it. Is it hot in here or did my boobs get bigger. Donald, come look.

Donald: HUGE!!! HUGE!!!

Trooper York said...

I think Lem is on to something.

Just look at the picture. Forget about the speeches. They will be forgotten about tomorrow. but the optics are what counts.

Trooper York said...

But like most things what we want to blame malice is really the result of incompetence. They had some intern look up First Lady Speeches and they plagiarize. I bet it was a millennial who went through college that way.

I know Melania is going to have a lot to say in her diary tonight.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

When you're trying to lose to Hillary, this all makes sense.

edutcher said...

Compare?

You must be joking.

But, if you look at how Puffington freaked out over her, Melania must have made quite a hit.

Even Jack Kennedy's much-quoted inaugural speech had pieces drawn from other sources. The "it's plagiarized" nonsense is because Melania apparently came off well.

AprilApple said...

I watched Rudy. He was OK. The whole convention looks lame and amateurish. So sad. What an opportunity lost.

Yes, April wants a hate-fest, filled to the rafters with shrieking invective.

Good luck on that. Been tried, doesn't work.

Trooper York said...

Just look at the picture. Forget about the speeches. They will be forgotten about tomorrow. but the optics are what counts.

That's it. The tone for the convention is basically positive, upbeat and is reflected in how the speakers come off.

Melania comes off as a bright, accomplished woman (love to see Ivana say a few words) who loves being an American.

And we all know about Moochelle.

Trooper York said...

No April. If you look at the Rick Roll stuff you see it is intentional sabotage. Smart ass millennials who want to sign their work. Most likely by establishment Republicans who were rolled into the Trump campaign. These are the same types who submarined Sarah Palin and couldn't wait to sabotage her in the media and go on talk shows to say how terrible a candidate. I would suspect someone like you. Who claims they will vote for Trump but really want the same corporate duopoly that has already been in charge.

Unfortunately Trump had to open up his campaign. Most of the Republican operatives hate him because he is not hiring them. This debacle only illustrates the fact that he should not trust anyone outside of his circle.

Paul Manafort should resign to be honest. Corey is right.

This is only a fart in the wind. It gives something to the media to attack Melania with. I don't think that is going to play so well. Well not with heterosexual men. We are just going to look at her tits. The faggots are going to get all pissy. But they are Democrats anyway so who cares.

edutcher said...

Speaking of comparing babes, the Demos will have the Gentle Giant's mother speaking next week, while Trump had Sean Smith's mother speak.

I wonder which will make the better impression?

Trooper York said...

Ed pay attention. Ivana is Trump's ex wife. Who supports him. Who never walked into traffic to get away from him unlike other wives we could talk about.

Ivanka is his daughter who you were referring to and who will speak before her father.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Troop - I'm not attacking Melania. This isn't her fault, and if the media are attacking her (ugly Tim Curry look-a-likes on MSDNC *Sally Kohn*) then they are petty and mean.

The RNC was punked. Angry insider? possibly. Speech writers are usually lefties. It could be a democrat mole, too. Whatever the case, it makes the GOP look stupid. I think it was a mole. but who knows.

Here is this guy's opinion. Sabotage in Cleveland?

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Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Or - I am right and Donny made a deal with the devil.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

It doesn't surprise me this happened. Perhaps it will wake-up a few lazy insiders? There are moles. Democrats will do anything to drag their corrupt queen across the finish line.

Trooper York said...

April I am sure it is sabotage. The Rick Roll stuff proves it. It is the chance you take when you bring in outsiders who supported other candidates.

But it doesn't really matter. These are the growing pains that a campaign always have in a convention.

Do you remember the convention when Reagan was nominated? I do. Do you remember how the establishment Democrats tried to force Reagan on to the ticket as his Vice President? To give him gravitas and to "reassure" the American Pulbic that there were adults in the room? Reagan considered it until the demands that Ford made was so ridiculous that he blew it up. He fired a lot of Republican operatives and went with his own guy Laxalt. He picked Bush as a sop but knew he would do as he was told. Trump already did this with Pence. He just needs to keep being Trump. Just like Reagan had to be Reagan. That is the path to victory.

edutcher said...

Troop, my point was how many guys running for public office could put their ex on the podium and not sweat every word she'd say?

Ivana's behind him 1000% and I think I'm the first one to quote the interview, but, damn, talk about optics.

"She's his ex and even she likes him? He must be a great guy".

That was my point.

But I agree with your point about BlackLives. Only so much time, I guess...

AprilApple said...

Troop - I'm not attacking Melania. This isn't her fault, and if the media are attacking her (ugly Tim Curry look-a-likes on MSDNC *Sally Kohn*) then they are petty and mean.

The RNC was punked. Angry insider? possibly. Speech writers are usually lefties. It could be a democrat mole, too. Whatever the case, it makes the GOP look stupid. I think it was a mole. but who knows.

Here is this guy's opinion. Sabotage in Cleveland?


Who is this guy that we should care? If you want somebody who's called it right all year, try this one.

There are moles. Democrats will do anything to drag their corrupt queen across the finish line.

Maybe it's just a NeverTrumper sorehead.

PS April is quoting Chuck Todd this afternoon, but, aside from a few wonks, how many people care? She looked good, sounded great, was more upbeat than Moochelle (the Grim Reaper could do that), and came across that she loved her adopted country.

That's what your average viewer saw. And that's what they wanted.

PPS For those interested, good Surber piece on the convention vs the CO "primary".

Trooper York said...

Sorry. What they tried to do is force Ex-President Gerald Ford on the ticket as VP. He had visions of being a co-president and when he came up with that all bets were off. I remember it well.

All the pundits said that Reagan had to take on Ford to have a chance to win. Which was bullshit. Just as when they say that Trump has to have all the losers like Cruz and Rubio and Kasich on board. The voters are what counts. Trump is a populist. That means he has to appeal to the people. Not the politicians. He can get all the pundits and politicians but if he loses the people he doesn't have a chance.

Synova said...

It can be the same speech without being plagiarized. Does it have the same outline or the same phrases?

The Dude said...

The RNC makes the RNC look bad.

Trooper York said...

It has some of the same stock phrases. It is not direct lift like Bidens theft of Neil Kinnocks speech.

edutcher said...

Keep in mind Trump gave both Cruz and Rubio chances to speak. He didn't have to and, given some people call him a bully, it shows how magnanimous he's being.

Little Marco carried but one state and the One True Ted bribed his way into the delegations of several states and pulled more than a few dirty tricks elsewhere. Anybody who thinks either of them, or Kasich, are that big should remember

Trump Cruz Rubio Kasich
1543 559 165 161

Trooper York said...

It has some of the same stock phrases. It is not direct lift like Bidens theft of Neil Kinnocks speech.

Exactly. It's a First Lady speech.

The Dude said...

My brother wants this engraved on his .308:

1 Praise be to the Lord my Rock,
who trains my hands for war,
my fingers for battle.
2 He is my loving God and my fortress,
my stronghold and my deliverer,
my shield, in whom I take refuge,
who subdues peoples under me.
3 Lord, what are human beings that you care for them,
mere mortals that you think of them?
4 They are like a breath;
their days are like a fleeting shadow.
5 Part your heavens, Lord, and come down;
touch the mountains, so that they smoke.
6 Send forth lightning and scatter the enemy;
shoot your arrows and rout them.
7 Reach down your hand from on high;
deliver me and rescue me
from the mighty waters,
from the hands of foreigners
8 whose mouths are full of lies,
whose right hands are deceitful.
9 I will sing a new song to you, my God;
on the ten-stringed lyre I will make music to you,
10 to the One who gives victory to kings,
who delivers his servant David.
From the deadly sword 11 deliver me;
rescue me from the hands of foreigners
whose mouths are full of lies,
whose right hands are deceitful.
12 Then our sons in their youth
will be like well-nurtured plants,
and our daughters will be like pillars
carved to adorn a palace.
13 Our barns will be filled
with every kind of provision.
Our sheep will increase by thousands,
by tens of thousands in our fields;
14 our oxen will draw heavy loads.
There will be no breaching of walls,
no going into captivity,
no cry of distress in our streets.
15 Blessed is the people of whom this is true;
blessed is the people whose God is the Lord.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Sixty: That is a lot to engrave, but a good passage to go with.

The Dude said...

Maybe he meant engrave just "Psalm 144", leaving the rest for the student.

edutcher said...

Not that it makes any difference, but Christe is sticking up for Melania on the grounds the speech is 93% original.

I guess he wants the Civil Rights Division at DOJ, after all.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Sixty: I am all for citations

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

NBC pro-Hillary news obsessed over the "plagiarism".

Amartel said...

The plagiarism thing is so stupid. It didn't even occur to me that it would be a big deal. But there it is all over the news. Obama plagiarized, Biden (that moron) plagiarized. None of them write their own speeches. And those guys were candidates for office. Mrs. Trump is a wife and mother so who cares? At least she's not going to fuck around with school lunches. That's guaranteed.
While the rubes and parrots of the left are celebrating this story it's just one more opportunity to point out their hypocrisy, the media double standard, and the plagiarizing of Obama and Biden. So thanks, Mrs. Trump! I'm not Scott Adamsish enough to think this was planned deep strategery, but it sure is working out well.

Amartel said...

ed you are such a throne sniffer.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

ABC CBS NBC - full on anti-GOp Pro-Democrat. They don't even try to hide it.

chickelit said...

Lem wrote: Yesterday, I saw a tweet with a picture of Monica Lewinsky claiming she just had lunch with a Clinton big shot.

Come again? A big shot of what?

Methadras said...

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Sixty: That is a lot to engrave, but a good passage to go with.


You can run that right down the barrel.