Sunday, May 1, 2016

"Free will could all be an illusion..."

"Research adds to evidence suggesting 'even our most seemingly ironclad beliefs about our own agency and conscious experience can be dead wrong'"
The idea was tested out by tricking subjects into believing that they had made a choice before the consequences of that choice could actually be seen. In the test, people were made to believe that they had taken a decision using free will – even though that was impossible.
The idea that human beings trick themselves into believing in free will was laid out in a paper by psychologists Dan Wegner and Thalia Wheatley nearly 20 years ago. They proposed the feeling of wanting to do something was real, but there may be no connection between the feeling and actually doing it....
In one of the studies undertaken by Adam Bear and Paul Bloom, of Princeton University, the test subjects were shown five white circles on a computer monitor. They were told to choose one of the circles before one of them lit up red.
The participants were then asked to describe whether they’d picked the correct circle, another one, or if they hadn’t had time to actually pick one.
Statistically, people should have picked the right circle about one out of every five times. But they reported getting it right much more than 20 per cent of the time, going over 30 per cent if the circle turned red very quickly.
The scientists suggest that the findings show that the test subjects’ minds were swapping around the order of events, so that it appeared that they had chosen the right circle – even if they hadn’t actually had time to do so.
The idea of free will may have arisen because it is a useful thing to have, giving people a feeling of control over their lives and allowing for people to be punished for wrongdoing.
But that same feeling can go awry, the scientists wrote in the Scientific American magazine. It may be important for people to feel they are control of their lives, for instance, but distortions in that same process might make people feel that they have control over external processes like the weather.

5 comments:

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

Free will is an illusion if you think democrats will save you with their ObamaCare Single Payer Welfare State of illegals, punitive tax rates and money waste for the Huger Games elite.

ndspinelli said...

Free will is a fundamental part of most all organized religion. We can make holy choices or unholy ones. Men are biologically wired to reproduce but religion tells them they must control that by using their good free will. However, like most everything, I think it's a spectrum. Some people are very willful and may be higher on the scale toward being people w/ free will, but not perfect free will. Then there are those vapid, impulsive people w/o anything resembling free will. They sit @ home watching reality TV and eating Cheetos.

Three very good posts this morning. Interesting. Eclectic. Kudos to Chip and Lem.

Steg said...

"If you choose not to decide- you still have made a choice!" - Rush

Then there was one of the best web comics ever: Goats.

A fun goofy comic based around Jon Rosenberg and his programmer friend Philip. They have Diablo the talking chicken, Toothgnip the goat, and Fineas/Fish. A good read if you do it from the beginning and watch the writer find his groove as well as develop his art. I love reading comics where the writer/artist starts very aesthetically awful and keeps at it to become a powerhouse of creativity. Penny Arcade was the big name comic that helped bring it more mainstream... well, in terms of gamers.

OK so my point about goats was this strip:

http://goats.com/comic/2007/03/08/march-08-2007/

fast forward a few strips: http://goats.com/comic/2007/04/19/april-19-2007/

They have a really philosophical storyline while at the same time being goofy and offensive. Thoughtful and inane at the same time.

This comic 1/0:

http://www.undefined.net/1/0/?strip=1

It was the writer/artist's philosophy experiment. He had a set goal, a beginning and an end, and just goes through it. I found it immensely entertaining and thoughtful. He interacts with his creations, and there is no fourth wall.

Methadras said...

Of course free will is an illusion, but please don't take my right to choose to ignore it.

rhhardin said...

Illusion to who?