I don't think it's gonna go that far. The Donald will cut what deals are needed. Kasich, Rubio, maybe even Ryan. As Troop noted, the closer you get to the One True Ted, the stronger the urge to walk into rush hour expressway traffic.
"I don't think it's gonna go that far. The Donald will cut what deals are needed. Kasich, Rubio, maybe even Ryan. As Troop noted, the closer you get to the One True Ted, the stronger the urge to walk into rush hour expressway traffic."
I'll hold you to this, but it seems like a fairy tale.
Again, I heard Rush trying to justify how CO wasn't a fix because the GOPe changed the rules back in August to try and steer it towards someone like Jeb or Marco. And yet, I sent him an email asking him who in CO besides the GOPe knew of the rule changes and disseminated it. Then he trots out the Denver Post editorial back in February as proof that because of that editorial the people of CO should have known about the rules changes. Then I shot him back another email asking him what the subscription numbers were for their newspaper? Crickets.
From what I've read, it wasn't so much the Cruz people who "outworked" Trump, it was the Republican party and Republican party money. It's downright Althousian.
Exactly. Those rules were really for Jeb!, who I think was supposed to be the Anointed One, if he got into trouble on his way to the nomination. As getting to 1237 from 4 whole delegates seemed a bridge too far, the other Bush family candidate has no ethical problems using them.
deborah said...
I'll hold you to this, but it seems like a fairy tale.
Manafort is already working with Kasich to keep Cruz at bay and, if Rubio wanted to help Cruz or turn his delegates over to him, he'd have done it, so, given the fact Rubio went out of his way to make sure those delegates stayed under his control after der SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei expressed a predatory interest, it seems reasonable to presume he's waiting for the right moment.
PS Meth, what happened in CO is also happening in SD and WY. This crowd gives slime a bad name.
FWIW Trump was finally certified the winner of the MO primary (12 delegates), held a month ago* which the One True Ted lost by 1700 votes.
The Cruzzers tried to play their usual hanky pank, but Gateway, Drudge, Last Refuge, and us, in our own small way, turned up the heat and shone a bright light on the Cruzist malefactors.
* Hillary beat Bernie by 1500 votes and was certified the next day.
It's to late for the GOPe. They fucked themselves with CO and hope they burn in hell and get the strung up by their scrawny necks and their carcasses pulverized swinging in the wind. They are scumbags and Preibus is the #1 scumbag for letting this get out of hand like this.
Trump thinks these party rules are a negotiation (like a business deal). Ultimately they some of that, but it is way more like chess and Trump is playing this like checkers.
Low. Energy.
Best move Trump made was getting Lewandowski out of the mix and bringing on Manafort. But it may be too late for Trump.
And I agree, the GOPe might as be Game of Throne's Roose Bolton to Ted Cruz's Rob Stark. Red Wedding in Cleveland!
Sorry, this is as un-American and undemocratic a thing as can be imagined and all the excuses in the world won't change it.
I noticed your boy trying to weasel out of it last night saying 65,000 people voted. Wow! 65,000 people in the whole state of CO. The heat must really be something coming back at him. His apparatchiks in MO had to finally certify Trump was the winner.
Who the Hell do you think you're kidding?
deborah said...
Meth, accd to NRO, the rules were published online last September:
Question: Has anybody but the One true Ted tried to do anything with them.
Whatever happened to the will of the people? Seems like everybody was willing to abide by it, but Cruz - the One True Conservative, Defender of the Constitution, Protector of the Little Guy.
Hey, guys, did you know the One True Ted has had his records sealed just like Preisent Pissy?
Ed, I honestly don't get the disconnect between your knowledge of campaign happenings and your puzzlement over DNC procedural rules. Those are the rules. That's how the system operates. Political beings show up and fight for their people. Drive-by voters excited by the latest thing are clueless about the way the political parties operate. If the rules are to be changed, more people need to get involved.
Rush is now talking about the Democrat and Republican Parties being private organizations. Ergo who they make their standard bearers is independent of the public will as expressed in primaries. Those weren't his exact words but that's what I took away from his emphasis on "private organizations." I understand that both parties have private staff without whom they couldn't function. And that staff is payed out of party coffers. But the "business" of both parties is competing for office in the public sector, the government. Okay, I'm lost. How can they be private?
"But Trump fired his campaign’s organizer in the state just a week before the state GOP’s convention last Saturday, where the final 13 delegates were selected. (Cruz had already picked up an additional 21 Colorado delegates in a series of seven congressional-district conventions.) The replacement manager printed up a slate to guide Trump supporters, but it was, according to CNN, "riddled with errors," including incorrect delegate numbers and, in one case, the name of a Cruz delegate. At the last minute, Trump’s team reprinted the flier listing the Trump slate, but the second print also contained errors.
Cruz, meanwhile, posted his—accurate—delegate slate on a giant screen in the convention hall, and printed it out on a bright orange t-shirt that his supporters wore around the convention.
The point isn’t the particulars of the arcane rules themselves. And it’s not even the delegate "points" Cruz put on the board in Colorado. The point is that Trump desperately needs every delegate he can possible pick up in order to win, and yet he appears totally unprepared and unable to handle the organizational and managerial challenges of doing so.
Nor is Colorado the only state in which Trump’s incompetence has been on display: As a result of not engaging with the particulars of the process, he also lost delegates to Cruz in both South Carolina and Louisiana.
Trump is not simply disorganized. He appears to have been totally unaware of the requirements in some of these states. Trump was apparently told by senior officials with the Republican National Committee recently that his campaign needed to be prepared to fight for delegates in states like Colorado. Upon hearing this, according to The New York Times, "Trump turned to his aides and suggested that they had not been doing what they needed to do." Trump, in other words, paid little attention to the process himself, and left mission-critical campaign projects to unprepared staff." ~ reason.com
As I've tried to point out since early on with my own factual examples, the man just isn't any good at the very thing that is supposedly his core competency and main qualification.
The lies, false accusations and whining from Trump and Trumpers has managed to damage both him and Cruz against Hillary, but especially him, and this is before any of the Dems' arsenal of opposition research gets unleashed on Trump, and they are already bragging about how bad that stuff is. I believe them, because I have not averted my eyes from what's out there. Remember, I was excited about Trump too before I learned better.
Ed, I honestly don't get the disconnect between your knowledge of campaign happenings and your puzzlement over DNC procedural rules. Those are the rules. That's how the system operates. Political beings show up and fight for their people.
When the "rules" exist clearly to freeze out the rank and file of the party, it seems to me we're looking at a process where we've gone back to the smoke-filled room where the public, and the Party supporters expected to support the party's choice, aren't allowed or wanted.
The Cruz crowd, who are supposedly all doctrinaire Conservatives who believe in government of the people, by the people, and for the people and the sanctity of the Constitution as written, participate in a system to deny the people access to that process, it seems awfully hypocritical to me. I also find it hypocritical that a Trump supporter couldn't even get his entry on the ballot because a Cruz guy had been printed twice.
If those are the "rules", then the rules are crooked. If the people who participate in them try to call themselves good Conservatives and expect me to agree, I call them liars.
After what we've seen of the "rules" this year, in UT where they were passed down the line by the dozens, in not only CO, but ND and WY, where only the party machines get a vote, in WI where complaints of vote flipping are ignored because Teddy stuck to the "rules" and slipped his people in as heads of county election boards, the idea that "well, they're the rules" doesn't wash. That's what Tammany Hall was all about. Hell, it was the rules at one time you could hang a slave if he ran away. Just because they're the rules doesn't make them good. Or right.
And I go back to the point I keep making and never seem to get an answer. Why is it that only Cruz has tried to take advantage of this? Why not Rubio or Kasich or Jeb!?
Apparently the old idea that "The people have spoken" doesn't apply to Anointed Ones.
The Trump organization was lean so it could move quickly to change with new developments, but I don't think they, or anyone else, expected this kind of behind-the-back operation. The Cruzzers have to make the excuse "Well, it's the rules" because they know most people would be repelled by it as un-American and undemocratic. Yeah, it's what you expect from a sleazy ambulance chasing lawyer, but everybody else was playing by the real rules - let the people's will stand. Cruz goes with the Roberts Court's rules - the law is what we say it is for only the time we say it is. Cruz tried selling himself as the Only True Conservative, but he couldn't win, so he transformed himself into William Marcy Tweed and tries to win in the backroom.
Hell, this is what Hillary pulls on Bernie because she can't win half the important states.
PS I'll forgive your Freudian slip of DNC. I know you meant RNC, but, yeah, it's not what you would have expected even 5 years ago from the republicans.
Five years there was no Trump. The point of these parties is to control the nomination. The point of a Republic is to hopefully avoid demagogues.
I said recently the Trump could be a breath of fresh air, who could make decisions on the fly. Without kow-towing to polling and interest groups. Cruz and Hillary are wrapped so tight, as presidents, they will be beholden to their interest groups.
But the RULES won't be changed in the future without participation other than the party insiders. And of course, party insiders are wrapped tight and love that kind of thing. Most people are not.
Five years there was no Trump. The point of these parties is to control the nomination. The point of a Republic is to hopefully avoid demagogues.
I said recently the Trump could be a breath of fresh air, who could make decisions on the fly. Without kow-towing to polling and interest groups. Cruz and Hillary are wrapped so tight, as presidents, they will be beholden to their interest groups.
But the RULES won't be changed in the future without participation other than the party insiders. And of course, party insiders are wrapped tight and love that kind of thing. Most people are not.
Don't know how into American history you might be, but this is the sort of thing we had in the Gilded Age. In fact, I've taken to calling the Obamanation Gilded Age II and this fits right in. Eventually, due to muckraking journalists like Thomas Nast, people found out what was going, got real fed up, and the "rules" were made to change.
The heat brought by Drudge and public outcry is the only way to get those rules changed.
PS Most of the "rules", as you noted, only came out last August.
BTW what do you think the Cruzzers will say when the McConnell crowd pulls a fast one on the third ballot and the "rules" suddenly freeze them out?
You know and I know any of us could be hauled into Federal court at any time and charged, tried, convicted, and imprisoned on a dozen charges we didn't even know existed. We all think that's unfair.
I'm going to say it again. Who in CO saw the rules published? Look, I get that it's a rules issue, but all this does is cement the idea that the GOPe subverted, through the rules, the ability for the people to vote on their guy, whoever that is. Only to hand it to another guy. This is the very example of disenfranchisement and subversion. I don't give a shit who changed the rules, but the fact that the rules were changed to advantage a specific person is even worse.
where you holding your empty nut-sack and turned your head to the left when you coughed? Were you wearing shorts with socks and sandals as punishment too?
Evidently some of the people in Colorado have decided that they have had enough of the party elites controlling the process, changing the rules and excluding their voices.
Meth, if Trump had been on the ball he'd have had his people in place fighting for him. He was wagering on hitting 1237, it didn't pan out, and now he has to scramble.
BTW what do you think the Cruzzers will say when the McConnell crowd pulls a fast one on the third ballot and the "rules" suddenly freeze them out?
So how do you suggest the rules be changed. The obvious answer is for We the People to take more interest.
If a group were to take this to court, what do you think the jury would decide? How would the judge rule?
That's what Rush is saying in my post title.
Streamline them, make them subject to RNC and FEC approval*. If you read the WI rules for delegate apportionment, you'd have seen it was a system made to be abused
Make delegate selection a vote (I like closed primaries, myself). IIRC, it used to be delegates were bound to the candidate until the candidate released them. That's a good system, whey not keep it?
As for a jury, I think most people would react unfavorably to a closed, opaque system designed to keep as much power in the hands of a few party bosses (back to the Gilded Age). As for the judge, are there any honest ones?
Sounds like my 5th Grade history final.
Were you ever a teacher?
PS Meth has a point. Were the rules ever made public? Seems like they should have been.
Frankly, the veil has finally been lifted off the scam that the GOPe has been running for a long time now. I admit that I didn't think they would be culpable in the very thing they advocated against, which was voter fraud and disenfranchisement and now look what we have, the GOPe engaging in the very same ugly cheating via rules manipulations. Originally they set up the rules so that the delegates go to Jeb/Marco, but it turns out that the CO GOPe wanted them to go to Rubio instead:
Then it belies the fact that people in Texas who voted for Trump saw their votes change for Rubio as well. Only to see the win go to Cruz. Interesting that huh. Now, we hear the refrain of well, the rules changed in August, but when you don't hear is that they were done to accomodate one candidate winning. Since both of those mallet heads aren't there anymore come CO caucus, Cruz walks in and gets the win, takes a victory lap for showing up.
Ed, rules changes can be made public, but who knew that they were. Was there notification of a new rules change? Who did that get disseminated too? Clearly a lot of people in CO didn't know about the rules changes and not a lot of people knew that there was even a discussion about them, only to show up and get turned away?
This is shit that the democrats do in the middle of the night on a weekend when no one is looking. That's how the ACA got passed. Why is the GOPe any different now? Glad I left the party 8 years ago.
"All they did was show that one man/one vote is a bullshit pipe dream. They put the nail in the coffin of the republic. Fucking assholes should die."
And now that people have found out about it, we shall see what fallout there will be. I'm not sure, but isn't there enough delegates left to swing the momentum to Trump based on rule-footsie?
Jeebus. I just listened to a few minutes of Cruz on the Hannity radio show. Now, I was a Cruz or Trump guy and switched over to a Trump or Cruz guy and will vote for Cruz in the general if he gets that far, but Sweet Mother of Pearl, whoever invented the phrase "sanctimonious prick" must have been listening to Ted Cruz talk when they had their revelation. And that's with Hannity (who is a sanctimonious prick himself on a lesser scale) there to blunt the impression.
Bagoh - it's useless. Trump and his supporters take zero responsibility when Trump f*cks up. It's all The dastardly horrid GOPe of CO, its volunteers, the rules change back in August involving the non-binding straw-poll, and Cruz's Gestapo Nazi tactics.
Cruz is a Nazi, donchaknow.
Trump - he's a Pyramid Scheme. Long live the Pyramid Scheme.
Ed, rules changes can be made public, but who knew that they were. Was there notification of a new rules change? Who did that get disseminated too? Clearly a lot of people in CO didn't know about the rules changes and not a lot of people knew that there was even a discussion about them, only to show up and get turned away?
That's the point. Where were they and were they easily accessed?
This is how stuff gets slipped by people all the time.
deborah said...
Ed, I don't find your translation of my post title useful. I know what Rush meant by it.
If you consider that the public could access the RNC site any time, yes it was made public.
Translation?
I make no pretense to be a lawyer. You asked the questions and I answered them. Granted, I'm a very straight-ahead guy and I try not to mince words. But consider how MO did it - the winner of each Congressional district got 5 delegates; the state winner got 12 more; end of story.
You can say what you will, but, if I vote for a Trump slate in my county, I should be able to get a Trump slate, a Cruz slate would strike me as vote theft.
And now that people have found out about it, we shall see what fallout there will be. I'm not sure, but isn't there enough delegates left to swing the momentum to Trump based on rule-footsie?
Back when Breitbart wasn't owned by a Cruzzer, Stone told them there were plans in the works to challenge all these funky delegates. With Manafort on board, you can bet on it.
Rabel said...
Now, I was a Cruz or Trump guy and switched over to a Trump or Cruz guy and will vote for Cruz in the general if he gets that far, but Sweet Mother of Pearl, whoever invented the phrase "sanctimonious prick" must have been listening to Ted Cruz talk when they had their revelation
First, I'm assuming there was an "if" intended after "Now,".
Second, you bring up why Cruz would be a worse candidate than Jeb! and why a lot of people are repelled by him (emphasis mine) even though you'd think it would be the marriage of the century - and I'm thinking Meth, DBQ, or Sixty (Troop and I are, of course, hopeless). The more you see of him (just like Hillary), the more you are turned off.
This guy is floating on the biggest ego trip in history (there a lot of articles on the Left-hand side of cyberspace that attest that Cruz is a far bigger narcissist than The Donald ever was) or he really buys what his father says, And God has given you an anointing to go to the battlefield. And what's the battlefield ? The battlefield is the marketplace. To go to the marketplace and occupy the land. To go to the marketplace and take dominion.
If that doesn't scare the Hell out of you, nothing will.
And we thought it was weird when the guy from San Fiasco called Pissy a Lightworker.
AprilApple said...
Cruz is a Nazi, donchaknow.
Hey, just because I called him the Reinhard Heydrich of American politics doesn't mean I think he's a Nazi.
I called him that because nobody, of all the people with whom he's allied himself in the last 4 months, thinks they can trust him and wonder who he's going to doublecross next.
When Kubis and Gabecik did in the Hangman of Europe, the entire Nazi elite breathed a sigh of relief. Clearly, McConnell and his people feel the same way.
"bag, you do know TownHall is bought and paid for with Cruz PAC money, right?"
And posting of Breitbart and Drudge almost exclusively as some kind of fair-minded sources is fine? Regardless, it wasn't Townhall who said it, but rather Registered voters in a poll.
You link NBC as some kind of counter as if they aren't salivating at the prospect of a Trump nomination. Notice how the Dems and their media are pretty much leaving Trump's record just lying there undisturbed. Trump loyalists imagine that Trump is being attacked relentlessly, but you have no idea what's in store if he's the nominee, and he won;t handle it well, especially in the eyes of those not already enthralled. He's being handled with kit gloves so far, because they want him to be the face of the Republicans party, and most Republicans do not for the same reasons, which is why it's Republicans giving him the most shit.
Bags - you do know that all anti-Trump anything is now considered propaganda, right?
(btw - did you get your Cruz check in the mail like I did? I told Cruz he better pay up if he thinks I'm going to continue to pony the line for him.)
All the intellectuals on the right who cannot stand the fraud Trump, are the real frauds! All who are left Breitbart, Jim Hoft, and Drudge. Sad and lonely hucksters igniting the angry white guy party.
bag, you do know TownHall is bought and paid for with Cruz PAC money, right?
And posting of Breitbart and Drudge almost exclusively as some kind of fair-minded sources is fine? Regardless, it wasn't Townhall who said it, but rather Registered voters in a poll.
Cruz and McConnell have bought off half the blogosphere, so the truth is tough to find. As for polls, Here's one that knocks yours into a cocked hat - Hillary leads Trump by only 2. and it's not 2 months old.
AprilApple said...
All who are left Breitbart, Jim Hoft, and Drudge. Sad and lonely hucksters igniting the angry white guy party.
You didn't get the memo. Breitbart is now owned by a Cruzzer. Quick! Go over and bask in its light! But, yeah, the Cruz-McConnell alliance has bought and paid for lots of people. You missed it during one of the times you were stamping your foot, singing, "La La La La La I can't hear you".
Damn, the heat must have really been cranked up on the DC Adulterer for all this misdirection.
April, I get my check weekly. I always send it along to the Establishment, where I was told it will be used to pay off my Trump University bill. They had really good donuts there, just amazing donuts, absolutely incredible donuts. There were never any left when I got there, but I was told about them.
Trump University really opened doors. oh - those donuts, you have no idea. They were fantastic, really great, amazing, really really great and amazing.
"AprilApple said: Bagoh - it's useless. Trump and his supporters take zero responsibility when Trump f*cks up."
That's simply not true. I have listed many times when I thought that Trump fucked up.
He should have had delegate counters in Colorado. You can't assume that the establishment would fight fair. He should have lawyers in every state poised to prevent Cruz from subverting the election results. He should now know what kind of guy Cruz is and act accordingly. He should not have backed down from that event in Chicago. He should have went ahead and demanded that the police arrest the protestors who were blocking his fans. The cops claimed it wasn't a problem. He should have taken him at their word. He should have refused to debate if Megyn Kelly was a moderator. He should have singled her as an example of a partisan. Megyn Kelly has Heidi Cruz on her show tonight. He needed to isolate her and make an example of her. Even more so than he did. He could go on Greta and Bill O'Reilly and Hannity and isolate her and her show as the sham that it is. Trump should point out how Ted Cruz supports the endless wars in the Middle East that are destroying our military and our standing in the world. Trump should point out that Ted Cruz is at the beck and call of the oil industry and carries water for the House of Saud. Trump should point out every day how Ted Cruz couldn't organize a gang bang in a whorehouse and he should be able to since he has enough experience in one to know what to do.
There are many things I think Trump fucks up. He is far from perfect. He is not what you think Ted Cruz is. The next time I see youse guys criticize Cruz will be the first time. You know using concrete examples such as his inability to pass legislation or to get the Republican party behind his initiatives. I know he is the most conservative man in the world. You must know he is a tool. In every sense of the word.
I talk about the oil companies at the risk of being accused of spouting left wing cant. I come at it from a different perspective. I would free the oil companies to give us cheap energy. I would allow much more off shore drilling. I would unlease domestic consumption. I would unshackle the fracking industry. I want 50 cents a gallon gasoline.
I would however hammer the House of Saud and the Iranians and all the Muslim countries that finance terror with petrodollars. I would force them out of the US market and bankrupt them.
And if there one thing Donald Trump knows it is how to drive someone into bankruptcy.
Tell me, dear, when did the Peacock go from anything but hard Left?
I understand how embarrassed you guys are by the weekend's revelations.
Your Anointed One (with the connivance of a McConnell super-PAC, no less) has to pay people huge bucks to lie for him.
Drudge tells the world how he really feels about the Constitution and fair play and the right to vote and boring stuff like that.
And then the blowback must have been so fearsome that even the One True Ted had to send out a tweet telling us how a whole 65,000 people out of all the millions of Republicans in CO voted for him and him alone.
Now the word is any site that doesn't spout Cruzist propaganda lies. Don't think it's gonna work.
Oh, and, April, just because Paul Manafort said Daddy Cruz used Gestapo tactics didn't mean he was making an accusation.
Just a highly invidious comparison.
BTW, I hear the going rate for Cruz trolls is $9.50/hr. You guys are getting screwed.
Troop, Megyn Kelly is the only host on Fox who is not kissing up to Trump. That should be respected not attacked. She is the only one who ever asked him a tough question. If he's the guy you think he is, that would be no problem for him, but he's not. He ran away from her, and he ran away from Cruz, and he did it so you wouldn't see him exposed. You should ask yourself why you think that's a good thing. Do you thinks it's good that voters don't know about the candidates, because the Democrats are gonna make sure they do, and at the worst possible time.
If Trump debated Cruz and got exposed as a know-nothing completely unprepared for the job and it was so bad that he lost the nomination overnight, would that be good or bad? As someone who supports Cruz, I'd be elated if it happened the other way around and I'd become a Trumper that night. I don't care which guy gets it, but that we pick him smartly and openly, and that he proves he can stand up to the fight, not just fling crap and runaway. Trump has been running from the fight - the real head to head fight, but it's coming anyway, and he looks clearly unprepared for it.
As I understand it as long as you are not mentioned you would not post here. I would not for instance post at your wifes blog in response. You have been a gentleman and have not posted until you were mentioned. As far as I have seen. I would hope we could keep that up. I will delete any mention of you in my posts and I would hope other contributors would do the same. Of course as you well know you can not control what someone will post. Especially obvious sock puppets. But I agree with you that it should be deleted since it is unfair to attack you and you not be able to respond.
Why does Milton Zenobia feel so threatened by Ann Althouse's husband? I detect much envy. Were some of you felling jilted when she chose Larry over you fellows. This means you Sixty Grits. I think Lem should not comment over at Althouse's blog if he doesn't welcome Larry's comments here.
You miss my point bags. Trump is not afraid of Megyn Kelly. She is a media whore and opportunist of the first water. She pretends that she can ask tough questions and then demands that Bill O'Reilly defend her. It is like a reporter demanding to be part of the physical nasty press scrum and then crying when they get knocked down. Megyn Kelly is the enemy. The press is the enemy. Trump is the best at coopting their agenda and turning it back on them. I admit he got fooled by Megyn's pretty face. He didn't go after her the way he went after Rosie O'Donnell because she is cute. She uses that. There is a reason why Helen Thomas doesn't have a prime time show. (Besides the fact that she is dead)
He doesn't need her. She is trying to build her career on attacking him. She can't cry if she gets a few shots back. No I take that back. She will cry and piss and moan. Because she is a hack and a poseur and needs to be exposed.Trump is exposing the Conservative Media. He did it to someone I used to respect in Mark Levin. I didn't know about that crooked book deal. Trump is turning over a lot of rocks. And I know a cockroach when I see one. Even if she is a cute blond.
I would like to clear one thing up. I did not email Lem to ask him to tell you not to post here. I did delete you in all of my posts. As I will continue to do. I did go over to TOP and ask why you had to troll here. But I thought that it should be each individual contributors choice in the matter as to whether or not they wanted your contributions to their posts.
As I understand it Lem asked you to desist and you agreed. I thank you for that. It was the gentlemanly thing to do.
Ok now you are getting ridiculous. Not every mention of cunt refers to you. I could see where you might think so because it fits but really you have to get over yourself. Seriously.
I think Lem understands what is going on here very clearly and doesn't need advice from anyone. He is a great leader of this blog and has done an excellent job.
On the contrary, Blooper Pork, I think Lem needs some shoring up. He's a good soul and obviously has given in to your demands to banish Larry. Why are you so jealous of Althouse's blogging success? You seem so bitter. That can't be healthy.
Troop, just like the Cruz affairs, the Cruz cheating, the 9/11 celebration on the roof, the reporter that was never touched, the reporter with the mysterious pen, the Megyn Kelly agenda, the Levin Book deal was a lie. You guys spew this stuff and seem to just ignore or refuse to learn that it all turned out false. You simply don't want to know the truth about Trump, because it's very inconvenient.
Again, would you drop Trump if in a debate he turned to be a completely uninformed and foolish on the issues? Because that's the choice I think the American voters will be presented sooner or later. It's what happened to Carson early on when I had hopes for him. I'm glad I found out then and not in October.
Blooper, you think you can manipulate everyone into believing you haven't been trying to take over this blog, since yours flopped. You're wrong, we all know what you've tried to do here at Lem's.
Ms. AprilApple, So sorry to see your friends here at Lem's have treated you like a step child. Seems like most Blooper and Mr.Ed don't tolerate anyone not on the Trump team.
Larry, That's good to hear, so then Lem should reciprocate and treat your comments here with respect, treat your wife with respect and tell the blog bullies here to behave themselves.
It also looks like Drudge's "Burn-it" dude is a liar or a conspiracy theorist who makes sh*t up for maximum flame... (if you rtwt) Not that Trump supporters are liars or conspiracy weirdos or anything. /// nah.
AprilApple, Trooper isn't fine. He is a master manipulator. Mr. Ed is simply more transparent in his Trump dementia. Don't be taken in by Trooper, he isn't your buddy and will gladly stab you in the back over any number of things.
Troop, just like the Cruz affairs, the Cruz cheating, the 9/11 celebration on the roof, the reporter that was never touched, the reporter with the mysterious pen, the Megyn Kelly agenda, the Levin Book deal was a lie
Oh, and that adultery? You still haven't explained the Ashley Madison account, the half mil check to the Fiorina campaign, or Amanda Carpenter's Twitter stream.
Remember, it took a while to nail Gary Hart and John Edwards, but it happened.
Trooper and Mr.Ed will go along with political dirty tricks Trump plays on any one his opponents because that is how they roll. Birds of a feather. What type of person would identify with Trump, ask yourselves that?
Shorter ed: Walker will be indicted any minute now.... because the national enquirer/John Edwards and stuff... Please ignore the fact that Pecker gave Trump his endorsement.
shorter shorter ed: The tree house hath spoken! Insists it toss another heretic on the fire. Mark Levin - you are dead to ye of the tree.
Ed, it's all crap, but you don't care. You accept the lies no matter how ridiculous, and ignore the alternative explanations no matter how obvious because you need these lies to justify your support, and you don't need proof to pass them along. You accuse Cruz, and numerous other innocent people of terrible things with no proof whatsoever, just accusations. The exculpatory evidence and alternative explanations never passes your lips, never changes your mind, and it never will. Have you taken back any of the numerous attacks you have passed on in support of Trump. Were they all true? Do you even care?
Precinct meetings elected delegates to the county meetings. County delegates elected delegates to the congressional district meetings. Congressional district delegates elected delegates to the state convention.
Colorado has 2,995 precincts.
Was Trump organized in 2,995 precincts? No. Was Cruz? Unlikely.
Was the Republican party? Yep.
The party orchestrated the Colorado result, not Cruz.
But Cruz stole it!!!!!!!! I was told so by Drudge, and that new guy who works for Trump who replaced the old guy who knew nothing about how to win delegates in CO.
Cruz is just a tool. The establishment is using him to destroy Trump. They are not planning to accept him as the nominee. Do you really think that the likes of Lindsey Graham and John McCain and Mitt Romney are going to get behind Ted Cruz?
Let me ask you something. Is there anything that Cruz has done that gives you pause? Or are you doing the exact thing you accuse ed of? Taking claims and rumors and lies at face value when they are about Trump and ignoring them when they are about Cruz?
Ed, it's all crap, but you don't care. You accept the lies no matter how ridiculous, and ignore the alternative explanations no matter how obvious because you need these lies to justify your support, and you don't need proof to pass them along. You accuse Cruz, and numerous other innocent people of terrible things with no proof whatsoever, just accusations
Sure, they have the checks, the documents, people on tape, anything you want, but it's all irrelevant because you need to hate somebody.
Have you taken back any of the numerous attacks you have passed on in support of Trump. Were they all true?
Why should I? I documented damned near all of them. The source and the text. But truth doesn't matter, does it?
You have to worship a phony Conservative. His voting record has all kinds of holes in it, but that doesn't matter. He's the only anti-Trump left, so you love him.
Oy.
Rabel said...
The fix was in at the precinct level.
Sure. The issue is nobody else wanted to do it, but Cruz. And you do realize this took some time for his people to organize, but you don't see Rubio or Kasich trying to poach a few.
I had a lot of respect for Mark Levin. But something about this whole thing with the books rings false. If it is as he says not a big deal then he should just shrug it off. Why did he go nuclear? He was just as thin skinned about that as Trump was about the sexy Melania photo. They are both wrong. Big time.
I know there is a lot of chicanery in book sales and best seller list numbers. It is a well known fact. I didn't know that Levin's fiance's kid works for Cruz. That is a conflict of interest that he might have been wise to expose. I don't think it would effect his commentary but he yells when the mainstream media does stuff like that so he should know that he shouldn't do it either.
Cruz understood the rules going in and he participated. Cruz had a well organized ground game. Both Cruz and Bernie are more popular in CO. Trump and Hillary - most Coloradoan detest them. Trump didn't even come here for one single speech. Trump canceled his appearance here at the convention.
When it comes from the top, it's a plan, not a conspiracy. It would be a conspiracy if Cruz made any private promises to the party leadership for their support. He may have, but he didn't need too. The plan is to stop Trump. Ted's just a tool, a sanitary pad they're using to control the bleeding.
They'll replace him with a store brand tampon if they get the opportunity. Maxiflo.
Precisely. That's why all the talk of Ryan. They're going to do it, it's the timing that's tricky.
I think his poached delegates are a bargaining chip when the deals are cut.
Trump, having cut a deal with Kasich, Rubio, and maybe Walker for their delegates, will then approach the Whigs with an offer they can't refuse - I campaign for your guys if you lay off me. You keep control of Congress, I get the White House and not a lot of static for the next 4 years.
Cruz, in danger of being shut out, may well approach Trump with some kind of offer to give up his claims in exchange for, say, AG or a promise to back him for Governor of TX.
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I don't think it's gonna go that far. The Donald will cut what deals are needed. Kasich, Rubio, maybe even Ryan. As Troop noted, the closer you get to the One True Ted, the stronger the urge to walk into rush hour expressway traffic.
Also, Peacock has a hypothetical November - Cacklepants vs Trump - now it's down to 2.
PS Off the Daily Mail, The DC Madam had 174 groups in her client list FBI, IRS, State Department. The names are still restricted, but the One True Ted could make a convenient sacrificial goat if enough bigwigs needed to CYA.
"I don't think it's gonna go that far. The Donald will cut what deals are needed. Kasich, Rubio, maybe even Ryan. As Troop noted, the closer you get to the One True Ted, the stronger the urge to walk into rush hour expressway traffic."
I'll hold you to this, but it seems like a fairy tale.
Again, I heard Rush trying to justify how CO wasn't a fix because the GOPe changed the rules back in August to try and steer it towards someone like Jeb or Marco. And yet, I sent him an email asking him who in CO besides the GOPe knew of the rule changes and disseminated it. Then he trots out the Denver Post editorial back in February as proof that because of that editorial the people of CO should have known about the rules changes. Then I shot him back another email asking him what the subscription numbers were for their newspaper? Crickets.
From what I've read, it wasn't so much the Cruz people who "outworked" Trump, it was the Republican party and Republican party money. It's downright Althousian.
Exactly. Those rules were really for Jeb!, who I think was supposed to be the Anointed One, if he got into trouble on his way to the nomination. As getting to 1237 from 4 whole delegates seemed a bridge too far, the other Bush family candidate has no ethical problems using them.
deborah said...
I'll hold you to this, but it seems like a fairy tale.
Manafort is already working with Kasich to keep Cruz at bay and, if Rubio wanted to help Cruz or turn his delegates over to him, he'd have done it, so, given the fact Rubio went out of his way to make sure those delegates stayed under his control after der SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Polizei expressed a predatory interest, it seems reasonable to presume he's waiting for the right moment.
PS Meth, what happened in CO is also happening in SD and WY. This crowd gives slime a bad name.
FWIW Trump was finally certified the winner of the MO primary (12 delegates), held a month ago* which the One True Ted lost by 1700 votes.
The Cruzzers tried to play their usual hanky pank, but Gateway, Drudge, Last Refuge, and us, in our own small way, turned up the heat and shone a bright light on the Cruzist malefactors.
* Hillary beat Bernie by 1500 votes and was certified the next day.
It's to late for the GOPe. They fucked themselves with CO and hope they burn in hell and get the strung up by their scrawny necks and their carcasses pulverized swinging in the wind. They are scumbags and Preibus is the #1 scumbag for letting this get out of hand like this.
Meth, accd to NRO, the rules were published online last September:
http://cologop.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/CRC-Bylaws-9-26-15.pdf
"It's downright Althousian."
*cough*
Trump thinks these party rules are a negotiation (like a business deal). Ultimately they some of that, but it is way more like chess and Trump is playing this like checkers.
Low. Energy.
Best move Trump made was getting Lewandowski out of the mix and bringing on Manafort. But it may be too late for Trump.
And I agree, the GOPe might as be Game of Throne's Roose Bolton to Ted Cruz's Rob Stark. Red Wedding in Cleveland!
Sorry, this is as un-American and undemocratic a thing as can be imagined and all the excuses in the world won't change it.
I noticed your boy trying to weasel out of it last night saying 65,000 people voted. Wow! 65,000 people in the whole state of CO. The heat must really be something coming back at him. His apparatchiks in MO had to finally certify Trump was the winner.
Who the Hell do you think you're kidding?
deborah said...
Meth, accd to NRO, the rules were published online last September:
Question: Has anybody but the One true Ted tried to do anything with them.
Whatever happened to the will of the people? Seems like everybody was willing to abide by it, but Cruz - the One True Conservative, Defender of the Constitution, Protector of the Little Guy.
Hey, guys, did you know the One True Ted has had his records sealed just like Preisent Pissy?
s/b President, not Preisent
FWIW, a first term Senate ideologue who lies a lot and whose records are sealed.
Do we really want to go through this again?
Colorado: the state that gave us Meadehouse (which will of course have a Hillary yard sign out front this fall).
ed, what ever happened to Mick? He used to be all up on natural born citizenship stuff.
Ed, I honestly don't get the disconnect between your knowledge of campaign happenings and your puzzlement over DNC procedural rules. Those are the rules. That's how the system operates. Political beings show up and fight for their people. Drive-by voters excited by the latest thing are clueless about the way the political parties operate. If the rules are to be changed, more people need to get involved.
Althousianism: Supporting candidate B to stop candidate A for the purpose of electing candidate C.
That about right?
And yet she continues to fascinate some.
Mick hasn't been the same ever since Jerry married a guy with even more wrinkles than him.
Rush is now talking about the Democrat and Republican Parties being private organizations. Ergo who they make their standard bearers is independent of the public will as expressed in primaries. Those weren't his exact words but that's what I took away from his emphasis on "private organizations." I understand that both parties have private staff without whom they couldn't function. And that staff is payed out of party coffers. But the "business" of both parties is competing for office in the public sector, the government. Okay, I'm lost. How can they be private?
"But Trump fired his campaign’s organizer in the state just a week before the state GOP’s convention last Saturday, where the final 13 delegates were selected. (Cruz had already picked up an additional 21 Colorado delegates in a series of seven congressional-district conventions.) The replacement manager printed up a slate to guide Trump supporters, but it was, according to CNN, "riddled with errors," including incorrect delegate numbers and, in one case, the name of a Cruz delegate. At the last minute, Trump’s team reprinted the flier listing the Trump slate, but the second print also contained errors.
Cruz, meanwhile, posted his—accurate—delegate slate on a giant screen in the convention hall, and printed it out on a bright orange t-shirt that his supporters wore around the convention.
The point isn’t the particulars of the arcane rules themselves. And it’s not even the delegate "points" Cruz put on the board in Colorado. The point is that Trump desperately needs every delegate he can possible pick up in order to win, and yet he appears totally unprepared and unable to handle the organizational and managerial challenges of doing so.
Nor is Colorado the only state in which Trump’s incompetence has been on display: As a result of not engaging with the particulars of the process, he also lost delegates to Cruz in both South Carolina and Louisiana.
Trump is not simply disorganized. He appears to have been totally unaware of the requirements in some of these states. Trump was apparently told by senior officials with the Republican National Committee recently that his campaign needed to be prepared to fight for delegates in states like Colorado. Upon hearing this, according to The New York Times, "Trump turned to his aides and suggested that they had not been doing what they needed to do." Trump, in other words, paid little attention to the process himself, and left mission-critical campaign projects to unprepared staff."
~ reason.com
As I've tried to point out since early on with my own factual examples, the man just isn't any good at the very thing that is supposedly his core competency and main qualification.
The lies, false accusations and whining from Trump and Trumpers has managed to damage both him and Cruz against Hillary, but especially him, and this is before any of the Dems' arsenal of opposition research gets unleashed on Trump, and they are already bragging about how bad that stuff is. I believe them, because I have not averted my eyes from what's out there. Remember, I was excited about Trump too before I learned better.
63% of all Registered voters say they will not vote for Trump.
Trump VS Clinton
Cruz VS Clinton
deborah said...
Ed, I honestly don't get the disconnect between your knowledge of campaign happenings and your puzzlement over DNC procedural rules. Those are the rules. That's how the system operates. Political beings show up and fight for their people.
When the "rules" exist clearly to freeze out the rank and file of the party, it seems to me we're looking at a process where we've gone back to the smoke-filled room where the public, and the Party supporters expected to support the party's choice, aren't allowed or wanted.
The Cruz crowd, who are supposedly all doctrinaire Conservatives who believe in government of the people, by the people, and for the people and the sanctity of the Constitution as written, participate in a system to deny the people access to that process, it seems awfully hypocritical to me. I also find it hypocritical that a Trump supporter couldn't even get his entry on the ballot because a Cruz guy had been printed twice.
If those are the "rules", then the rules are crooked. If the people who participate in them try to call themselves good Conservatives and expect me to agree, I call them liars.
After what we've seen of the "rules" this year, in UT where they were passed down the line by the dozens, in not only CO, but ND and WY, where only the party machines get a vote, in WI where complaints of vote flipping are ignored because Teddy stuck to the "rules" and slipped his people in as heads of county election boards, the idea that "well, they're the rules" doesn't wash. That's what Tammany Hall was all about. Hell, it was the rules at one time you could hang a slave if he ran away. Just because they're the rules doesn't make them good. Or right.
And I go back to the point I keep making and never seem to get an answer. Why is it that only Cruz has tried to take advantage of this? Why not Rubio or Kasich or Jeb!?
Apparently the old idea that "The people have spoken" doesn't apply to Anointed Ones.
The Trump organization was lean so it could move quickly to change with new developments, but I don't think they, or anyone else, expected this kind of behind-the-back operation. The Cruzzers have to make the excuse "Well, it's the rules" because they know most people would be repelled by it as un-American and undemocratic. Yeah, it's what you expect from a sleazy ambulance chasing lawyer, but everybody else was playing by the real rules - let the people's will stand. Cruz goes with the Roberts Court's rules - the law is what we say it is for only the time we say it is. Cruz tried selling himself as the Only True Conservative, but he couldn't win, so he transformed himself into William Marcy Tweed and tries to win in the backroom.
Hell, this is what Hillary pulls on Bernie because she can't win half the important states.
PS I'll forgive your Freudian slip of DNC. I know you meant RNC, but, yeah, it's not what you would have expected even 5 years ago from the republicans.
bag, you do know TownHall is bought and paid for with Cruz PAC money, right?
And NBC demurs.
BTW if 63% of the American people won't vote for The Donald, about 72% must not be willing to vote for the One True Ted, right?
Five years there was no Trump. The point of these parties is to control the nomination. The point of a Republic is to hopefully avoid demagogues.
I said recently the Trump could be a breath of fresh air, who could make decisions on the fly. Without kow-towing to polling and interest groups. Cruz and Hillary are wrapped so tight, as presidents, they will be beholden to their interest groups.
But the RULES won't be changed in the future without participation other than the party insiders. And of course, party insiders are wrapped tight and love that kind of thing. Most people are not.
Rabel said...
Mick hasn't been the same ever since Jerry married a guy with even more wrinkles than him.
If you see him, tell him to stop by!
deborah said...
Five years there was no Trump. The point of these parties is to control the nomination. The point of a Republic is to hopefully avoid demagogues.
I said recently the Trump could be a breath of fresh air, who could make decisions on the fly. Without kow-towing to polling and interest groups. Cruz and Hillary are wrapped so tight, as presidents, they will be beholden to their interest groups.
But the RULES won't be changed in the future without participation other than the party insiders. And of course, party insiders are wrapped tight and love that kind of thing. Most people are not.
Don't know how into American history you might be, but this is the sort of thing we had in the Gilded Age. In fact, I've taken to calling the Obamanation Gilded Age II and this fits right in. Eventually, due to muckraking journalists like Thomas Nast, people found out what was going, got real fed up, and the "rules" were made to change.
The heat brought by Drudge and public outcry is the only way to get those rules changed.
PS Most of the "rules", as you noted, only came out last August.
BTW what do you think the Cruzzers will say when the McConnell crowd pulls a fast one on the third ballot and the "rules" suddenly freeze them out?
You know and I know any of us could be hauled into Federal court at any time and charged, tried, convicted, and imprisoned on a dozen charges we didn't even know existed. We all think that's unfair.
So is this.
"BTW what do you think the Cruzzers will say when the McConnell crowd pulls a fast one on the third ballot and the "rules" suddenly freeze them out?"
That's what Rush is saying in my post title.
So how do you suggest the rules be changed. The obvious answer is for We the People to take more interest.
If a group were to take this to court, what do you think the jury would decide? How would the judge rule?
deborah said...
Meth, accd to NRO, the rules were published online last September:
http://cologop.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/CRC-Bylaws-9-26-15.pdf
I'm going to say it again. Who in CO saw the rules published? Look, I get that it's a rules issue, but all this does is cement the idea that the GOPe subverted, through the rules, the ability for the people to vote on their guy, whoever that is. Only to hand it to another guy. This is the very example of disenfranchisement and subversion. I don't give a shit who changed the rules, but the fact that the rules were changed to advantage a specific person is even worse.
Meade said...
"It's downright Althousian."
*cough*
where you holding your empty nut-sack and turned your head to the left when you coughed? Were you wearing shorts with socks and sandals as punishment too?
Evidently some of the people in Colorado have decided that they have had enough of the party elites controlling the process, changing the rules and excluding their voices.
Expect more of this
Meth, if Trump had been on the ball he'd have had his people in place fighting for him. He was wagering on hitting 1237, it didn't pan out, and now he has to scramble.
deborah said...
BTW what do you think the Cruzzers will say when the McConnell crowd pulls a fast one on the third ballot and the "rules" suddenly freeze them out?
So how do you suggest the rules be changed. The obvious answer is for We the People to take more interest.
If a group were to take this to court, what do you think the jury would decide? How would the judge rule?
That's what Rush is saying in my post title.
Streamline them, make them subject to RNC and FEC approval*. If you read the WI rules for delegate apportionment, you'd have seen it was a system made to be abused
Make delegate selection a vote (I like closed primaries, myself). IIRC, it used to be delegates were bound to the candidate until the candidate released them. That's a good system, whey not keep it?
As for a jury, I think most people would react unfavorably to a closed, opaque system designed to keep as much power in the hands of a few party bosses (back to the Gilded Age). As for the judge, are there any honest ones?
Sounds like my 5th Grade history final.
Were you ever a teacher?
PS Meth has a point. Were the rules ever made public? Seems like they should have been.
* This assumes both are reasonably honest
Frankly, the veil has finally been lifted off the scam that the GOPe has been running for a long time now. I admit that I didn't think they would be culpable in the very thing they advocated against, which was voter fraud and disenfranchisement and now look what we have, the GOPe engaging in the very same ugly cheating via rules manipulations. Originally they set up the rules so that the delegates go to Jeb/Marco, but it turns out that the CO GOPe wanted them to go to Rubio instead:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/colorado-vote-fixed-for-rubio/
Then it belies the fact that people in Texas who voted for Trump saw their votes change for Rubio as well. Only to see the win go to Cruz. Interesting that huh. Now, we hear the refrain of well, the rules changed in August, but when you don't hear is that they were done to accomodate one candidate winning. Since both of those mallet heads aren't there anymore come CO caucus, Cruz walks in and gets the win, takes a victory lap for showing up.
Ed, rules changes can be made public, but who knew that they were. Was there notification of a new rules change? Who did that get disseminated too? Clearly a lot of people in CO didn't know about the rules changes and not a lot of people knew that there was even a discussion about them, only to show up and get turned away?
This is shit that the democrats do in the middle of the night on a weekend when no one is looking. That's how the ACA got passed. Why is the GOPe any different now? Glad I left the party 8 years ago.
Ed, I don't find your translation of my post title useful. I know what Rush meant by it.
If you consider that the public could access the RNC site any time, yes it was made public.
Meth:
"All they did was show that one man/one vote is a bullshit pipe dream. They put the nail in the coffin of the republic. Fucking assholes should die."
And now that people have found out about it, we shall see what fallout there will be. I'm not sure, but isn't there enough delegates left to swing the momentum to Trump based on rule-footsie?
Jeebus. I just listened to a few minutes of Cruz on the Hannity radio show. Now, I was a Cruz or Trump guy and switched over to a Trump or Cruz guy and will vote for Cruz in the general if he gets that far, but Sweet Mother of Pearl, whoever invented the phrase "sanctimonious prick" must have been listening to Ted Cruz talk when they had their revelation. And that's with Hannity (who is a sanctimonious prick himself on a lesser scale) there to blunt the impression.
He always sounds like a complete bull-shitter.
A preeminent pundit once said it best
Bagoh - it's useless. Trump and his supporters take zero responsibility when Trump f*cks up. It's all The dastardly horrid GOPe of CO, its volunteers, the rules change back in August involving the non-binding straw-poll, and Cruz's Gestapo Nazi tactics.
Cruz is a Nazi, donchaknow.
Trump - he's a Pyramid Scheme. Long live the Pyramid Scheme.
At least Cruz can complete his sentences.
Methadras said...
Ed, rules changes can be made public, but who knew that they were. Was there notification of a new rules change? Who did that get disseminated too? Clearly a lot of people in CO didn't know about the rules changes and not a lot of people knew that there was even a discussion about them, only to show up and get turned away?
That's the point. Where were they and were they easily accessed?
This is how stuff gets slipped by people all the time.
deborah said...
Ed, I don't find your translation of my post title useful. I know what Rush meant by it.
If you consider that the public could access the RNC site any time, yes it was made public.
Translation?
I make no pretense to be a lawyer. You asked the questions and I answered them. Granted, I'm a very straight-ahead guy and I try not to mince words. But consider how MO did it - the winner of each Congressional district got 5 delegates; the state winner got 12 more; end of story.
You can say what you will, but, if I vote for a Trump slate in my county, I should be able to get a Trump slate, a Cruz slate would strike me as vote theft.
And now that people have found out about it, we shall see what fallout there will be. I'm not sure, but isn't there enough delegates left to swing the momentum to Trump based on rule-footsie?
Back when Breitbart wasn't owned by a Cruzzer, Stone told them there were plans in the works to challenge all these funky delegates. With Manafort on board, you can bet on it.
Rabel said...
Now, I was a Cruz or Trump guy and switched over to a Trump or Cruz guy and will vote for Cruz in the general if he gets that far, but Sweet Mother of Pearl, whoever invented the phrase "sanctimonious prick" must have been listening to Ted Cruz talk when they had their revelation
First, I'm assuming there was an "if" intended after "Now,".
Second, you bring up why Cruz would be a worse candidate than Jeb! and why a lot of people are repelled by him (emphasis mine) even though you'd think it would be the marriage of the century - and I'm thinking Meth, DBQ, or Sixty (Troop and I are, of course, hopeless). The more you see of him (just like Hillary), the more you are turned off.
This guy is floating on the biggest ego trip in history (there a lot of articles on the Left-hand side of cyberspace that attest that Cruz is a far bigger narcissist than The Donald ever was) or he really buys what his father says, And God has given you an anointing to go to the battlefield. And what's the battlefield ? The battlefield is the marketplace. To go to the marketplace and occupy the land. To go to the marketplace and take dominion.
If that doesn't scare the Hell out of you, nothing will.
And we thought it was weird when the guy from San Fiasco called Pissy a Lightworker.
AprilApple said...
Cruz is a Nazi, donchaknow.
Hey, just because I called him the Reinhard Heydrich of American politics doesn't mean I think he's a Nazi.
I called him that because nobody, of all the people with whom he's allied himself in the last 4 months, thinks they can trust him and wonder who he's going to doublecross next.
When Kubis and Gabecik did in the Hangman of Europe, the entire Nazi elite breathed a sigh of relief. Clearly, McConnell and his people feel the same way.
PS I notice when the One True Ted put out his CYA talking points last night, you were over here in a flash.
"bag, you do know TownHall is bought and paid for with Cruz PAC money, right?"
And posting of Breitbart and Drudge almost exclusively as some kind of fair-minded sources is fine? Regardless, it wasn't Townhall who said it, but rather Registered voters in a poll.
You link NBC as some kind of counter as if they aren't salivating at the prospect of a Trump nomination. Notice how the Dems and their media are pretty much leaving Trump's record just lying there undisturbed. Trump loyalists imagine that Trump is being attacked relentlessly, but you have no idea what's in store if he's the nominee, and he won;t handle it well, especially in the eyes of those not already enthralled. He's being handled with kit gloves so far, because they want him to be the face of the Republicans party, and most Republicans do not for the same reasons, which is why it's Republicans giving him the most shit.
Another fever swamp conspiracy goes up in smoke:
"Paul Ryan speaks: We need a rule at the convention barring anyone who hasn’t run from winning the nomination."
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/12/paul-ryan-speaks-we-need-a-rule-at-the-convention-barring-anyone-who-hasnt-run-from-winning-the-nomination/
Bags - you do know that all anti-Trump anything is now considered propaganda, right?
(btw - did you get your Cruz check in the mail like I did? I told Cruz he better pay up if he thinks I'm going to continue to pony the line for him.)
All the intellectuals on the right who cannot stand the fraud Trump, are the real frauds! All who are left Breitbart, Jim Hoft, and Drudge. Sad and lonely hucksters igniting the angry white guy party.
bagoh20 said...
bag, you do know TownHall is bought and paid for with Cruz PAC money, right?
And posting of Breitbart and Drudge almost exclusively as some kind of fair-minded sources is fine? Regardless, it wasn't Townhall who said it, but rather Registered voters in a poll.
Cruz and McConnell have bought off half the blogosphere, so the truth is tough to find. As for polls, Here's one that knocks yours into a cocked hat - Hillary leads Trump by only 2. and it's not 2 months old.
AprilApple said...
All who are left Breitbart, Jim Hoft, and Drudge. Sad and lonely hucksters igniting the angry white guy party.
You didn't get the memo. Breitbart is now owned by a Cruzzer. Quick! Go over and bask in its light! But, yeah, the Cruz-McConnell alliance has bought and paid for lots of people. You missed it during one of the times you were stamping your foot, singing, "La La La La La I can't hear you".
Damn, the heat must have really been cranked up on the DC Adulterer for all this misdirection.
angry white guy party
You're even sounding like a Lefty.
NBC and the rest of the pro-Trump media is totally fair-minded. Always liked them. SNL is totally funny. Yeah.
April, I get my check weekly. I always send it along to the Establishment, where I was told it will be used to pay off my Trump University bill. They had really good donuts there, just amazing donuts, absolutely incredible donuts. There were never any left when I got there, but I was told about them.
Just got my talking points.
Trump University really opened doors. oh - those donuts, you have no idea. They were fantastic, really great, amazing, really really great and amazing.
Every comment lawnboy makes is further proof he is a fucking liar.
"AprilApple said:
Bagoh - it's useless. Trump and his supporters take zero responsibility when Trump f*cks up."
That's simply not true. I have listed many times when I thought that Trump fucked up.
He should have had delegate counters in Colorado. You can't assume that the establishment would fight fair.
He should have lawyers in every state poised to prevent Cruz from subverting the election results. He should now know what kind of guy Cruz is and act accordingly.
He should not have backed down from that event in Chicago. He should have went ahead and demanded that the police arrest the protestors who were blocking his fans. The cops claimed it wasn't a problem. He should have taken him at their word.
He should have refused to debate if Megyn Kelly was a moderator. He should have singled her as an example of a partisan. Megyn Kelly has Heidi Cruz on her show tonight. He needed to isolate her and make an example of her. Even more so than he did. He could go on Greta and Bill O'Reilly and Hannity and isolate her and her show as the sham that it is.
Trump should point out how Ted Cruz supports the endless wars in the Middle East that are destroying our military and our standing in the world.
Trump should point out that Ted Cruz is at the beck and call of the oil industry and carries water for the House of Saud.
Trump should point out every day how Ted Cruz couldn't organize a gang bang in a whorehouse and he should be able to since he has enough experience in one to know what to do.
There are many things I think Trump fucks up. He is far from perfect. He is not what you think Ted Cruz is. The next time I see youse guys criticize Cruz will be the first time. You know using concrete examples such as his inability to pass legislation or to get the Republican party behind his initiatives. I know he is the most conservative man in the world. You must know he is a tool. In every sense of the word.
I talk about the oil companies at the risk of being accused of spouting left wing cant. I come at it from a different perspective. I would free the oil companies to give us cheap energy. I would allow much more off shore drilling. I would unlease domestic consumption. I would unshackle the fracking industry. I want 50 cents a gallon gasoline.
I would however hammer the House of Saud and the Iranians and all the Muslim countries that finance terror with petrodollars. I would force them out of the US market and bankrupt them.
And if there one thing Donald Trump knows it is how to drive someone into bankruptcy.
I come the oil companies not as a liberal blame monger but as a proud Islamophobe.
Amartel said...
NBC and the rest of the pro-Trump media
Tell me, dear, when did the Peacock go from anything but hard Left?
I understand how embarrassed you guys are by the weekend's revelations.
Your Anointed One (with the connivance of a McConnell super-PAC, no less) has to pay people huge bucks to lie for him.
Drudge tells the world how he really feels about the Constitution and fair play and the right to vote and boring stuff like that.
And then the blowback must have been so fearsome that even the One True Ted had to send out a tweet telling us how a whole 65,000 people out of all the millions of Republicans in CO voted for him and him alone.
Now the word is any site that doesn't spout Cruzist propaganda lies. Don't think it's gonna work.
Oh, and, April, just because Paul Manafort said Daddy Cruz used Gestapo tactics didn't mean he was making an accusation.
Just a highly invidious comparison.
BTW, I hear the going rate for Cruz trolls is $9.50/hr. You guys are getting screwed.
Is that all you're getting?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
"Every comment lawnboy makes is further proof he is a fucking liar. "
You should email Lem. Tell him it hurts your feelings whenever lawnboy lies/comments. Be a man, Milton. Make it Lem's problem.
That didn't take long.
I would hope that we could honor the agreement on both sides.
Please.
Thank you.
To show your understand of the agreement, why don't you restate it. So we're all clear.
Troop, Megyn Kelly is the only host on Fox who is not kissing up to Trump. That should be respected not attacked. She is the only one who ever asked him a tough question. If he's the guy you think he is, that would be no problem for him, but he's not. He ran away from her, and he ran away from Cruz, and he did it so you wouldn't see him exposed. You should ask yourself why you think that's a good thing. Do you thinks it's good that voters don't know about the candidates, because the Democrats are gonna make sure they do, and at the worst possible time.
If Trump debated Cruz and got exposed as a know-nothing completely unprepared for the job and it was so bad that he lost the nomination overnight, would that be good or bad? As someone who supports Cruz, I'd be elated if it happened the other way around and I'd become a Trumper that night. I don't care which guy gets it, but that we pick him smartly and openly, and that he proves he can stand up to the fight, not just fling crap and runaway. Trump has been running from the fight - the real head to head fight, but it's coming anyway, and he looks clearly unprepared for it.
Who is this Trooper York fellow? Does he run this blog? I thought this blog was Lem's.
As I understand it as long as you are not mentioned you would not post here. I would not for instance post at your wifes blog in response. You have been a gentleman and have not posted until you were mentioned. As far as I have seen. I would hope we could keep that up. I will delete any mention of you in my posts and I would hope other contributors would do the same. Of course as you well know you can not control what someone will post. Especially obvious sock puppets. But I agree with you that it should be deleted since it is unfair to attack you and you not be able to respond.
Fair enough?
Why does Milton Zenobia feel so threatened by Ann Althouse's husband? I detect much envy. Were some of you felling jilted when she chose Larry over you fellows. This means you Sixty Grits. I think Lem should not comment over at Althouse's blog if he doesn't welcome Larry's comments here.
You miss my point bags. Trump is not afraid of Megyn Kelly. She is a media whore and opportunist of the first water. She pretends that she can ask tough questions and then demands that Bill O'Reilly defend her. It is like a reporter demanding to be part of the physical nasty press scrum and then crying when they get knocked down. Megyn Kelly is the enemy. The press is the enemy. Trump is the best at coopting their agenda and turning it back on them. I admit he got fooled by Megyn's pretty face. He didn't go after her the way he went after Rosie O'Donnell because she is cute. She uses that. There is a reason why Helen Thomas doesn't have a prime time show. (Besides the fact that she is dead)
He doesn't need her. She is trying to build her career on attacking him. She can't cry if she gets a few shots back. No I take that back. She will cry and piss and moan. Because she is a hack and a poseur and needs to be exposed.Trump is exposing the Conservative Media. He did it to someone I used to respect in Mark Levin. I didn't know about that crooked book deal. Trump is turning over a lot of rocks. And I know a cockroach when I see one. Even if she is a cute blond.
Trooper York, have you usurped Lem's authority?
Mentioned or alluded to. For example: "evil blogger lady" "lawnboy" "TOP" "cunt" etc. You know — any of your cute little nicknames for either of us.
Trooper York, would it be fair if I were to refer to you as Blooper Pork? Lem, how about you take back your blog from Blooper Pork?
I would like to clear one thing up. I did not email Lem to ask him to tell you not to post here. I did delete you in all of my posts. As I will continue to do. I did go over to TOP and ask why you had to troll here. But I thought that it should be each individual contributors choice in the matter as to whether or not they wanted your contributions to their posts.
As I understand it Lem asked you to desist and you agreed. I thank you for that. It was the gentlemanly thing to do.
I hope we can all keep to it.
Ok now you are getting ridiculous. Not every mention of cunt refers to you. I could see where you might think so because it fits but really you have to get over yourself. Seriously.
Lem, why did you ask Larry to stop commenting here when you still comment at his wife's blog? Do you think that is righteous?
Lem, why did you give in to pressure from the blog bullies? I thought you were Larry's friend.
I think Lem understands what is going on here very clearly and doesn't need advice from anyone. He is a great leader of this blog and has done an excellent job.
@ Trooper
"He should have lawyers in every state poised to prevent Cruz...from convincing delegates to vote for him. "
fify.
On the contrary, Blooper Pork, I think Lem needs some shoring up. He's a good soul and obviously has given in to your demands to banish Larry. Why are you so jealous of Althouse's blogging success? You seem so bitter. That can't be healthy.
Troop, just like the Cruz affairs, the Cruz cheating, the 9/11 celebration on the roof, the reporter that was never touched, the reporter with the mysterious pen, the Megyn Kelly agenda, the Levin Book deal was a lie. You guys spew this stuff and seem to just ignore or refuse to learn that it all turned out false. You simply don't want to know the truth about Trump, because it's very inconvenient.
Again, would you drop Trump if in a debate he turned to be a completely uninformed and foolish on the issues? Because that's the choice I think the American voters will be presented sooner or later. It's what happened to Carson early on when I had hopes for him. I'm glad I found out then and not in October.
AprilApple said...
He should have lawyers in every state poised to prevent Cruz...from convincing delegates to vote for him.
Wrong. He should have expected him to act like a backstabbing ward-heeler, rather than like a Christian who could be expected to play fair.
FIFY
Blooper, you think you can manipulate everyone into believing you haven't been trying to take over this blog, since yours flopped. You're wrong, we all know what you've tried to do here at Lem's.
We're happy to have Lem's comments at Althouse. His comments are often smart, concise, and humorous. For example, today.
Lem's still alive?
Ms. AprilApple,
So sorry to see your friends here at Lem's have treated you like a step child. Seems like most Blooper and Mr.Ed don't tolerate anyone not on the Trump team.
Drudge's "Burn-it" dude - turns out he missed the meeting.
oh well - gotta invest in that big lie!
Larry,
That's good to hear, so then Lem should reciprocate and treat your comments here with respect, treat your wife with respect and tell the blog bullies here to behave themselves.
Oh yea, the burn-it dude. That's another one. Down the memory hole. It's done it's job now.
bagph20,
Keep on truckin', you and AprilApple have been like the voices in the wilderness. Keep sticking to your principles.
It also looks like Drudge's "Burn-it" dude is a liar or a conspiracy theorist who makes sh*t up for maximum flame... (if you rtwt) Not that Trump supporters are liars or conspiracy weirdos or anything. /// nah.
(except you Troop)
Trooper is fine, Milly. ed has a personality disorder.
Blooper is the sterotypical Trumpkin. It's no surprise he supports Trump, no surprise at all.
AprilApple, Trooper isn't fine. He is a master manipulator. Mr. Ed is simply more transparent in his Trump dementia. Don't be taken in by Trooper, he isn't your buddy and will gladly stab you in the back over any number of things.
bagoh20 said...
Troop, just like the Cruz affairs, the Cruz cheating, the 9/11 celebration on the roof, the reporter that was never touched, the reporter with the mysterious pen, the Megyn Kelly agenda, the Levin Book deal was a lie
It was?
We have the original.
There's also a conflict of interest.
There's also tons more on what is owned by the Anointed One, how they are being coached by the McConnell crowd in violating campaign finance laws and ever so much more.
Oh, and that adultery? You still haven't explained the Ashley Madison account, the half mil check to the Fiorina campaign, or Amanda Carpenter's Twitter stream.
Remember, it took a while to nail Gary Hart and John Edwards, but it happened.
Trooper and Mr.Ed will go along with political dirty tricks Trump plays on any one his opponents because that is how they roll. Birds of a feather. What type of person would identify with Trump, ask yourselves that?
Shorter ed: Walker will be indicted any minute now.... because the national enquirer/John Edwards and stuff... Please ignore the fact that Pecker gave Trump his endorsement.
shorter shorter ed: The tree house hath spoken! Insists it toss another heretic on the fire. Mark Levin - you are dead to ye of the tree.
Ed, it's all crap, but you don't care. You accept the lies no matter how ridiculous, and ignore the alternative explanations no matter how obvious because you need these lies to justify your support, and you don't need proof to pass them along. You accuse Cruz, and numerous other innocent people of terrible things with no proof whatsoever, just accusations. The exculpatory evidence and alternative explanations never passes your lips, never changes your mind, and it never will. Have you taken back any of the numerous attacks you have passed on in support of Trump. Were they all true? Do you even care?
The fix was in at the precinct level.
Precinct meetings elected delegates to the county meetings.
County delegates elected delegates to the congressional district meetings.
Congressional district delegates elected delegates to the state convention.
Colorado has 2,995 precincts.
Was Trump organized in 2,995 precincts? No.
Was Cruz? Unlikely.
Was the Republican party? Yep.
The party orchestrated the Colorado result, not Cruz.
But Cruz stole it!!!!!!!! I was told so by Drudge, and that new guy who works for Trump who replaced the old guy who knew nothing about how to win delegates in CO.
Cruz is just a tool. The establishment is using him to destroy Trump. They are not planning to accept him as the nominee. Do you really think that the likes of Lindsey Graham and John McCain and Mitt Romney are going to get behind Ted Cruz?
Let me ask you something. Is there anything that Cruz has done that gives you pause? Or are you doing the exact thing you accuse ed of? Taking claims and rumors and lies at face value when they are about Trump and ignoring them when they are about Cruz?
The party stole it and gave it to Cruz.
bagoh20 said...
Ed, it's all crap, but you don't care. You accept the lies no matter how ridiculous, and ignore the alternative explanations no matter how obvious because you need these lies to justify your support, and you don't need proof to pass them along. You accuse Cruz, and numerous other innocent people of terrible things with no proof whatsoever, just accusations
Sure, they have the checks, the documents, people on tape, anything you want, but it's all irrelevant because you need to hate somebody.
Have you taken back any of the numerous attacks you have passed on in support of Trump. Were they all true?
Why should I? I documented damned near all of them. The source and the text. But truth doesn't matter, does it?
You have to worship a phony Conservative. His voting record has all kinds of holes in it, but that doesn't matter. He's the only anti-Trump left, so you love him.
Oy.
Rabel said...
The fix was in at the precinct level.
Sure. The issue is nobody else wanted to do it, but Cruz. And you do realize this took some time for his people to organize, but you don't see Rubio or Kasich trying to poach a few.
I had a lot of respect for Mark Levin. But something about this whole thing with the books rings false. If it is as he says not a big deal then he should just shrug it off. Why did he go nuclear? He was just as thin skinned about that as Trump was about the sexy Melania photo.
They are both wrong. Big time.
I know there is a lot of chicanery in book sales and best seller list numbers. It is a well known fact. I didn't know that Levin's fiance's kid works for Cruz. That is a conflict of interest that he might have been wise to expose. I don't think it would effect his commentary but he yells when the mainstream media does stuff like that so he should know that he shouldn't do it either.
Cruz understood the rules going in and he participated. Cruz had a well organized ground game. Both Cruz and Bernie are more popular in CO. Trump and Hillary - most Coloradoan detest them. Trump didn't even come here for one single speech. Trump canceled his appearance here at the convention.
The second someone falls off the Trump train - it's a conspiracy.
Rabel said...
The party stole it and gave it to Cruz.
He didn't have to take it. If he's the moral, fair play guy he claims to be, he could have said, "No thanks, I win fair or I don't play"*.
Of course, he tossed that idea the night of the IA caucus.
* Consider Robert E Lee when Jeff Davis wanted him to wage a guerilla campaign in the Blue ridge mountains for 20 years.
"He didn't have to take it. If he's the moral, fair play guy he claims to be, he could have said, "No thanks, I win fair or I don't play""
Bullshit. That's not how it works.
When it comes from the top, it's a plan, not a conspiracy. It would be a conspiracy if Cruz made any private promises to the party leadership for their support. He may have, but he didn't need too. The plan is to stop Trump. Ted's just a tool, a sanitary pad they're using to control the bleeding.
Rabel said...
It would be a conspiracy if Cruz made any private promises to the party leadership for their support. He may have, but he didn't need too
He's colluding with the man he called a liar, Mitch McConnell. There are checks to prove it. Reasonable to expect a quid pro quo.
BTW, if Cruz is so anti-Establishment, you'd think he'd work with Trump against McConnell.
Or am I just being logical?
They'll replace him with a store brand tampon if they get the opportunity. Maxiflo.
deborah said...
He didn't have to take it. If he's the moral, fair play guy he claims to be, he could have said, "No thanks, I win fair or I don't play
Bullshit. That's not how it works.
It's not?
He's supposed to be a moral and honorable man. If not, he's the kind of guy he says we need less of in public life.
Hate to tell you, kid, but you just cut your own throat.
Oh, ED. I guess I'll just have to wait for a new development. I think we're all in a rut.
Ted's just a tool,
A sanitary pad they're using
To control the bleeding.
fify
If he falls in fully with Mitch and Reince and the boys, he's dead to me. We'll see.
Rabel said...
They'll replace him with a store brand tampon if they get the opportunity. Maxiflo.
Precisely. That's why all the talk of Ryan. They're going to do it, it's the timing that's tricky.
I think his poached delegates are a bargaining chip when the deals are cut.
Trump, having cut a deal with Kasich, Rubio, and maybe Walker for their delegates, will then approach the Whigs with an offer they can't refuse - I campaign for your guys if you lay off me. You keep control of Congress, I get the White House and not a lot of static for the next 4 years.
Cruz, in danger of being shut out, may well approach Trump with some kind of offer to give up his claims in exchange for, say, AG or a promise to back him for Governor of TX.
He is going to be in the cab saying he coulda been a contender but they gave him a one way ticket to Palookaville.
Rabel said...
If he falls in fully with Mitch and Reince and the boys, he's dead to me. We'll see.
He's already there, kid.
Trooper York said...
He is going to be in the cab saying he coulda been a contender but they gave him a one way ticket to Palookaville
He's got a puss like Brando, but that's it.
And now we know the meaning of the omen in the yard.
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