Kasich then touted his poll numbers in head-to-head match-ups against Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying he beats Clinton in "virtually every poll."
"I'm the only one that does it on the Republican side," he said.
He also talked about his record on job growth, adding he has international foreign policy knowledge and the experience to be a competitive candidate."
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What if he's right, and he's the only one who can beat her? If you knew that for certain would you support him? He's not what I'm looking for, but yes I would.
He defines fun differently than I do, but we know Massa Bags would vote for him if only to avoid having to pay coyotes to bring him employees.
If he takes the nomination without the support of the voters, then no.
My question was simple: Him or Hillary?
Nice, bags, great comeback, awesome grammar, and language that befits your status as a benefactor to your people, none of whom happen to be Americans.
With a brain that powerful there is no doubt that you will be able to convince your peons to work even harder so you can afford a sparkly new hang glider. It will be fabulous!
It's actually a spelling error, so also nice comeback-comeback, dipshit.
And besides, "I have a very good brain."
I might reluctantly support Kasich since he honestly ran and stayed in throughout the process.
I could vote for him or the One True Ted since they stuck to it and fought for it. The only outsider I would vote for would be Jeff Sessions. But if they pick Ryan or Romney or Jeb or Lindsey Graham or any other establishment drone I am out.
I lived through Eight years of Obama. I can last a year or two with Hillary until she is impeached.
How much FUN!
Con the voters into thinking that their votes count. Endless months of campaigning knowing that it all means absolutely nothing. Fooling people into feeling that they have some sort of actual voice or choices when all the time Kasich and the rest of the GOPe have chosen for us.
Kabuki elections. Fraud. And they are laughing at us, the voters, the whole time. Ha ha ha ha...what fun!!! What rubes. LOL!!!!
There will be hell to pay if this happens. Literally.
Did your mommy tell you that, baggy?
As for your treatment of illegals, even Junipero Serra was heard to utter "Dejar de tratar a los indios tan mal."
And even with a brain the size of a planet you still have the morals of a traitor.
I mean I can never vote for my preferred candidate.
Jake Featherston is a fictional character.
Hating on Trump, as so many establishment types, RINOs, etc., are wont to do, ends up leaving us with excrement-on-a-cracker types such as the Rube, Kasich, and the Jebster. Thanks so much.
I'd vote for Trump over Hillary, and that's a really painful option for me, but he's the only one who will almost certainly lose to her. I don't think Cruz would have an easy road either, but at least not impossible. He works it, he's smart, he has a good organization, and he can convince people who don't naturally like him - I'm one of them. Kasich would win easily, with or without the indictment, but he would not shrink government (my biggest issue). I go with the most conservative Republican who can win, and that's Cruz, but I'd still be happy if Kasich won it fairly, which means according to the rules in place when it started - no rules changes now.
So you support an open borders guy - what a surprise. What will you tell us next, that you really love this country but can't wait to get rid of native English speakers who want to be paid in something other than pesos?
Kasich doesn't deserve to be on the ballot. He has 150 delegates! He's won exactly - one -state. His own. In at least 15 states he's got less than 5 percent of the vote.
Kasich may be running, but he's not wanted by the vast majority of Republicans. If he's nominated, I'm outta here.
As for his doing well against Hillary, that's only because no one has been attacking him. At this point, he's basically "generic Republican" - once he's nominated the Democrats will do the same number on him they did on Romney and McCain.
And since, like Romney and McCain, Kasich only feels comfortable attacking other Republicans, he'll get slaughtered.
2/3 of the Republican primary voters want an insurgent Candidate. They want someone who opposes Open borders and "getting along with the Democrats".
So the GOPe's plan is to void the will of the people and give us a candidate who's for open borders and "getting along with the Democrats".
Brilliant.
I kind of agree with you rc but Kasich at least stayed in the race and fought it out. That shows me something. I wouldn't want a loser like Walker to get the nod. He was raped by his consultants and quit at the first chance he got.
I would pick Kasich over Hillary barely on the merits. But if Paul Ryan gets the nod then you might as well have Hillary. They both have the same paymasters. So then it don't matter.
If he's nominated, I'm outta here
Ditto. What is the freaking point of all this? The voters going to the polls to vote if it all means doo squat in the end because the party insiders are going to cram their choice down our throats anyway.
What is the point of electing delegates to send to the convention to vote the will of the people if the delegates are just going to do WTF they want anyway?
Is there ANY point in all of this? Any? Other than to totally piss off the people who voted for their candidates and then see the corruption, duplicity and absolute disregard for what the voters have decided.
If there is NO point in voting, in being a good citizen, participating in what we have been led to believe is a fair, open and honest election process..ha ha ha ha...then there is NO point in participating at all. No point in obeying any laws from people who have been foisted on us by the overweening elitists. None at all.
We are just one step away from the Politbureau and the Propaganda Bureau combining and completing the process of becoming just subservient cogs under the thumb of the Central Government.
You say you want a revolution....well, you know............
oopsy daisy = Dust Bunny Queen.
Too lazy to delete and repost. So there.
Sorry Pal, we saw this movie a couple times before. The base indicates their clear choice and the power brokers switcheroo Milquetoast.
They even bring back the original Milquetoast to wage battle against their own team.
This is why I despise teams and avoid them wherever possible.
No. In my world GOPe must be slain. I'll rip up my ballot in disgust, on a good day, and on a bad day I'll vote Sanders.
It's going to be Trump or Cruz or it's going to be nobody. This is the end for the GOPe one way or another. Go quietly into the sunset, or go down hard. Their brand is already destroyed. Each new hair that they grow is immediately singed. Like Ryan. He's already a singed GOPE hair. Already being primaried. and that's not the begging either, that's the end of their run. Their last bridge between tea party types, who are the grassroot conservatives and burgeoning still, and the uprooted GOPe. Singed upon entry.
What an incredible thing to behold when you think about it. This is genuine history book material. We're witnessing the death of a useless Party and at this point antagonizing and duplicitous. Dems are worse. A complete realignment. The paradigm shift is tectonic. And when they appear on television don't the party standard bearers all come off so goddamn boring!
No. we, I, will not back GOPe candidate. Simple as that. Would you vote for a zombie? Hell to the fuck no. GOPe ballot is junk mail, straight to the trash.
This method, so useful to them in the past, will not work to save them this time. This stunt of their nervous nattering is hastening their doom not delaying it.
Kasich is dreaming if he thinks he gets the nod on a second ballot - which I don't think will happen.
Black Rock is now saying Daddy Cruz is now 6, not 10, up in WI. Translation: he 's slipping and they want to lower expectations.
FWIW I was in the store this morning and the National Enquirer had on the front page "Wife Confronts Cheating Cruz". Haz may have the best case scenario.
And from our Follow the Money file - McConnell PAC sends money to Cruz PAC as of 2/19. Tell me again how he's an outsider and the One True Conservative Shining On A Hill.
PS For those interested, Reagan's poll numbers at this point in '80.
"It's going to be fun."
Well of course it would be fun to gain the nomination when you only won one state. One of Ayn Rand's moochers.
Bad day at Black Rock.
No, Black Day At Bad Rock - the A-Team version was one of their best.
Chip Ahoy said...
No. we, I, will not back GOPe candidate. Simple as that. Would you vote for a zombie? Hell to the fuck no. GOPe ballot is junk mail, straight to the trash.
I think that's what The Donald was in DC to do. Remind Rinse Ryan and the McConnell Mob if they try to pull something cute, he walks and his supporters go with him. That means we go back to '09 in terms of Congressional seats and it may well stay that way for a generation.
Nobody would trust the Whigs after that.
If this goes sideways and the two guys who worked really hard to get there aren't selected as the nominee then I hope that Preibus has a good security detail and that the rest of the GOP have an exit plan because the beginning of the scorched earth process from the GOP electorate will begin.
Anyone want to play crystal ball? My prediction: The R convention is chaos, challenges and points of order, and lots of people yelling, good TV, if you like that stuff and eventually Cruz gets the nomination. Trump walks out and starts his own “Peoples Party” which holds its convention in a casino in Atlantic City.
A couple of other things:
Does Cruz pulling stuff like this make him look like the kind of sleazy lawyer everybody loves to hate?
Also, Emerson says Daddy "expands" lead to 5.
Now it's 5? I thought he was up by 10 when he zipped off to the Left Coast to joke with Fallon about running over Trump.
Slippage appears imminent. Now we know why Trump's doing 3 rallies a day.
Things would become very interesting if Trump AND Sanders cried foul and went independent. I'd pay to see that.
Bernie says he's going to make a play for the superdelegates if he wins NY - and he may well.
If so, we'll have 2 outsiders looking to grab the nominations of the 2 parties.
Fusion ticket?
That would be fun.
PS Roger Stone, who was Trump's corporate commo director until they had a falling out*, but who is now his delegate guy, had an interview with Breitbart says they intend to get a lot of Cruz delegates disqualified at the convention.
* Interesting Trump can cool off and make up with people. Ivana is another example.
Fil vol, that means thread jack in some fer'ner language.
I was thinking, "if that pop-up book might have been a bit too scary for wee ones or, oddly, not enough words to be actually read as nighttime story as a proper books with words, then which book would be good for that? One with a story that children can appreciate, with words, and pop-ups that aren't too exciting? And I thought of A Piece of Cake, a Delectable Pop-Up Book, but those things are out of print and now become something akin to collector's items and only available used and expensive as f. So I looked. Abebooks had one for for 7.50 plus shipping so I snatched it up without thinking further.
Like fishing. Feel a little tug and yank to set that sucker in the mouth and reel it in. Except not to here, to elsewhere.
Now, see that was fun. Because I can picture it. He's reading them this book and half way they realize where it is going. I'm going to ask James to tell me when the kids realize what's happening to the cake. It's brilliant. All the scary things that happen turn out to be helpful when faced but each helper takes their portion of the cake slice they're carrying as payment. It's only fair. By the time the mice reach their destination there's nothing left of the cake.
But once there at the celebration they're introduced to a world of celebrants with resources beyond their imagining. A clever old grandmother mouse made her own cake. Made out of CHEESE! A cheesecake.
It's MIND BLOWING! A cake MADE OUT OF CHEESE!
You thought you knew where this was going -- nothing left of the slice of regular cake, but you never saw that coming -- cheesecake!
There's a lifetime of joy right there. The little mice are adorable. They put on their best party clothes. That turns out to be costumes. They maintain their characters from beginning to end, it's not just a bunch of mice. This tiny book is quite different from regular pop-up books by its thoughtful story told in rhyme, it's diminutive size, it's odd cake slice shape, it able and deft pop-ups that are not overly complicated but not overly simplified either. It's art is wonderful. It's all around excellent book. In my opinion. At that price I couldn't resist.
This gives hope. It's like original chia pets rams. You have to keep checking. Some bookstore will offer it without knowing their treasure and treat it as any other. Condition is a consideration. Not for me usually I can repair them but not when they're sent off somewhere else. I'm not worried about that.
I like Chip's thread jacks. I'll have to look up the book- sounds cool.
Hillary is considering Al Franken as VP. The Egomaniac should pick an SNL alumnus that was actually funny, like Adam Sandler. I read Sandler is a Republican, and certainly more conservative than The Ego. Certainly more bright.
If this goes sideways and the two guys who worked really hard to get there aren't selected as the nominee then I hope that Preibus has a good security detail
Not only that....I would want to find those delegates who decided that THEIR wishes are worth more than the thousands and hundreds of thousands of voters who chose their candidates. Find them and then beat the living crap out of 'em.
How arrogant. They were selected to vote as the people voted, not vote as they wish or as they are bribed to vote.
Yup. They better hope that their names and addresses don't get revealed if they decide to play games with the voters. I hope they do get revealed. Elections have consequences. We've been told that....right? This could be one of the consequences :-D
DBQ- all respect to Tweety and all, but you are not talking about ‘the people’. This is just a political party that is fighting within itself. The majority of voters don’t vote. And the majority of ‘the people’ don’t care. and the majority of americans would just like the whole thing to be over.
DBQ- all respect to Tweety and all, but you are not talking about ‘the people’.
Gee Jim. I do understand that this is the primary voting process where, usually, Republicans vote for who they want for their candidate and the Democrats do likewise. These are the "people" who I am talking about. The caucus process is another thing. Weird and archaic, in my opinion, and should be abandoned.
However, if the people who take the time to go to the speeches, go to cast votes for their chosen candidates are overruled by a few top dogs in the political party or stabbed in the back by the delegates who decide to ignore the will of the voters who they (the delegates) are supposed to be representing.....what is the point of this entire process? Why bother to vote in the primary? Why vote at all for anything anytime anywhere, when your vote is discarded like used kleenex.
If the "party" doesn't need the voters and plans to decide who gets the nomination despite who the voters have chosen....why do WE need the political parties. The elitist who "think" they are in control and "think" they know what is best for those deluded ignorant knuckle dragging voters....better "think" again.
This goes not just for the Republican Party but also for the Democrats who are facing basically the same dynamic. The people in control, don't give a flying eff about what the voters want. They are going to jury rig, cheat and force their candidates on the people. Eat this crap sandwich or else. Their thinking is....who else are you going to vote for. They "THINK" we don't have other choices. We do. Those choices are not going to be very nice.
DBQ, you have hit it on the nose.
Jim in St Louis said...
the majority of americans would just like the whole thing to be over
They do?
Most of them won't even take notice until Labor Day.
PS Daddy Cruz finally tells Megyn he's never cheated.
After a couple of weeks of lawyerly weaseling.
I guess WI is going to be closer than we thought. This from the second Bush candidate.
My question is bound vs. unbound delegates. My guess is the unbound would tend to come from open primary states. Why would a delegate be bound to vote at the GOP convention strictly accd to the primary outcome? Lots of Dems voting in the GOP primary would have been trying to sway the outcome.
Lots of Dems voting in the GOP primary would have been trying to sway the outcome.
Then we shouldn't have open primaries, should we?. That would prevent this type of voting to screw up the other party's candidate choice. California is open for voting on most everything EXCEPT In the general election a Democrat or Republican can vote for any candidate. Only in the primary elections, are they not allowed to cross party lines. This is because primaries are where each party chooses its candidate and voters from one party shouldn't have a vote in who runs for the other party.
I used to be registered Independent, which meant that I couldn't vote in the presidential primary for either party Dem or Rep in California. Since I mostly vote Repub, I re registered so I could at least vote in ONE of the primaries.
However....since that IS the process that had been decided upon (open primary) then the delegates should be bound to vote for the candidate that won their district or state.
If it turns out that in OUR district the Republican choice is Trump (as it seems likely to be) and the delegates say....fuck it....I'm voting for Kasich or Cruz or Paul Ryan, I would seriously want to track them down and do something really mean and nasty.
deborah said...
My question is bound vs. unbound delegates. My guess is the unbound would tend to come from open primary states. Why would a delegate be bound to vote at the GOP convention strictly accd to the primary outcome? Lots of Dems voting in the GOP primary would have been trying to sway the outcome.
Depends, a certain number may be bound, others not. Varies by state. The rules basically mean only Cruz and Trump can be put in nomination on the first ballot, Kasich is out. The shenanigans start on the second ballot.
Demos voting in open primaries vote for delegates to the convention. Who sent them there is not documented because, once you show your ID, all you're asked is whether you want an R or D ballot. Registration isn't checked - at least it wasn't in OH. And, remember, Bernie was thought to be a dead duck in the early going. How many Demos voted for Trump because he looked like a stand-up guy and how many were doing their own "Operation Chaos" (and remember how that turned out) is up for grabs.
From what little I've seen, anything would be fair game after the first ballot, so Cruz is counting on Trump coming up short - remember what DBQ said about CA. That's why he wanted the Rubio delegates and Rubio said he wanted them bound to him - maybe he thinks he can be the fair-haired boy. Cruz is also trying to recruit Whigs to go for him on the second ballot - people who wouldn't be credentialed delegates for the first ballot; technically within the rules, but what a lot of people would see as dirty pool.
PS We've come to the point where it's obvious Cruz is the second Bush family candidate and all the One True Conservative Shining On A Hill stuff was a scam and all the "Conservatives" that have been name-calling and such are going to have to realize they've been played.
Hillary is really into "bound delegates." That's how she first met Huma.
You didn't see how she spent the weekend, leather coat and all.
"Hillary is considering Al Franken as VP."
See how vile it would be to let her win. The Republicans should pick whoever can beat her, period. I don't care if it's Honey Boo Boo. That's why I'm even willing to vote for Trump, but he's not a good bet, which is why I hope they nominate anyone else. I've never been a fan of "the ends justifies the means", but like killing baby Hitler, we can't give her the job.
Interesting poll taken in Wisconsin April 1-3. Clinton and Sanders are within 1% of each other. Clinton has blown a 12% lead she held earlier this year.
And Trump is up 10% over Cruz.
Poll here.
Hooooo-Leeeee, as Art Fern used to say.
Any idea how accurate these people are?
I got the feeling the tide had turned somewhat when they started talking about how Cruz' lead had "expanded" to 5 or 6 up (ie, that it was as close as we both thought last week), but this is out in the stratosphere.
A blowout like that would be a disaster for the NeverTrump crowd. There was a piece (McClatchy, of all people) over the weekend about how important a subject trade was, and I thought the Demos might come out enough for Trump to keep it close, but this one is beyond me.
We shall see.
PS The Hillary-Bernie thing does seem to be on the money.
What most people don't realize is that on a national level, trade and immigration rank fairly low vs. the economy and terrorism. So Trump can bring up in the primaries that Trade and Illegal Immigration are serious issues and they are, if he wins the primary and gets into the general, he's going to have to keep the momentum going on displacing the economy and terrorism as the top issues the county is facing and that is going to be a hard thing to do.
Nearly everything people are upset about on all sides is due to government overreach and incompetence, yet the majority of Americans on all sides want the government to solve their problems. This is what is wrong with Obama, The Clintons, The Bushes, Sanders, Kasich, and Trump. Everyone wants them to fix stuff. They don't fix stuff - they fuck it up. I want a President that sits in the basement, smokes pot, and plays video games all day.
With Trump, you'd have one that stays in the Master Bedroom and screws his wife.
Good enough?
That would be even better. Can we get a campaign promise on that? Maybe at the convention.
You saw the picture of Melania.
Yes, but he is very fickle you know. I'd hate for him to get bored and start wandering into the oval office naked and holding a pen.
edutcher said...
You saw the picture of Melania.
If she was with me, I'd never leave the bedroom either.
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