Washington Post: Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is close to ensuring that Donald Trump cannot win the GOP nomination on a second ballot at the party’s July convention in Cleveland, scooping up scores of delegates who have pledged to vote for him instead of the front-runner if given the chance.
The push by Cruz means that it is more essential than ever for Trump to clinch the nomination by winning a majority of delegates to avoid a contested and drawn-out convention fight, which Trump seems almost certain to lose.
The GOP race now rests on two cliffhangers: Can Trump lock up the nomination before Cleveland? And if not, can Cruz cobble together enough delegates to win a second convention vote if Trump fails in the first?
198 comments:
Good news. Trump is name-calling, mud-slinging, flinging his own poo, and throwing another temper tantrum. Go Trump!
.@glennbeck: I would not be surprised, if Trump is denied the nomination, that he will endorse @HillaryClinton and campaign for her election.
Drudge is going all in for Trump.
"When the presidential nomination vote is held at the convention, 95 percent of the delegates will be bound to the results in their states for the first vote, giving Trump his best shot at securing a majority.
But if Trump falls short, the convention will cast a second ballot in which more than 1,800 delegates from 31 states — nearly 60 percent of the total — will be unbound and allowed to vote however they want. By the third round, 80 percent of the delegates would be free, sparking a potential free-for-all that could continue for several more rounds.
That is the crux of the state-by-state battle that is playing out over the next two months as Republicans gather at the precinct, county, congressional district and statewide level to choose convention delegates."
Either Trump gets the nomination or the GOP commits suicide: a win win.
Trump will challenge a lot of those delegates, so it ain't in the bag for Daddy Cruz yet yet.
As a lot of people missed this last night (my browser was acting weird), I think it's a good idea to repost Resolution to Forbid Colorado Delegates from Voting for Trump so we all understand CO had nothing to do with being "outhustled".
PS Anybody who thinks McConnell is going to let the Anointed One get the nod is dreaming.
Witness this from the Washington Examiner. Can you say 1100?
AprilApple said...
Good news. Trump is name-calling, mud-slinging, flinging his own poo, and throwing another temper tantrum. Go Trump!
No, that's you, dear.
Let me go back to that silly comment by April.
Who is name-calling, mud-slinging, flinging his own poo, and throwing another temper tantrum?
Sounds like Daddy again.
It is mystifying that the is such a deep and abiding contempt for. the people who voted for Trump.
Drudge is so in the tank for Trump he is now linking to Mother Jones.
*face palm*
The 210 People, Places and Things Donald
Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List
The list is missing many of the insults flung at Ben Carson.
ie: "Ben Carson has a pathological incurable temper and is a child molester. "
Considering Trump does have ties with mobsters, I don't see how that's an insult.
Some folks worship mobsters.
I'm certain the media won't use Trump's mob ties against him in the general.
nah - they'd never do that.
You failed to note the word "alleged", like those allegations (which have yet to be refuted) that the Anointed One is a serial philaderer.
AprilApple said...
Drudge is so in the tank for Trump he is now linking to Mother Jones.
Given Mother is a Lefty rag, I'd say it shows his objectivity, but it's OK for all the bloggers and radio talker bought and paid for by Daddy Cruz.
Hmmm, looks like the Whigs aren't the only ones with problems. Feel The Bern may not support queen Cacklepants.
It is mystifying that the is such a deep and abiding contempt for. the people who voted for Trump.
I was mystified at first as well, and I don't know if the crazy Trump supporters I read on Facebook and Twitter are looming larger because social media makes them appear like a majority, but good grief, virtually all of the posts I read are crazy. Mean. Obsessed. Nothing inspiring. Creepy idol worship.
I don't like how ugly all of this is. It's very unsettling to me. I'm dreading the rest of the election season.
That said, still going to pull the lever if he's the man. But yikes. Not happy about it. Uninspired.
Talking about "mob ties" is one of the worst smears you can possibly use. No wonder Spinelli is on board with it. He is down with anything that smears New York, the Irish, the Italians or Trump. Typical.
Look if you do business in New York in the 1970 or 1980's or even the 1990's you did business with the Mob. If you had a cannoli at the Feast or bought fish or ordered concrete or bought something at Shoprite Supermarket you did business with the Mob.
When Frank Perdue wanted to bring his chicken to New York he called up Paul Castellano who controlled three supermarket chains. When they asked Perdue why he called him he said "He's the Godfather. He is the guy you have to business with if you want to do business in New York."
The owner of the Nets is a member in good standing with the Russian Mafia. If I go to a Brooklyn Nets game am I doing business with the Mafia? Putin is another member in good standing of the Russian Mafia. One of the leaders of it in fact. Should we not negotiate and "do business" with him?
Hai-ya! Karate block. Second ballot.
I love it when people tell me of their astral projections. Although I don't recommend it as icebreaker, "Say, have you had any interesting astral projections lately?" And I hasten among the least interesting are projections into solemnly visualized political future. Like gazing into a crystal ball until you feel you slip into it and observe what occurs. The pictures are never pure, they cannot be, loaded up with all the projectors heartfelt baggage, like luggage stacked all over the place, a projection into one's own attic, it cannot be a pure raw picture that one enters by surprise, no, one sees their own collections, then reports on it.
The apparent babbling of a child's dream is more valid and interesting.
I couldn't even follow. It went to the trombone wa wa wa wa voice immediately and I'm sitting here thinking I'm reading and realize, oh yeah, that would be the internal editor blurring it all out to water. Funny how it just redirected like that, just switched the railroad tracks while I was reading. To protect me. Operating on previous orders. "When you get to more of of this crap: skip to anywhere." And that's what happened. It's a beautiful and incredibly stupid thing actually, but it works. Just like that *snap* I'm shunted to thinking about pop-up cards or the nice girl at Quiznos, or the walks to three places in one day and my legs turned to noodles. It's brilliantly retarded.
And that's what you call blocking.
There are many crazy Trump fans. Because he has tapped into something that is out there and didn't have a focus. Didn't have a gathering point that could give voice to a feeling that was out there. It started with the tea party. That was the genteel good government nice manifestation. The Trump movement is a rougher, cruder, coarser more populist manifestation. It is being stomped on hard by the establishment of both parties. They are pulling out every trick in the book. Instead of letting the voters decide they are trying to manipulate it there voices will be ignored.
I keep telling you. If you don't give this a chance you are really not going to like who comes along next. Who will pick up the Trump playbook and take it to the next level. And you know what? It might not be just on the conservative side. It could be on the liberal side as well.
The tectonic shelves of the body politic are shifting. It is slipping away from a left/right axis. It is moving to up/down axis. The upper class elite and the masses. The right figure could strike a chord with the masses and result in something that will be very very unfortunate.
RNC member Bob Evans says Trump will win nomination if he clears 1100 delegates! Hee Haw!!!
Sure the gang robs, steals, and murders, but their our gang.
Who said this?
A) Tupac
B) Boss Tweed
C) Mao
D) Al Sharpton
E) A Trumper
F) All of the above
Darcy said...
It is mystifying that the is such a deep and abiding contempt for. the people who voted for Trump.
I was mystified at first as well, and I don't know if the crazy Trump supporters I read on Facebook and Twitter are looming larger because social media makes them appear like a majority, but good grief, virtually all of the posts I read are crazy. Mean. Obsessed. Nothing inspiring. Creepy idol worship.
I don't like how ugly all of this is. It's very unsettling to me. I'm dreading the rest of the election season.
That said, still going to pull the lever if he's the man. But yikes. Not happy about it. Uninspired.
I don't know about social media - I imagine it cuts both ways out there (and I do mean out there), but I imagine it's like it is here on the blogosphere, as far as the Cruzzers are concerned.
This was a planned strategy by the Cruz campaign from the start of the primaries. You see it most on blogs like Insta - only pro-Cruz material, false or misrepresentative claims, lots of name-calling by trolls, never answering any negative Cruz charges or rebuttals.
Almost a textbook definition of projection. Imagine a hundred Aprils coming at you when you try to make the smallest point.
Trooper York said...
Talking about "mob ties" is one of the worst smears you can possibly use. No wonder Spinelli is on board with it. He is down with anything that smears New York, the Irish, the Italians or Trump. Typical.
Look if you do business in New York in the 1970 or 1980's or even the 1990's you did business with the Mob. If you had a cannoli at the Feast or bought fish or ordered concrete or bought something at Shoprite Supermarket you did business with the Mob.
These people have no idea how the unions work in this country, I doubt most have even seen "On The Waterfront".
They certainly have no idea what the mob war in the 70s between Philadelphia and Gotham for control of the casinos in AC was like. After Angie Bruno got it, there wasn't a weekend where a least one car trunk didn't yield a body or two. This is the environment Trump had to work in, as much as Steve Wynn or Bill Harrah.
But let April omit the word alleged from those charges of mob ties, and we'll on=mit it from those charges of Teddy's serial adultery.
The correct answer to Chips' question is:
G) George Steinbrenner
Ha Ha.
Baggy - "their"? Sounds like someone needs an ESL course.
I understand how the mob controlled the northeast w/ terror. And, I understand how they were intertwined w/ the economy, making legit people have to do biz w/ them. I also understand how these lowlife thugs turned on one another and are virtually extinct now, w/ the help of an Italian US Attorney. I get all that. And, my slam was not against Trump. My slam is against the people who glorify these scum thugs who preyed on the vulnerable.
I think I was just schooled by Chip. I think. Anyway, it was delightful.
bagoh20 said...
Sure the gang robs, steals, and murders, but their our gang.
Nobody. It's "they're our gang".
ricpic said...
RNC member Bob Evans says Trump will win nomination if he clears 1100 delegates! Hee Haw!!!
I think I know why. First, we are talking deal; second, we are talking Daddy.
Look at this story regarding the Anointed One's Canadian citizenship. What's interesting is it's off Fox.
They may not like The Donald, but Daddy is starting to scare them I'm thinking.
I saw On The Waterfront in my late teens and raved about it in one of my college classes. My commie professor expressed reservations. Little did I understand in my innocence that the sticking point was Kazan's naming names to the Un-American Activities Committtee. After that he could do no right among the "intellectuals."
You are not glorifying some one if you write about them and even if you highlight some of their qualities that are admirable. You are not glorifying gunfighters who are basically murderers and thieves if you write westerns. You are not glorifying adulterers and sinners if you write love stories or bodice rippers. You are not glorifying orcs and trolls if you write epic fantasy.
You can make fun of my spellin, but I know I have a very good brain.
I may not be smart, but I know a guy who can break legs.
Glorifying? We're talking about doing business with. Which means supporting and encouraging. You know, paying them to break the law, like hiring illegals. Oh, that's right, these are our illegals.
You do business with them if you use a private company to haul your trash.
They are your illegals, bagman - were they mine they would be legally ensconced in prison or on their way back to their 8th world shit hole, you know, Los Angeles. Right next to LAX.
And if you are making threats, be very careful - you have revealed a lot of personal information on here, so tread lightly.
Look, nobody's glorifying them, but, except for Rudy Giuliani and Ed Dennis, who broke up a lot of the mob in the 80s, you see very few people trying to take them down.
Little Nicky Scarfo and his counterparts up Route 1 broke the first and second commandments of mob life - you don't involve civilians and you keep it out of the papers.
There were rules in them thar days and you paid a price if you broke them.
ricpic, They honored Kazan @ the Oscars before he died. I remember the director of the Oscar show cutting to Ed Harris and his actress wife. They sat in their seats scowling. Assholes! Some others did as well, but Kazan got a standing ovation from most.
"
You do business with them if you use a private company to haul your trash."
And if you could choose (vote) to use someone respectable and legal?
Sixty, Clean up your act. You are the only one who stoops that low.
ed, This and other blogs are replete w/ the glorification of these organized crime thugs. Duh. I always bit my tongue. I'm done doing that.
@Darcy
I was mystified at first as well, and I don't know if the crazy Trump supporters I read on Facebook and Twitter are looming larger because social media makes them appear like a majority, but good grief, virtually all of the posts I read are crazy. Mean. Obsessed. Nothing inspiring. Creepy idol worship.
Exactly. I'd add-- conspiratorial and thin-skinned.
You know why I reveal so much personal info? Because I don't have anything to hide, and I trust the people here to be decent.
Troop, I agree with the anti-establishment idea and I do not like how the party has treated Trump. There are moments, though, where I wonder if some of the resistance has to do with the same doubts I have about Trump's sincerity most of all, but lately, his perceived recklessness. He is more and more coming off as ill-prepared for the job. Scary.
Start with yourself, douchebag:
"bagoh20 said...
I may not be smart, but I know a guy who can break legs."
If that is what you consider "decent", well, some of us practice martial arts, so, as I said, tread lightly.
Trump supporters also make everything personal. They lash out with pseudo-psycho-babble, followed by shaming... (how dare you not support our guy! Why, you hire illegals, don't you!) Do you feel as if they are going throw a brick thru your window and leave a burning bag of poo on your door step? oh - and anyone who doesn't support Trump blindly is mentally deficient. Yeah - that's not crazy.
Is there another word for creepy?
Sixty, If you had a really good brain like me and Trump, you'd know that wasn't a threat, but obvious satire of the idea of working with thugs.
Ah grasshopper. I respect your skills. Now snatch this pebble from my hand.
I know a guy who's brother-in-law knows a guy with a yellow belt in Mao Tse Tung, so back off dude.
Sorry Darcy. You were being so reasonable and serious, and I busted out with my humble blogger kung fu. I do apologize, and agree with you entirely, even on the voting for jerk if I have to. Welcome back, BTW.
ndspinelli said...
ed, This and other blogs are replete w/ the glorification of these organized crime thugs.
You never heard it from me. I even thought "The Sopranos" was dumb.
AprilApple said...
Trump supporters also make everything personal
I'll just let that sit there.
And, while there has never been any doubt that you worship Mao in your ugly little collectivist heart, if your brain were half as large as you seem to think it is you would know that martial arts include time at the range, in my case, off hand shooting of a .45 caliber pistol. La pistola, among the primitives you embrace, so while I won't snatch a pebble from your greasy dark hand, if I were you, I would be more concerned about drawing back a bloody stump.
Now get back to ass fucking your illegals - they miss you.
Oh, did I write "ass fucking"? I meant "offering a living wage to those not entitled to breathe American air".
Now you're threatening me with a firearm? Nice, dude. Just stop. I'll ignore you from now on, for my own safety, and to keep you out of jail.
Bags you often did not have a choice. Until Giuliani came in the carting companies in NY were all mobbed up. If you wanted to buy chicken or beef or artichokes or fish from the fish market you had to deal with mobbed up guys in one way or another.
The Garment industry was the same way. The trucking companies were all mobbed up and you dealt with Tommy Gambino or you stuff didn't get shipped.
Far be it from me to dispute an expert from the mean streets of Madison Wisconsin but some people don't know jackshit about the Mob other than what they see in the movies. Many if not most were miserable despicable thugs. But there were some mooks who were forced into it because it was the family business. Or they reaped the economic benefits of their grandfather selling bathtub gin and running numbers. They had nothing to do with it but they own three brownstones that are worth three million dollars apiece now. No different than the Rockefeller's or the Vanderbilt's or the Astor's who got respectable after enough time had passed.
I won't pretend I know the best way to tape Jack and Diane at the Tastyfreeze when he has his hand between her knees. That is not my area of expertise. I don't live in a little pink house in a small town. I guess that limits me to the point where I shouldn't opine on weighty matters. But I do know something about dealing with mobbed up businesses and I can tell you that Ted Cruz is just using that to smear Trump with the hicks and the rubes and the holy rollers who hate them there Eyetalians. Even self hating half a guineas who hate New York, New Yorkers, shanty Irishman, reality shows and proud wops who don't think they have to apologize for what some criminals might do.
Guido Lives Matter.
Thank you, bagoh20
Trooper York said...
The Garment industry was the same way. The trucking companies were all mobbed up and you dealt with Tommy Gambino or you stuff didn't get shipped.
Correct me where I go wrong. The 5 families were pretty much based 1 to a borough and Giuliani nailed the Bonanno, Colombo, and Gambino families to the point the were shadows of what they used to be.
I know Ed Dennis nailed Nicky Scarfo in Philadelphia.
How can you not love Troop? That was awesome. Troop makes Trump cuddly.
Troop - you know darn well, fair or not, the media are going to dig up and throw every speck of dirt they can find at Trump. If Cruz is bringing this up now, it's just pay-back for all Trump's nasty "Lyin' Ted" smears. Trump is a proud New Yorker. I thought proud New Yorkers and thicker skin?
There's another article out there that reminds us that Trump hired a mobster, and then denied it. If Trump is supposed to be proud of his New York mobster ties - why lie & deny? Sing it!
Guido lives matter.
I have a question for the lovely Darcy and other normal people here. Are you comfortable with Sixty Grit's unhinged comments in response to bagoh20's innocuous comments? Why do people here not rein in such a fellow commenter that spews such disgusting garbage? Do you people not have any scruples? Why do you allow these types of threatening and violent comments to stand? No courage? What? I thought people here considered bagoh20 a friend. Is this how you treat your friends?
Troop, if you don't have a choice in New York, then you don't, but would it be fair to call that situation a result of "New York values" if it happens there, but not in some place like Iowa. This is what Cruz meant, and what people from outside understand it to mean: big city, political/criminal corruption. Trump worked in it, and chose to. Of course the little guy has no choice, but Trump should have simply taken his business elsewhere. That was one of his big mistakes with Trump Casinos. Even though he was building it from scratch, he chose a location at the very bottom of business friendliness: New Jersey #50 out of 50 in the nation. He had the resources and ability to choose otherwise, just not the wisdom and foresight. Is he smarter now? His poor organization and execution lately seems to show he isn't.
Thanks Meade, but I'm fine. It's an open forum, which is why I found banning you to be unfortunate.
Are you the dead member of Milly? Can't you take a joke? Dude threatens to break legs, it's a joke.
Everything I wrote in response to that was also humor. Get it? It's all jokes. Did you forget to laugh?
But thanks for your concern. And, I am just guessing here, but did you change your handle from Fin to Milly Vanilli just for misdirection?
AprilApple,
It must be exceedingly evident by now to most normal people that those who continue to see Trump and his followers as normal thinking rational people have a blind spot. These people run on hate and anger, nothing more. It drives them, it's what makes them tick, what keeps them breathing air. Hatred and anger, they feed on it. It's in their veins, their minds, their hearts, their souls.
I'm not Meade.
Now that is comedy gold, right there!
Sixty,
No one would've taken bagoh20's comment as a threat to breK legs, unless they have a screw loose. Dude, it was obviously a joke and you ran away with in order to vent your bilge. You're one vile piece of human refuse.
That may or may not be true, but what is "breK"?
How are Anne and the kids?
"Break" legs, make sure you comment on the misspelling Sixty.
You sure are slow.
Milly Vanilli said...
AprilApple,
It must be exceedingly evident by now to most normal people that those who continue to see Trump and his followers as normal thinking rational people have a blind spot. These people run on hate and anger, nothing more. It drives them, it's what makes them tick, what keeps them breathing air. Hatred and anger, they feed on it. It's in their veins, their minds, their hearts, their souls.
You obviously haven't been here when April's off her meds. Or over at Insta.
Of course you commented on a misspelling. Sixty what is it in your life that has made you the way you are? Do you truly not see yourself and your behavior as being abberant? Hint, it's not normal to overreact to innocuous comments in the crazed way you regularily do. I hope you live far away from others. You shouldn't live amongst people, perhaps you see the world as some sort of jungle?
Mr.Ed,
The only two here who seems to be off their meds are you and Sixty Gripes. Get a grip, you old geezers.
Milly - I'm not into banning people, but after that unhinged threat, I'd ban Sixty. He brings nothing.
Hey Sixty, did you ever send obscene emails to a certain female blogger? I seem to have heard that rumor a few years ago.
Meade, you old kidder you, you almost had me going!
Milly - Ed has a personal fixation with me. Read all his posts (I take that back. Don't. It's head-ache inducing.) It's April this... April that. April April April.
oi.
AprilApple,
The fact that Sixty hasn't been banned already doesn't speak well for this blog. That people here don't chastise Sixty for his vile behavior in the past and presently, doesn't speak well for the people who regularily comment here. Decency seems to have been in short supply here for quite sometime now.
April, I've been reading them. One of the reasons I've come out of lurking to comment.
You see bags you are illustrating why you don't know what you are talking about.
A little history.
In the 1970's the only legal casino gambling was in Las Vegas. The Mob controlled gambling. There were illegal casinos in every city you just had to know somebody. There were bookies and numbers runners in every ethnic neighborhood. Now Walt Cleaver didn't put down a bet in suburbia but then he didn't have any decent food or wine or drugs there either.
Then the government decided to get involved. It started things like Off Track Betting and Lotto to cut into the gambling business. New Jersey was in a mess. Atlantic City was a wasteland. So they decided that they would let them open strictly regulated casinos. They tried to keep the mob out as much as they could. But at the time there were only two places were gambling was legal.
Now Trump is drawn to celebrity and excitement. Especially in his younger days. Almost everyone has to prove themselves to their father. It is a common psychological meme that even bumpkins from Wisconsin have heard of in their community college days. Trump had to prove himself to his Dad Fred who made his money in very conservative fashion. Principally large housing developments and real estate in the Outer Boroughs. So going to Atlantic City and Manhattan and being a macher on the back page of the NY Post made his small hands erect.
He was the casino guy. He had a huge rivalry with Steve Wynn and they fought it out on the Boardwalk. Trump started promoting fights and was seen all over with Mike Tyson and Don King. The celebrity life is what interested him. Just as hypocrisy and sanctimony are mothers milk to Ted Cruz. That's another father thing in case you don't know.
A funny thing happened to the casino business. The government decided that if anybody was going to fleece the rubes it would be them. So instead of just Lotto there are ten different numbers games. The daily number. Lotto. Mega Millions. Power Ball. They licensesed casinos all over the place. The mob and sovereign Indian nations teamed up to make basiclly untaxed and unregulated casinos on so reign Indian land that a regular casino could not compete with and which as a consequence destroyed Atlantic City. It wasn't mismanagement. It was direct government action that destroyed their business. The kind of thing you protest all the time bags. There is a casino in Aqueduct racetrack now. You can't swing a dead cat and not hit a casino.
That's what happened. If you are interested in the facts.
Milly, everyone knows you are Meade and a coward. There was no threat. Read it again, then ask your "wife" to clarify what constitutes a threat, dickwad.
Concern troll is concerned.
I'm not Meade Sixty, I'm not Ann Althouse. Don't threaten him and his wife. Don't threaten people on this blog. I'll make sure I come out of lurking to point out to others here that your demented rantings are not normal and decent people do not have to tolerate them. To the commenters here, you're judged by the company you keep. If you continue to provide a forum for the filth that Sixty shits out of the orifice he calls a mouth, you end up smelling as nasty as he does.
Darcy, you my dear woman are a hypocrite.
Kind of slow on the uptake, aren't you, Milly. If what you say is true, then you are being judged and found wanting.
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, booyah!
Now run along before the missus gets home and finds out you have been on the computer again!
Darcy professes discomfiture at the rhetoric surrounding Trump, yet she tolerates abuse of others right in front of her perky nose. Maybe she's used to the smell of shit and doesn't recognize it for what it is? Such a Christian, that Darcy.
Sixty Shits,
I plan on being this blog's conscience. Someone has to do it since most of you seem to have lost your sense of smell. You want to threaten someone? Try threatening me. You may be surprised.
Now having to deal with the criminal element is not just a New York or Northeast situation. It happens in Chicago. Philly. Even places like Texas and Kentucky and Tennessee you have to deal with the Dixie Mafia. Often organized crime was situated in the actual police and sheriffs departments.
That's why when the civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi they had to import Greg Scarpa to deal with them.
You just very naive man. You deal with mobbed up companies all the time. You just don't know it.
I have never threatened anyone, Meade, and I won't start now. So get down off your high horse, Anne is not looking, and we are not impressed.
The commenters here and at Troop's blog are mostly male. And manly males. They can sort out their differences. I often feel the (womanly, I think) urge to interfere, but I've come to believe that feeling is more for my comfort than for what is "decent".
Don't get me started on "decent". I am not drawn to "decent". I am drawn to real.
When did Meade morph into Milli Vanilli?
It was the weave that did it.
Chicago is a criminal enterprise? No way!
We are all prisoners of our psychology. Trump is trying to prove to his Dad that he can make it in the big city. In the bright lights. That he doesn't have to be afraid to shine and that he doesn't have to fear and hide his gelt in the shadows. He wants celebrity and everyone to admire him and think him great, terrific, yuge and one of a kind. Trump!
Teddy has to prove that his father that he can be the Super Christian Super Conservative Super unbending advocate for his values. No surrender for Ted. He is the One True Ted. The defender of the faith. The only one who will not compromise his conservatives principles. No matter how much he has to cheat and lie and scheme to succeed. Ted!
You have to decide which one is scarier to you.
But Troop, those Indian Casinos did have the advantage of giving D list entertainment acts and one hit bands a nation wide circuit to play at.
Here's a real fact for you Darcy, sweetie. You come across as being an enabler to violent threatening behavior. That's not pretty, or feminine, it's cowardly or callous, or both.
Troop, your explanation makes Trump sound even worse than I do. He made these huge mistakes because he loves celebrity? Nice thing in a President. We already have one of those guys, and he ruins traffic for the whole day every time he comes to visit his celebrity friends.
Anyway, the important thing is that only Trump performed so poorly at that business at that time. His competitors cleaned his clock. This is how you compare ability, competence and intelligence - with a man's peers. In other words, an epic fail at the thing that's supposed to be his forte. Your excuse for him is that he couldn't control his impulses and weaknesses enough to make better decisions. I can't think of a more damning thing to say about him. Are you part of the establishment or a secret Cruzidore yourself?
Hey don't knock it. That was what made old Las Vegas great.
I was there once for a week and the lounge show at the Sands was fucking unbelievable. They had Little Anthony and the Imperials. Al Green. Jerry Vale. It was awesome.
Yes, I am a hypocrite. Every one of us is a hypocrite. It's an overused label that carries no weight with me. I'm a sinner too!
I trust that Sixty and Bags can sort this out and that no one here is threatening real violence. But then I've been called naive too.
It was the weave that did it.
He didn't make huge mistakes bags. That is your interpretation. In went into a business where the terms changed. Steve Wynn his closest analog faired much better. Because he sold out and went off shore where the regulations were better.
I am explaining the psychology behind both Trump and Cruz. I think Trumps is much more benign then Teddy. But we can agree to disagree.
Sometimes we start to enjoy the fight and the argument so much that we stake out positions that we might not on sober reflection really want to support. I have this discussion with Ritmo all the time. We can be diametrically opposed in our opinions but still appreciate and enjoy each other. I feel the same way about you and April.
I keep telling you that Trump is an agent of change. The only agent of change in the offing. Hillary is not. Ted Cruz is not. You know what? Bernie might be one but he is a change in the wrong direction. Ted Cruz is just a tool. The establishment and the conservative pundits are using him for their own purposes.
Darcy,
You trust Sixty to act normally? Really? Truly? You must not be firmly rooted in reality. I thought you liked to be "real".
I find it disappointing that in a nation of over 330 million people we can't find a single statesman to even run for the office of president. That is the scariest thing about this election - the four ass-clowns still in the running are the best we have, or at least, all we have to select from. Very sad.
Nobody needs banned. I'm sure Sixty and I would get along great in person. We probably have each other completely wrong. I know he is way off on me, and it likely goes both ways... like Trooper on Saturday nights.
Yes, that's what we are missing. A statesman. Hillary's supporters will call her such because of her former positions, but she is horribly inept as a stateswoman. Inept is too kind.
Well Sixty that is pretty much how it has been through out history. The guys we look as as great "statesman" developed that reputation after they were out of office.
Perhaps our greatest President Abe Lincoln was called a baboon and an idiot throughout his term. He did a lot of very questionable things albeit in the time of war.
The last guy who I guess could be termed a "statement" was George HW Bush who had all the experience and credentials you could ask for. How did that work out?
I would like a regular guy with good instincts and a good heart myself. Someone who will deal with the problems and then retire. Cincinnatus if you will.
We had that once in George Washington. That is generally the rule in most empires.
I suspect you are correct, Bags, as we probably have a lot more in common than we let on.
The comment I deleted was a phrase I learned from The Sopranos, when someone says something outrageous, it goes "Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!"
Like Trooper on Saturday nights.
I mean statesman. Sorry I was rushing.
But Bush I is what you are talking about. Someone with a lot of experience and smarts who has served in many different roles. There are guys like that. But they will never run. They never have more or less.
Trump is really outside of the mold. He is not a lawyer or a politician. Maybe his example will lead to other types of people to try. It would be a good thing.
I would have gone with GW the first - George Washington. He was a statesman. Bush, not so much (checks watch)...
Sixty, just like Trump, can only act normally for short periods of time. Quickly, they revert back.
ed, The Sopranos was actually good IMO. It did not glorify the thugs. It showed them to be lowlifes. Some interesting. Some lame. Some intelligent. Some stupid. Some w/ some redeeming qualities. But, in scenes like Pauly burglarizing one of his mother's friends, having her walk in on him, and him strangling her, showed just who these guys REALLY are. David Chase knew Italians and got the subtle traits down pat, just like Coppola did in The Godfather. I enjoy Organized Crime flicks, Westerns, and movies that portray bad guys. But, I don't want them glamorized. Al Swearingen in Deadwood was what these guys were like. I loved the show. I loved the writing, the characters, because they were not glamorized.
edutcher said...
Trump will challenge a lot of those delegates, so it ain't in the bag for Daddy Cruz yet yet.
As a lot of people missed this last night (my browser was acting weird), I think it's a good idea to repost Resolution to Forbid Colorado Delegates from Voting for Trump so we all understand CO had nothing to do with being "outhustled".
PS Anybody who thinks McConnell is going to let the Anointed One get the nod is dreaming.
Witness this from the Washington Examiner. Can you say 1100?
AprilApple said...
Good news. Trump is name-calling, mud-slinging, flinging his own poo, and throwing another temper tantrum. Go Trump!
No, that's you, dear.
Well, we'll see how good Trumps art of the deal really is now won't we? This is his time, so he should be getting shit together by now.
Herr Goebbels/Walter Mitty rants are the best. It shows that I strike a nerve when I skewer his propaganda and fantasies.
bagoh20 said...
I'm not aware of exactly how Cruz was an asshole in the Senate. I'm not saying he wasn't, but give me an example.
Making a big show of calling McConnell a liar on the floor of the Senate and then taking PAC money from him.
Calling his fellow Republican squishes because they didn't share his views on firearms (notice a pattern?).
Filibustering the Ocare omnibus spending bill for 21 hours and then voting for it.
Calling himself a Conservative, but voting for TPP and the Corker Amendment (both of which were universally panned by all quarters of Conservatism).
I know none of these will meet your standards, but it's something for you to chew on.
ndspinelli said...
ed, The Sopranos was actually good IMO
To each his own. I watched the last season and just could not see what all the panic was about.
Meade, you are about the funniest guy I know! I get the impression you actually think you are fooling people. Too many tells, dude, too many tells.
Apparently, the Demos are as worried about Hillary's low favorability as April is about The Donald's.
The difference?
Hillary's ratings will continue to slide the more people see of her.
Sixty, It is quite heartening to read your 2:48p comment. That's exactly how I think and feel.
If MD is The Donald's weakest state in the next 2 weeks, get ready for a blowout.
Trump 47% Kasich 27% Cruz a mere 19%.
When Cruz was in law school he wouldn't join study groups with non-Ivy Leaguers.
Isn't Milly Inga?
Never watched Sopranos, though I do like a good mob movie.
Oh I totally agree. But the guy you are talking about when you say "statesman" is a guy with a packed resume like George HW Bush. Or a guy like John Quincey Adams. Even Herbert Hoover. Also William Howard Taft. All guys with impressive resumes with lots of experience in government.
Not Andy Jackson. Not Lincoln. Not Truman. Not Nixon. Not Clinton or W or Carter or LBJ or Kennedy. None of them are people who would be considered "statesmen" for good or ill.
Who would you consider a statesman? Robert Gates? Condi Rice? Madeline Albright? Lawrence Summers? Shelby Steele?
It is also vastly amusing to see our vituperative gumshoe spout back to me things I have already said.
I had several posts detailing how the scene with Paulie Walnuts murdering his mothers friend illustrated what those guys are really like. Thanks for repeating it here. It is typical of your original and insightful commentary.
I guess when you don't have a creative bone in your body you have to rely on copying other people and lame name calling. I guess Turly has gotten so lame that it is not fun keeping order in those comment threads so the INTERNET police have to come here to tell us what to do.
Damn, Troop, what the fuck - are you channeling me channeling Sam Kinison? Boy, how do people wade through these freakin' comments?
Which is a round about way of asking "Is Turley still alive?"
What Methadras said: Well, we'll see how good Trumps art of the deal really is now won't we? This is his time, so he should be getting shit together by now.
Let's look on the bright side.
I've said before that the next President will be a failure regardless of who wins the election. All those chickens Obama and the Republicans have been kicking down the road will begin to come home to roost and start crapping all over whichever of our disappointing candidates wins the prize - Jihadis, illegals, debt, equity bubbles, Russians, Chinese, healthcare, racial antagonism, employment - the list goes on and there are no easy solutions, no happy days ahead. One candidate may get better results that another on a problem or two but overall he or she will be blamed for the continuing downfall of our once great country.
What's terrific about that is that if you hate Trump and he wins you'll have much to gloat about as the world implodes around him. The same goes for Cruz haters, Clinton haters and Bernie haters. It doesn't matter who wins, the country will be worse off in four years than it is today and there will be ample opportunity to gloat and show everyone that you were right all along.
So just be patient, your time to shine will come.
I dunno. Things looked pretty grim in '80 and Reagan ended up doing a decent job. He's certainly remembered fondly.
And one thing about The Donald, he'll almost certainly be a one term President. He'll be the oldest guy to take office if he wins., so I don't think he's gonna push his luck.
Who knows? He could be another James Polk - a man who kept all his promises.
deborah said...
When Cruz was in law school he wouldn't join study groups with non-Ivy Leaguers.
I can see it, but really?
Isn't Milly Inga?
God help us.
Wait till I raise what The Blonde says about Hillary and see if she screams how wrong she is.
I'd say being a statesman is important, but worth sacrificing for other qualities like competence, worldview, political philosophy, reliability, and others.
On Cruz's being an asshole: Most of those reasons above to me are either things I favor, like calling people out, inconsequential, or normal politics and necessary compromises to get half a loaf. The TPP is so complicated and byzantine, that even experts admit that nobody knows how it will work, so he should have voted nay for that reason alone. On Corker, which had only one nay vote, he answered:
“I voted no on cloture because we should have insisted on amendments to put real teeth in this bill. Ultimately, I voted yes on final passage because it may delay, slightly, President Obama’s ability to lift the Iran sanctions and it ensures we will have a Congressional debate on the merits of the Iran deal."
On the "filibustering the Ocare omnibus spending bill for 21 hours and then voting for it."
He fought it more than anyone, but it passed 100-0 simply because anyone who voted nay lost their chance to amend it later. Nobody wanted to throw that away just for a symbolic gesture.
So most of what some think makes an asshole is simply being in the job, and working it to best effect in my opinion. TPP was the exception for me. The Ivy league stuff sounds like rumor, or exaggeration, but either way irrelevant for me.
On calling out the establishment Republicans: That's bad now? Oh, he was blunt? Double standards are weird.
Look, if you say it's wrong, you stand by your decision, you don't join the crowd afterward and vote for it.
And his explanation of Corker is the same bull. Ditto TPP - "it's nuanced" somebody said.
Right.
And, as for "calling out the establishment Republicans", just talk. What did it accomplish?
Nothing, all show for the media and the gullible.
You want a guy who's got his act together, you want Sessions or Lee.
Daddy Cruz is a back bencher with great press agentry. Nothing else.
He's also a jerk who doesn't know when to sit down and shut up.
"I can see it, but really?"
Oh, wait, it's worse than I remembered:
"The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz's law-school roommates: "He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown.""
-GQ
Let's all shed a tear for the Penn and Brown graduates. boo hooooo. (And I'm a Brown grad.)
This falls into the category of Stuff No One Other Than The Opposition Cares About.
Boy, I have missed a whole lot between Nick and Troop having a beer together and now. Dang.
deborah said...
Oh, wait, it's worse than I remembered:
"The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale.
What was it Rabel said?
Sweet Mother of Pearl, whoever invented the phrase "sanctimonious prick" must have been listening to Ted Cruz talk when they had their revelation.
Imagine running him for President. God, the Lefties would have a ball.
I KNOW! Now it's more like Otsjanep and Michael Rockefeller...
I don't really hold it against him, he was very young at the time. On the other hand, it goes to personality.
This campaign season has caused me to limit Facebook to recipes, puppies, babies, and a few family and good friends. And no politics. Too many people are far too wound up about their candidates, and I don't care to see it any longer.
Yeah, I had to shut down a couple of Facebook friends who were not being at all friendly. There's a button you can push so you don't see their postings anymore.
AprilApple said...
Drudge is so in the tank for Trump he is now linking to Mother Jones.
*face palm*
To be fair to Drudge, he's linked many articles to Mother Jones. Now, Mother Jones is basically communist toilet paper, but I digress.
Amartel said...
Yeah, I had to shut down a couple of Facebook friends who were not being at all friendly. There's a button you can push so you don't see their postings anymore.
I made a quip on facebook that an ex-friend posted about something that Sanders said and I got unfriended. Needless to say that basically ended a 30 year friendship because I basically had little tolerance for people with no tolerance, so off with their heads.
deborah said...
Oh, wait, it's worse than I remembered:
"The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale.
You think that's exclusive to people like Cruz. You should see what it's like in the engineering world or at dotcoms. If you didn't come out of MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, or one of the UC schools then you are basically an inferior product of higher education. This academic elitism doesn't occur only in politics believe me.
I don't know either Darcy. I am the same as I have always been. At least I think I am. Same asshole different day.
But like Trump I am a counter puncher. So when I get hit as a Shanty Irishman Reality who never left his stoop in Brooklyn who doesn't know anything about anything I have to give it back. Sometimes the people who want to portray you as angry and envious are in fact projecting their deal onto you.
I am rubber. You are glue.
Okay guys, can we stop going after each other now? Please? I realize that we have our differences, but we or a lot of us left TOP for this very same reason and to find a refuge here, but god dammit, the presidential politics hurts and I get that, but that doesn't mean we need to crucify each other in the process. That would make us no better then the GOPe. I don't know who the fucking instigator Milly Vanilli is and I don't care if it's Meade, Inga, The fat curdfucker Garage, but they are irrelevant to what we have here.
I'm making a plea to all of you to please reign it back in with regards to how we attack each other. Stick to your guns and principals, but can we be kinder to each other a little?
I come back to Lems because I have fun here.
But yeah - I agree with Meth - can we ease up a bit? Even on Meade?
I read somewhere on-line: 'I cannot wait until this horrid election season is over, so I can get my friends back.'
Haz-Most of these people live in a bubble of samethink so when they see otherthink they get extremely offended and, when offended, screechy and rude and punitive. Diversity is an aesthetic rather than intellectual notion and politics is very, very personal. Needless to say, they post the most offensive - unintentionally funny, unthinking - political crap without any thought to whether it would offend people with other viewpoints. Pavlov's dogs have nothing on these people; they are very well trained by their masters. I just get tired of it and "hide" their posts until 2017 but they would "unfriend" me, for real and forever, if I posted politically on FB. You do find out who your real friends are, so there's that.
Re: this Milli person - Does anyone really feel we need a self-appointed cop in here? Stuff gets out of hand, as stuff will do, but we always rein ourselves and each other in.
April @5:29: exactly.
Michael Haz said...
This campaign season has caused me to limit Facebook to recipes, puppies, babies, and a few family and good friends.
You're still on FB?
The only reason I joined was to help The Blonde land a job.
deborah said...
I don't really hold it against him, he was very young at the time. On the other hand, it goes to personality.
There are 2 problems with it, and they both make his candidacy against any democrat a real problem.
First, if he was that big a stiff and a snob at 23, imagine how bad it is now. I took what
Rabel said with a laugh, but somebody who really thinks he's that special really is going to be a pain to work with, or for. I can see why he had 2 jobs in 2 years under Dubya and then left DC. I can also see why even his fellow Senate Conservatives don't like him.
Second, since the New Deal, we have lived in the Ago of the Common Man. To be President, it would seem, you have to be convivial enough so that people would see having a beer with you.
Not him. Not even for his starry-eyed acolytes. Trump, sure. Hillary, we all know likes to hoist a few. Kasich, yeah. Bernie, well, he's weird going in.
Stories like this would be tailor-made for the media (there are plenty more, we can rest assured) and they would dig out every last one.
"bagoh20 said...
Thanks Meade, but I'm fine. It's an open forum, which is why I found banning you to be unfortunate.
April 13, 2016 at 1:43 PM"
I'm not Milly Vanilli. I only comment under my own name and I have no use for sock puppets. So you guys are going to have to raise your game and deal with Milly Vanilli on your own to the best of your ability.
Lem emailed me 13 days ago after several people complained about my comments and asked him to ban me. As I told Trooper York yesterday, I'm fine with not commenting here any more as long as you all stop referring to me and/or Ann Althouse. I assumed Trooper was the principal complainer and he seems willing to abide by a mutual ignore agreement. Meanwhile, if anyone else refers to me or my wife or her blog, they can expect to see a comment from me.
Carry on.
If there's a vote, I'm voting NO on this. Not that I have any interest whatsoever in the proposed banned topic but you don't get to control what other people write about here. Also, the statement that you don't comment en sock is ludicrous.
I've lived a fascinating life, Walter Mitty. I don't need to "create" a life. I know your hero mobsters from betting w/ bookies in CT. and having some of those lowlifes in Leavenworth when I worked there. We had losers from NYC, Chicago and Florida @ Leavenworth when I worked there. When they learned there was a new dago hack they tried to schmooze me. They learned quickly it wouldn't work. You would have been their errand boy and ended up in the joint just like those losers. Joey "The Clown" Lombardo tried to schmooze my wife when he was on her caseload @ the MCC in Chicago. She is too smart to be schmoozed, told him she's German, not Italian when he commented about her last name. I've been around, Walter, no need to pretend.
Wow. If Meth is thinking we are playing too rough then I really have to dial it back.
If I antagonized anyone with my bullshit I apologize. I think bags and April know that I really appreciate the back and forth. It is all in good fun.
And there you go. That's why we can't have nice things.
I would like to second Meade's comment and ask that everyone refrain from mentioning him or his wife. It is only fair if he abides by his commitment.
Darcy, I like Jim Dolan. In person he's a gentleman and a pleasurable guy to spend time w/. But, I've always had a problem w/ the big shot NYer persona of Trooper York. Early on, years back, he and I went toe to toe on this issue. We have had these dust ups previously. If he keeps being the big shot NYer telling all us flyover people we don't know shit I'll keep knee capping him. I know it makes good people like you uncomfortable. I'm sorry for that.
Um, if I may, why come here in the first place?
We had a reason for leaving and one would think that would be enough on both sides.
Just askin'
ricpic said...
RNC member Bob Evans says Trump will win nomination if he clears 1100 delegates! Hee Haw!!!
Yeah and Paul Ryan yesterday conveniently disclaimed himself from consideration as being the GOPe nominee if a brokered convention happens in Cleveland. Look at how he said this:
"I have decided that I am not going to run for president in 2016," I have decided? Why would you decide not to if you weren't deciding to and decided against it or did someone approach you to run and you decided not to. Unbelievable the veiled speech this guy uses.
Then this little quip:
"Count me out. I simply believe that if you want to be the nominee, to be the president, you should actually run for it. I chose not to. Therefore, I should not be considered. Period."
So do not consider me, but I want you to consider me, not considering me to consider me. "Therefore, I should not be considered. Period." means he was considering and doesn't want to be considered. All of course unless some circumstance pulls him back in, like not wanting to be considered speaker and how all that came about.
One thing he said that baffled me though was that he's basically going to ignore Rule 40 by saying that any of the three candidates in the race so far could walk out as the nominee. This includes Kasich who has only won one state, not the minimum eight required by Rule 40, section B:
(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.
Also, if the convention and delegates cannot come to a conclusion on any of the 3 candidates, then anyone else can be nominated. So this will literally give Ryan the opportunity to leverage on being begged to run and he'll think about it for a minute and 'feel' compelled to due his duty because his country called.
Meade.
Meade.
Meade.
Yes, Rabel?
I will not allow a threat of any type dictate the content of my comments. Anyone who does should check their genitals.
I suggest you talk to Lem about it.
Why would I need to do that? Lem's not a pussy who yields to intimidation.
I will not abide.
Trooper York said...
Wow. If Meth is thinking we are playing too rough then I really have to dial it back.
If I antagonized anyone with my bullshit I apologize. I think bags and April know that I really appreciate the back and forth. It is all in good fun.
Blogger Trooper York said...
And there you go. That's why we can't have nice things.
Troop, it isn't that we aren't playing rough, it's that I think a lot of us are forgetting where the lines are and I see too much crossing into boundaries that we as people cultivated friendships with each other for a whole host of reasons besides presidential politics is all. And I realize that sometimes people forget themselves and say or do things that can be detrimental to friendships we've spent a lot of time making. I just saw things getting out of hand and these things take on a life of their own and they spiral out of control. I just don't want to see that happen her is what I'm saying.
I wasn't trying to be a downer... So can we go back to attacking the real enemy, the GOPe?
"Why would I need to do that?"
It's his blog.
"I will not abide."
Kudos to you.
ndspinelli said...
Darcy, I like Jim Dolan. In person he's a gentleman and a pleasurable guy to spend time w/. But, I've always had a problem w/ the big shot NYer persona of Trooper York. Early on, years back, he and I went toe to toe on this issue. We have had these dust ups previously. If he keeps being the big shot NYer telling all us flyover people we don't know shit I'll keep knee capping him. I know it makes good people like you uncomfortable. I'm sorry for that.
Doesn't make me uncomfortable only because I know the context by which you guys carry on. A lot of people may not, so with you two, I just sit back and eat my popcorn.
Hey, Nick, suppose Lem dictates what you say. You gonna do it?
If the shitbird doesn't like what's said about him or his alcoholic wife, shitbird can stop reading this blog. Some self discipline is all it takes.
Meade said...
I'm not Milly Vanilli. I only comment under my own name and I have no use for sock puppets. So you guys are going to have to raise your game and deal with Milly Vanilli on your own to the best of your ability.
Lem emailed me 13 days ago after several people complained about my comments and asked him to ban me. As I told Trooper York yesterday, I'm fine with not commenting here any more as long as you all stop referring to me and/or Ann Althouse. I assumed Trooper was the principal complainer and he seems willing to abide by a mutual ignore agreement. Meanwhile, if anyone else refers to me or my wife or her blog, they can expect to see a comment from me.
Carry on.
To call you a lying sack of rancid dog shit would be insulting sacks of rancid dog shit. You are about as believable as the cultivated persona that you are actually a male. Of any species. The day I capitulate to your demands, estrogen boy, is the day of well never. I know your passive aggressive type turd bird last word motherfucker. Pray you never meet me and I pray that you actually do.
Oh, and when a borderline personality, lying sack o' shit tries to engage you, NEVER respond directly.
Unfortunately, Lem is unduly influenced by the stronger personalities here. He was pressured into asking Meade to not comment here anymore after receiving emails by several commenter's here, as mentioned by Meade. How can Lem ask this of Meade and then comment on Meade's wife's blog? That is simply wrong. How about it Lem? Are you a man or a mouse?
To come back to the original subject of the post:
Cruz backed a ban on di(wrong one)
Looks like events may be getting ready to prove April wrong.
Looks like The Donald is over 50 in both RI and CT. Gonna be a couple of rough Tuesdays.
And the Anointed One may be paying a price for his CO "victory" in the polls.
Lem is not the problem. Never was.
Oh my. The ones who asked for civility are the first to fling poo.
Good point. They've pretty much outed themselves from the start.
Lem is bowled over by Trooper, by Sixty, by Meth, by the rest of the agressive commenters. Lem needs to grow a pair and not allow these people to dictate to him. It's your blog Lem, take responsibility for the tone and tenor of it. People here claim they left Athouse because of the tone, then they bring it here and amplify it 10 fold.
I know. It's as if they think Lem works for them.
For someone who said he wouldn't comment here he seems to comment a lot.
Is it sort of the same thing as Paul Ryan saying he will not accept the nomination?
So Lem, how about it? Who runs this blog? You or Trooper? If you don't want the responsibility, just hand it over to Trooper, he's been lusting after it for quite sometime now.
Milly Vanilli said...
Lem is bowled over by Trooper, by Sixty, by Meth, by the rest of the agressive commenters. Lem needs to grow a pair and not allow these people to dictate to him. It's your blog Lem, take responsibility for the tone and tenor of it. People here claim they left Athouse because of the tone, then they bring it here and amplify it 10 fold
Wrong and wrong.
Oh my. The ones who asked for civility are the first to fling poo.
April, is that you?
Nick understands the context too Meth. He is not a pussy and can take a few shots. As can I. So no harm no foul.
That is why I don't make fun of his thinning hair. You need to be sensitive you know what I mean?
Meth, asks for civility with a mouthful of shit. Stinks to high heaven. Darcy, don't you smell it yet?
Meade said...
Lem is not the problem. Never was.
April 13, 2016 at 6:20 PM
Blogger Milly Vanilli said...
Oh my. The ones who asked for civility are the first to fling poo.
Yeah, I see how this goes right? My plea to my fellow Lemmer's did not include you two. I think that should seem self evident.
But you were the main commenter who complained to Lem about me, right, Methadras?
"Pussycat pussycat, where have you been?"
"I've been up to London to visit the Queen."
"Pussycat pussycat, what did you there?"
"I frightened a little mouse under his chair"
"MEOWW!"
Milly Vanilli said...
Lem is bowled over by Trooper, by Sixty, by Meth, by the rest of the agressive commenters. Lem needs to grow a pair and not allow these people to dictate to him. It's your blog Lem, take responsibility for the tone and tenor of it. People here claim they left Athouse because of the tone, then they bring it here and amplify it 10 fold.
Lem is his own man, but I freely admit that I asked him to basically tell the passive aggressive eunuch bird to shove off. He isn't wanted here nor welcome. I can't control whenever the dog renter wants to show up and take a giant dump. Then you pop up out of nowhere knowing things with an imperious tone trying to cow people kind of narrows the field on who you are.
Lem handles himself just fine. He knows he is the boss of this blog. What he says goes. As it has from the beginning.
What is clear is what a promise from Meade is worth. People came here to get away from him and his wife. He can't accept that. He has to come back with his friend to stir things up. It happens periodically.
I would suggest that other thread keepers delete him the way I do. This way we do not have to rely on his word.
Meade said...
But you were the main commenter who complained to Lem about me, right, Methadras?
I can only speak for myself in that I talked to Lem about you and no one else. We had a two or three email exchange about the topic and that was it. I never told him to do anything, I suggested that it was high time he told you off for the sake of the blog because you contribute absolutely nothing here other than your typical divisive passive aggressive snark.
Trooper York said...
"People came here to get away from him and his wife."
Speak for yourself, liar.
"I would suggest that other thread keepers delete him the way I do. This way we do not have to rely on his word."
Says Trooper York, once again attempting to control a blog that isn't even his.
Milly Vanilli said...
Meth, asks for civility with a mouthful of shit. Stinks to high heaven. Darcy, don't you smell it yet?
That I'd spit right back in your face, phony.
As guilty as I am to run the gauntlet of flaming the retards that inhabit this blog and now with a new addition to the mix, now you see what happens when fools enter the mix, throw down their demands of wanting to be ignored as long as you don't engage and they just can't help themselves can they. It's like Tourrets with them. They try to hold it back, but then they just blather it all out.
And why Milly is asking for Darcy's approval is bizarre.
I am speaking for myself buddy. That is why I delete you. I do not want to control this blog and have told Lem that. If Lem and chickie want you to comment on there threads that is fine with me. I did not request your banishment. I wished for it. Actually I wished for your painful death by ball cancer but I digress.
I only want to control my threads where I have repeatedly told you that you are not welcome. But you persisted in commenting to foment discord. Which you always do. Just as you and your sockpuppet are doing in this thread.
I don't want you and your wife in my life. If I never have to see or think about you again I would be a very happy camper. So why not take yes for an answer. I did not try to post over there until you came into my threads to start trouble. I have no desire to go over there and will not if you can abide by your commitment.
Cat shit really stinks.
The wonderful Trooper wishes death upon another commenter, be careful Trooper, fate may be listening and decide to bless you instead.
The taunting from the newest troll is a real tell.
Smelly sock continues to stink up the joint.
No, Inga, (the 'oi' may have been a tell)
They left because of Althouse's flounce in...what was it....2012? A flimsy, fake, free speech comment policy, shepherded poorly. Then, the shitty public treatment of Palladian (of which I have screencaps) Then, coming the heavy here and swinging his cosh for YEARS.
Meade, I have boycotted your wife's site until you withdrew from here. However, I can revert. The good students' apple for teacher comment style is turn off enough.
Rabel's recent comment re: 'Althousian move' was civil criticism, surely not rude enough to summon the Glottal Stopper himself?(your avatar looks like the inflamed uvula of someone in a perpetual state of screaming, So apt)
Who do you think you are, Meade?
She who will not be mentioned. I figured it was her, but she's all but confirmed it. They can never go away, can they. Too much paranoia and toxoplasmosis.
Good ol' Inga - man, she is just like herpes. You think she is gone, then bam, she flares right back up.
But I do feel sorry for her - you know her father died in a concentration camp in Germany. Fell out of the guard tower. Sad story.
Someone told me she was over at the other place posting under the name Amanda. They said you could see her tells. Just as you can see them here in this thread.
What is going on?
Please Keep it Civil is not happening?
Gotta blame it on something
It's too much to digest right now. I was just doing my walk and I'm too tired.
What I'm going to do is I'm going to close the comments on this post and hopefully everybody will take a deep breath and try to stay on topic.
Thanks.
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