NY Times: Speaker Paul D. Ryan, chairman of the Republican National Convention, recent vice-presidential candidate and the highest elected Republican in the country, has one goal for this year: to form a conservative policy agenda for the Republican presidential nominee to embrace.
If that nominee is Donald J. Trump, that may be a waste of time.
Panicked Republicans question whether Mr. Trump will be able to unite a Republican-controlled Congress that would normally be expected to promote and promulgate his agenda, an internal crisis nearly unheard-of in a generation of American politics. On nearly every significant issue, Mr. Trump stands in opposition to Republican orthodoxy and his party’s policy prescriptions — the very ideas that Mr. Ryan has done more than anyone else to form, refine or promote over the last decade.
“You’re hitting on a very big problem, which is that Trump is not a Republican,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican who dropped out of the race for the White House in December “I have no idea how we reconcile a Donald Trump agenda with a Republican agenda. How do we write a platform?”
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First of all, Graham, describe a Republican agenda.
Concern trolling by the Gray Lady based on remarks of people who haven't acted like Republicans in some time.
Somehow, I think what really scares them is the fear of being ousted in the current political climate.
Trump will run to the left of Paul Ryan. (let that sink in)
Trump agrees that Ryan wants to push granny off a cliff.
Trump wants price controls on drugs to the tune of 300 billion. (which happens to be the entire budget of all drugs companies.) I guess Donald Trump doesn't mind if Drug companies pay for all the R&D, but never make a profit again. No worries- Tax payers can pay the drug companies. wow - what a great idea!
How do we write a platform?
Build the scaffold high.
I hope so.
Boy, howdy! Do I ever hope so.
↑ This is a Western colloquialism. I'm fitting in over here. Shut up, I said I'm fitting in. When we moved to Shreveport I said, "y'all" so fluidly you'd think I was born there. To fit in.
Know what else is on a collision course? Me and every single group of @ssholes that springs up around whatever interest I focus my attention.
Name an interest, any interest of pursuit, and a group will form around it, at least one, and that group will start out nice and sweet and eventually be given over to @ssholes.
Must you be an @sshole to be part of your elite photography club?
The man has a simple question, as I do. Our simple question matches.
Three pages of answers and not a single straightforward reply. Each one asks more questions than it offers solutions. The comments are 50% unhelpful in motive. The motive for responding was not helpful. The questions are not helpful. More answers demanded than questions answered. The entire thread is impossible. Altogether you'd have to conclude all photographers are natural born @ssholes.
The very simple answer is: This is a known thing with this model. Most people adjust their exposure settings down two notches.
Simple as eating pie.
Yet they twist themselves in knots by not answering.
* How do you know they're overexposed?
* what do you mean by the playback screen? (It's blinking black and white in overexposed areas. The whole thing is blinking, it's entirely overexposed. All Nikon photographers will know this. Yet the answerer asks as if the questioner is supplying insufficient information. Just answer the f'n question, how does he remedy overexposure on automatic?)
* take a D40 and compare. (F you. You should know that is not helpful advice. )
* does it happen with other lenses?
And on and on and on. I felt sorry for the guy asking the question, the hopeless string of worthless hostile stupid answers telling him his answer is elsewhere will make anyone regret taking up photography.
I do believe this is a specifically Nikon thing. Nikon owners apparently are @ssholes.
Hang gliding is the one hobby not like this. Every person I encountered was charming. Far more charming, far more my type, our vibes match up perfectly whereas airplane pilots vibes do not. Why? One type, okay this is weird and you may reject it, one type flies like a bird, and the other flies armored and protected, more harshly faster higher more technology. The other far closer to being a bird.
Didn't you ever stretch your arms and pretend to fly around? No? What's wrong with you? The slopes are where you meet your kindred spirits.
I guess Donald Trump doesn't mind if Drug companies pay for all the R&D, but never make a profit again.
Drug companies will survive via H-1B visas. They're already doing it.
April, They don't care about anything, absolutely nothing is important except winning with Trump. The truth doesn't matter about who he is, what he believes, or what he's done. They imagine what they want and stick it on him. If it doesn't fit, then they don't need it.
Only 9% of the Superpac attack money has been spent going after Trump. Most has been directed at Rubio so far. That will shift at some point, and Trump likely has lots of embarrassing stuff with his taxes and past cons like Trump University, and just plain bad deals, bad management, and corporate shenanigans amounting to legal theft. That will be exposed in the coming months showing a man that Trumpers would have had all kinds of disdain and revulsion for any other time, but none of it will matter. They are voting for an idea they already created, and even the real Trump can't be allowed to mess it up.
Even normal people don't care about the party platform. Trumpers sure as hell don't.
It's the imagining!~~dreaming part that mystifies me.
Bags - I get the "blow it up part" ----- I do not understand the "Lets blow it up with a populist liberal" part.
There are 2 crony capitalists in this election cycle: Hillary and Donald.
O.T.
I assume a President can be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors even if they happened before they were elected. I'm not thinking of Trump here, but Hillary. We all know she's guilty, but if elected, only impeachment could make her pay for it, and she gets more guilty every day.
Quit dreaming. You'll never impeach a Democrat president.
I think it would be great to have a Bernie Sanders - Ted Cruz showdown. A real line between the ideologies.
Hillary and Trump? - Practically the same two people.
The hack nexus of ABC, CBS and NBC will continue to ignore Hillary's corruption and pimp her, while the negative press avalanche against Trump will be big. YUGE.
As we know, the pro-D press would subject ANY GOP candidate to an avalanche of negative spin, but Trump is target rich.
"Bags - I get the "blow it up part"
Yea, me too. I'm on board for big changes, and I hate the establishment as much as anyone, and I really want a nonpolitician, especially a business person, but it doesn't make me want just anybody. There are things worse than the establishment, and I bet most here depend more on what the establishment protects than I do. The establishment mostly robs me and props up my competition, but there is a nation at stake here - the most amazing one ever created, and it should not be played with like a game of Sim City. You don't just reboot the whole thing after you fuck it up.
People like Troop imagine that Donald will do the right things because he wants to look good, and there is a lot to that, but only if a man is capable, smart, and disciplined. Trump has a long record of blowing things up, and leaving the ruins for those who trusted him or his bullshit. Just check him out. He's not a revolutionary. He's a self-interested, dishonest, and rather poor businessman with many more failures than other billionaires who started with less, and calling his past blow ups failures is being generous.
If anyone can deflect bullets from a pro-D press, it's Trump. Next question.
Donald's mandate will be so huge come November that the establishment GOP twerps better damn well get behind his rollback of their NWO agenda. If they know what's good for them. But since they don't know what's good for them expect foot dragging.
Trump schtick is gonna wear thin pretty quick when you start wanting answers from him too. You will want answers, won't you?
The Press and Donald are on the same side on most issues. It's gonna be Trump, the press, and the left against us. All moving the nation left. Pretty much like the current situation.
On nearly every significant issue, Mr. Trump stands in opposition to Republican orthodoxy and his party’s policy prescriptions — the very ideas that Mr. Ryan has done more than anyone else to form, refine or promote over the last decade.
Yes. Exactly!!!! and they, the GOPe, STILL can't figure out what the Trump appeal is to the pissed off voters. Now, they want to double down on stupid and impose a set of "conservative" principles and policies. The same ones that we thought we elected them to accomplish and they refused to even try. How stupid to they think we are?
Is Trump supposed to sign yet another promissory note? One that the other side is guaranteed to not honor like the promise to support the candidate of the voters? The one they forced Trump to sign and then immediately set the GOP establishment attack dog upon him.
Right. The losers in Congress, who have the lowest approval record ever.....loan sharks with knee breaking baseball bats are more popular.....want to continue to force their losing agenda down our throats. They'll make another platform full of the same old lame old promises that they are guaranteed to ignore.
Stupid is as stupid does. They have no ability to see what is really happening around them, to learn from their mistakes, and continue to trudge blindly ahead into the abyss. That's why people want to follow Trump into another direction.
Everyone who dislikes Trump says he is a liar....Well at least he would be a NEW one instead of the same old ones we elected the last few times.
"Trump schtick is gonna wear thin pretty quick when you start wanting answers from him too. You will want answers, won't you?"
All the answers are in there (pointing to Trump's hair).
— The Second Epistle to the Trumpians (2 Trumpians)
"Hang gliding is the one hobby not like this. Every person I encountered was charming. Far more charming, far more my type, our vibes match up perfectly whereas airplane pilots vibes do not. Why? One type, okay this is weird and you may reject it, one type flies like a bird, and the other flies armored and protected, more harshly faster higher more technology. The other far closer to being a bird."
I'm both kinds of pilots, and you're absolutely right. Hang gliding IS essentially flying like a bird. You do it exactly the same way. An airplane is more like driving a car on the verge of losing a wheel. You are constantly concerned about the machine failing you.
"Everyone who dislikes Trump says he is a liar...."
Everyone? I don't.
Politicians give answers to questions all of the time, and have been since the beginning of time. That doesn't mean that they'll do what they said they'd do after they are elected. Again, it's always been like that. Why only single out Trump?
"NYT: Trump relying heavily on foreign-worker visas to staff Florida resort"
"Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired.
In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries. …
But he has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same jobs."
This stuff is not one of my big issues, and it's not illegal, but let me coin Bag's Law: "Trumpers don't really care about what they say they do when it comes to that one man."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/02/25/donald-trump-supporters-brexit-preference-falsfication-2016-primaries-column/80856410/
"NYT: Trump relying heavily on foreign-worker visas to staff Florida resort"
Really?
Donald Trump, just like Warren Buffet is an owner of many enterprises. Most of which are likely separate corporations, LLCs, trusts and other legal entities. Does anyone really think that Trump doesn't have an army of CEOs, CFOs, HR departments and hundreds of administrative staff to handle the mundane day to day running of each of these enterprises.
Does anyone think that Trump is personally interviewing, hiring and managing the day to day operations of each and every one of his domains? Trump is deciding who gets hired as a waitress or waiter or janitor. Really? Unlike a one man business, like some who comment here have, Trump's business interests are YUGE! So, if a golf course or other enterprise is hiring foreign workers, then it is that administrative HR department responsible for hiring.
Of course, as the top dog and ultimate CEO of the organization, Trump does take the responsibility for what his underlings are doing. Just like a famous President once said "The buck stops here." If he is aware of what they are doing then he could, if he wanted, issue a directive. However, since hiring legal foreign workers is NOT a crime and is actually encouraged by the Federal Government and by economic realities, I would imagine that he leaves these decisions up to the individual CEOs of each enterprise.
If someone has proof that Donald Trump personally is hiring people at Mar-a-Lago, that would be interesting to know.
No sympathy whatsoever for the hapless, rejected GOPe and it's sudden, unexpected inability to coordinate agendas with the leading Republican presidential candidate. You're outta luck my poor unfaithful baby. They'd be doing the exact same thing if it was Cruz in the lead. Now the question will be who coopts who.
BTW, is the "smart" money still on Hill? I'm interested in where the "smart" money is located. There was a ton of "smart" money flushed down the drain in the GOP primary and some that is still circling the bowl.
DBQ, Those businesses would not be hiring foreigners over locals if Trump cared about it. He could simply send out a memo saying stop it. A situation where he has more power over the problem than he would as President. It's the primary issue for most Trump supporters, and he doesn't care about it, and in fact, is the problem himself. But if you only care about defending Trump on absolutely everything then lets pretend he can fix that issue across the whole nation, or even sillier that he actually cares to. People are going to vote for him thinking he does. Just one of many issue where Trumpers have no idea who they are supporting, nor do they care. Trumps fan's defense of his record is going to get very tough soon. I expect all lot more of "I just don't care. Go Trump!"
Those businesses would not be hiring foreigners over locals if Trump cared about it. He could simply send out a memo saying stop it.
I do believe I said that :-)
Amartel, I think the smart money is still trying to recover from making the Carolina Panthers 6 point favorites.
One point going forward is how often the "experts" have been wrong so far.
Hillary's not getting the women's vote, it looks like almost anybody with R after their name can beat her, Cruz isn't the wunderkind he was cracked up to be, and Trump continues to exceed expectations (which, granted, were never that high, but he's still looking better than anybody else).
As I say, this election is going to be event-driven and a lot of crow will be on the menu before it's all over.
The GOP platform is basically nothing more than an ironing board for them to lay flat on so that Obama can work their wrinkles out.
New poll - 72% of likely Florida voters in Republican primary don't support favorite son Marco Rubio for President.
pdf file
Q-pac is not noted for accuracy, but apparently the other polls show a similar bump.
All of this will be tested in the next couple of weeks.
Be interesting if the 2 first termers overestimated their appeal.
Methadras said...
The GOP platform is basically nothing more than an ironing board for them to lay flat on so that Obama can work their wrinkles out.
That cuts both ways, of course, but Pissy will be out of our lives as of January.
I think the fact that Trump uses people on HiB visas is definitely wrong and a problem for him. Although he might not be involved in the day to day process there is no doubt that he approves the hiring of Legal temporary workers. But it is just as bad as Disney or any other company that uses foreigners instead of Americans. So now we have to see what he does. If he fires these workers and mandates that his resorts only hire native born Americans than I would be very happy.
What you do when you pick a candidate you have to look at the totality of his program. I like Trumps program. I despise Rubio as a hired Rent Boy who will do the bidding of the special interests. He is a whore pure and simple. Cruz can simply not get elected dogcatcher. You are fooling yourself if you think he has a chance. The rest of the vaunted field dropped out because they couldn't get enough support to last through the first few primaries.
You go to war with the Army that you have. Not some imaginary Army that you built up in your head. Trump mobilizes a coalition that far surpasses anything available to the other Republican candidates.
He is definitely not a conservative. He definitely has some liberal tendencies. Positions that I don't agree with. But he if first and foremost an American. If he doesn't clean up this situation he has a problem. He needs to fire all of these foreigners and replace them with native born Americans. Of course we have to see if employment anti-discrimination laws allow that. I want to see his response.
I think he has to be able to hire and fire as he pleases. If he wants to use foreign born workers he has to justify them.
I can think of a couple of justifications.
They might all be Melania's relatives. It's no sin to get your relatives a job. The is the whole rationale of both the Bush and Clinton campaigns.
It is perfectly valid to call Trump a hypocrite for not hiring Americans. It is certainly a valid complaint. Lets hear his explanation if he has one.
The one thing I notice about bags and April all of the Trump haters is that they spend all of their time smashing Trump. Not two seconds touting the accomplishments and programs of their favorites. You know. Rubio ability at getting votes as evidence by his continually second and third place finishes. Or Cruz's vaunted ability to work with his colleagues and get his conservative principles enacted into law. Let's hear more about that.
I know, I mean how much does Trooper have to trumpet Trump's terrific trumpiness before it finally sinks in and starts appealing to bag and aprils better angels? When will they GET IT?
The supporters of the other candidates don't trumpet the accomplishments of their candidates is that they don't have real accomplishments to point to. They never built anything. They were never in the market place. Winning and losing. They are lawyers and politicians. Leeches. You will recognize the type.
It's time for a change. A big change. That is what Trump will bring. For good or ill. On balance I think it will be far more good than ill.
None of the stuff you sell is made in Sri Lanka, China, Indonesia, right? All sweatshop-free, I'm sure.
I've said what I appreciate about Cruz a few times, but there is not much record or experience to tout, and the same with Rubio. But for the little record they have, they have both been more conservative than the vast majority of Republicans (the establishment) and especially Cruz. He has shown that he stands for principles of The Constitution better than any member, and that he doesn't give in easily, even under pressure. Still he is much less experienced than what I want. The reason I attack Trump is not because the others are great, but because Trump is so bad, and the front runner. I don't attack Kasich either, but I don't see much point in talking about him at all.
Trump is near the bottom of my list just above Bernie, and he's winning. What do you expect from me? I'm not a bandwagon groupie like Ritmo.
I don't expect anything from you bags. I get that you are invested in the status quo.
I know that you know how hard it is to purchase American. To manufacture in America. As a matter of fact I manufacture my goods in Brooklyn and California. I actually check the I-9's of the factory I use. I lose money by not buying cheap shit from China. But I am willing to do that to support American companies. I do buy certain things from the UK, France and Canada as well. But nothing made in sweatshops overseas. Ever.
We recently went to Macy's to see what our competition was doing. They had cheap garments made in China reduced down to nothing. One sweater had be marked down from $179 to $11. $11. You can't compete with that. Of course if Trump comes in and slaps a tariff on that sweater to keep that price at around $50.....well then I can compete. Easily. A whole lot of American Companies can compete. With cheap energy from fracking and drilling in America we can turn the economy around.
I think we've gone off the track here.
Trump isn't importing anybody nor is he hiring illegals. He (more likely the HR for the resort) is hiring people who will work cheap so he can make a better profit.
And, if you look at the facts, we're talking between 80 and 100 jobs a year, not 500 or 1000 a year. He says there's an issue of who's qualified, so somebody ought to check that out - for all I know they're hiring people from Royal Caribbean who want a little time on dry land.
You want to throw a fit over it, go ahead.
But you need to know this has been around since last July
Who cares if "bag and aprils better angels" GET IT? Not me. They're both adults with their own voices and opinions, and they've consistently enlivened this blog with their presence and voices since the day it opened as a place for comments to find a home after Althouse barred the door and set up a gatekeeper.
Do I enjoy hearing Trooper York roll out a clear, straightforward and well written opinion, devoid of blather, such as the one at expressed at 3:06. Indeed I do. It a represents another "good faith" contribution to Levity.
As for ChipA's ruminations on differences between camera people and those who soar, the word associations that come up for camera may help to identify part of the difference in focus with word/ideas like expose, shutter, record, film, lens, strap, reveal, point and shoot, and fish-eye being part of set-up.
Currently only about 30% of all goods imported are subject to a tariff. The imposition of tariffs are at an all time low. Through out American History high tariffs were associated with the Republican party and used to stimulate the growth of domestic manufacturing. A trade and tax policy that would end corporate inversion by making America a tax haven will impose a tariff on foreign goods would be a huge boon to our economy and provide jobs to millions of American workers. Our tax dollars could go to industry to build factories and create jobs. Millions of Americans could find honest work and the dignity of having a successful life as we did before gobalization destroyed everything.
It will be tough. I mean you will have to forgo Chinese drywall made out of lead or Parmesan cheese diluted by wood shavings but in time our domestic production will easily supply our needs. All of those "low education" people can get good jobs. That is a populist program that many Americans can get behind.
The Republican party can be the party of the working man. We already match up with them on conservative social values that most of the working class hold in their hearts. If we can get them a better deal economically there will be no stopping us.
After the Civil War the Republican party had the black vote in every election up until FDR. Then the black vote turned almost unanimously to the Democrats and has remained so ever since. So voting blocks do not always stay tied to one party. If you appeal to their interests you can wedge them away. We can appeal not by giving free stuff but giving people a chance to get a job and not be aced out by some foreigner either at home or abroad.
Similarity we can change our foreign policy that puts America first. With all that implies. We don't need the pundits and the conservative intelligentsia to lead us into foreign entanglements. No more endless wars. Give the Kurds and Israeli's and the people that want to fight for their freedom all the supplies they need. But the rest of them? The Turks who stabbed us in the back? The Saudi's who supplied the money and the terrorists who pulled of 911? The rest of the Arab scum? Fuck them. Let em rot.
Oh my, I just listened to the former Mexican president vehemently declaring that "I’m not going to pay for that fucking wall!"
When the pot's been stirred to the point where Meade feels the need to run over and attempt to control a thread, and the ex MEx pres is making a public "I" statement complete with with the ****word about what he will and won't pay for, something major is underway or transpiring.
And the customers don't value it. They just want the cheapest price. You can advertise that your goods are made in America and that is important to about 2 in 10 people. Not millennials or liberals thats for fucking sure. Only the working class who know that it is American jobs that they are supporting are the only ones who give a rats ass about where things are made.
No need to over-explain or to act defensive. Is there?
Trooper York said...
The Republican party can be the party of the working man. We already match up with them on conservative social values that most of the working class hold in their hearts. If we can get them a better deal economically there will be no stopping us.
After the Civil War the Republican party had the black vote in every election up until FDR. Then the black vote turned almost unanimously to the Democrats and has remained so ever since
Actually, the black vote still went Republican until the Great Society offered them a life on welfare and the Lefties told them to be free, black, and angry - but not at the Democrats.
That's the origin of the LBJ line, "Ah'll have them ni-s voting Democrat for the net 200 years".
MamaM said...
Oh my, I just listened to the former Mexican president vehemently declaring that "I’m not going to pay for that fucking wall!"
The word "former" is important. Mexico is in the place Colombia was in the 80s and an American President who put his foot down would turn the country inside out.
Mexico depends on that money all those illegals send home. If that stops, the ruling class is in trouble.
If there's a wall, it's in trouble.
Cranking up Operation Wetback II would be a real problem Down Mexico Way, so pressure could be brought to bear to convince the dons to seriously stem the tide of illegals - or else it gets shut off completely.
Trump fans - You'll like this!
Opinion
Why Trump might be the best Republican to take on Hillary
Some thoughts: Why won't the GOP and the right-ish media go after Paul Krugman. Hillary has stated outright that she respects and holds Paul Krugman's asinine economic theories in high regard. She also holds up Barney Frank as her example of good economic sense.
THIS IS MADE FOR MOCKING. MERCILESS MOCKING. Paul Krugman should be mocked until he cries. He's a rat bastard, a phony, and a vile economic moron. Everyone should say so, and often.
...even Trump will be taken aback by the venom that’s about to come his way. It’ll make the primary look like a knitting circle, and Megyn Kelly seem as sweet as Melania.
I hope he's ready.
? missing. go ahead and use one.
The black vote did turn on the Great Society but that was because the Democrats were the racist party. Once Johnson passed the civil rights act they betrayed the Republicans who voted for them all of those years for the free stuff that the Democrats gave them.
I think if we appeal to their desire to get jobs and live a good life when can cut off big slices of that demographic.
I would tend to agree with you.
Part of what's happening with the Trump phenomena is the revealing of live undercurrents that have previously been covered with political correctness and pretence.
"I’d like to know who those Hispanics are, because they are followers of a false prophet," Fox said. "He’s going to take them to the desert...
He'd like to know! And what good would that do? What's being said is so clear, it makes me want to laugh, except for the fact that ferreting out those who disagree or stand in the way of the local reigning authority or ruling drug cartel and taking them out to the desert has been a way of life and possible fate that's prompted many to leave home and country to become illegal immigrants
FWIW, here's the article MamaM mentioned, with Vicente Fox (POEUDM 2000 - '06) talking about a wall.
"I'd like to know who those Hispanics are, because they are followers of a false prophet," he said. "[Trump's] going to take them to the desert, and if they think that they will benefit with an administration led by Donald Trump, they're wrong. They must open their eyes."
"Please, you Hispanics in the U.S., open your eyes," he pleaded.
Sounds like he's scared.
"....cut off big slices...."
Dere dey go, talkin' 'bout cuttin' on us agin. Feets don' fail me now!
"Actually, the black vote still went Republican until the Great Society offered them a life on welfare and the Lefties told them to be free, black, and angry - but not at the Democrats."
Not if you're talking about the Presidential election. The Republicans never got a majority of the black vote in any election after 1928. The last time it was even close was 1956 when Ike got 44% of the Black vote. However, by 1960 it was down to 33% and its not gone above that.
Trump is going to beat those numbers. Watch and see.
The brothers want to be Trump. They ain't gonna vote for the white lady.
What I hear is a spinning and attempt to explain away what would completely disqualify anybody else. Can you imagine the cacophony in here if it turned out that Rubio was importing workers rather than hiring local. Imagine how not a single explanation would be offered in his defense, and any minimizing of it from Rubio or anyone else would be attacked as being bullshit, and proof of how he can't be trusted, which would be true.
When a Democrat's hypocrisy or other shit gets swept under the rug by Dems we always say that "A Republican would never be allowed to get away with that." With Trump, I have to say that no other human would be allowed to get away with that.
Like I said, immigration is not my hot issue, but I thought it was yours. I guess that depends.
Immigration means controlling the flow of people into this country, according to the law, and sending home the ones who are here illegally.
I don't hear anybody but Trump addressing that. If you want to get into the rights and wrongs of hiring people with H1 visas, that's a somewhat separate issue, unless you're talking mass importation the way Cruz was.
From what I've read (which is damned little), what Trump did was both legal and moderate - less than 100 jobs a year. More data and a chance for the Trump organization to explain itself is what's needed. We all know the Lefties will try to present this as damningly as possible.
rcocean said...
Actually, the black vote still went Republican until the Great Society offered them a life on welfare and the Lefties told them to be free, black, and angry - but not at the Democrats.
Not if you're talking about the Presidential election. The Republicans never got a majority of the black vote in any election after 1928. The last time it was even close was 1956 when Ike got 44% of the Black vote. However, by 1960 it was down to 33% and its not gone above that.
Still, it was a lot better than the 2% or so it is now.
Off Drudge, the best reason to vote for Trump.
Al Sharpton says he's outta here if Trump is elected.
This foreign workers thing in Florida is just one of lots of such cases including hiring illegals and paying a settlement of $1 million for hiring illegals in N.Y. to avoid what was likely to be $4 million if he lost in court. I know, I know. Nobody cares or whatever. His history is full of stuff most people would be ashamed to have in a friend or relative.
Just look at the man's history if you dare. It is ugly, unhinged, and I bet he has violated the ethics of every single supporter here at one time or another in a big way. NTTIATWWT.
There are real and serious reasons why so many people are against Trump being President. I know that will be blamed on people being afraid of his great reforms to the system, and the naysayers losing something, which is what they said about people against Obama, and every other candidate who ever ran from the outside. The truth of the matter is that most us just think he is an unethical, rude, and unprincipled man who will embarrass the nation even more than those fools before him hired on emotion alone. We expect with good reason that he will do stupid impulsive things with terrible consequences. Why is that so hard to accept. Not everybody feels a need to make a savior out of the first guy who talks back to the media. It's not really very amazing for someone outside of politics to do that. It's only amazing that it is working so well as a substitute for substance.
bagoh20 said...
This foreign workers thing in Florida is just one of lots of such cases including hiring illegals
Even the Times says this isn't about illegals. Even Morrissey, who hates Trump, concedes that.
You don't like the guy, fine. You say there are good reasons against him being President, I might even agree with some of them - unlike a lot of people, I really trust nobody, and I rarely, if ever, believe in politicians. That's your right if you want to, but you're doing what the Cruzzers have been doing all along - making statements that just aren't backed up by the facts.
What's worse, all the things the Cruzzers accuse the Trump people of doing, they do themselves. No inconsistency in the record of the One True Ted is true. It's nuanced or it was a poison pill or something.
The Cruzzers are every bit as willing to go with somebody who "is an unethical, rude, and unprincipled man who will embarrass the nation even more than those fools before him hired on emotion alone."
Why is it so hard to accept a lot of people feel the same way about Cruz? Because he's proclaimed himself (or his acolytes have) the Only True Conservative? Some of us have found more than a few holes in his brand of Conservatism.
YMMV
"Even the Times says this isn't about illegals. Even Morrissey, who hates Trump, concedes that."
The one in Florida may not have, but in New York it did include illegals. He didn't just do this one time. Which is the point. I thought such a thing was a terrible thing around here, but not if Trump does it.
Ed, I'm not a "Cruzzer". I don't support him unquestioned and try to explain away every single negative. I've even pointed them out myself, but your contention that Cruz has the same kind of record is just silly. Nobody is saying such things about Cruz, and there just is no such record. Trump supported at one time or another everything and everybody you were against, and still does with many issues. You need to reconcile that with yourself. I have no such need for such gymnastics with Cruz.
Never said he had the same kind of record, just that there are plenty of inconsistencies in his stands.
As for Trump supporting different things at different times, you can say the same about Reagan.
If Trump has changed his mind on some things, I think that's a lot better than somebody like Bernie sanders who hasn't questioned his beliefs of the efficacy of his agenda in 50 years.
And Cruz' votes on things like TPP, H1-Bs, Gang of 8, and Omnibus spending say to me you're doing the same gymnastics you accuse the Trump people of doing.
"And Cruz' votes on things like TPP, H1-Bs, Gang of 8, and Omnibus spending say to me you're doing the same gymnastics you accuse the Trump people of doing."
I'm not one of those who is all upset about those issues, so no gymnatics required for me. There are reasonable arguments on both side of them, and he has a better record on those issues than Trump anyway.
I care about the country being run legally according to the Constitution, and keeping it out of our lives as much as possible. I don't want another overreaching President who never even bothers to discuss such things. I certainly don't want someone with a long history of doing whatever he can get away with, and still failing big and often. I don't want a President like that. He only promises to be MY authoritarian, and I don't want mine or anybody else's in the job. Those principles eliminate Hillary, Bernie, and Donald. Cruz is simply the best on the concept of what the job really is, it's limits, and it's purpose. He seems to want the job, more than the power, and he respects the same things I do, more than the rest of them do. I don't see him disappointing me, embarrassing me, or doing things opposite of my principles. He's always had the same ones.
Bags wrote: Can you imagine the cacophony in here if it turned out that Rubio was importing workers rather than hiring local. Imagine how not a single explanation would be offered in his defense, and any minimizing of it from Rubio or anyone else would be attacked as being bullshit, and proof of how he can't be trusted, which would be true.
As I wrote in a previous thread, there is a difference between importing low-skilled illegal workers and highly skilled legal ones (e.g. Ph.D's). This is two pronged attack with D's supporting the low-end phalanx and R's marshalling the higher end one. Only Rubio and Cruz are associated with the greater Republican plan to undermine native American talent.
Only Rubio and Cruz are associated with the greater Republican plan to undermine native American talent.
I'm talking masters and Ph.D. level scientific talent.
Ed, I'm not a "Cruzzer"
You're sort of a white Crack EmCee then. He never supported anyone either. It was just all Romney this and Romney that.
I don't really know much about the IT workforce but my understanding is that they were hit hard too.
I don't really know much about the IT workforce but my understanding is that they were hit hard too.
It could be a case of the Indians screwing over the native Americans if you can believe it.
"I'm talking masters and Ph.D. level scientific talent."
Oh, now I get it. It's not about illegal immigration or bringing them here like slaves and not even paying them - which is what Trump did, it's actually only about the well-educated, and skilled ones. We don't really care about the poor, unskilled or trade level Americans who build our homes and unclog our toilets who are pushed aside with absolutely no other options to survive. We only expect Trump to protect the lucky ones who already have many advantages.
Do you really think Trump hasn't hired highly skilled immigrants to save money? The whitewashing of this man is endless. I expect that soon we will be down to preferring Trump just because he's the one with the most interesting hair.
#ALLHAIRNOCATTLE
Do you really think Trump hasn't hired highly skilled immigrants to save money? The whitewashing of this man is endless. I expect that soon we will be down to preferring Trump just because he's the one with the most interesting hair.
I'm specifically referring to Cruz. Bags. And BTW, Rubio has earned Jeff Session's "un-endorsement."
And BTW, did Apple come off looking bad or what?
Tim Cook is going to play Tim Gunn for Hillary Klum to the mat.
#DUMPTRUMP
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