The continual attack on celebrity idiot Donald Trump is getting harder and harder to take. The Rhinos are charging and trying to gore him and anyone who gets in their way. Don't they get that Trump is not the issue. It is the people he resonates with and who support him even though he is rug wearing pompous New York asshole?
The latest pansy ass pajama boy who is losing his shit is faux conservative Kevin D. Williamson of the NRO blog who wrote a new screed entitled "Donald Trump: All Bluster and Babbitt." It seems that the people who support and enjoy Trump offend his elitist refined tastes. I mean he went to some big time school and is a big shit intellectual.
Did he even read Babbitt? Does he know what the story is about? That it was written by a hard line socialist/communist who wanted to mock and belittle the values of the boring middle class of America. You know. The people who go to church. Who work and pay their bills. Who have traditional values. You know. Republicans.
So he is saying that Donald Trump is too Babbitty? Too much of a middle class boring traditional guy? What a freaking moron. Trump is a three time married profligate spending bankrupt douche nozzle. He is not what people are responding to in droves. It is what he is saying. It is telling it like it is about the criminal element in the immigration debate. That of course he paid off the Clinton machine because that is the price of doing business in this era of crony capitalism. That you don't need to be politically correct. That you don't need to be a ball less wonder like Mitch McConnell and the Unspeakable Speaker. That you need to say what you mean and not worry if you are offending the delicate sensibilities of people who would never vote for a Republican anyway anyhow.
These douchenozzles like Williamson and Jonah Goldberg don't understand that they are making Trumps case for him. That when they knock Babbitt they mock Republicans. If they disgust them so much why don't they go over to the metro-sexual Democrats where they will feel more comfortable. I am sure they have some spare pajamas and a cup of tea for them.
Sheeesssshhh!!!!!
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National Review ain't what it used to be.
Doesn't it seem like Trump hates the GOP - all of it, even republicans and his very own supporters? It does to me.
Trump is a douche nozzle, but only because he WILL run 3rd party and hand it to Hillary, the plan (D) from the get-go.
Trump's tough talk on illegal immigration is an act. I no longer buy it, and I'm saying so honestly as a person who wants to hear REAL tough, honest talk about stopping the flood of illegal immigration.
I agree with Williamson. Not sure how pointing out Trump's past and present flip-flopping, hyper-political hypocrisy, & past over-the-top misogyny and bluster translates to " all Repubs are stupid." ?
I note any harsh talk towards Trump is always met with - "yeah but the GOP squishes suck & I hate them and I'm never going to vote for them again."
OK - Fine. Don't vote. Vote for Trump. Knock yourselves out.
I just wonder how long it will take for Trump to say he's running as in Independent? The on-air talent at CNN and MSNBC are so excited!
(& yes, the GOP is a huge collective let down on the issue of illegal immigration.)
But Trump is not the super-hero we are looking for.
I missed the debates in real time. I've only seen bits. I watched Chris Matthews on MSNBC, and he almost jumped out of his skin with joy when they played the clip of Trump raising his hand regarding the 3rd party question.
Look who is defending Trump? Not me. He is an asshole. But Williamson and Kristol and Goldberg and the wheelchair guy and Megyn C you next Thursday are much, much worse. They are doing the Democrats work for them. In my book.
Trump will never run third party. He will never spend his own money and he would never get other people to put up theirs. He is in it for the show and for his ego. He will be out of the race soon enough.
You can hate Trump and hate the Rhinos more. The latest failure theatre with the Iran deal was the end game for me. Voting for Bush III is just the worst possible thing you can do. I don't see how you can defend that. Ever. In any way.
I agree that people are not responding to what Trump is but rather to what Trump says.
As I wrote over on that Ed Driscol post at Insty, if you kill Trump, You kill meaningful discussion of immigration and a host of other important topics. But that's what Hillary and Hillary supporters like Ritmo want: no discussion of immigration.
Why didn't Megyn Kelly ask questions about Planned Parenthood chop shops using babies for spare parts? Do you think she would ask such a question to Hillary? Fat chance.
Trump hates everybody not named Trump. We all know that. He is a vain pompous loudmouth.
Trust me. I know that type. I see one in the mirror everyday. Just sayn'
Great post. The girly men at NRO have to pretend they are the great intellectual/sophisticates so anyone they dislike has be evil or a rube. Not part of their "elite".
Gee, just like Liberals. How surprising. And dumb. What's middle-class about Trump? His father was wealthy and he went to an expensive, very elite business college. He's a freakin' Billionaire and his daughter converted to Judaism. He's more elite than anyone at NRO.
As for Sinclair Lewis - you're right on target. He was the novelist equivalent to Mencken and appealed to the same crowd. Strangely, 'Babbitt' is the only novel is his that I own. Primarily because its actually funny and because the novel is like "All in Family" you can root for Babbitt and ignore the Lewis snark.
You are not, Troop. You are hilarious and you make good points.
I think Trump's going 3rd party. I HOPE I AM WRONG.
I was on the Trump bandwagon when he first came out. I was pissed at Macy's for dropping him. The whole thing. I was loving his non-PC bluster. Now? - I strongly suspect it's all rope-a-dope for Hillary. Again - I hope I am wrong. I don't trust him.
Look at the media. They are the weather-vane. Look how excited they are at a 3rd party possibility. Hillary is not gaining... she is sinking. Her corruption and money grubbing with secret servers-for-cash is not winning people over. She needs a savior like her husband needed a Perot. In the end, none of this will matter and math will win.
did we read the same Williamson op-ed?
Chick - when Trump said something like "You're only discussing Illegal immigration because I'm here" - he was speaking the truth.
Without him, Fox news would've ignored the topic or grilled Cruz on why he hated Mexicans and didn't join every decent person and support Amnesty.
Trump hasn't said he will run 3rd party, he said he might based on how the R establishment treats him and who the nominee is.
Who can blame him? He's not a loser like most Pols. He's basically telling them you got two choices, you can have Trump inside the tent pissing out, or outside pissing in.
Just treat him with some respect and everything will be Jake. Of course, Trooper is probably right, once he gets enough PR he will blow town.
Trump needs to promise he won't. HE raised his hand and said he MIGHT run 3rd party.
He has a gun to everyone's head. 'Be nice to me or I'll hand this to Hillary.'
He can fuck right off.
Might = he will. Why? He's a Hillary supporter.
I read the same op-ed. Where Williamson expressed his contempt for the "Babbitty" Trump. Where he bloviated that being mean to Megyn Kelly is somehow disqualifying and not "gentlemanly" or some other bullshit.
The time to be a gentleman is over. The time for kissing the medias ass is over. Whether it is the mainstream jerkoffs or the Quisling conservative lap dog media. RC is right. If Trump wasn't getting pummeled they would have tried to take out the other real conservatives in the race. To prop up Jeb. They tried to trip up Cruz and Walker. They were doing the Left's work for them. They could have asked substantive questions and got substantive answers. That is not their game. It is time to blow up the game. Enough is enough.
April follow the money. Trump will not spend his money. It is all bullshit. Don't worry about him going third party. The only three way action he is going to get is with Melissa Rivers and Brande Broderick.
(You have to watch Celebrity Apprentice to understand that reference)
When Trump raise his hand and vows to do something you know he is lying. I mean he was married three times for crying out loud. Vows don't mean jackshit to this douchenozzle.
Trump was booed pretty roundly at the debate when he said he refused to promise not to run as a third-party candidate. Booing at something like that is pretty much a universal response, isn't it? And I would think especially among men, who usually prize loyalty and forthrightness very highly. So I just don't get still giving Trump so much as the time of day after that.
But apparently he raised, or helped raise, pretty darn good kids with their heads on straight. That says quite a bit about a man.
Look, the thing is that Trump is an Alpha male. Irresistible to millions. Or in simpler parlance he's a winner.
He may or may not quit the race. Frankly, having endured the full wind tunnel effect establishment attack, I doubt he'll quit. I mean he's probably determined at this point to stay in just to make all the holier-than-thous eat it.
I'll try not to worry, but I am worried and I do think Trump will run Indie for 1) his ego 2) Hillary. His pal. Weddings. Greased skids. I'll let you know when I change my mind. I like some of the things Trumps says and I agree and will always agree that our media is in a historically pathetic state.
If Trump is the bowel movement the media needs, and if his new found concern for illegal immigration and border security is real - then that is all good. I doubt it.
What if Hillary's brain acts up and she drops out and Trump no longer has someone to do crony capitalism with? Would he get more serious about it? Kind of a useless question I guess because she's much too mean to get sick or die this close to being President.
Once again follow the money. Trump will not spend his and he will not raise enough to be a credible third party candidate.
What he is right now is a lighting rod. He is taking the hits that Walker or Cruz or Rubio would get from the establishment that is trying to protect Bush. Who was a total zero at the debate and will only get worse as time goes on. So Trump serves a purpose in this process. He is a classic diversion and he is too stupid to understand it. Or more correctly he understands it and is just building his brand and celebrity. Want to bet he will get a new bigger and better reality show out of this? I bet he will.
"Trump needs to promise he won't. HE raised his hand and said he MIGHT run 3rd party.
He has a gun to everyone's head. 'Be nice to me or I'll hand this to Hillary.'
He can fuck right off."
April, I don't think anyone pulling for Trump gives a fig about whether a republican wins in 2016; or whether he's a real republican; or even whether he's a real conservative. I know I don't - and I've voted republican from 88 forward. Fact is, the republican (and conservative) establishment have, for whatever reason, done everything in their power to humiliate the base over a number of years on a number of fronts (Tea Party, H1-B's, amnesty, etc.). At least part of Trump's support is a case of the base giving the establishment a very public wedgie in return. If my reading is correct, Trump's crudity cannot undermine his support; it's the essence of that support. But this is just a symptom. The cause is that a big chunk on what used to the republican coalition has broken off and gone into something I'm inclined to call "post-conservatism" (which is what happens to a conservative when there's nothing left to conserve) that may be practically indistinguishable from political nihilism. I will be very surprised if the republican party survives more than 2 additional election cycles.
I don't think Hillary will be the nominee. I think Obama will submarine her and Clueless Joe will get the nod. It would be very simple for Obama to destroy her. And you know he will be happy to do it because he is a vindictive little shit. It is already starting with the email stuff and the possible indictment.
It will be Biden vs Walker. The Blind vs the Bland.
All this was said about Perot. The history repeating is all too real.
Troop - Hillary will be the nominee. Look at the RPC average. She's way out in front.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
Ennui hits a homer!
The G-damned inside the buttercup crowd has no idea, not the faintest, of the rage out there.....at IT.
What drives Trump's concentration on "building his brand and celebrity"? If it's just the desire for more money, then I can see him not running third party. But if it's mostly a need to be the center of attention, then I think he'd love nothing more than being in a replay of those 1992 three-way debates. I've got this horrible feeling it's the latter.
Trump gives Clinton money, support and friendship.
Clinton runs for Pres.
Clinton is looking very weak
Only sure way to win is a third party run by anyone who can pull some votes
Clinton calls Trump
Trump runs for Pres.
Trump does not get Nomination which means Clinton will lose.
Trump runs third party. He doesn't need to spend much - publicity will be thrown at him.
Clinton wins = Trump wins by electing the President for cheap, and it was fun.
Alternative: Trump gets nomination and loses because he's Trump and nobody really wants him to be the President.
Again, Clinton wins
It's so easy it's irresistible.
Thank you Bagoh. It really is that easy. I'm not sure why everyone is twisting themselves into knots not seeing the obvious.
Well, it's all been downhill since George Washington so I don't see why Trump's enormous ego is so off-putting to most here. I mean Teddy Roosevelt wasn't exactly a wilting flower and he didn't f**k up the country....too badly.
The anti-Trump viewpoint are not just establishment RINOs who want another Bush presidency. There are real conservatives in this race, people who have actual conservative accomplishments, and they're not getting attention because Trump and the media are preening for each other. This is the GOP primary and the main topic is not immigration, nor jobs and the economy, nor foreign affairs, nor the debt, nor the grossly obese, dishonest, corrupt and unaccountable bureaucracy that pretends to be competent to "govern" us. Why? Because we're all caught up in a celebrity dance off between Trump and the media. That's a valid source of frustration.
Twitted... Great post Troops
Trooper York said...
I don't think Hillary will be the nominee. I think Obama will submarine her and Clueless Joe will get the nod.
I tend to agree. That and I found the main stage "debate" to be flaccid and boring...a poor job by Fox/Facebook and their moderators...all of them. The earlier show was far better. It's early yet and when the real primary season rolls around we'll see who is who...maybe. If Michigan Repubs have another closed musical chairs show instead of a real Joe Sixpack & family voting primary, I'll lose interest. I'll vote in the election and I hope it isn't just to vote against somebody. We'll see.
To simplify the situation we are in now:
If Trump does not get out completely, the Dems will win, period.
He can't win the general. He will have most women against him, most liberals, most moderates, and many conservatives.
I'd still vote for him over Hillary, but I'm a wingnut.
This should be an easy win for Republicans, except for the Trump.
An easy win? I don't think so. Look at the 2008 election. Unless the R's get the white working class they're done for.
Nominate Jeb or anyone who can't get more white votes then Romney and the R's are done for. Shocking but true.
Hillary is no Obama. Obama isn't even an Obama now, and Obama didn't exactly win by landslide. Remember, Republicans still win most elections in this country,and the scandals of the Democrats are starting to finally wear the stupid and stubborn down. Hell, even my liberal Democrat girlfriend who once actually bit her best friend in a tantrum for voting for George W. is fed up with them. She likes Trump right now. Hillary is very weak.
"Politicians, like generals, have a tendency to fight the last war."
The Repubs have an excellent and incredibly deep bench of accomplished, smart, articulate people. We just need to avoid blowing it. The most conservative person that can win, which gives us a lot to choose from. It's so good that the hard part is choosing who should step down to vice-president.
The Dems have idiots, liars, and fossils to pick from. Unfortunately, it will still be close. So close that any third party candidate would clinch it for them. That is the biggest threat.
If Trump runs as a third party candidate, then Bloomberg should run as a fourth party candidate. He's been waiting for just the right time to make his move. The Koch brothers can help start a write in campaign for Bernie for a fifth candidate. The ideal is to make it just as crowded as the Rrepublcan primary........Trump is definitely not a Sinclair Lewis character. He doesn't fit into any literary frame of reference I know. Maybe Hurstwod in Sister Carrie. Trump is filled with hubris. In literature that always ends badly for the protagonist. In real life, not always. For a grandiose asshole, Trump has led a pleasant life, and it probably won't end badly.
If Trump runs can he pick Charlie Sheen as his running mate?
That Roderick chick is way hot.
The Walker stuff I don't understand. I mean, I do understand that he's admired for avoiding recall and ramming a lot of ALEC-Koch stuff through a traditionally blue state. But don't you think at least some charisma is necessary? He looks like a severe narcoleptic. Maybe Midwesterners don't mind but I suspect his phenomenon is regional, like Christie's. Some things are just too obnoxious to be appreciated by anyone outside of their local in-crowd. And Christie's been politically decommissioned anyway, thank the Lord.
Biden won't run.
I await seeing how many gaffes Hillz will make as she attempts to secure her inevitable coronation.
Demos are going Repubo this time and anointing based on seniority in prez ambitions.
I think Trump should pick Hillary as his running mate. After all, Trump was stunned and disappointed when Obama didn't pick Hillary for his running mate.
Trump/Hillary
Trump/Sheen
get the angry lez female vote:
Trump/Rosie
Or as Trump himself said, Trump/Oprah. It all looks pretty grim.
Trump/Oprah. lol - I forgot about that. Geeez - what a joke.
Walker will have traction exactly because he is boring. A major benefit of Trump adsorbing the attacks is that Walker can make his case without the elitist a going after him. You know that George Will and wheelchair guy will turn their nose up because he does not have a college degree. Now they are going after Trump instead.
Trump definitely banged Brande Roderick because she was in the running to be wife number three. In fact I would bet that she is still available to him because he continues to support her career. Trump is no dummy.
I don't think you'll see George Will coming out against Walker because his wife works for Walker.
And Krauthammer sees no problem with the lack of a college degree re Walker. He also took on Obama when Obama ridiculed Walker over foreign policy a few months ago.
I hope you are right. But I think the elitist weenie weasels will have their knives out so their boy Bush can make it through.
Trump is a dummy on his feet stand alone and he proved it in the debate with two remarks: 1. That he not run 3rd party if he was the Republican nominee. Say what? 2. His casual bleeding comment about a woman, her eyes and another hole...then followed up with he "cherishes" women...what? Like someone "cherishes" a pet? To be as successful as he is, he has to have a whole crew to keep him straight, which he can buy because of inherited money, I only hope he pays them well.
I no longer find him amusing...but a distraction...that part I agree he is exemplary at.
My conspiracy paranoia also suspects Trump is a stalking horse. He certainly is no conservative or Republican. Only Trump can make Hillary look good.
If Bush III makes it, I might hold my nose and vote for him if running against Hillary. Otherwise he's not near my first choice. I am sick and tired of voting "least worst" lately. Please, Republicans, give us a candidate that has substance and isn't a drooling pandering dolt. Not holding my breath, sad to say. Maybe being in Michigan too long is the problem for me...here the sole difference between Republicans and Democrats is the lapel pins...and the Michigan Republicans have the worst tax pile on records to boot. Calling former "Republican" Governor Milliken (endorsed Kerry in 2004) a "Republican" is like calling Bernie Sanders a John Bircher. Not sure there's a cure anymore. I just hope. If Trump manages the nomination against Hillary I will NOT vote...why bother?
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