Apparently, Eric Garner was addressing the "Hey Buddy, got a cigarette?" crowd at street level in his individual way. Selling cigarettes one at a time.
I keep reading his big crime requiring police action was avoiding state cigarette taxes, exorbitant to begin with as luxury items to 1) discourage smoking 2) rake in tax revenue. Government always does know what is best for us governed. But from what I can see I believe that is wrong. There is nothing about the cigarettes themselves being illegal. I think Eric bought cigarettes legally, paid the state tax, then resold them individually at a profit. Was he expected to collect tax again? I don't think so. The problem is he was selling them as singles and that alone was made illegal by the city of New York.
Did Eric Garner buy duty free cigarettes or roll them himself from home-grown tobacco?
The problem is the ridiculous law forbidding selling single cigarettes.
It's rather clever. But seems a waste of entrepreneurial energy. With that kind of thinking applied otherwise Garner could have done much better.
The second problem is expecting police to enforce ridiculous laws. But enforce they must. Either write a law expected to be enforced or reconsider writing the law. And once reconsidered, reconsider again. And keep doing that until you arrive at the conclusion I really do want this law enforced with ... force.
This is a liberal city. It is a liberal law. It is a liberal unionized police force. It is liberal through and through. This is the result of pure liberalism and there is no other way to see this. And now Eric Garner is dead.
It has nothing to do with race. Any white guy skirting liberal law and resisting arrest would have more pressure applied similarly if not precisely the same way, piled on to submission each officer torquing their own direction to get the man handcuffed. Not necessarily with chokeholds but if that is what it took then that is what would happen.
President Obama on Eric Garner, "We are not going to let up."
CNN
WTF? This is not the executive's business. It's looking clear that Barack Hussein Obama intends leaving Hillary Rodham Clinton with a steaming pile of poo for her or whoever to clean up.
Making a racial issue of Grand Jury clearing the policeman for chokehold is another fake issue to keep blacks angry. You hire a community organizer for president, you get community agitation on a national scale. Then he stands back apart and above and watches the race war that ensues with a sinister grin. Maintaining lookout for the next incident to respond to and agitate. Can you honestly expect anything else?
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So much for the Constitutional lecturer.
You may not like a particular finding (Roe, Lawrence, Kelo, prayer in school), and you have the right to disagree and demonstrate, but inciting to riot is against the law.
But that's what community organizing is.
And all Little Zero is doing is insuring 20 years of Republican Presidents.
"Government is simply a word for the things we decide to do together. Like choke men to death over rules governing the sale of cigarettes."
-Charles C W Cooke
The only thing that matters to the democrat media complex is the skin color. The fact that cops killed a guy over a stupid tax law - shhhhhh. The democrat media complex likes stupid punitive tax laws.
I believe that Garner died of a heart attack, and not a choke hold.
The selling of "loosies" became a crime in 2010. Care to guess who the president was at the time?
Have some entrepreneur school children bring food articles to school to sell that the school lunches won't allow you to have, and Michelle will strangle you.
The government, large and small that is to blame for all of this nonsense.
Insty links Bryan Preston's analysis:
it ends:
"The strongest charge that the grand jury could possibly have handed down to the officer was some form of manslaughter or negligent homicide, and that might have been appropriate. The force used looks excessive. But the grand jury decided against that after reviewing the evidence, which means a jury was even less likely to convict. That doesn’t mean that they’re right. Seems like a marginal call either way. Seems like a bad call for the police to take him down by force. I don’t see why they couldn’t have given him a ticket, unless there are relevant events that we don’t know about that happened prior to the video.
It also is a bad call to let the FDA start creating new crimes, but President Obama has made a bad habit of turning the government loose on the whole country, and then daring courts to stop him. He’s a terrible president that way, and disrespects the rule of law and the rights of individuals to have any kind of certainty where we all stand with respect to the law at any given moment. Obama’s unleashing of the bureaucracy is among his most detestable actions. The next president has got to work with Congress to rein the unruly and power-hungry federal bureaucracy back in, or we all really are going to become felons in one way or another. We all will be subject to capricious and arbitrary law enforcement, which is really lawlessness and oppression.
Eric Garner died protesting (or evading, take your pick) taxes, along with violating the diktats of a bureaucratic government that has grown too remote from the people and too oppressive not just over black men, whose lives do matter and is among the reasons that the pro-life movement exists, but over all Americans. We are all subjects to the bureaucracy’s whims, and less and less true citizens as the bureaucracy grows more powerful."
I knew a young skinny poor white teen who ran away after getting caught with pot near a lake. The police chased him down and tazed him. He died. (this was all before CO's new pot laws)
Police occasionally use deadly force when they don't need to - regardless of skin color.
Ferguson was absolutely justified. You punch a cop in his vehicle and attempt to over-power his gun - you might get shot,
and justifiably so.
In Detroit's inner city you almost can't go in to a liquor store where they are not selling cigarettes one at a time...usually standing up in a large coffee cup. This prohibition in NYC is nonsense. It cold only be justified if the seller is intimidating passers buy to purchase his cigarettes, similar to how the street side window washers there and here do with their activity....e.g., you have no choice....and you are at risk if you do not pay up. Unless that type behavior can be shown by the guy, the cause for his detention is nonsense.
Yes, Virgina, there really are government over-reaches that can cause loss of life.
BTW...I don't blame those officers as much as I do the bureaucrats who made the law. At the least, both are culpable.
And I've not read anywhere, yet, what the prosecutor sought from the grand jury in terms of charges. That may be relevant as well if he sought murder only. Not sure how the GJ system works in NYC...if the GJ can decide the level of charge regardless of what the prosecutor asks for...asking for a murder charge only would only encourage more of the racism claims by the agenda driven rabble rousers.
One more thing...I am distinctly NOT a fan of the "soft uniform" worn by the initial police officers who contacted this man...e.g., casual cloths with a badge worn hanging from a neck chain or some such thing. Also nonsense...either be in plain cloths or in uniform, no in between. Most plain cloths officers would call for uniforms to make an arrest ... if simply to keep their anonymity in tact. It is a mess. I cannot understand how "crime" is suppressed by the soft outfits (no one is fooled) instead of plainly seen uniformed officers on a beat.
When you buy a pack of cigs - you pay the large taxes that are imposed on the original purchase. Selling one cig at a time is like a garage sale for cigs. Watch out Garage Sales - the democrats see an untapped source of revenue.
"I believe that Garner died of a heart attack, and not a choke hold."
That's nice. Many people believe lynching victims die of heart attacks, and not broken necks.
Meade, guns don't kill people. I kill people.
Jumping off a tall building won't kill you. The sudden stop will kill you.
Breaking the law, any law, makes you dead faster.
So, Garner had a broken neck?
So, AllenS cares how Eric Garner died?
Selling "looseys" is a violation of FDA regulations and a federal offense.
If you run a convenience store selling cigarettes, you don't want a character like Eric Garner hanging out by your front door, and you call the police to have him removed. If that does not work right away, you call your alderman, and then the mayor's office.
This call somehoww came to a two-alarm response, one uniformed and one plainclothes with a sergeant commanding each.
One video I have seen shows a uniformed officer bending down close to check on Mr. Garner's condition.
No grand jury was going to charge officer Pantaleo for actions taken under a superior officer's immediate supervision, and here there was the uniformed officers as well.
Oh, and one of the sergeants was Black and female.
No wonder the networks don't show that on their video clips!
Come on now, time to Stand With Hillary.
What's the matter Meade, did you meal ticket kick you out again?
Back to trolling other sites eh, Lawn Boy?
Better watch out, with all of the millions of new hispanics that King Putt unleashed, there have to be at least a few gardeners out there with low sexual standards who could replace you.
I'm more interested how often Althouse says no when you want to borrow her car.
Chip you are on a roll. Great posts buddy.
"If you run a convenience store selling cigarettes, you don't want a character like Eric Garner hanging out by your front door, and you call the police to have him removed."
Loitering works. I don't see the need to have selling "loosies" be illegal. I understand that it *is* illegal, but it's one of those things that add up to everyone being a felon in the end. The Republic will continue, even if the government doesn't get it's cut of every single transaction between people. Really, it will.
So many laws do nothing but make everything more expensive. For example, the charter school my second went to for a couple of years had a PB&J thing with donated bread, peanut butter, jelly and fresh fruit... the school also contracted for a local business to sell food. "Pinky's" complained (or threatened to) to the law and got the PB&J shut down because they didn't have a kitchen up to code for "food safety".
Because that's the law... and kids ate the sandwiches instead of buying food from Pinky, and Pinky had to follow the rules for a food truck, which is expensive to do, and had the unfair competition shut down.
The dumb doesn't end with just asking why it is that someone can't just make PB&J sandwiches and give them away without running afoul some law... but why *Pinky's" also couldn't just make food and sell it without running afoul the law.
No doubt someone got food poisoning once and someone said, "There should be a law!" Because food poisoning is so much more pleasant when a food truck had to pay for certification *before* they make you sick.
Sell a cigarette, sell an apple, ... you know what else an enterprising person can't do without breaking the law? Sell fresh produce out of the back of their truck in a "food desert". Because someone might *do it wrong*.
DeBlasio has got some kind of pedestrian safety program going on. In furtherance of it, he should start arresting jaywalkers. Send some cops up to Harlem to take jaywalkers into custody. Will the subsequent riot be the officers fault, or DeBlasio's.........I understand that the coos screwed up, but I would not send a man to prison based on what I saw. The blunderhead move was sending in a task force to take a guy down for selling loonies. How come we don't know his name, and be isn't defending his vision of a loosie free NY in the press.
The suicide of the west can be traced to the illiberal liberal desire to make us all babies and criminals.
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