It's about the economy, Stupid.
That's Dr. David Brat to you, professor of economics, Randolph-Macon College.
So not a regular schlub to be dismissed as wacko tea party as mischaracterized.
His whole spiel is returning to basics of economics and political conservatism. There is no mention of social conservatism. Characterization as far right and tea party radical is flatly wrong. Brat denies such labeling. Dismissed by media for not addressing political issues of the day as defined by media, his supporters reject that characterization.
This piece in the Washington Post on Brat defeating Cantor is reasonably good. However, the comments to Costa's, Vozella's and Fahrenthold's article show that Washington Post's readership, the readers that bother to register for comments, is basically retarded.
Washington Post Politics article http://tinyurl.com/kpualhn
coments: http://tinyurl.com/kpse4xn
For fun, let's look at a few, these following comments are typical. There are thousands.
* The Tea Party is being jettisoned like sewer ballast. This one win aint sheeite, well actually it's just that. Enjoy the corn in yer dookie, Tea Party.
* Another reminder that the Tea Party is against anything that doesn't benefit old, white Christians.
* Some of you TPers seem to think Brat is going to go in there and punch Obama in the face ..
HAHAHAHAHA
* I love how the Tea Party is grabbing the tablecloth on the way to the floor.
* Our Agenda is safe --- Conservo Agenda is DOA.
* It's like someone came across a GoPro in the woods of a Richmond suburb and unleashed a horror hiding in the shaky cam video footage of a straight to Netflix movie.
* Cantor wasn't crazy enough. So let's dive deep into insanity and see what happens.
* Stupid is as stupid does. Just how stupid can stupid do?
* Great, a foaming at the mouth Tea nut R will replace the feed the rich corporate robot R. Awesome.
* It is a sign of "the end times" when Eric Cantor is challenged as being "insufficiently conservative."
Cantor is already far to the right of the mainstream. God forbid we get someone more conservative.
Of course, the Tea Party types will probably also want to add the reparative therapy plank that the Texas GOP just added, too.
Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends.
* The idea that the Tea Party is unmoored from reality is neither childish or childlike.
The Tea Party is, literally, obsessed with the imaginary. That bumper sticker sentiment, which I did not write, expresses all that need be expressed quite concisely. The truth tends to hurt when your politics are, to quote an earlier poster, "bat excrement crazy."
* Loving watching the Republicans implode. Go with the Tea Baggers and watch how fast you'll become irrelevant, GOP!
* Who would ever have thought that Ricky wasn't bat excrement crazy enough for the New GOP?
* Run with the Tea Party devils and expect to get burnt.
Virginians voted Tea so a Democrat will win in November. Too funny.
* Wow, cool! A new Civil War but this time it's the new Confederates against the old Confederates.
The crazier you are the more Republicans vote for you. Hard to believe Cantor wasn't crazy enough.
* All aboard the crazy train.
* It's NOT a national election Baggers. It's one representative from a District who paid NO attention to them until the primaries. I'm glad he LOST.
And many many many more brilliant bon mots along these same lines. Projection, is aint just a tributary in Egypt. Jeeze Louise, talk about thick. Slow on the uptake. Resistant to new information. Impossible to teach. Proof, if any is needed, that resolute and misplaced partisan loyalty makes you stupid. Shows you've decided that forfeiting thinking for yourself is the way to go. Vote straight party line and divide your thinking in half. Take all your politics spoon-fed by party. Their decisions become your decisions. You end up supporting all kind of unsavory things. Base all your present day decisions on one fatal decision made long ago, when you were eighteen. For example:
Look, Chip, I'm a Democrat because I am gay.
As if that explains all. I don't even know where to start with that without reconstructing someone's whole personality. I'm told basically they vote with their dick. Their sexual impulses determine their entire political outlook, their life as informed American voter. And that decision was made four decades previously without any reconsideration along the way regardless of how far their party veered nor how much other crap their party drags with them that must be swallowed to achieve -- what? -- gay Disneyland? That instead of, say, I generally vote Democrat because I believe in their economic principles and their fidelity to constitutional principles of limited government and adherence to Bill of Rights and protection of our exceedingly rare freedoms. That I could work with, but not resolute loyalty to a single decision made as a child and based on sexual inclination. Besides, I was invited. Who wants to be kicked out of an otherwise happy occasion?
I cannot deal.
And that is just one example of misplaced wrongly considered loyalty. Discussing these things gets you nowhere. No level of cogency, no sound convincing can break through that level of thick headedness apparent in these comments I lifted.
That leaves only one thing.
* It's NOT a national election Baggers. It's one representative from a District who paid NO attention to them until the primaries. I'm glad he LOST.
And many many many more brilliant bon mots along these same lines. Projection, is aint just a tributary in Egypt. Jeeze Louise, talk about thick. Slow on the uptake. Resistant to new information. Impossible to teach. Proof, if any is needed, that resolute and misplaced partisan loyalty makes you stupid. Shows you've decided that forfeiting thinking for yourself is the way to go. Vote straight party line and divide your thinking in half. Take all your politics spoon-fed by party. Their decisions become your decisions. You end up supporting all kind of unsavory things. Base all your present day decisions on one fatal decision made long ago, when you were eighteen. For example:
Look, Chip, I'm a Democrat because I am gay.
As if that explains all. I don't even know where to start with that without reconstructing someone's whole personality. I'm told basically they vote with their dick. Their sexual impulses determine their entire political outlook, their life as informed American voter. And that decision was made four decades previously without any reconsideration along the way regardless of how far their party veered nor how much other crap their party drags with them that must be swallowed to achieve -- what? -- gay Disneyland? That instead of, say, I generally vote Democrat because I believe in their economic principles and their fidelity to constitutional principles of limited government and adherence to Bill of Rights and protection of our exceedingly rare freedoms. That I could work with, but not resolute loyalty to a single decision made as a child and based on sexual inclination. Besides, I was invited. Who wants to be kicked out of an otherwise happy occasion?
I cannot deal.
And that is just one example of misplaced wrongly considered loyalty. Discussing these things gets you nowhere. No level of cogency, no sound convincing can break through that level of thick headedness apparent in these comments I lifted.
That leaves only one thing.
In a way it really is devolution. In the sense of recognizing our country is moving the wrong way politically, and returning to basics. In terms of evolution that is retrograde. Two steps forward, one step back, two steps forward one step back, ten steps forward, eleven steps back. It's shocking when you are gleefully witnessing your country with its constitution-based laws, and its free market principles moving headlong toward one-party rule and socialized economy with top-down direction suddenly slam the brakes and reverse. It is impossible to process any way other than by insanity led by atavistic impulses. Thus doctors in economics speaking in simple straightforward sentences of the sort that apply to every American and not just so-called progressives, in reality retrogressive themselves, are dismissed as archaic insane idiots.
Can I call 'em or what? This is me in the Feds dumping immigrants in border states post.
But it is not by himself. It is through his Party and through government agencies under the executive branch. That means those branches have turned sinister, it means those government branches act with impunity. And what all that invites is even more severe far right reaction as seen in Europe and in England, if you count England as separate from Europe as many British do.Observe: Shellacking Phase II, the beginning. The pendulum, it swings. It failed to swing back last national election. That means it was cranked back even further for an even more powerful return. That exceedingly simple pendulum swing is viewed as insane evolution in reverse to the progressive mind. They will see their world crashing in. It is no such thing. The social advances so-called progressives made are secure. They are locked in. But there will be a return to more fundamental constitutional principles and to fiduciary responsibility while holding onto social advances. That is what conservatism is, keeping and maintaing the things that are good and worth keeping.
I see Lem has another post scheduled on this same topic. So two chances to develop your thoughts.
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WaPo comments usually reflect the Choom Gang mentality, but I smell a lot of flop sweat this morning.
Early consensus is that Cantor lost because he was equivocating on amnesty.
I agree that the backlash is inevitable. I was thinking it would be more along the lines of violence, but an orderly defenestration is fine with me.
The left are in full *tea party* melt down mode.
This guy Brat seems pretty normal, and he wasn't really a tea party candidate.
oh well, the radial left-winger socialist prog fascists cannot help themselves. Retarded indeed.
Cantor's loss had marginally little to do with amnesty, although those who want to demonize Brat's voters will try to make that case.
Cantor lost because he (1) stopped paying attention to the voters in his district; and (2) spent nearly all of his time working with K Street lobbyists to enrich himself, plot legislative strategies, and map a path to become Speaker of The House.
Cantor was so arrogant that he was seen spending part of election day morning in a DC Starbucks meeting with several lobbyists. He thought he had the election waxed, so waxed that he didn't need to show up in his district until it was time to thank the proles for yet another re-election.
Dave Brat (don't you wish he had a daughter name Ivanna who marries a guy named Tom Wurst and becomes Ivanna Brat-Wurst?) is a very smart man. Seminarian, later earned a PhD in economics, professor. He went door-to-door, shook every hand in his district and asked for peoples' votes. He favors smaller federal government, lower spending, less intrusion into business, simple tax code, no government spying on its citizens, and closing the borders.
Not complicated, is it?
His victory will be mulled over and discussed and every overpaid political analyst (looking at you, Carl Rove and Michael Murphy and Chris Matthews, etc.) who. absolutely. did. not.see. this. coming. will dash in front of cameras and carefully explain why and how it happened. They will be full of shit. They and others like them in the Star Bellied Sneetch consultant class of the Republican Insiders Club are deaf, dumb and blind about local politics these days. Effing clueless. And they are part of the problem.
A guy with a good message, simply and truthfully articulated went door to door asking for votes and in so doing defeated an incumbent who outspent him ten to one. There's your message.
@Michael
I don't disagree that other issues played a role.
Those pics of all those kids being stockpiled on the border had to have a huge impact on the electorate in VA.
Representing the hayseed voters doesn't get you invited to cocktail parties in Georgetown, which is how a pol gets all those opportunities to enrich himself.
So, I'd keep a close watch on this Brat guy, too.
He might ultimately prefer Georgetown cocktail parties, too.
Maybe if the proles had more cocktail parties, the elite would pay more attention.
Probably not; we call 'em beer-n-brat picnics and we wear shorts and talk too loud.
You're not going to hear a lot of moaning from insiders (other than lobbyists) about Cantor's defeat.
He is known for having a Congressional staff that is aloof and non-responsive to others, including constituents in VA07. Some of Cantor's former staffers are now will-placed in lobbying organizations and consultancies, an were busily work on plans to advance Cantor to the Speaker's chair, from which Cantor could easily promote their preferred legislation.
Cantor flew too close to the sun and his wings melted.
"That exceedingly simple pendulum swing is viewed as insane evolution in reverse to the progressive mind."
Chip, I don't know if that's true about all or most progressives. Surely they understand the back and forth of politics.
Your idea of social changes staying in place while economics revert to a conservative position is interesting.
Great post. Gives me hope that more upright people will step to the fore in complex times. That really is our only hope.
Haz:
"Cantor was so arrogant that he was seen spending part of election day morning in a DC Starbucks meeting with several lobbyists. He thought he had the election waxed, so waxed that he didn't need to show up in his district until it was time to thank the proles for yet another re-election."
Wow, what an ass.
Haz - @8:24
This.
Cozying up to lobbyists should
get a creep thrown out. Sadly, I used to like Cantor. He really is a fine example of how DC corrupts.
(yeah but Haz - Brat has unacceptable opinions. He teaches crazy perverse things that are outside of the acceptable progressive thought profile.)
Cantor spent 5 Million. Brat spent less than 200,000.
I love it.
April - yeah, that whole smaller, less intrusive government thing gets the Proggs all sideways.
In truth, random names pulled out of the phone book could run our government in a more transparent and competent fashion.
Cantor lost because he was equivocating on amnesty.
I believe that is the case. The people are not as stupid as the politicians would like to think......although given the examples by Chip on the news article, it is no wonder they think that. However, the hackneyed term silent majority is a reality. Those people don't comment or interact with the leftard loons.
Brat is a professor of economics. The economics of an uncontrolled immigration strategy, of amnesty for millions of low wage workers, uneducated and illegal is not going to do anything but KEEP wages low and eliminate the ability of people to get into the middle class and keep those in the middle class from rising up the economic ladder.
People know this. They see it in their own everyday lives.
THIS is why Brat won. Cantor was weaseling on amnesty. Who wants amnesty??? Follow the money.....the Chamber of Commerce, Business interests who profit when we have a permanent underclass of low wage workers and low information voters.
Time to stop apologizing for being opposed to the fundamental transformation of America, whether sponsored by Democrats or Republicans.
I Liked what Brat had to say yesterday regarding the influx of children/people flooding across the border.
Why isn't anyone in the media interested in why these very people what to flee nations run by 3rd world dictators? Isn't that the root problem? Sure, the dems and the R's are offering "free stuff and amnesty".. and that's a powerful lure. But why leave your life behind, if life is good?
Answer: Life sucks without freedom and the free market. Ironic that one political party constantly attempts to slip and slide us into life without free markets.
Are we expected to take in every dissatisfied individual who
leaves a dictatorial hell hole behind? that's a lot of people - most of the world, actually. What can we do to influence and support change in those dictatorial hell holes? How can we create a better world by spreading peace, prosperity, free markets and free minds? Does anyone care? Nope - cheap labor for the zuckerberg.
The YouTube clip is mistitled, as the character crying is Scott TENORMAN.
I brought this up a while back here and no one seemed to know what I was talking about. I'm glad that at least someone here is clued into South Park.
Also, Scott is crying in that clip because ... well, that would be telling.
Some of those "kids" coming over the border are well into their teens, and already established gang members. Their presence is strictly business.
I'd say "I told you so" but none of you doubted me anyway.
All that it takes to turn a perfectly normal, rational, moderate (though not centrist), admirably educated and respected person into a radical mouth-breathing gay-women-race hater who is a danger to society... is running as a Republican.
I don’t share the dislike of Cantor because I always figured he must be doing something right since apparently Obama hates him.
Cantor had a 95% conservative vote rating. That's pretty high.
his undoing was that he took it all for granted, become another DC insider - and amnesty.
Not complicated, is it?
Not really, but that sounds like a lot of the same menu that Can'ter and the rest say they're all about. If the biggest difference wasn't about Can'ter being a total lobbyist-licking squib, I'm not sure why you wrote so much about that in your first graf.
So this is interesting to watch even conservatives finally going after pols with too much interest in just the money-influence game. I'm actually kind of impressed and optimistic.
Amnesty might be an issue in much of the country but never in powerful California for two reasons: 1. They need to push the gov't for more H1B visas to get Indian and Chinese tech gurus to fill the demand anyway and 2. All that tech makes their state so economically powerful that they don't need to care about competing against low-skill migrant labor.
All politics is local, guys. When we wrap these things up as national issues, we forget why the gridlocky status quo suits the local interests that make up the house and legislative bodies anyway.
"Cantor's loss had marginally little to do with amnesty, although those who want to demonize Brat's voters will try to make that case."
His loss had EVERYTHING to do with Amnesty. He wasn't "equivocating" on it, he was working with Obama to PUSH AMNESTY. Despite the fact, that every Conservative Republican knows Amnesty will be political suicide for the GOP and Conservatism in the USA. Cantor has been out of touch for years - its only when he began teaming up with Obama to push Amnesty that he got bounced.
Here was Brat's final pitch to the voters:
"The entire amnesty and low-wage agenda collapses if Cantor loses — all the billions of special interests dollars, all the favors, all the insider dealing — all of it is stopped in its tracks tomorrow if the patriotic working families of Virginia send Eric Cantor back home tomorrow.
-Tomorrow, the middle class has its chance to fight back.
--Tomorrow, the people of Virginia can show up to the polls and defeat the entire crony corporate lobby.
-Tomorrow, we can restore our borders, rebuild our communities, and revitalize our middle class.”
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/10/the-benefits-of-beating-cantor/#ixzz34NsEj4u1
If a poll done yesterday is an honest reflection of the truth of the matter, I think Michael Haz's contention that "Cantor's loss had marginally little to do with amnesty" may be on the mark -- poll results:
"About 72 percent of registered voters in Cantor’s district polled on Tuesday said they either “strongly” or “somewhat” support immigration reform that would secure the borders, block employers from hiring those here illegally, and allow undocumented residents without criminal backgrounds to gain legal status – three key tenets of an overhaul, according to a poll by the left-leaning firm Public Policy Polling and commissioned by the liberal advocacy group Americans United for Change.
Looking just at Republicans in Cantor’s district, the poll found that 70 percent of GOP registered voters would support such a plan, while 27 percent would oppose."
The particular problem with amnesty isn't the *amnesty*... it's that border control and labor law enforcement never happens... and it never happens with enough consistency and predictability that it's hard to avoid the conclusion that this was the plan all along.
People shouldn't trust opinion polls on public issues. Its naive to think you're getting "just the facts". 70% of Americans would support Hitler "Somewhat" if you phrased the question right.
As Synova states, the premise of the poll question is a lie.
Amnesty is NOT going to secure the border or block employers from hiring those here illegally. So, the whole poll question is a lie.
If the Democrats and the Cheap Labor Republicans wanted "border security" they would have done it 25 years ago, after the 1st Amnesty under Reagan.
People shouldn't trust opinion polls on public issues. Its naive to think you're getting "just the facts". 70% of Americans would support Hitler "Somewhat" if you phrased the question right.
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