The best ever analysis of that song is here. It's really hard to add anything, IMHO. Even if you can't stand Dylan or Hendrix, you will learn something from that essay and probably appreciate both artists more.
Whenever I listen to that song through, after it ends I have the expectation to hear the opening wah-wah licks of "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)." The vinyl grooves are still imprinted somehow in my brain.
All along the watchtower, Princes kept the view, While all the women came and went...
What's his name Elliot Rodger seemed to say something like that... then again the confusion is so great... hell if I 'know' what somebody is really saying.
I'm following 'save you a click' so at least I could imagine I'm saving time... what a ludicrous idea.
"You may be the heavyweight champion of the world. You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls. But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed"
Lets hear it from the Prince's mouth.
"If I gave you diamonds and pearls Would you be a happy boy or a girl If I could I would give you the world But all I can do is just offer you my love
Which one of us is right, if we always fight Why can't we just let love decide Am I the weaker man because I understand That love must be the master plan"
Values... the term by it self, in and of itself, doesn't hint one way or the other as to which is "the way, the truth, salvation"... it doesn't instruct.
Each generation has to find it for themselves... and the only way they find it is by stumbling.
Except now the new generation seems to want to do away with stumbling... sort of like monopoly, pass go skip jail and collect the 200... which if I recall correctly... you aren't supposed to be able to... is against the rules. how archaic.
Lem said... Did you look into that Trooper like heading for me that you said you were going to look into?
I never got a response/help from someone who knew of a free or cheap version of MacPaint or a Mac-friendly program that lets you import a jpeg and than fill and color. That's how I made Troop's logo.
I meant to say astute, but that other thing came out. Just yesterday I mentioned to the barber shop lady I never did understand Jimi Hendrix. She is a younger Hispanic woman. She told me she didn't understand much either. But she saw a show about him on t.v. recently and gained from it a new understanding. And now she likes him more because of it. I asked her what specifically is her new understanding. She could not say, but she still likes him better because of it.
I told her a musical person told me a long time ago it was Jimi Hendrix who basically invented the electric guitar as a valid instrument. Before him, it was not considered valid to serious musical people, then Jimi Hendrix came along and the whole musical world went, "Wow. That's ace! " And it wasn't just his tricks either, like playing left handed, or picking notes with his teeth and behind his back, no, he forced the world to recognize electric instrumentation as worthy among symphonic instruments. He made the world notice.
@Chip: You should spoken to her about how Carlos Santana invented his sound on account of how young women swayed their hips in the audience. They started out as a blues or R&B band but when they incorporated Latin rhythm into their songs, the girls instinctively responded as hip-swirling hippies and the rest is history.
Apparently it works through your browser. Apparently it's free.
As to importing a jpg, if imports don't work, and they should but sometimes photos are protected, go HA!, and take a screen grab. There are multiple ways for whole screen or a selected area. Then adjust the screen grab instead. As I did just now to produce an animated gif that I'll show momentarily. Gifs are created by saving as gif, after producing a timeline from a stack of adjusted frames.
Text is all the eh. It's for people who don't trust their handwriting with a mouse, or a direction pad.
For my own text that I handwrite, as you will see with "thud" I create a new transparent window.
To make the text show up more clearly, I pick a color from the background frame and use it to darken or lighten the background of the text in its own transparency.
To frame the text like a cartoon voice bubble coming from a character's mouth, Yet another transparent layer.
Then compress all layers into one. Original background, text background, text, and dialogue bubble. Clever, eh?
But you cannot do these wondrous things in original Macpaint. That program does not work on the concept of stacked transparency layers. I don't think so.
This concludes my MacPaint pedantry for the nonce.
Photo host sites allow certain adjustments like Photobucket.
There are online services as well. Photoshop online, fer instance. Search [photo adjusting online +text ] I'm always disappointed with their limitations. And of course, there is always GIMP, an magnificent extraordinary program very close to Photoshop and best of all it's free. It's worthwhile being versed in both Photoshop and GIMP, just because. Any question you have regarding how to use GIMP is readily answered by asking as if you are asking a person sitting right next to you. It's awesome how fast you can pick things up simply by framing your question logically. Like "how do I select an area?" or "How do I make a new layer?" and "How do I make an animation?" If you get an answer with a lot of words, then go back to search result page and pick a short answer. Your learning curve shortens impressively.
Did I just now say my pedantry is concluded. Well, I lied then innit.
My first Vietnam tour was Oct 67-Oct 68. That song was one of the defining songs of our generational cohort. It used to be played constantly on the jukebox at the MACV Club (the old French Officers Club) in DaNang.
Hendrix demonstrated the great emotional range and power of the electric guitar. Obviously one could pluck out melodies on it, or generate chords. And turning up the amp made it louder. The power chord and the Marshall amp added more.
Power, tenderness, and much in between. The Wind Cried Mary is another great example of the emotional range of the electric guitar. People didn't get that before Hendrix, at least not most people.
Ultimately, Hendrix showed that the electric guitar had more in common with the piano than the harpsichord or clavichord.
If I didn't have to figure in his motorcycle accident, which I did not know about, my best interpretation would be God talking to the Devil. They approach society together, yin and yang, toward Armageddon.
Going with the linked interpretation, if Dylan is the Joker, who is the thief?
When you talk about riders approaching in an apocalyptic setting, the immediate Western instinct is to think of the Four Riders, the fact that it's just two... a gathering storm, but the Four aren't assembled just yet.
The linked analysis does a lot of projection, mostly of value judgments. The writer needs it to be a fulmination against established society and the evils of consumerism and all that tedious rot.
I kind of like this analysis, although his fastidious refusal to allow an equivalence between "the joker" and Jesus is kind of starchy - the Holy Fool is an old trope of respectable vintage - "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness" and "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men".
Interesting, Mitch, so many ways to go. I can see Jesus as a 'fool' for God. And his great doubt and fear in the garden would play into 'there must be some way out of here.' 'Businessmen drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth'...the world was brought forth through the Word, so Jesus 'owns' it.
I appreciate the author's insight that 'while the women came and went, barefoot servants too' could mean the women at the foot of the cross. The Apostles took a powder, but it could mean prophets, angels, etc.
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Whenever I listen to that song through, after it ends I have the expectation to hear the opening wah-wah licks of "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)." The vinyl grooves are still imprinted somehow in my brain.
Been wondering if anybody had any thoughts on these little tidbits.
No pictures allowed in the shelters for the kids from the Children's Crusade and the Border Patrol isn't allowed to talk to reporters.
Makes you wonder what's there to hide.
Remember what they said about what was going on in the Superdome during Katrina?
All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view,
While all the women came and went...
What's his name Elliot Rodger seemed to say something like that... then again the confusion is so great... hell if I 'know' what somebody is really saying.
I'm following 'save you a click' so at least I could imagine I'm saving time... what a ludicrous idea.
When I heard this song I associated it with JC on the cross talking to the thief.
I guess I was not far off, in that, according to what I read on the link, Dylan was going for a serious somber sobering theme... or something.
the ominous ending is very much in play today.
Speaking of those princes in the watchtower...
"You may be the heavyweight champion of the world. You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls. But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed"
Lets hear it from the Prince's mouth.
"If I gave you diamonds and pearls
Would you be a happy boy or a girl
If I could I would give you the world
But all I can do is just offer you my love
Which one of us is right, if we always fight
Why can't we just let love decide
Am I the weaker man because I understand
That love must be the master plan"
Prince, Diamonds and Pearls.
Lem said...
the ominous ending is very much in play today.
I know exactly what you mean.
Values... the term by it self, in and of itself, doesn't hint one way or the other as to which is "the way, the truth, salvation"... it doesn't instruct.
Each generation has to find it for themselves... and the only way they find it is by stumbling.
Except now the new generation seems to want to do away with stumbling... sort of like monopoly, pass go skip jail and collect the 200... which if I recall correctly... you aren't supposed to be able to... is against the rules. how archaic.
I know exactly what you mean.
Ah!
Did you look into that Trooper like heading for me that you said you were going to look into?
Lem said...
Did you look into that Trooper like heading for me that you said you were going to look into?
I never got a response/help from someone who knew of a free or cheap version of MacPaint or a Mac-friendly program that lets you import a jpeg and than fill and color. That's how I made Troop's logo.
But I lost access to it and so need to replicate what I used to have.
Capisce?
Capisce?
Comprehendo.
The analysis is very ass toot.
I meant to say astute, but that other thing came out. Just yesterday I mentioned to the barber shop lady I never did understand Jimi Hendrix. She is a younger Hispanic woman. She told me she didn't understand much either. But she saw a show about him on t.v. recently and gained from it a new understanding. And now she likes him more because of it. I asked her what specifically is her new understanding. She could not say, but she still likes him better because of it.
I told her a musical person told me a long time ago it was Jimi Hendrix who basically invented the electric guitar as a valid instrument. Before him, it was not considered valid to serious musical people, then Jimi Hendrix came along and the whole musical world went, "Wow. That's ace! " And it wasn't just his tricks either, like playing left handed, or picking notes with his teeth and behind his back, no, he forced the world to recognize electric instrumentation as worthy among symphonic instruments. He made the world notice.
And that's all I know. I still don't get him.
@Chip: You should spoken to her about how Carlos Santana invented his sound on account of how young women swayed their hips in the audience. They started out as a blues or R&B band but when they incorporated Latin rhythm into their songs, the girls instinctively responded as hip-swirling hippies and the rest is history.
Search: [original macpaint]
Cloud paint.
Apparently it works through your browser. Apparently it's free.
As to importing a jpg, if imports don't work, and they should but sometimes photos are protected, go HA!, and take a screen grab. There are multiple ways for whole screen or a selected area. Then adjust the screen grab instead. As I did just now to produce an animated gif that I'll show momentarily. Gifs are created by saving as gif, after producing a timeline from a stack of adjusted frames.
Text is all the eh. It's for people who don't trust their handwriting with a mouse, or a direction pad.
For my own text that I handwrite, as you will see with "thud" I create a new transparent window.
To make the text show up more clearly, I pick a color from the background frame and use it to darken or lighten the background of the text in its own transparency.
To frame the text like a cartoon voice bubble coming from a character's mouth, Yet another transparent layer.
Then compress all layers into one. Original background, text background, text, and dialogue bubble. Clever, eh?
But you cannot do these wondrous things in original Macpaint. That program does not work on the concept of stacked transparency layers. I don't think so.
This concludes my MacPaint pedantry for the nonce.
Photo host sites allow certain adjustments like Photobucket.
There are online services as well. Photoshop online, fer instance. Search [photo adjusting online +text ] I'm always disappointed with their limitations. And of course, there is always GIMP, an magnificent extraordinary program very close to Photoshop and best of all it's free. It's worthwhile being versed in both Photoshop and GIMP, just because. Any question you have regarding how to use GIMP is readily answered by asking as if you are asking a person sitting right next to you. It's awesome how fast you can pick things up simply by framing your question logically. Like "how do I select an area?" or "How do I make a new layer?" and "How do I make an animation?"
If you get an answer with a lot of words, then go back to search result page and pick a short answer. Your learning curve shortens impressively.
Did I just now say my pedantry is concluded. Well, I lied then innit.
"There must be some way outta here"
My first Vietnam tour was Oct 67-Oct 68. That song was one of the defining songs of our generational cohort. It used to be played constantly on the jukebox at the MACV Club (the old French Officers Club) in DaNang.
Virgil, I was there the same time as you.
Hendrix demonstrated the great emotional range and power of the electric guitar. Obviously one could pluck out melodies on it, or generate chords. And turning up the amp made it louder. The power chord and the Marshall amp added more.
Power, tenderness, and much in between. The Wind Cried Mary is another great example of the emotional range of the electric guitar. People didn't get that before Hendrix, at least not most people.
Ultimately, Hendrix showed that the electric guitar had more in common with the piano than the harpsichord or clavichord.
If I didn't have to figure in his motorcycle accident, which I did not know about, my best interpretation would be God talking to the Devil. They approach society together, yin and yang, toward Armageddon.
Going with the linked interpretation, if Dylan is the Joker, who is the thief?
Going with the linked interpretation, if Dylan is the Joker, who is the thief?
Albert Grossman?
I need more info to get that one. His agent?
When you talk about riders approaching in an apocalyptic setting, the immediate Western instinct is to think of the Four Riders, the fact that it's just two... a gathering storm, but the Four aren't assembled just yet.
The linked analysis does a lot of projection, mostly of value judgments. The writer needs it to be a fulmination against established society and the evils of consumerism and all that tedious rot.
I kind of like this analysis, although his fastidious refusal to allow an equivalence between "the joker" and Jesus is kind of starchy - the Holy Fool is an old trope of respectable vintage - "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness" and "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men".
Interesting, Mitch, so many ways to go. I can see Jesus as a 'fool' for God. And his great doubt and fear in the garden would play into 'there must be some way out of here.' 'Businessmen drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth'...the world was brought forth through the Word, so Jesus 'owns' it.
I appreciate the author's insight that 'while the women came and went, barefoot servants too' could mean the women at the foot of the cross. The Apostles took a powder, but it could mean prophets, angels, etc.
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