Sunday, December 22, 2013

Pushback In Chicago

Reverend Al Sharpton called for a community meeting in Chicago.  The Reverend Al didn't hear what he expected to hear.  And he pretty much wasn't allowed to speak.

Very interesting pushback.

Be sure to watch the video, which for some reason, will not link to this blog just now.

44 comments:

Lem said...

"Poverty pimps".

Lem said...

They may say that now, when it comes down to pulling the lever, they will do as they are told.

ricpic said...

A black Tea Party alliance. Al, Jessie and Montana Urban Schmendrik just had conniption fits.

AllenS said...

I hope those people realize that the Republican party will treat them the same way. They need a movement of Black Tea Party objectives, designed specifically to address their problems.

YoungHegelian said...

Because it’s not just white folks a part of this, but it is on the fifth floor. The fifth floor took your schools, the fifth floor just took your jobs that he said that he gave to the ex-offender… and every single alderman was a part of this criminal process.”

Could someone who knows Chicago politics please explain to me what the "fifth floor" is? Thanks!

chickelit said...

The Black Tea Party confronts the Brie Party. Gotta love it.

Michael Haz said...

YH - the Fifth Floor of the Chicago City Hall is where the offices of the mayor and aldermen are located.

Chip Ahoy said...

I think this is the most interesting development all year, and it's been a very interesting year watching things fall apart so spectacularly. I must say the glee it gives my heart is satisfying.

In the video, I think they still misunderstand the tea party in a fundamental way, seeing them through Chicago lens, reading them as Chicagoans read, they see them, Chicago blacks see tea party whites, to put it simply, as ruthlessly going straight for the jugular, to replace candidates with their own for their own interests. Chicago reads tea party interests as self-interest, not as national-interest, but still, they're almost saying the same thing. Chicago blacks want their tea party to produce candidates to do things for them, not reduce national debt and limited government and power to states not feds, and to get off everybody's back and allow America to happen, to the extent that is possible. Their individual town hall speeches indicate they still want government to do things for them.

YoungHegelian said...

@MH,

Thanks for the info!

What a strange phrase! But I guess it's a quick way of lumping the mayor & alderman together in a group.

Icepick said...

Who cares? All those black folk are going to vote for whoever the Democratic Party puts on the ballot. Which is to say, they're going to keep voting for more of the same, because that's all they ever do. There hasn't been a voting block this reliable since the days of Stalin's Communist Party back in the old USSR.

YoungHegelian said...

@Icepick,

All those black folk are going to vote for whoever the Democratic Party puts on the ballot.

Things change over time, Icepick. Ethnic Catholics used to be reliably Democratic, but now are the classic swing voters. While most Jews vote Democratic, young (35 or less) Jewish males were no more likely to vote for Obama than their gentile cohort. Not to mention that Orthodox Jews now are as reliably Republican as their white Christian religious counterparts.

chickelit said...

Aren't many Chicago Democratic voters brain dead or in fact, dead dead?

Icepick said...

Things change over time, Icepick.

No shit. Blacks used to vote only 75% Democratic. Of course, that was a few years before I was born. Now it is always 90+%. And in 2012 all of five whole black people didn't vote party-line Democratic.

No, last year blacks voted overwhelmingly for the party that has brought them record levels of poverty, unemployment, crime and familial destruction. That's what they want more of, and that is why they will never stop voting for Democrats.

YoungHegelian said...

@Icepick,

That's what they want more of, and that is why they will never stop voting for Democrats.

Blacks vote Democratic because they are massively over-represented in unions, non-profits & as state, local, & federal government workers. They are voting to maintain their employment & money stream. In other words, their interests, like most other voters.

As the Democrats necessarily cut-back in the future on government spending (they won't have a choice), and the income stream dries up, it'll be interesting to see if the blacks stay on board. Already in Chicago, the teachers' union & the Mayor are going at each other. That scenario will be repeated in many blue enclaves around the country.

Blacks are not so stupid that they don't notice that on many topics they are on the conservative side of the culture wars, or that tony liberals love them in theory, but shun them in practice. How this'll play out in the long term is anyone's guess.

Icepick said...

Blacks are not so stupid that they don't notice that on many topics they are on the conservative side of the culture wars, or that tony liberals love them in theory, but shun them in practice.

They don't seem to have noticed yet.

They also haven't noticed that their Democratic masters are busy replacing them with Mexicans, as blacks are no longer the largest minority group in the country.

Trooper York said...

People vote their self-interest.

Although when one of their own makes a break though it can change on the margins.

Those Catholics as Democrats hit a high water mark when Kennedy was elected. He was their standard bearer just as Obama is for blacks.

But circumstances brought them to the more conservative Republican party. Of course the Republican party got more conservative and less nativist over time.

The funny thing is a nativist anti-immigration party might appeal to blacks who have lost their jobs to Mexicans.

Trooper York said...

You will have to make a blatant appeal to them though. A populist, nativist blue collar party that savages the elites of both parties might have a lot of appeal.

Every man a king.

Trooper York said...

Now is the time to raise the black flag and go after the people who have made it their business to destroy the middle class. To tax them to death. To indoctrinate their children with liberal doctrine. To destroy their religion in favor of the politically correct protected class of the moment.

Regular people need a leader who will not be afraid to hammer the elites and their minions in the press and academia.

Trooper York said...

It would help he had a white horse. Just sayn'

Trooper York said...

Cowboys are still very popular.

It would be a perfect contrast to the rodeo clown in the White House.

Trooper York said...

Cowgirls would be fine too.

And a bet of a novelty just like having a black man.

I had thought that Sarah Palin would be perfect. I often think of her as taking the position of the Reverse Cowgirl. Just sayn'

Michael Haz said...

I think part of this has to do with the sell-out of Chicago Aldermen to gang leaders (see post on this topic a few weeks ago).

The aldermen are working against the interest of their non-gang constituents.

YoungHegelian said...

@Icepick,

They don't seem to have noticed yet.

Yeah, they have. A long time ago. White liberals think blacks love them & despise white conservatives. Not true. Blacks don't trust white people in general -- conservative or liberal. I've heard this over & over in personal conversation.

Also, remember where blacks came from --- the Jim Crow South. They developed an exquisite sense of what to say in front this or that white person. Or what never to say in front of white people at all. They know that what one says in church or at the barber shop about, e.g. evolution or gays, one doesn't say in public at the mayoral rally.

Icepick said...

Thank you for the lesson on black people, YoungHegelian. I will remember all that should I happen to encounter a black person at some point in my otherwise lily white existence.

ricpic said...

YoungHegelian said...

Blacks don't trust white people in general...

Hey, with me it's just the opposite.

But then, you're "evolved," YoungHegelian, and I'm not. Proudly so, I might add.

Sixty Grit said...

Were there not precincts in Philthadelpia that voted 104% for Obama?

But voter fraud is a myth, right?

And, regardless of any event in any city or with any group, remember, it's not who votes but who counts the votes that matters.

YoungHegelian said...

@ricpic,

But then, you're "evolved," YoungHegelian, and I'm not. Proudly so, I might add.

If you have some evidence from recent politics or personal experience to deny what I said, please feel free to bring it to our attention.

I'll say this to both you & Icepick: I'm sorry if I'm stepping on your cherished beliefs about the state of the black community. I just didn't realize I was supposed to be here to massage your egos. I thought we were having a conversation. I'll try to do better in the future.

edutcher said...

Heard about this.

Makes you proud to be an American.

deborah said...

Cool.

deborah said...

The new commenter over at A, Full Moon, made a blatantly racist comment. I think he's one of ours. Anyone care to 'fess up?

Unknown said...

I've always been puzzled by the blind faith within the democrat party. At some point, is anyone on top responsible for the misery and failures?

deborah said...

April, I'm hoping it's self-correcting.

YoungHegelian said...

@AA,

At some point, is anyone on top responsible for the misery and failures?

Yes, after they're forced into the wilderness by the voters for a while. In many "true blue" areas, that may be long in coming, if ever. Don't hold yer breath.

Unknown said...

That wilderness is waiting. and waiting...

Trooper York said...

Why would you say it is one of us little Debbie.

I know most of the hard core here have dropped that place and are not involved anymore.

Trooper York said...

Besides if we want to make racist statements we go to Crack's blog.

There if you say "Hello" it's racist. Makes it a lot easier for us lazy shiftless duck calling racist types.

Michael Haz said...

Not moi. Probably just a re-configured troll.

Is it still I Hate Straight Men week over there?

Unknown said...

I post as April App only. I'm stuck with it. oy.

Trooper York said...

I was hoping we could drop that joint since all of her lickspittles have left here. It's been great here lately.

You don't mention the devil if you don't want them to show up. Especially on Sunday night. Just saying.

deborah said...

"FullMoon said...
Why 'jamaboy always gonna be white? Black man doan get no 'surance?

12/19/13, 12:13 PM"

When I first saw FullMoon a few weeks ago at Althouse, he told a very Trooperesque joke about Mickey Mantle and swallowing. Then the above on the 19th. Someone's trying to look like you and someone else who posts here, or it's a complete coincidence. And I really don't care, just sayin'.

Icepick said...

YoungHegelian, I live a black neighborhood in the South. Your lectures are presumptuous, and wrong.

Trooper York said...

I have not been at that site in months. I have no doubt that someone is trying to cause trouble. Maybe even one of the proprietors. They love to stir the shit and then claim innocence.

I think we can agree not to care about what goes on there. It is none of my concern anymore.

Anonymous said...

I don't claim to understand blacks these days, if I ever did.

But as long as their families remain broken, the hip-hop culture reigns, and the Democratic Party incentivizes and subsidizes their victimology, I doubt they will shift from their current trajectory and voting patterns.

Longer-term, who knows. There are huge shifts ahead for everybody. When the US government really and truly runs out of other people's money, it's a whole new ball game.

deborah said...

Got it, Troop :)