It's ART !
And political statement besides. About Bush's failed economic policies. It is justified, how else is Jill going to reach people emotionally? Huh? Emotion. It's all about emotion. It's how children communicate about anything at all save for politics and its how emotional photographers loyal to Party uber alles communicate. And it's good stuff too. Who doesn't like seeing kids cry? You should see 'em at Slate.
And now it's in book form. How 'bout that?
Obviously this is not for low information voters. It is not even for no information voters. And not just for passive un information voters either. This is emotional manipulation by and for fierce anti information voters. And look over there how well it works.
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Hilarious that she justifies the photo shoots by explaining that the kids were really just throwing tantrums.
And that is her chosen metaphor for her feelings toward the Bush administration's ploicies.
Gee, by now, you'd think it was about all of the Choom Gang's failed policies.
"Hey kid, your Mommy's dead."
**tears**
...Psych!
Put them on crowded airplanes for the full effect.
MATS boarded families first and the kids spread out and contaminated the entire airplane.
The cabin pressure was reduced until they went to sleep.
speaking of crying - How dictators come to power in a democracy.
I'd seen these photos before. Interesting lighting and color, but would somebody really buy one and put it up in a corporate lobby or their living room?
Are there people who like to gaze upon artwork depicting a crying child every day?
Like Barney Fife: "Oh, boy, you're just full of fun today, aren't ya? Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps?
Kids like crying.
It's like women going to movies.
The fabrication of martyrs is the first order of biz in any political campaign.
Crying kids are the best martyrs.
Althouse (remember her?) has descended into this pit. She's busy fabricating gay martyrdom.
The most interesting facet of my Facebook page, where I have "friends" of every political persuasion, is that every political faction is frenetically fabricating martyrs.
True, Shouting.
St. Trayvon Martyr even has a relic, the Holy Hoodie.
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
"Consult the Book of Armaments!"
Of course it is how a certain blogger views her commentators...
I always hated when Lucy Arnaz would cry.
"You're an ugly crier, but that's okay."
I'm fed up with Althouse and her inane prattling about the martyrdom of the gays. She's ridiculous.
She might see her former commenters as cry babies.
I think the better explanation is that she and Meade are retreating into a fortress mentality the deeper she digs herself into this absurd gay mania.
The deeper they get into the fortress mentality, the more convinced they become that they're fighting off a horde of vengeful bigots intent on slaughtering the gays.
It's become a comedy.
I will drop a completely baseless conjecture here.
My experience is that, when people embark on one of these martyrdom campaigns over sexual issues (and I've seen a lot of that in Woodstock), those people are struggling with their own sexual demons.
My suspicion is that Althouse has something going on sexually that is leading her to this gay mania.
But, I'm just guessing.
Remember to purchase your Sexual Demons through the Amazon Portal.
What do you guys think Pope Francis will do about the gay lobby in the Curia?
What do you guys think Pope Francis will do about the gay lobby in the Curia?
Nothing.
"My experience is that, when people embark on one of these martyrdom campaigns over sexual issues (and I've seen a lot of that in Woodstock), those people are struggling with their own sexual demons.
My suspicion is that Althouse has something going on sexually that is leading her to this gay mania."
Along the path you are treading, I would have a different guess. I don't think it is sexual (or is everything, at the base of it, about sex?), but an attempt to further draw attention to herself, which, oh so ironically, I am feeding now.
On the other hand she may be acting out of repressed guilt that she raised a son who is gay. To be clear, I am not saying gayness is bad.
"What do you guys think Pope Francis will do about the gay lobby in the Curia?"
Go with muted tones.
Guilt plays a role.
As a step-father of a lesbian, let me tell you that the real concern is wanting grandchildren of your own blood.
Wanting progeny to carry on your line is one of the most powerful motivations of every animal.
The damage that Althouse doesn't foresee is what happens in the future after you shred the reciprocal obligation of children to their parents.
That reciprocal obligation is producing progeny of your own blood.
Althouse and Meade are at war with human nature.
Meade keeps a very close watch here, doesn't he?
He's a white knight who never fails to mount his white stallion and ride off to the rescue of the damsel in distress.
Shouting Thomas said...
I will drop a completely baseless conjecture here.
My experience is that, when people embark on one of these martyrdom campaigns over sexual issues (and I've seen a lot of that in Woodstock), those people are struggling with their own sexual demons.
My suspicion is that Althouse has something going on sexually that is leading her to this gay mania.
But, I'm just guessing.
Look up some of the effects of anosmia.
Cry, cry baby.
I'll humor Althouse and Meade (who are watching very closely) a bit more.
Pretty funny that feminist Althouse is now entrenched in this old fashioned love affair between the Damsel in Distress and the White Knight, isn't it?
The feminist bullshit is falling apart bit by bit as she realizes that traditional roles work and the intellectual bullshit doesn't.
Althouse is incredibly hard headed. She's going through the same idiot routine with the gay shit that she went through with feminism.
She probably won't live long enough to give up this crap as she discovers incrementally that her intellect doesn't define the world and that her plans to remake gaydom and the bigots don't make a damned bit of sense in light of actual human experience.
In other words, the old human customs in regard to gaydom work.
Oh, intellectual bullshit works, in that it is effective when used as a basis for coercion, but in the long run it fails because it is not sustainable.
E.g., communism worked, until it didn't.
Detroit's blue state model based on unions and racism worked, until it didn't.
Althouse made Meade cry.
Bad cry Meade.
ST:
"He's a white knight who never fails to mount his white stallion and ride off to the rescue of the damsel in distress."
Meh. I think the motives are in relation to Althouse's blogger success. He's here to stir the shit.
Gee, by now, you'd think it was about all of the Choom Gang's failed policies.
You're not allowed to do that. I mean, you're just not supposed to notice that there are five million fewer full time jobs now than there were a few years ago. That's very bad form, and probably means that you are George Zimmerman.
Reasons My Son Is Crying
ST:
"The damage that Althouse doesn't foresee is what happens in the future after you shred the reciprocal obligation of children to their parents."
The seeds of Western civilization contain their own destruction.
"All rage is the result of a narcissistic injury."
@April Apple
How dictators come to power.
Well it seems that Forbes is a bit late to the party. Here is a post on those very thoughts that my husband did in 2009
Hitler the early years He tried to warn. No one would listen. I did the same in an early post on my blog Dr. Utopia and our Grim Future.
Being aware of what is going on is sometimes very painful. Being able to say I/We told you so, provides no satisfaction.
Can we move on from griping about TOP?
Somewhere Aroid is crying.
Frankly, we sound a bit whiny.
There there.
Not whining, Winning!
#CharlieSheen
Phil 3:14 said -
Frankly, we sound a bit whiny
I say -
AMEN!
@ Phil
I second that. Leave the topic of the other blog alone. Ignore Meade unless he has something to contribute to the conversation.....which basically means, ignore.
Move on. There is a whole wide world of topics, issues and REAL things happening that will affect all of us. Plus....there is the topic of food!!!
@DBQ: "Being aware of what is going on is sometimes very painful. Being able to say I/We told you so, provides no satisfaction."
It's even more painful when half the nation denies anything is even 'going on' at all.
EDIT:
I posted the link about rage in response to Freeman Hunt's link.
Her link shows photos that are funny and heart-melting about little kids crying over nothing.
But the art photos in this post show pretty much the same thing (except in being staged), yet I was filled with rage against the artist.
Why did I react that way?
From the same author of my link:
"When you find yourself hating someone (who did not directly hurt you) with blinding rage, know for certain that it is not the person you hate at all, but rather something about them that threatens your identity. Find that thing. This single piece of advice can turn your life around, I guarantee it."
Freeman, that is funny, yet I felt a little guilty laughing. Occasionally my son would launch into crying with what I thought of as his 'black little rain cloud face.' It was adorable and sad at the same time. I took a picture of it once for memory's sake.
Back to the topic at hand. I am filled with disgust at the photographer and MORE at the parents who would purposely put their children into an emotionally abusive situation. Parents are supposed to protect their children from hurt, not purposely inflict it.
If it were any other situation, other than a bunch of progressives making political use of their children, it would be child abuse. Think of those children who are press ganged into attending protests and carrying signs that fulfilled their parent's ideology. It only seems to be considered child abuse if they are anything other than liberal/progressives.
I am disgusted with anyone who would think that it is alright to harm children for a political propaganda opportunity.
What is wrong with these people and how can we get rid of them?
What in the hell does TOP stand for?
For me, the difference was the staging of emotional harm coupled with the 'pain is beautiful' concept that made me angry, even sickened.
TOP = The Other Place.
In order not to bring Mr. McGregor from his garden.
Shouting Thomas said...
What in the hell does TOP stand for?
The Other/Old Place.
Partly to keep the nastier trolls away.
PS I think Phil's right
WWLD
Regarding Freeman's link. Somehow the photos of those children are much different than the ones in the book.
Every parent has to deal with the crying and tantrums. My daughter used to try that at the age of 3. No cookie until after lunch......Waaah....throw herself on the kitchen floor in grand histrionic style. My response was the one my mother told me that she used when I was doing the same thing. Walk over the kicking screaming child. Go sit in another room and look at a magazine or do something else. When she would follow me into the living room and flop down there for more tantrum (tantrums are really only good is someone is watching), get up and go into another room. Don't say anything....ignore it. Eventually, she would get worn out and I would ask ...."Are you done now?...>Good....You can have a cookie AFTER lunch." Kiss her on her wet slimy cheek and continue with what I was doing in the first place. Sometimes it was really hard to keep a straight face and not laugh at the over the top acting and histrionics.
That is totally different that provoking a tantrum.
"That is totally different that provoking a tantrum."
Exactly. Hence my disgust at the tactic.
It reminds me of the debate over using German medical data from WW2 in which Jewish prisoners were drowned, etc, and their vital signs and other data were recorded.
Forced behavior + photography = Art
Forced behavior + lab data = Science.
I am disgusted with anyone who would think that it is alright to harm children for a political propaganda opportunity.
I doubt the kids are being harmed. If, say, the pictures were taken from Freeman's link would it be any less execrable?
In terms of the exploitation, I say it isn't the children who are being exploited, but parents. That's what is disgusting.
WAAAAAA!
*steps over crying Larry, walks into another room*
WWWWAAAAAA!!!!!
*picks up magazine, reads latest Hollywood news*
WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
SMACK! NOW STFU!!!
Pogo ... serious question: is it odd or unusual that I separate "rage" from "hate" almost entirely?
I can express "rage" verbally and physically, but if I truly hate someone or thing I am silent...until I can be shed of them or it. I find the "acknowledgement" inherent in the act of hating to be a reward to the hated, therefore pointless and contradictory.
Beyond that, it takes to much energy to hate.
I do have grandkids now, DBQ. From my other kids.
Thanks for the advice on dealing with tantrums.
I'm gonna need it. I'm the go to guy for babysitting.
That is totally different that provoking a tantrum.
So it seems you see value in prolonging a tantrum rather than giving into it. But maybe you did provoke the tantrum in the first place by giving the first cookie. And isn't it a good lesson your daughter learned?
Shouting Thomas said...
" I'm the go to guy for babysitting."
Before hiring ST as babysitter, any decent parent would want to be informed of his comments here.
"I am disgusted with anyone who would think that it is alright to harm children for a political propaganda opportunity."
I doubt the kids are being harmed. If, say, the pictures were taken from Freeman's link would it be any less execrable?
Of course they are being harmed. The parents are breaking the basic fundamental law of being a parent. TRUST. The children trust that you are going to take care of them and will learn eventually that those things that you do, such as not let them eat sunscreen from Freeman's link, are for their best interests.
TRUST is broken when your parents purposely put you into an emotionally distressing state not for your own good, but for no reason at all that the child can discern. TRUST is broken when your parents purposely or even accidentally allow you to be in an abusive situation.
The difference between Freeman's link and the propaganda photos is miles apart.
Harm doesn't always mean bruises.
@Aridog:
Hate is the most intense form of rage.
Rage -like truth- will out, will be expressed. Hate unexpressed festers until it is somehow dissipated. For you, "until [you] can be shed of them or it."
You've found a way not to let it rot you from the inside. I still have trouble with that part, though. Hence my blackened heart.
So it seems you see value in prolonging a tantrum rather than giving into it.
Not at all. The lesson learned is that you DO NOT GET YOUR WAY by throwing tantrums.
I take it that you don't have children.
"TRUST is broken when your parents purposely or even accidentally allow you to be in an abusive situation."
This crucial fact ends up costing a shitload in doctor bills, psych appointments, and meds.
Dante, DBQ is describing classic behavior extinction.
It is much more successful than 'giving in' in producing solid adults.
Before hiring ST as babysitter, any decent parent would want to be informed of his comments here.
As Larry informed me yesterday, we all live under the moral imperative of agreeing with his gay politics, or we are very bad people who want to murder gays.
I have my own theory, Larry.
People who disagree with my politics are child molesters.
So, the question is... how often do you molest children?
Had he ever attended college I am sure that Penn State would have been his favorite place.
@ Pogo
Yes. Extinction of the behavior. Sometimes instead of having a tantrum evolve, I would move us out into another situation. Get out of the kitchen....and "Hey. Let's go see what the bunnies are doing in the back yard!" (We raised rabbits for a while) "Sniff .....Ok, Mommy Nip the situation in the bud, so to speak.
The tantrum phase really didn't last all that long. In my case just a few months. They key is to not reward the bad behavior and NOT punish it either.
Perfect. I remember asking my kids to help me "fix" something. Usually worked.
Especially if it involved hammers.
Not at all. The lesson learned is that you DO NOT GET YOUR WAY by throwing tantrums.
I take it that you don't have children.
I do have children, DBQ, including one kid who had a very hard time getting out of the "madder-sadder" emotional state from feelings of injustice. It took a lot of work to deal with that, including helping him to intellectually understand what was going on and that it was important for him to be able to get away from those emotions.
Anyway, I don't think you really disagree with what I wrote. You saw value in prolonging the tantrum in order to teach the kid that tantrums don't get you what you want.
Who knows, maybe some subconscious part of you gave the first cookie knowing it would cause a tantrum, so you could make the point.
The only time I can recall intentionally making my children cry is when they disobeyed and ran into the street in front of our home. while it's a 25, cars exceed 40Mph, so I had to spank two of the three.
I figured I could live with the psychological damage to their egos if it kept them alive.
Anyway, I don't think you really disagree with what I wrote. You saw value in prolonging the tantrum in order to teach the kid that tantrums don't get you what you want.
We do agree.
:-D
In my opinion, posting to the internet photos of or other information about children who have no way of consenting is disrespectful of the child, bordering on abuse.
You ought to know about abuse, Meade.
You disagree with my political opinions.
So you must be molesting children on a grand scale.
Everybody who disagrees with my political opinion is a child molester.
Probably a Nazi, too.
Pogo said...
@Aridog: Hate is the most intense form of rage ... You've found a way not to let it rot you from the inside.
Thanks for the answer. Yes, I think I have found a way. I convert what could be hate in to disgust. Abject disgust in some cases.
Not to mention KKK.
Does Althouse iron your sheets or do you do it yourself?
Here you go, Larry.
Here's something for you to read.
Good article, ST.
Can't someone get a net and scoop up the baby ruth floating in the pool?
Good morning, ST.
ST ... What Pogo said.
Can we stop talking about Althouse yet, or is there more angsty angst to somehow get out that has to prove a point to the internets.
The genesis of my article was an earlier story written by Brian Hollander, the editor of the Woodstock Times.
He covered a Tea Party meeting in Accord, a small town about 30 miles south of Woodstock. Based on nothing that I could ferret out of his article, he concluded that the Tea Party was just a proxy for the KKK and that the residents of Accord were just getting ready to string blacks up from the lamp posts.
Brian is also a musician who I run into from time to time.
When I saw him, I told him that his article was a repugnant slander of the people who live in small town America.
He gave me the opportunity to respond as I saw fit, and the article is my response.
Very nice, ST. Yes, "What is important is having a good time together when we can be together."
*spoiler* Toward the end of Thornton Wilder's play Our Town, the young, newly married girl of the family dies, but doesn't realize it at first. She comes to the kitchen where her mother is cooking, and starts to talk to her, but her mother can't see her. She finally realizes she's dead, and watches her family interact through the next couple of minutes. Finally she cries out (paraphrase) Why aren't you looking at each other? Why don't you see each other?
Two words - grape juice.
Has everyone forgotten Greenberg's McCain photos?
We should ban cars! And boardwalks!
...the real concern is wanting grandchildren of your own blood.
BINGO! It's eating Althouse alive that her queer son won't give her a grandchild. Of course never in a million years would she admit to being like the rest of the human race, ya know, all those peasants, and wanting her line to continue. But it's killing her.
Lautreamont needs a NYT op ed column.
Maldoror perceives that inside his youthful interlocutor's head the blood boils: the nostrils flare, lips froth forth a fine white spray. He takes the boy's pulse: its beat races. Fever has overtaken the frail frame. Maldoror fears the consequences of his words. He makes himself scarce--the wretch--vexed at not being able to converse longer with this child. When in maturity it is so difficult to master the passions, balanced between good and evil, what about a mind still brimming with inexperience? And what relative amount of energy does it further require? The child will get off with three days' stay in bed. Heaven grant that maternal care may bring peace to this sensitive flower, fragile envelope of a fine soul!
Oh come on, ric, you can't do much worse.
Put your bigotry into some verse!
Ricpic, you do realize there's more than one way to skin a cat?
The hypocrisy, it burns!
Earlier today the broke-ass lawn boy, was mocking someone he disagrees with by posting a picture of a man dressed as a ballerina.
So you hate cross dressers, but don't mind that your "wife's" offspring allegedly turns tricks in West Hollywood. Your high horse seems to be a bit sway-backed, you inconsistent feminist grifter.
Get back to edging, will you?
Meade, the pasty white faced boy finds a way to make upper middle class white boys into victims of bigotry.
Meade, you're a doofus.
Are you a victim of bigotry too, white boy Larry?
Lord knows the suffering you've seen!
Right?
This stuff will never end Paddy as much as you might like it to be over. Leisure Suit Larry has to come over her to stir it up to keep his meal tickets blog relevant. If the many talented commenters who are posting and commenting here find a home and don't go back their numbers will get even worse. So while Mommy's away teaching summer school Little Larry can jump on the computer. He will stop when she gets home and won't start again until late tonight when she collapses in an
alcoholic stupor.
You will notice that most of your posts are a lot of fun and even the bitterest of adversaries at TOP can joke an laugh and have a good time without acrimony. There is one common denominator in all of those posts.
The absence of Leisure Suit Larry.
That would solve your problem.
deborah - If I understand your question correctly there's still the reality that a grandchild by way of her son adopting would still not be her biological grandchild.
Wanting a biological grandchild is bigotry!
Larry says so.
And, if you don't agree with Larry, you're a Nazi!
Now that upper middle class white boys born to professional parents can be victims of bigotry.
Who's left to do the bigot-ing?
Perhaps the plan is as follows:
1. Sodomize strangers in West Hollywood
2. ???
3. Grandchildren!
Eh. Some of AA's "gay-martyrdom" posts were over-the-top, yes.
And yes, the red bird is consistently obnoxious. I know you want to push back. And he deserves it (though since it's also what he wants, I myself resist engaging anymore, prefer to ignore).
But some of the comments about AA's children are offputting too. Why go there?
To paraphrase Nietzsche, be careful when you fight trolls, lest you become one.
Her son's sperm could impregnate a surrogate mother.
Trooper,
It's not just Meade. At a certain point, if every thread devolves into putting them in their place, every thread just loses any sense of fun. We move back into the predictable and boring. And I drift to more interesting places.
At a certain point, the say has been said. Keeping the drama going has a cathartic quality for a little while, but as it keeps up really just proves their point again and again. You do realize that Meade is baiting you, right?
In the responses, on whatever the particular argument might happen to be, the real goal is to provoke and watch the ensuing dance.
And that was a good article, ST!
Pointing towards the better is a better argument, I think, then pointing out the corruption of the worse. The latter needs to be done, to a certain point, but after a while it's just nagging, and people stop listening.
"some of the comments about AA's children are offputting"
Laudable display of humanity by yashu. Takes some courage.
Yes, Paddy, some really good things are happening in this world, but people don't seem to care to spend much time on that.
Bitching and complaining seems to win every time.
I admire Chuck Gomez, the owner of the Watseka Theatre, for doing what nobody else saw as a possibility. He's done a beautiful thing.
My hero Richard Nixon said:
“Always remember, others may hate you. But those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.”
As much as Leisure Suit Larry and the Tippling Termagent might enrage you it would be best to leave the rest of the family out of it. Their road will be hard enough as it is. After their mothers estate is looted they will understand. Why not show some mercy?
Christ, Trooper, I ceased being outraged about much of anything long ago.
I've buried two wives. Takes a lot to really get me pissed.
I don't really hate anybody, although my rhetoric may sometimes lead people to believe otherwise.
I just learned long ago that, when dealing with the moron world savers and people fixer uppers, the only thing to do is to give them the same damned shit they dish out.
Fair enough Paddy. But a hammer sees every problem as a nail.
You will note that only one person poses this problem. Other bitter adversaries have found accommodation here without dispute.
Also every time a new poster finds his way here they have to get it out of their system. Shouting has just started posting here. Give it time. Perhaps we can all learn to ignore the provocations of LSL.
I hear you Shouting. But you are talking to the wall with them. It feels good to smack them around but what is the point.
The people who set up this site are trying to do something good here. Leisure Suit Larry is only here to disrupt it. Genial contempt is all he is due.
I enjoyed your article. It made me think.
" I hate to have to say this, but... Go fuck yourself. You're an obnoxious, sanctimonious piece of shit."
- Shouting Stephen Thomas, go-to babysitter, inc.
ST, Chill out. If you take the time to read the comments here you'll see everyone has left your brand of in your face, profane, comments over @ TOP. If you are capable, just stop the over the top stuff.
Gotta work on some songs.
The issue of Althouse's offspring is a bit more complicated than as presented.
She's using him for propaganda purposes.
You wanna know what pisses me off?
You've got the green light, and you want to go straight, but traffic's backed up so you stay out of the intersection so you don't block the box.
Then some asshole with the red light makes a right on red and he blocks the box and makes you his bitch at the same time.
Yeah, that's what pisses me off!
That's true. But that is a problem for TOP and the toadys and sycophants who choose to go there.
Let them wallow in that stuff. This should be a refuge from those damaged people. Just sayn'
Wow. S.T. must not have gotten the message yet. This place is not toxic, dontcha know?
I'll give it a break, Trooper.
I stopped commenting at TOP about six months before the shit fit.
I could see it coming.
Mostly, however, I got fed up with having my day and my thoughts directed toward stupid, fabricated controversy.
That's great ST. There are a lot of fun topics here and your voice would be welcomed. Someone with your breath of experience in the real world is always welcome. At least to me.
Plus you are as funny as shit.
But not in a gay way. Just sayn'
Not that I have anything to say about how things are run around here.
But I think the guys that run it here are the real "good faith" commenters. So I hope this joint will be a big success.
Ah, geez, who would put their children into these positions where they are being deliberately harmed by making them cry? Then to come and find out that their imagery would be used to make a political point? Crying is an emotion that displays distress. You can have tears of happiness, but that is primarily an adult display because children are fairly black and white in their emotional expression.
Answer: Leftists.
Riiiighhht.
I have to admit it. I love it when the shit flies around here.
I bet Meade and Althouse would much rather see the shit fly here than at their place, I can't blame them. It takes a while to hose down the hippo pool.
Althouse desperately needs to take a vacation for a few weeks or a couple of months and get the hell away from the dug in fortress she's created.
I won't judge their marriage, but I can see that being in this together is intensifying their feeling of being under siege.
And, feeling under siege only confirms that they are living in a world of crazy bigots who want to do somebody harm.
Take a vacation, Althouse! Give it up for a while. Go somewhere! Drink yourself stupid and get laid!
Grifters always make it an us against them scenario. They have to be the protectors and the saviors where everyone else is taking advantage of them. So if there is not an enemy to attack then they have to create one to take the eyes away from what they are doing.
I could only suggest that the family consult with an elder law attorney who is experienced in dealing with the ramifications of unscrupulous opportunists that take advantage of lonely elderly spinsters. This way the assets might be preserved for the declining years in way that allows dignity to be preserved.
"Althouse desperately needs to take a vacation for a few weeks or a couple of months and get the hell away from the dug in fortress she's created. I won't judge their marriage, but I can see that being in this together is intensifying their feeling of being under siege. And, feeling under siege only confirms that they are living in a world of crazy bigots who want to do somebody harm. Take a vacation, Althouse! Give it up for a while. Go somewhere! Drink yourself stupid and get laid!"
Ha! 8 assumptions. 1 promise. 2 assertions. 6 judgements. All of them wrong.
You have to laugh.
I watched a great movie over that was close to the subject, Trooper.
It's called "Intolerable Cruelty."
You are assuming a fact that is not in evidence.
Intolerable Cruelty was hilarious.
George Clooney (of all people) plays a lawyer who's specialty is assisting beautiful young women meet, marry and divorce the wealthy ex-husband of their dreams.
Dear Lemulites:
Stop taking the fucking bait.
Yours for a better tomorrow,
Haz
@Michael,
Didn't I just do that?
You are watching it again Shouting. Just with ugly people.
I think we might be better off just averting our eyes.
It is just so sad and sordid.
You just have to learn to ignore certain things whenever they show up on the blogs of your choice. A much better outcome will ensue.
Two decades ago, I worked for a corporate law firm.
Not knowing when or how to chuck it all and stop working is a common affliction of ambitious lawyers.
LMAO! Poo flingers are sad at their own sordid behavior.
It is to laugh, truly.
I have been watching this old TV show called "The Guardian" with that Assuie dude who plays 'The Mentalist" now.
It is about a lawyer who got caught using cocaine and had to do 1000 hours of community service at a legal clinic because his dad (Dabney Coleman) fixed it for him.
It is pretty interesting and really shows the dynamics of a big time law firm which in the show is based in Pittsburgh. Or at least how most of us imagine how a law firm works.
A big law firm is a gigantic S&M machine.
Everybody who works in one of those joints hates it except for the few managing partners who were born lawyers.
When the lawyers are young and fresh out of law school, they all declare that they're going to make their fortune in a few years and get the hell out.
I saw one guy actually do that.
The rest just beat themselves into the ground with overwork and stress, go through several marriages and patronize high priced whores.
"I could only suggest that the family consult with an elder law attorney who is experienced in dealing with..."
Plus one suggestion from an amoral pious narcissistic failed tv reality show star who had to take his blog private so as not to embarass his tv business associates. Buffoonery beyond belief.
This show really shows that. The interesting thing is they show how the founder of the firm always favors his son even though he is a gigantic screw up. It also shows how venal lawyers are when they take cases that should be beyond the pale for most decent people.
In one episode the firm wants to get the business from this coal mine so they go around paying off all the people in a small town to get medical waivers so they won't sue when they get cancer.
It just really shows you what lawyers are really like in real life.
On the other hand the lawyers at the legal clinic are muddle headed leftist who screw up family after family.
It is surprisingly honest for a mainstream prime time soap.
Folks, Regarding the toxic duo, please remember Frank Costanza, "SERENITY NOW..SERENITY NOW." You'll maybe laugh a bit and just ignore the drivel.
What you have to remember about really ambitious lawyers (most of them, at least) is that they are the worlds most dutiful and compulsively driven school children.
To make it in the elite law firms, you've got graduate in the #1 or #2 slot in your high school class, graduate in the top 5% of Harvard, Yale, Chicago or Stanford, then work 20 hour days for 7 years to make partner.
This leaves very little room for any personal development.
Another interesting thing about the show is that something bad happens to every character. I mean unremittingly bad. One gets murder by a client of the legal clinic. Another gets Lou Gehrig's disease. Another gets Aids. The female lead gets knocked up by the Mentalist guy but finds out she is having a Downs syndrome Baby on a night she finds out that he was out banging some other chick. It is just one bad thing after another.
And, Trooper, a con artist can't con a person who doesn't want to be conned.
Somehow it makes becoming a lawyer seem even worse than you can imagine it to be.
The same dude that did this show is doing the new Headless Horseman show which looks like it will be really cool.
My cousin literally ran away to join the circus. He was a roustabout on a carney that traveled through the South for about five years. He filled us all in on a lot of these scams. Plus I saw many of them pulled on the old people who owned brownstones here in Brooklyn when their kids hated them and moved away. So it is all too familiar. I think it is best to look away.
Witty is good, this is just silly and boring.
From a 2011 interview with Jill Greenberg:
Interviewer: You’ve experienced some high-profile controversies with your Crying Children series (Greenberg was publicly criticized for taking candy away from some of the young subjects to make them cry for the portraits) and John McCain images (Greenberg posted digitally altered images of the Republican presidential candidate on her site after photographing him for The Atlantic). Do you think those controversies hurt or help your brand?
Greenberg: When controversy creates a lot of press it can be good, but it can be bad too. The crying kids thing came and went. With McCain, I think I sort of forgot there are actually Republican people working in the entertainment or advertising world. I think people took it the wrong way, but a lot of clients loved it. They credit me with Obama winning. Whatever works.
See, Greenberg loses no sleep over the kids, or anything else. Whatever works, that’s the ticket. Sort of makes a nice companion piece with Hillary’s “at this point, what difference does it make.”
Also love that “I sort of forgot there are actually Republican people working in the entertainment or advertising world.”
Also love that “I sort of forgot there are actually Republican people working in the entertainment or advertising world.”
A Republican, in the terms of that world, is anybody who isn't a Democrat, or who doesn't toe the line on any issue that can be shouted down with the "bigot" shit. (What issues aren't bigot issues these days?)
In Woodstock, it is common when musicians and artist meet for one or both to subject the other to a political litmus test through what appears to be casual conversation.
I don't care because there really isn't any money to be made in Woodstock. So, I just tell the testers straight out to shove it, or if I'm in a good mood, I'll just say that I won't talk politics.
See, Greenberg loses no sleep over the kids, or anything else. Whatever works, that’s the ticket. Sort of makes a nice companion piece with Hillary’s “at this point, what difference does it make.”
Since the purported Republican enemy is thought to be demonically possessed, any kind of vicious, deceptive and corrupt behavior is justified.
After all, it's your moral duty to destroy the bigots.
Tell us more about these mood shifts of yours. Are they treatable?
yashu said...
And yes, the red bird is consistently obnoxious. I know you want to push back ... it's also what he wants ...
Trooper York said...
Leisure Suit Larry is only here to disrupt it...
Well said. Laurence isn't worth noticing let alone responding to ... let him howl down an empty corridor.
Trooper York's "grifter" behavior description is on the money as far as Laurence is concerned. I no longer have a clue of what Ann's all about and don't care anymore than she does about me. I have some experience dealing with grifters where I live in fact. The have no leverage if you pay them little mind and just watch them without joining them in a verbal fray. In short, you have to watch them or they will wreck your shit or steal it...no need to converse.
I know I am going to try to not mention TOP again, unless it is linked to with intelligent commentary by a contributor or another commenter. Even then I might just skip it.
WC: 176 [Damn!!]
I feel this discussion has become meta, for want of a better word. Our online personas are fighting, not our actual selves. Right?
Shouting Thomas said...
And, Trooper, a con artist can't con a person who doesn't want to be conned.
Perhaps. But they can use distraction and dissembling to set a trap that catches decent but unwary people. The love to provoke so that they don't have to perform. They can and have caused good people to go to jail, just for the attention it got them.
My mood swings seem to be generally related to how well I do at guitar tuning on any particular day.
Guitar tuning is a surprising intricate job. A lot of guys like the mechanical tuners, and I use them, particularly when I'm working with a loud band because you can't hear yourself on stage with all that noise going on.
You really have to do it by ear to do it right.
When guitar tuning goes well, rehearsal goes well, and I'm in a good mood.
I also suggest certain strains of 420!
Shouting - Did you know Levon Helm, late of Woodstock?
Trooper, at least your cousin wasn't Italian.
"I also suggest certain strains of 420! "
Ah. I'll bet you do.
Worked with The Band and did opening acts for them.
I was much closer to Rick Danko than to Levon.
I've played Levon's CD Dirt Farmer more times than I can count. Wish I'd gotten to Woodstock for a Midnight Ramble before Levon passed.
Midnight Ramble is still going on.
Maria Muldaur last weekend.
Meade said...
Tell us more about these mood shifts of yours. Are they treatable?
Are yours? I get that you find it funny, like a little girl, to come back whenever you hear the dog whistle of your google alerts popping off, but don't you tired of the envy and jealousy you so badly hide under the exterior of your posts? Oh, you don't have to project them, but they can clearly be seen. I suppose you are like those people who think they are clever by half and that you know something no one else knows, but you know what? You don't.
deborah said...
I feel this discussion has become meta, for want of a better word. Our online personas are fighting, not our actual selves. Right?
Persona, per-sauna, tomatoe, tow-ma-tow.
the phone wasn't even plugged in...
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