Humbled by the love with which you have treated each of our posters and me. Thanking us for what we are trying to do; to provide a place where we can comment on whatever we want. I'm reluctantly, but resolutely asking one thing.
Some of you, a very small number of you, are still bashing Althouse. We are asking you to please stop. We like Althouse, we have always liked Althouse and that is not going to change.
We need to move on.
We are going to be respectfully linking to her, as we link to other bloggers. Naturally, we are probably going to be linking to her more often than other bloggers.
The comments of those posts that link to her, should not be taken as opportunity to bash her. If you feel you still have something to say to her, email her. But please don't continue to bash her here.
Thanks for your emailed posts ideas and for your continued support.
Level42 - Lessons In Love
It took me a long while to "write" that up there.
Lets say you were Althouse, how would you correct that "writing" up there?
Please don't deviate from the main point. The main point being, please stop bashing Althouse.
Of course, you don't have to help me with the writing, if you don't want to.
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Fish Creek, WI
Trout Lake, WA.
Trout Lake, WA Sounds Like a Good Location for a Lesbian Hot Dog Stand.
Betamax: Or a taco stand.
Again, I have to copy Rabel and Bagoh20;
Your place, your rules.
Hopefully, I won't have to pay either of them commissions for plagiarism over the last couple days.
Damnit...now I have to copy EBL, too...e.g., it really is time to move on.
That said, I am grateful to learn that I'm one of the great unwashed illiterati who never read the Althouse posts, or links, and just ran off at the mouth. Had I known I could do that it would have been so much easier. Oh, and that I'm part of the niggardly crowd whose cheap ass support for Althouse, and now Lem, isn't worthy.
Frankly, Lesbian hot dog stands sound more interesting...but saying that might get me called out for being a woman by the local roving critic. Pshaw.
I'm mostly an observer, having delurked only a short time before the diaspora.
Maybe that gives me a certain perspective (or not, so feel free to ignore me if you wish.)
But FWIW I see both sides. I think Althouse and Meade were justified in shutting down comments, though justification isn't really required anyway. There clearly was a history of much positive interaction that has led to hurt feelings all around. There was something particularly nasty that went down from a particular commenter, which served as a final straw, but other grievances have been aired as well so that resentments have been stoked. Now commenters feel that they weren't appreciated and Althouse in turn feels that the commenters had made themselves the focus instead of her writing.
iOW, I respect the decision that Althouse made but not really the way it was handled, I can feel that disrespect without animosity because it's all simply humans being human.
But I do think Meade should recognize that this isn't like your buddy who just got dumped and you can tell him to shake it off. It's like the buddy was just dumped by your sister and your advice to get over it comes across as scolding for hurting your sister instead of just helpful guy advice about moving on.
Well, I'll say my piece about the whole Althouse blog comments issue and move on.
I am put off by the suggestion, by Meade, that the commenters on her blog didn't appreciate her blog. That seemed a bit sweeping; I hope not meant to be.
I read a number of her posts; no, not all. I wasn't aware that a good guest had to do that.
And an earlier comment about Professor Althouse being better off without commenters. OK; perhaps so. That struck me as kind of rude. But commenters are readers. And, to use the analogy Meade offered, they are guests.
Obviously some guests behaved badly. I am sorry to see it. I don't believe I was one of them. If I was, I'd like to have that one explained to me, so I can learn from my mistakes--but I honestly don't see how I was.
And, once again, I appreciate Professor Althouse's blog, always did.
Finally, I am fascinated by the drama. Someone else can cue the right video clip--but the reactions remind me of movie scenes with the stereotypical psycho girlfriend reacting to, whatever. I.e., overreacting.
I was glad to hang out in Professor Althouse's cyber-living room when the opportunity presented itself. Thanks!
The dude abides.
Damnit...now I have to copy EBL, too...e.g., it really is time to move on.
I welcome your comments!
Althouse without Betamax3000 is Like Lucky Charms without Marshmellows. Or Maybe Just the Yellow Star Ones.
Then on Wiki I See that the Yellow Moons were Phased Out in 1994. So All of This Was Preordained in Toasted Oats.
Should have read:
Althouse without Betamax3000 is Like Lucky Charms without Marshmellows. Or Maybe Just the Yellow Moon Ones.
Then on Wiki I See that the Yellow Moons were Phased Out in 1994. So All of This Was Preordained in Toasted Oats.
Precision is Important.
Meade said...
She is not burned out. The exact opposite is true.
My comment was in response to rc, but it was also my own feeling beforehand.
It's not a shot, just what I think happened. If she's feeling happier now, good for her.
I have no fight with either of you - although I was nettled at the manner in which comments were turned off.
We deserved better from her.
PS Your suggestion about the fixing up the border of our driveway is coming along.
Thanks.
I think a lot of folks would be all too happy to "move on," but then they get hit with all sorts of stuff, when they are trying to do so, which prompts a response.
most Althouse commenters did not read Athouse. . . . they weren't there to read her blog posts
Here on display is a continuation of the attack, attack mode. It's everyone else's fault -- it is especially the commenters fault. Here is the old not-so-sage adage, the customer is always wrong. If the product is no longer of good quality, then that is the customers' fault, not the fault of the producer of the poor product.
But in AA's case, it is actually erroneous. The problem is that people did, in fact, read her posts -- or at least a good portion of them, before they got to some section that was complete crap.
As such, in the last few months, many people (OK, at least one person -- me) spent less and less time actually offering real comments and more and more time having to give rebuttals and corrections and note objections to the increasing level of crap, with a corresponding increase in more of the latter of the usual passive-aggressive tone that was often present.
And even here it continues. Yesterday many were all too content to offer comments, have a discussion on things like Helen Thomas, her reputation, state of her soul, etc., and other topics, none of which included any reference to Althouse, much less bashed her, but then we were treated to a repeat of her "losers" taunt from some guy who comes over here to tell Lem how to run his place, all while claiming the right to run their place as they see fit.
Really, it was all much more pleasant without this intrusion and reignition of the late unpleasantness. And it has already driven Crack away. Better just to let it go - let her and her boy go - and live life without them defining yours.
commenters are readers. And, to use the analogy Meade offered, they are guests
If I may speak to this just briefly. Yes, a blog is to a certain extent a person's "house," and the people who come are "guests," so if you don't like it, don't come over and don't insult the host. That is true to a certain extent.
But it is also true that that house is visible to the people passing by on the street. And when not only objectionable things can be seen going on in the house, put purposely on display for all the world to see, but then the owners of the house start flinging their excrement out onto the people on the sidewalk and street, then the people from the outside are only all too right in going to the owners and telling them to stop with their crap.
The flinging of shit is the invitation to respond. If the hosts, the owners of the blog house, don't want to be bashed, then they should keep their crap within the privacy of their home, and not expose it to all the world via the Internet.
Bender:
"but then we were treated to a repeat of her "losers" taunt from some guy who comes over here to tell Lem how to run his place, all while claiming the right to run their place as they see fit."
I'd submit that it started when Lem posted a new 'rule' suggesting that people not say mean things about AA. This seems to have stirred up some feelings before L. Meade showed up. I'm not sure if L. Meade showed up because AA was mentioned or not--I tend to think he was.
I also think, if Lem really doesn't want people to say anything about AA one way or another (which is going to be hard, since even Freeman Hunt says 'we can go over there and read posts and come here to talk about the posts') he should maybe not try to install a rule (or suggestion) about what people should say regarding AA. Just let it go--if that's really what's wanted, let it go.
Otherwise--Crack is quite correct (and I think Bags had it right also, and was first when he suggested this was going to be like observing the Geneva Convention while fighting terrorists).
Me? I got sucked into the vortex and didn't like the way I reacted to it. I don't have the personality that some of our more evolved friends have--especially Lem and Palladian. I tend to react badly to certain stimuli. It's very complicated. I'm sure my mother is at fault somehow.
My solution was to stop paying attention to Althouse, then this happened and I admit, I've been interested in this grand experiment over here (one of my degrees is Anthropology).
Padre is a Big Lebowski fan! I knew there was some rebel in those robes.
I was watching a rerun of "The Big Bang Theory" the other night.
It was the one where the girl neighbor across the hallway was feeling low because all the guys she's ever dated turned out to be macho assholes.
She resolves to do something about it, change her life, and she starts dating that unassuming guy who wears the glasses.
It was played for laughs.
To appreciate the Althouse/Meade dynamic one only needs to look to Shakespeare or Nixon.
Or, A Few Good Men. "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"
I think the point is life goes on (oobla di) and you have to let it go sometime.
The Monday after Deathly Sunday, I took Althouse off my bookmarks, went over to Crack's and then EBL, and then found this place, as well as Scott's (AlthouseUnfiltered) and Chip's (AlthousesLookingGlass).
I had said my good-byes and found new places to hang my hat.
FR Martin Fox said...
That seemed a bit sweeping; I hope not meant to be.
Oh, but it was meant to be sweeping. Passive aggressive and snotty as well. The use of words like "most of..." [or the equivalent] instead of "some of..." have wholly different implications. Some of something can be intolerable and worthy of a change in protocols, but to allege "most" is at best petulant. To assert that followers of the blog for years don't appreciate it or the author is more petulance bordering on narcissism. To outright say "most" have been niggardly is ludicrous unless I'm badly mistaken. Calling male readers "losers" is a nice touch. Why would anyone be non-plussed at that?
It is time to move along. I will read Althouse posts that interest me, not all of them, my time is my time after all. Some recent topics have been yawners, from my point of view. We beta-males have chores you know. That cliché' bit tickles me because it reveals how ignorant the user, whoever uses it, is about actual alpha to omega behavior, male and female, in the wild, where it is none-the-less drawn from.
Just don't kid yourself, Father, the "sweeping" sensed was intended.
Reading all of this confirms for me that Althouse WAS all about the comments.
Yes, sometimes you did have dig a little deeper to find the pony, but it was always there.
It's a lockout. No hockey season this year.
Life was less complicated before the internet er before semi-detached fools started typing on a keyboard trying to be something they weren't.
Sort of like when some folk start driving in their car and their whole personality changes ie they think they're king of the world.
And speaking of king, it was somewhat amusing when I first started taking an interest in Althouse, Sep/Oct. 2010 IIRC, and shortly thereafter she made the dubious claim that her con posters were the smartest in the political blogosphere ?!?
Talk about inane generalizations as I'd say about 10% of her 90/10 con majority were fairly intelligent and the rest were fluff, just happy to be part of any large conservative group.
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In any event, this is the frickin' internet folks ~ Get Over It !!!
I like how Fr. Martin Fox's comment pulls the room together.
Lem - I am with you pal. Take the high road on this blog and don't look back.
I'm Nobody! Who are you?
Are you – Nobody – too?
Then there's a pair of us!
Don't tell! they'd advertise – you know!
How dreary– to be– Somebody!
How public – like a Frog –
To tell one's name – the livelong June
–To an admiring Blog!
shiloh said...
And speaking of king, it was somewhat amusing when I first started taking an interest in Althouse, Sep/Oct. 2010 IIRC, and shortly thereafter she made the dubious claim that her con posters were the smartest in the political blogosphere ?!?
Of course they were.
Just look at the Lefties that showed up.
I've been an Althouse reader since 2010, so I'm mostly new to the gig. I have to say I haven't followed the brouhahas all that closely. I'm always amazed at the prolific posting abilities of Ann and the commenters. I have a hard time keeping up with a thread or two, let alone all the posts and all the comments.
It seems to me that Ann had a hard time moderating comments and didn't have much of a policy for doing so. I can't say I blame her. It's hard to track hundreds or maybe thousands of comments a day. Her lack of policy led to some very emotional responses. I think the emotion involved led her to withdraw rather than try to engage. One, it was just too large a task to take on by herself, and she only has Meade to help. Two, she prides herself on dispassionate analysis. A lot of her posts were made as the unemotional observer, but they weren't completely detached because she would offer opinions. But I think being involved in highly emotional interactions makes her uncomfortable.
Haz, And w/ a dude reference. That's pastoral!
One other thought before I have to go for the day. Meade has inferred here that Lem should be compensated for his troubles. On its face, not necessarily a bad point. But the inference is that it is a burden, and therefore money is the only thing that might make the load more bearable.
I have a different take. Run and moderate the blog in a way that feels good to you. If it works, the commenters will be engaged, and it can be a beneficent relationship for all involved. Lose that engagement, and all the money in the world can't bring it back. In my professional and academic pursuits, when I keep people engaged, things work. When they are not engaged, pouring money into the mix has no effect. Maybe the most temporary of effects, but nothing substantive over the long term.
So Lem, I'd say do the blog out of love and enjoyment, and then when that's gone, move on. No amount of Amazon kickbacks will make it a labor of love again.
When the padre calls you on shit one should listen. Unless you're anti religion and won't accept what a person who has dedicated his life to God, something you reject, has to say. However, if the padre merely spoke as Martin Fox, he would be no less wise and measured.
I'm always amazed at the prolific posting abilities of Ann and the commenters. . . . It seems to me that Ann had a hard time moderating comments . . . It's hard to track hundreds or maybe thousands of comments a day. . . . I think the emotion involved led her to withdraw rather than try to engage.
Rather than emotion or comment overload, what you are describing here sounds more like that she has been a "drive-by" blogger, much like Rush's drive-by media. She would come to a scene, shoot up the place, and then drive off. Engagement was never really the objective - getting her shots in was. Even when not on the attack, she was always talking at people more than talking with them. She's the professor don't you know - you listen to and learn from her, not the other way around.
And lastly! I respect what Ann has done. I couldn't do it. I've got no beef with her, and I wish her well. May her comment-free existence be a pleasant and rewarding one.
Lets say you were Althouse, how would you correct that "writing" up there?
To Lem and the Lemulite cobloggers, allow me one more babble. Lem, I'm not a hardcore grammarian, and although language can be lovely, I'm not fixated on language.
What I am into is communication, which can take many forms. And as long as I can derive the intent of your communications, or at least infer my own conclusions on your intent, then you are a successful communicator regardless of your spelling and grammatical errors!
And Lem, one of the lovely things about some of your more ephemeral thoughts is that they can be derived in myriad ways, depending on how the reader consumes and considers it. Same with Chip Ahoy.
Not to leave out the other cobloggers, I think you all have your strengths as communicators, not just writers. That's no small feat as our world becomes increasingly graphic. So please, don't worry so much about specific writing rules! What is the intent? The way you all mix videos and images and text passages that evoke the senses make for a very rich experience when it comes to deriving your intentions.
Just one last one:
AA had a toolbox full of ways to say: You are so stupid, you don't even know how stupid you are.
As someone who knows exactly how stupid I am, I won't miss that.
Calling people stupid was Althouse's go-to tactic to express her frustration when people wouldn't do what she wanted, exactly the way she wanted it done.
B. Kliban saw it coming.
It's crossed my mind that her vehemence might have been motivated, at least in part, by her nagging belief that her commenters would be treating her more precisely the way she wanted if she were a man.
The control freak and the free speech absolutist don't sit comfortably next to each other when they're riding the commuter train.
As I've said before, it's occurred to me from time to time that maybe she really is a little bit nuts.
"Exactly. Eventually, most Althouse commenters did not read Athouse."
Sorta. I just skipped over the Cafe thread, thinking it was just a picture. I assumed if Althouse wanted to discuss comments, she'd have written an opening paragraph, and made it more clear in the title. I also wasn't expecting 2 open comment posts in one day.
But that's what happens when you assume.
As for whether Althouse is suffering from blogger burnout or not, its obvious she needs to concentrate on her writing. And the comments seem to be a big distraction, at this point.
Still watching Golf. Go Phil. Shouted "IN THE HOLE" 20 times today. Success rate: 2/20.
Improvement. Are the golf balls learning?
I pretty much agree with Palladian at 2:36.
So far, Lem has create a haven for Althouse diaspora and as such, the wanderers will only have one vital topic to chew over: the circumstances that led to their homeless status, the flaming sword of Ann that cast them out. The only way for this to change is for Lem to upload blogposts that are interesting and genuine observations in and of themselves. So far, the posts here are only placeholders for the outcast commentariat to chew over why they left the homeland. Lem seems to be a sweetheart, but more must be done with his blogposts... apart from that all we have to talk about is why we left AA, and that is already getting tired.
As for Althouse-post-commentary: Althouse is good, sometimes very good. When she is very good, the comments that trailed those blogposts made her nearly great.
Betamax
if leprechauns could play a bagpipe version of "free-bird"
without winking at me. . .
then i might leave their lucky charms alone
--- pd buttons
(lifted from Protein Wisdom)
Joan of Ann.
Meade wrote: bibō bibis bibit bibimus bibitis bibunt babe beer
Conjugal rites. That's just marvelous, Meade.
I would rather decline two beers than one Althouse adjective.
AA had a toolbox full of ways to say: You are so stupid, you don't even know how stupid you are.
Like an Eskimo having a dozen words for snow, she described what surrounded her. You see, it was never about her point of view.
BTW, I missed this thread last night because I was watching reruns of "Justified."
@Joe Schmoe: Your writing drips with latinate cum. Deliberate?
Joe Schmoe, Totally agree. The obsession w/ grammar and words was tedious. William Safire could do it w/ humor, class and self deprecation. Safire had a wealth of real world experience to draw on to give his wordsmithing texture and context. Ivory tower folks lack real world.
Palladian wrote: I believe that she handled her blog's "break-up" with commenters badly, and I think it's perfectly legitimate to write critically, or even satirically, about that.
Here are 4 spoken word satires of Althouse's handling of the commenter crisis, all voiced as a pedantic scold loosely based on the Professor Kingsfield character (John Houseman) in "Paper Chase." The words are mostly her own.
Althouse Talks Down To Her Flock
Althouseman talks down to his class #2
Althouseman talks down to his class #3
Althouseman talks down to his class #4
Palladian:
"don't you know that you can count me out."
In. Dontcha know it's gonna be alright?
I see Ed quoted the Beatles, too, up above...
Chick, Hilarious!
I'm with you on not bashing Althouse.
But I'm afraid I must take issue with your taste in 80's music.
To be clear: I offer NO criticism of Althouse changing the comment policy or dropping comments. It's her blog. My comments above were directed to Meade's comments. And I am all for keeping things light. I a. Not overwrought.
I know you married a lawyer, but I didn't know that sort of crap was contagious.
With all due respect to lawyers, it is.
Because luckily for them, some lawyers actually learn to draw a distinction between courtroom antics and real life.
And then, there are grifters who become so enamored of someone else's lawyerly skills as to desire nothing more than to emulate them. Their love of those skills is so great that they start to confuse them for admirable personality traits.
Apparently a fish of that sort was caught, and hooked upstream.
Meade has surpassed the role of mere narcissistic supplier and become someone who enables his beloved to lose all sense of proportion and distinction, and coddles her with self-justifying belief that none of it was their fault at all.
Althouse enticed Ritmo to the fight, and then made him choose between his balls and her.
You chose wisely.
"self-justifying belief that none of it was their fault at all."
Nice but your theory is 180 degrees wrong. Rits.
It was all my fault. She wanted to shut down the comments back in 2009 when we got together. There was a lot of ugliness. People attacked her kids, her ex husband, and her friends. Remember Maxine Weiss. Crack went off the rails. Titus kept breaking character, his hostility spilling out. On and on. Mary, Trooper York, and others would pose as her friend but could barely contain their seething envy, anger, and hatred.
I kept talking her out of it and she wanted me to be happy. The comments entertained me and fed my desire for narcissistic supply. I couldn't quit.
But finally she saw the real truth and the monster that I had created and she took decisive action. And we are all better off for it.
So blame me. It was my fault.
Sorry.
Don't thread on Meade
The problem I would have when conducting an investigation is when a compulsive liar might be telling the truth. I would analyze it as best possible. But, if there wasn't corroboration, I would consider it just another lie, but a better one than most of his. That was virtually always the case.
I'm sorry if Crack feels like he's not welcome. I don't mind the harsh nature of his comments but I admit they aren't often directed at me.
It's only my opinion, of course, but I make a profound distinction between someone who lets fly with honest but hostile opinions (what used to be called a flame war) and someone who dredges up the past constantly and out of context.
Oh, it's pretty funny when the fans of one sports team taunt their favorite rival instead of who is actually playing the game but it doesn't translate well in other circumstances. I suppose it's funny over at Ace of Spades when the one person does his "Obama is a miserable excuse of a failure" line when the post is about kitten videos, but no one actually responds to that so it's minimally disruptive.
I missed the Althouse hate that prompted Lem's post and I don't really feel like going searching for it.
I just wanted to say that I LIKE Crack's posts and like how he's not apologetic and doesn't back down even if I don't like what he has to say all of the time.
What I don't like, and everyone knows someone who does this IRL, is when people attack the person instead of ideas because of unrelated ideas. So... if anytime Crack said something about marriage or women, if I responded that he's an evil atheist and should be hated... that's non-responsive bashing. If I instead said that I mostly agreed with what he said about marriage but that he's full of shit about women... that would be on topic.
I don't think that anyone really is insisting that everyone must be nice all the time.
Or at least, I wouldn't even want everyone to be nice all the time.
Synova, One of the surest signs someone is a phoney is if they're nice all the time.
"So blame me. It was my fault.
Sorry."
Meade talked Althouse into marrying him, so he probably had the power to "veto" her blog edict. Or maybe Althouse had empathy re: his comment addiction.
Obviously Meade is addicted to Lem's blog now that Althouse has closed her doors. Meade seriously, there's other political blogs out there for you to troll. Your buddy has a list of them on her home page.
solo estoy diciendo
But like Athouse, Meade has the need to be the center of attention. Indeed, as he vicariously lives his life thru Althouse.
And so it goes ...
She wanted to shut down the comments back in 2009
We could continue this fun game of psycho-analyze Althouse, asking what was the predominant topic of discussion in 2009 (and 2008), coming to the natural conclusion that what got to her then and since was her justification/excuse that she never could sell to anyone, not in 2008, not in 2012, and not any other time, but frankly, this is getting really boring and tedious. Besides, were we to go down that road, we'd end up at the same place as we are now, with that exercise only reinforcing what we already know.
It's an interesting theory, Meade. And even more interesting in that she thought the best time to shut them down would have been right after she hooked her best commenter into the bonds of matrimony. So sweet! The comments served their purpose!
Although that would have been a bit treacly. But whatever, it's hardly the point. Your marriage is not my business and not my place to offer anything but respect.
The point is that your conservative former friends, here, are taking issue with the way they felt insulted after the infamous thread in question, the one where your dear sweet beloved took to taunting her male audience, and a decent number of sympathetic conservative women, belittling them for failing to recognize the supposed supremacy of the vagina for its baby-birthing powers.
If that sounds crude, it's only because I'm breaking the "argument" down to its core sentiment at play, one that even other conservative women - both commenters and other well-known bloggers - apparently disagreed with strongly.
Maxine Weiss wasn't on that thread. (Has she even been around in a number of years?) And Mary's been plenty abusive to you (and anyone else in "her" way) in the past. I can't speak for Crack, but your falling out with him must have obviously occurred long before that.
So it seems that, the fact remains, that Ann couldn't stomach being seen as so far in the wrong, even offensively in the wrong, this time. I won't condone comments that you felt to be unwarrantedly abusive - (and I agree that Mary has always been extremely over-the-top in how abusive she's been) - but it seems inescapable that what hurt Ann the most is that her core commentariat abandoned her argument at large, took extreme issue with its extreme nature, and lo and behold, even felt insulted when they were unnecessarily insulted following her inability to come up with a decent rebuttal in response.
Incidentally, this was always the problem that I had with the blog: An inability to separate successfully winning an argument with success in life.
Can you honestly disagree that this wasn't a part of what pushed Ann over the edge?
It seems to be the only variable, in this case, that stood out.
When one wants to be as outrageous, extravagant and controversial with the topics and posts themselves as Ann has always been (which I think is fine), it's hard to argue that widespread pushback at some point would be unforeseen, let alone intolerable - especially for an intelligent and professionally accomplished blogger. This is the price to pay for being an Ann Coulter. Or an Ann Althouse. (If that's how she'd really intended to play it. Her posts lately indicate that she did and still does).
Finally, I can't speak to whatever Mary might have said that had been deleted before my notice, but IIRC, they were actually sympathetic to Althouse's argument.
I took as much abuse from her that day as anyone. Of course, Mary would often choose between abusing the person for what she didn't like about them personally and the person for what she didn't like about their argument. It didn't matter. Only the opportunity to abuse mattered for Mary. It's possible that she was abusing Ann while agreeing with her.
And while I can't speak to what it must have been like to deal with her abuse as blog administrators, I do feel that I did a decent job putting Mary in her place that day - at least to the extent that I, as a lowly commenter, could do.
I find Mary as repugnant as you must, so I do sympathize on that account. There were a lot of things going on that day, and at some point I guess an entire build-up of bad feelings here or there over the years were bound to snap. It all came to fruition in one controversial (and incidentally wrong or wrong-headed, if I may say so) post. It's your place to decide how you want to handle it, but impossible not to notice that you still have affection for so many of these commenters who did contribute so much, even if a lot of the time it was in ways that I also disagreed with on intellectual or ideological or etiquette grounds.
I'm sure you'll make the choices that are right for you. As imperfect as they might seem to a number of the rest of us. And as the perpetual former fly in the ointment, I suppose I'm not even really one to talk.
But do try to see their point, sometime. That's a lot of what these things come down to.
If anyone understands what the hell Ritmo is talking about, could you please email me and explain it to me? Thanks. I need it in like condensed simplified form. Paraphrased. To my simple mind he just sounds like someone who has gone completely insane. Thanks again.
Oh jeez, and now he's added another insane comment on top of the first insane comment. Help me, please.
"please email me"
Meade, it would have been better just to remain quiet rather than call Ritmo insane.
If you don't want to reply that's fine as you've done a pretty good job in this thread avoiding many comments about your many shortcomings.
Or maybe Meade was "attempting" to be humorous/witty again ...
I just wanted to say that I LIKE Crack's posts and like how he's not apologetic and doesn't back down even if I don't like what he has to say all of the time.
What I don't like, and everyone knows someone who does this IRL, is when people attack the person instead of ideas because of unrelated ideas. So... if anytime Crack said something about marriage or women, if I responded that he's an evil atheist and should be hated... that's non-responsive bashing. If I instead said that I mostly agreed with what he said about marriage but that he's full of shit about women... that would be on topic.
Well put. I am of the same mind.
And now a third one. Lord help me.
Hey Lem how is that not bashing Althouse working out for you buddy?
Linking me with Mary was a nice touch by the grifter in chief?
Let me ask you something. I should just let that lie right? That's the solution?
I didn't notice this until long after it was posted so I guess it is water under the bridge.
Thoughts mi amigo?
Rhythm and Balls said...
"Asshole."
Now that I understand. Finally.
And I agree!
ok, many of us agree Meade is in need of help. Sorry, if Althouse can't help you, psychiatric care is available under Obamacare.
Wishin' you all the best!
Meade tries out the "I'm too stupid to understand what I did wrong" excuse.
Not the smartest move for someone whose commentariat abandoned him in the first place for hearing one too many arguments consisting of nothing other than condescension. Sharpen up, Dumbo.
"Sharpen up, Dumbo."
A helpful Althouse translation:
Please, step up your game ... if possible.
The only help you deserve is the kind thrown to a drowning person in need of a cinder block.
You can fuck yourself in your stupid elephant ass. That's not insanity, that's a sane response to an obviously, stupidly obnoxious child.
No adult gets to continue saying "I'm too simple to understand what I did wrong" while protesting their treatment, despite the labored attempts by his betters to actually explain what the fuck he DID wrong.
You are hopeless and incorrigible.
"Asshole."
Now that I understand. Finally.
And I agree!
I'm glad that you agree with the fact that you are an asshole.
A hopelessly lost, hopelessly stupid asshole.
Dumbo sounds like a term of endearment. I appreciate that after all the mean things you said. It's sweet of you really.
Go ask your friends at Lawyers, Guns and Money for help with the interpretation, dipshit.
Oh yeah. They don't respect you, either.
Does anyone respect you, Meade?
Obviously one of Meade's personality traits Althouse found attractive was him acting like a lost little kid ... incessantly.
Hopelessly lost, hopelessly stupid seems a little harsh. You don't think, with some good psychotherapy, I could eventually get it together even a little?
With defense mechanisms as endless as yours, I think Deborah's right. You're the borderline to Ann's narcissist. You've got an excuse for everything, don't you? Except for why it is that everyone hates you.
That must be a real chin-scratcher, Meade. Think long and hard about it. Ask Siri.
When they handed out brains, Meade asked for the slow one. The one that goes "choo choo"!
You don't think, with some good psychotherapy, I could eventually get it together even a little?
Nope. You don't take responsibility for anything.
Even for the truth of what you're really up to with your phony excuses and diversionary explanations.
An asshole who lives in his own fantasies, and blames others for their deviation from reality. The worst kind.
Well, I for one understood Ritmo perfectly. Perhaps it is the multi syllabic writing style that is confounding you?
Here is the thing: I presume, Althouse closed down her comments because she couldn't handle or won't tolerate the abusive and disruptive free for all in the comment section. Can't say as I blame her. Meade has said several times that we are losers and wanted to get rid of us in the comment section.....OK....fine. That is their prerogative and they are entitled to run their blog as they see fit, since it is evidently no longer Althouse's blog but a joint effort now.
If you want to be rid of those people and detest them so much.....why the fuck are you here Meade? Don't you have some comments at Althouse to moderate? You might want to consider that WE have moved away from YOU.
So really. Why are you here?
"Hopelessly lost, hopelessly stupid seems a little harsh. You don't think, with some good psychotherapy, I could eventually get it together even a little?"
Rhetorical, ok Meade is definitely crying out for help er attention lol.
"Does anyone respect you, Meade?"
I guess not.
I used to think one of my neighbor's dogs respected me. But come to think of it, he seems to only pity me.
"So really. Why are you here?"
Same reason you are.
Perhaps a Commentariat MMA League would be successful.
So really. Why are you here?
To troll.
I offered him the kindness of an explanation for why everyone is pissed at or hates him.
And he repaid that by telling me I was wrong and mean for using big words. He thought this would be a funny response.
What kind of an asshole responds to someone offering him the kindness of an understanding explanation with rude ridicule?
Well, one who's apparently got the emotional maturity of a three-year old.
That's why Meade and Ann are hated. When people are nice to them, they piss all over it. They only want what they feel they can use to make themselves "look good". Appearances matter. Intentions are moot. And this is the crew that brought you a comments section governed by what they could discern was written in "good faith".
What a bunch of frauds.
"blames others for their deviation from reality"
Are you talking about when I mentioned that your rants and ravings sound like those of someone who is insane? I don't blame you for you insanity, Rits. It's probably due to some kind of abuse you suffered in childhood. How would I know?
"So really. Why are you here?"
Same reason you are.
No you're not. Dust Bunny Queen appreciates and is capable of intelligent discussion and argumentation.
You are not.
You're right, Ritmo. You were being very kind to me and I didn't show proper appreciation. Thanks for you kindnes, Ritmo.
Meade is trying, quite unsuccessfully, to prove he can hold his own w/out hiding behind Althouse persona. It's kinda sad and tragic.
Hopefully his mommy approves of his childish antics here as one would think she'd be somewhat disturbed by his antics ... or not.
How would I know?
I don't think you know about anything that you write.
You just put finger to keyboard and hope that something interesting and witty comes out.
Any actual knowledge is for the big people who make your toddler-mind hurt.
Is your tantrum almost done now?
Please don't tell my mommy I'm commenting over here. She might get mad at me. K?
Thanks for you kindnes, Ritmo.
Sure. Just go put a rutabaga up your ass and we'll call it even, Chauncey Gardiner.
Just out of curiosity, did Ann try out other "roles" for you to take on as her gopher-in-chief? Or was ACE-reporter on Salt Truck-Honking Gate as far as it went?
Lem, why don't you moderate Meade? He is out of control.
Either you take that flaming pile of garbage out of here or you risk becoming Althouse II. Your call, Lem.
ok, Althouse kept her blog open so her boy wouldn't go off the deep end. And now "we" are witnessing his complete unraveling.
Meade was an Althouse reclamation project gone bad!
Hey everyone! Look what I found! A video of someone else who thinks Meade's an asshole!
Meade's good faith commenting is really something to behold.
"A monkey with a language"! Lol!
That's Meade for you.
Meade, please hurry back as your mistress wants you to make another tedious/juvenile ebay post.
Indeed, the Althouse coffers have been in decline recently so be a good boy and take care of her bottom line.
As per Rogan's blistering routine and improvisational remarks against a heckler, I'm forced to conclude that Meade's appearance here was basically a desperate plea to say to Ann, "I'm a good boy! Please let me be inside your vagina!"
Go home, Lawnboy. That's what happens when you burn all your bridges. Wack the weeds and park yourself inside the winebox. You're not liked by even your own and the big words hurt your tiny brain anyway.
And practice saying things. Use flash cards that say, for instance, "carburetor". Or "fertilizer".
You know, impossibly complex words.
Oh, Rits. Calm down. I'm just putting you on.
I wonder if the aides to Yasser Arafat and Yitzak Rabin ever secretly wished they'd give it a rest and shut the hell up for a while?
Maybe Kissinger spoke about that. Until people wished he'd shut the hell up.
as per
des per
ate
a poem
Althouse must really be closing up shop 'cause her boy has burned down all the bridges she has methodically/carefully built since starting her blog.
Top hats must look really novel to Lawn Boy.
He preaches the "good faith commenting" gospel to the beetles and grubs who remain as the only audience that takes him seriously.
Have you considered the fact that you're not funny, either? There comes a point when people give up even trying to humor you, Meade. Lawn Boy.
Get off your high-horse and get back down on the lawn. Not in the weeds. But just in some patch of reality.
"Top hats must look really novel to Lawn Boy."
Well yes, yes they do. But - and you might find this interesting - Ann and I love to perform that scene in our free time and in the privacy of our own home. She, of course plays the Gene Wilder role.
"I'm off to do some real life."
I envy you, Rits. Real life sounds so... real.
Do you have any idea how much I admire you? Your ease with language? Big words? Typing skills. In me you inspire awe. You really do.
This blog obviously needs more math.
Go get your shinebox, winebox.
Okay, Rits. Anything you say.
Actually it can be a lot of fun if the AOM is high.
The question is who has their hand on the knob. So to speak.
Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper
Tryin' hard to look like Gary Cooper
(Super duper)
In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us blog.
― The Brothers Karmazov
Lol. That's the best you can come up with, Winebox-Lawnboy?
Why, of course it is.
As I said earlier, a monkey with a language.
Seriously, go get your shinebox.
Man has no more tormenting care than to find someone to whom he can hand over as quickly as possible that gift of freedom of blog with which the miserable creature is born.
― The Brothers Karmazov
There are three powers, three powers alone, able to conquer and to hold captive for ever the blog hits of these impotent rebels for their happiness those forces are miracle, mystery and authority. Thou hast rejected all three and hast set the example for doing so.
― The Brothers Karmazov
Moar math! We're counting on you, Freem.
Is this that thread where we can say whatever we want and get it out of our systems? Funny way to introduce it, but like I said, Lem, is one clever layer of traps.
Well this has become on of "those" threads.
We're way past the pony and still shoveling shit.
Freeman Hunt said...
This blog obviously needs more math.
And fewer polymaths.
How about a math joke?
What did the acorn say when he grew up?
Geometry.
You have a four-ounce glass and a nine-ounce glass. You have an endless supply of water. You can fill or dump either glass.
You can measure six ounces of water using these two glasses. The question is:
1. How many steps are involved; and
2. What's the fewest number of steps in which you can measure six ounces?
But Ann's blog is doing better than ever!
Caplight, there is a third container (of unknown volume) involved, isn't there?
You have a four-ounce glass and a nine-ounce glass
Wasn't this in Die Hard with Samuel L. Jackson, but with gallon containers?
Palladian said...
3+3 = 6
1+5 = 6
Math is hard!
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Your dear contributor, Palladian said that right after he said this:
Palladian said...
"I am saddened by the insults from Althouse today. Very much so. I don't know what to say. It makes me feel sick." [ - Pogo]
Read any fucking thread about anything to do with homosexuality, read the insults and slander and blood libel and nonsense, think about it from the perspective of someone who comments here, has "friends" here, and who happens to be gay, and then get the fuck back to me about your poor, hurt feelings.
So many people here, people that I otherwise respect, have written so much cloaked or naked vituperation about gay people, and our effect on civilization, that what little sympathy I had for your "feelings" has long evaporated.
At this point in my life I'm finished with the lot of you, the plantation master so-called "liberals" who are less distinguishable from Fascists every day, and the so-called small-government "conservatives", who have such little faith in their God and the eternal and sacred institution of marriage that they bray for the State to enshrine their doctrine in secular law, and scream "Apocalypse!" when it doesn't happen.
I'm lucky that I don't have any feelings anymore, because if I did... "sick" and "saddened" wouldn't cover it.
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Personally, I think I'm finished reading "Palladian".
Gee, I thought I was the only one who noticed "Titus" and his passive-aggressive anger.
"cloaked or naked vituperation"
"Crack went off the rails."
"Titus kept breaking character, his hostility spilling out."
"Mary, Trooper York, and others would pose as her friend but could barely contain their seething envy, anger, and hatred."
Its beginning to sound like a Harold Pinter play.
Hey what can you do?
Yes - tragicomedy.
Meade said...
"I didn't realize the Althouse Cafe thread was open "
Exactly. Eventually, most Althouse commenters did not read Athouse.
This is flat out wrong and indicative of the compounding misunderstandings that led to Althouse ending comments and then many former commenters reacting overly negatively. The vast majority of commenters read her comments and appreciated them. But they viewed themselves as contributors by taking her points a step further into new directions. Or noting an under-discussed side issue.
So a tiny minority caused Althouse to conclude she wasn't valued and her reaction caused other commenters to conclude she didn't value them.
Nevertheless the issue is over. She's going to do something else and so are her former commenters. But I don't understand what Meade thinks he's accomplishing by rubbing salt in the wounds of people upset by her reaction. Those people are reacting to the loss of a community they thought they had, just as Althouse claims she is. His reaction seems absolutely contrary to how he chides others.
It's easy to understand. Meade is just a dick and he is proving it every day.
Give him enough rope and he can show you what he can do.
Marshall, we have not lost our community. It's right here, if you'll open you eyes. You big melodramatic dolt.
Anyone who truly appreciates her blogging - and I see more and more clearly that that is a limited and select set of readers - does not want to see her time and efforts compromised.
We have encouraged Lem and some of his contributors in getting this blog up and running. My hope is that the same individuals whose behavior led to Ann shutting down her comments are not able to do the same to Lem's.
Most self-unaware comment of the century. Co-administrator for unsuccessful blog wishes well to another blog. Only the only possible way for that to materialize is if the new blog-owners decide not to be douches like Ann and Meade. Then your blog might be successful, Lem.
Only he doesn't realize that's what he's saying.
Chauncey Gardiner/Lawn Boy/Meade wants to blame his blog's failure on all the people who've migrated to the blog to which he wishes all the best.
What a damn tool. Or a garden hose. Or a rake. Either way, what a garden variety douche-bag!
Freeman: I'm pretty sure Lawn Boy sucks at math too. Tell that bitch to get his freaking shine box!
You big melodramatic dolt.
At least he's not self-unaware about it. Oh.... my commenters are SOOO MEAN to me! Oh.... Watch me sip on a winebox all alone at night and blog about it to an adoring commenting community! I might not have the lawnboy, YET, but maybe he might lurk out there, amongst you unseen adoring ADMIRERS! Come, and get me!
And then get yer fucking shinebox. LOL!
Meade said...
Marshall, we have not lost our community. It's right here, if you'll open you eyes.
Perhaps, but:
a) weren't the worst reactions mostly during the interregnum?, and
b) today Shiloh and Ritmo found it, so who knows how long it will last, the uncertainty contributes to a sense of loss,
c) that explanation doesn't justify the salt.
But I don't understand what Meade thinks he's accomplishing by rubbing salt in the wounds of people upset by her reaction.
Vindication for the audience of 1, that sits inside his own little mind.
Oh yeah, and the one sitting next to him on the couch.
So there's that. Some say that she's got a whole chorus of appreciation inside her own head.
Lawboy likes that sort of thing. He's waited his whole lifetime for a community of people who understand and accept him, and now he found it. They all exist inside Winebox's head - like characters in a TV show, or movie.
These two nitwits are Being John Malkovich, the home edition.
LOL!
Freeman, I'm doing math.
How many is the number of people who agree with Meade?
Answer: 1.
Technically winebox doesn't count because she doesn't agree so much as she requires his defense.
So, that's one person who agrees with Meade and one person who just prefers to watch him doing his yapping like a shih tzu because it comforts her and makes her feel safe.
b) today Shiloh and Ritmo found it, so who knows how long it will last, the uncertainty contributes to a sense of loss,
Don't worry, Marshall. I have no ill-will toward Lem. I knew about this blog for at least a week or more, and didn't comment. I didn't have anything to comment about here and don't begrudge a couple of people their need for strange opinions and all that.
But Meade's a douchebag and I insist on making him know that everyone here knows it. You guys can go easy on him all you like. I tried it myself upthread. And then he acted like a bitchy little kid and stuck his fingers in his ears.
So, gloves off. Lem and his team are entitled to have what they were denied by LawnBoy bitch and winebox, and I don't begrudge them that at all. I think it's perfectly fine.
But don't think I'll let LawnBoy off the hook by playing all innocent and blaming the kerfuffle on everyone here. If you guys want him to let you think that, go ahead. But if you do that, you're beyond hope.
My job is to keep the Stockholm Syndrome as confined as possible to LawnBoy himself. I might not succeed, but I'll try. And unlike him, I'll be honest.
Now go tell him to get his shine box!
Billy Batts, Phil Leotardo, either way, I like how his characters end up.
Now where is my Ford Explorer?
*crunch*
"c) that explanation doesn't justify the salt. "
Oh suck it up and grow up. The only salt here is from your own tears. And Ritmo/Shiloh's.
Those aren't tears, Meade. Those are the sweat being squeezed out of your ass-cheeks as I stomp it into the ground.
Can't you go away, already? Rot! Please! Let them have their place in peace. You lost them. Don't you realize that? Your supporters have left. You admit that your supporters have dwindled to a tiny core. The people that are here are here because they don't respect you and your disdain for what they appreciated.
For that, I respect them. They can have their peace and their place and get crabby about how horrible liberals are all they want. Free speech and all. I don't begrudge that one bit. They can even complain about me.
But every time you show up to make up some story about how everything you do is right and it's really no big deal how much of an asshole you act like to people who don't deserve it - people who did nothing worse than making the mistake of expecting better from you, I will stomp on your sorry ass.
Go plant a garden! Begone!
It's a rhetorical threat. I'm already stomping on you - argumentatively.
This is not your place, Meade. You can't pretend to feel aggrieved. You can't pretend that your feelings are more important than theirs. What is so hard for you to get about that?
Seriously, Meade. Who respects you?
I want to know if you can provide me with the name of one person who respects you.
You don't respect yourself, even. And we all know that Ann just "needs" you. That's not the same as respect.
Don't you realize that this is all you're proving to anyone here, at this point?
It's pathetic. Don't you have any hope for yourself?
Yep. You'll just make a joke in response to that and pretend that none of us realize it's your way of saying that you simply don't have an answer.
Sad.
Blogger Meade said
Oh suck it up and grow up.
I've always believed the desire to work toward understanding is a sign of maturity.
I think a new genre has been born- blog opera.
C Stan-It was a Car Talk Puzzler. I was trying to stop the train wreck with the magic of a puzzle. It failed to achieve the desired result.
The answer is here:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/glass-water-puzzler-0?answer
Ritmo is "sad". If only anyone had empathy. They could comfort him.
I've always believed the desire to work toward understanding is a sign of maturity.
Well, apparently Meade disagrees but then, when has he ever indicated that he possesses anything resembling understanding or maturity?
It's sad at this point. He'll probably find some way to retaliate against me. But all I'm doing is telling him the truth.
Some people resent that, though. I think we call them "liars".
Frauds.
People who don't say things in good faith.
Get some help, Meade.
Ritmo is "sad".
I'm not sad. I think the sorry stat of what you've become is sad. But the only one who can do anything about that is you.
It's sad that you lack the maturity and wisdom to appreciate what you'd gain by growing up and acting decently. Even at your late age.
Go on. Make a joke about that.
Perhaps if we all thought about more happy things it will help end this thread. I would suggest famine, disease and pestilence for a starter might be more positive.
Yep, I got that caplight. I was sort of trying to keep it going. Appears that our efforts were in vain.
Poor Lem.
Poor Lem? Lem is watching his baseball team make the Yankees sweat.
"Can't you go away, already? Rot! Please! Let them have their place in peace. You lost them. Don't you realize that? Your supporters have left. You admit that your supporters have dwindled to a tiny core. The people that are here are here because they don't respect you and your disdain for what they appreciated."
You're missing it, Ritmo. Upthread where he says he and Ann encouraged the commentariat to start their own blog. They don't view Lem's blog as his own - guests banished to the guest house, but its still their property. That's why Meade thinks he can just waltz in the door and start flinging poo at will. Even though he's been asked to stop several times now.
Geez Meade, consider: when you've got Fen & Ritmo in agreement against you, you should reconsider your position.
Fen you have to realize that Meade just wants to provide the ultimate proof of Fens law.
All his squealing and bitching and moaning about what happened at TOP is pretty funny when you see over here trying to ruin this joint in exactly the same way.
It is an amazing display to say the least.
If y'all would care to move to the "Get Rhythm" post, I have powers of deletion.
"today Shiloh and Ritmo found it"
Marshall, I've posted here the last (3) days, having recently noticed Althouse current conniption over a week ago. Indeed, she's had at least (3) moderation conniptions since 2010. Lather, rinse, repeat.
And again, I haven't posted at Althouse since Dec. so don't blame me for her current hissy fit.
And I'll be leaving here very soon. After all, I was never part of the Althouse "community". Praise the Lord! I've quit several blogs cold turkey and no disrespect to Lem, but leaving here will be relatively easy as again, political blogging is so much nonsense.
But the last (3) days have been somewhat entertaining watching Althouse gofer discombobulate. Meade reinforces a 40 year old maxim: One should never get in a battle of wits w/an unarmed man ...
But I'm empathetic to his current juvenile plight to join the human race.
Meade, surely there's a place for you ~ somewhere a place for you.
Hold Ritmo's hand and he'll take you there.
Somehow
Someday
Somewhere
Lol. I knew there was something we'd have to agree on sooner or later, Fen!
Call Meade The Great Divider.
Anyway, concerning this:
You're missing it, Ritmo. Upthread where he says he and Ann encouraged the commentariat to start their own blog. They don't view Lem's blog as his own - guests banished to the guest house, but its still their property. That's why Meade thinks he can just waltz in the door and start flinging poo at will. Even though he's been asked to stop several times now.
I've already commented to some certain others (also gathered here), that it reminds of a dad who throws his kids out of the house, and then visits his son a few years later at his own house, once he's become a very successful man himself.
He proceeds to berate the son to his wife and kids, telling them what a screw-up the kid was.
At which point, I believe it's entirely within said son's rights to ask Dad to behave politely at his house, lest he throw the old man out and have him put up with listening to Mom bitch at him the whole ride back about how he can't just leave well enough alone and allow others to take responsibility (and credit) for something for once.
Does Meade have to ruin everything now? Lol. ;-)
He might just grow up yet. After all, the kids now have on their own what he always wanted to claim credit for.
If he wants to be a part of it, he can stop whining about how it's all about him.
Personally, I think I'm finished reading "Palladian".
Good. I'd finished reading you a couple weeks ago. I thought I'd read you before, but apparently I'd misread, or it was a poor translation.
Does Meade have to ruin everything now? Lol. ;-)
Reverse-polarized "Meadus Touch"?
I'm glad you saw that.
And by you, I meant Palladian,
I don't share the bigotry against wine that has the misfortune of living in a box. My home is always open to these unfortunate wines if anyone wants to help them get here. If you are female, and straight, or you can fake it long enough to get me drunk, adventure could make the trip worth your while. Help two homeless boxes find a home, and we might even make it to Vegas.
Meade, did you tell your wife you were just going for walk, so you could come over here and hang with the splooge stooges? She's gonna know. She'll smell your fingers.
So Lem. Una pregunta por favor?
How is that not bashing Althouse and Meade working out for you and your fellow bloggers?
Are you kidding, Bag? Meade's not allowed to go for walks without asking his wife to put his leash around his collar first. Lol.
I guess someone who permanently lives in fear of living in the doghouse doesn't draw distinctions about what goes in a guest's house, Fen!
Perhaps if we all thought about more happy things it will help end this thread. I would suggest famine, disease and pestilence for a starter might be more positive.
If it makes you feel better, I think my daughter is going to grow up to be a modern Genghis Khan, complete with cities full of dead people, crushed civilizations and all that kind of thing. A good time for all!
Also? 382nd, bitchez!
Geez... Meade is turning on Palladian? Really?? Way to burn those bridges... I hope Meade and the missus know what they are doing. ( I bet they don't.)
Althouse evidently enjoys watching her man play the troll on blogs, as witnessed by her front-paging his Isthmus trolling (which I could never be bothered to read.) The image of the two of them sitting around chortling as he farts all over Lem's place ( a man they claim to be fond of), is not at all what I envisioned years ago when I said on Ann's blog that the two of them together made an art out of enjoying life; (then again, to some people piss in a jar is art, so to each his own. )
I can't resist a good zinger if it seems right, Althouse or not.
I put a Zinger in the toaster as a youth. The result was toasty, chocolatey deliciousness. On the second try I got grounded.
On the "Please stop" topic: I agree with those who are observing that it's not exactly neutral. All you have to do is read this thread. That's something I see as manipulating the very people who have been so magnanimous. But y'all will work that out 'cause it's your business.
I'm happy not to talk about one of my formerly favorite blogs. I can talk to/read all of my favorite commenters here. Happy chick.
Thank you.
And now I have to change my biker chick clothes and put on my secretarial glasses and cute shoes and head to work...
That's funny.
at 12:30 AM Trooper York said...
"So Lem. How is that not bashing Althouse and Meade working out for you and your fellow bloggers?"
at 12:53 Napoli crushes his second dinger of the night.
A walk off.
Meade has graduated from childish troll to juvenile stalker as Althouse must be soooo proud!
The boy is very lonely craving for constant attention, even if his mommy is ordering him to act like a fool.
Just totally ignore him like many of you did w/me. And again, even though I was never part of the Althouse community, this will be my last post re: Meade. Besides redundancy, it will just make it easier for me to leave, since Althouse house boy appears to wanna nest at Lem's 'til the end of time ...
and beyond!
Indeed, maybe more lonely than edutcher w/out Althouse, gasp!
Its like he wants revenge for something. He should just drop the passive-aggressive trolling and get whatever it is out of his system.
Or maybe its Ann, hijacking his account?
[shrug] whatever. I won't be hanging around, no disrepect to Lem et al. I left Althouse long before the lastest dustup and have filled that time with other pursuits. Don't have the inclination to follow the commentartiat like I use to, but was simply curious how my former "tribe" was handling the banishment.
Good luck peeps! When I do log on to the net, I'll prob be over at Legal Insurrection if you need to ping me.
Cheers
Fen
Drip.
Hey, Palladian - if you're still reading. YOU are awesomesauce, as always.
Classy.
Fen ... I've read your comments over at LI and they're contributions to whatever is up for discussion. I wish mine were as cogent.
As for "banishment" at Althouse: I don't feel banished at all. Unwelcome perhaps, so be it. The door was suddenly closed on everybody without distinctions. It's a management issue...one that the management couldn't handle. As I said, so be it.
That said, it can happen here, too. If flame wars are promulgated via repetitive staccato posting and exchanges become common, it will also be unmanageable.
Management over there has now posted the same poll twice in two days...however it is a poll that goes 54% favoring comments and 46% against them. However unscientific it might be it indicates that many people thought the comments were worthwhile and part of the whole.
I'm going to stick around here for a while, as well as LI, where I'm a "subscriber," to see how Lem and his other contributors do. So far he and they have been far f-a-r nicer than I would ever be. Ever. And that is to their credit.
Fen, have you been reading Instapundit? Reading for comprehension, I mean?
Fen--
Correct.
I know the tribe that you ultimately belong to.
Guys that value something more than themselves.
You are wasting your time on the complete opposite of that culture.
And--hell Ritmo is impressive.
I don't give a shit who gets bent out of shape by my stating that.
Thanks Ari. See you over at LI. It will be interesting to watch how quickly Althouse falls off the charts without her community:
Blog traffic rankings for the 12 months ending 6-30-2013
Althouse 11,604,694
LegalIns 11,460,915
Gotta say, Legal Insurrection's coverage of the Zimmerman trial was fricken outstanding. I was ahead of everyone else on the information curve by at least 2 days.
Althouse without comments.
Take the poll.
Her final paragraph she whines ...
Those who voted in the bottom 2 categories — more than the ones who voted in the top categories, the supportive answers — reinforce me in my decision to go it alone here.
after stating up front ~ The poll is radically unscientific.
Indeed, when will Althouse stop rationalizing er getting her panties in a bunch re: her "earth shattering" decision?
One can only hope soon, very soon.
As her con flock would say, just let it go, bless her little heart, as she continues to argue w/herself er wallow in self-pity.
Boosh!
Still fighting?
By all means, Althouse: Go It Alone!
"Boosh!"
You suck at this.
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