Saturday, March 7, 2015

"Police shooting death of black man sparks protests in Wisconsin"

"A police officer followed the man back to an apartment, where the man reportedly attacked the officer. “The officer did draw his revolver and subsequently shot the subject,” Madison Police Chief Mike Koval said...

An editor for the UW-Madison student newspaper The Badger Herald tweeted a photo of the protest and reported that the crowd chanted “black lives matter,” a rallying cry that has gained prominence in the wake of the police-involved deaths of black men in Ferguson, Missouri, and Staten Island, New York.
 
(Update) The young man killed had prior arrests (ht Michael Haz)

68 comments:

chickelit said...

There are still lots of facts to come out on this: possible priors on the dead youth (a woman on a bullhorn last night called him "boy" which was demeaning, IMO).

The shooting happened in the heart of the Progressive district in Madison - the Willy St. neighborhood. If it gets ugly there, this will be a black mark against the progressives.

Madison rhymes with Ferguson -- watch for familiar patterns to develop...

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

19 years old is that border line where MSNBC is calling the deceased a man and NBC is calling him a teen.

"In July 2012, NBC acquired Microsoft's remaining stake in MSNBC.com, and re-branded it as NBCNews.com."

The bosses are calling him a teen and the underlings are calling him a man.

chickelit said...

@Lem: commenters over on TOP have conformed Haz' earlier tip about the youth's priors.

Amartel said...

Somebody answered the call and took the fall because Sharpton's taxes aren't going to pay themselves and the Dems need us at each other's throats. #BlackLivesAreCollateralPoliticalDamage

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

I'm not seeing this story trend on twitter where the 50th Anniversary of Selma is carrying the day so far.

The man/teen appears to have met an untimely death.

I'm just saying... no disrespect.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

"the youth's priors" might be another hurdle for the MSM to elevate the story to national status.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I wonder what happens when eventually the innocent victim of police racism is so light-skinned that white people can't chant "black lives matter" without pissing off black people.

chickelit said...

Eric the Fruit Bat wrote:

I wonder what happens when eventually the innocent victim of police racism is so light-skinned that white people can't chant "black lives matter" without pissing off black people.

Good question. The problem is that we are all beholdered to a higher standard.

Rabel said...

"The problem is that we are all beholdered to a higher standard."

I'll bet you just can't wait for the new AG to take over.

Rabel said...

Irish Setter.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

"beholdered"

zing!

you are in TOP form to day my friend.

ricpic said...

Oh goody goody, another chance to riot.

Trooper York said...

This should be entertaining.

Maybe they will loot the Whole Foods and burn down Starbucks.

bagoh20 said...

"Black lives matter."

Especially when there are only 5 in the whole town. That makes this genocide in Madison.

john said...

There have been 52 murders in Chicago so far this year. 44 of them have been perpetrated on black or Hispanic males, and many of them kids or teens.

Shouldn't that awful carnage count for something? Where are the Sharpton marches, and why hasn't the press descended on that town to cover this outrage? Don't black lives count in Chicago?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Maybe they will loot the Whole Foods and burn down Starbucks.

I think they are made of fire retardant materials.

They don't burn.
They can't burn.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Don't black lives count in Chicago?

They count when voting.

chickelit said...

Trooper York said...
This should be entertaining.

Maybe they will loot the Whole Foods and burn down Starbucks.


bagoh20 said...

Especially when there are only 5 in the whole town. That makes this genocide in Madison.

Madison lacks a certain critical mass for unrest but Chicago and Milwaukee are only hours away by interstate.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Madison lacks a certain critical mass for unrest but Chicago and Milwaukee are only hours away by interstate.

Not enough thrust to achieve escape velocity?

Trooper York said...

I wouldn't discount it so quickly. They have a bunch of stupid college kids, hipsters and a leavening of the criminal element to could all add up to a nice riot stew.

Couldn't happen to a nicer place.

Michael Haz said...

Black Lives Matter

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.

So no, those black lives don't matter. And remember, Planned Parenthood is an organization favored by while liberals, who make up the bulk of their financial donors.

Earlier this week, Fulton County, Georgia police officer Terence Green, a black man, s ambushed, shot in the head and killed by Amanuel Menghesha, a black man.

There were no protests, no threats of civil violence if there is no peace. Terence Green's life must not matter.

Also this week in Philadelphia, police officer Robert Wilson, a black man, was shot to death by two other black men, identified as Ramone Williams, 24, and Carlton Hipps, 29. Both had prior arrests, and police said Hipps had gotten out of prison in 2009. Officer Wilson had stopped at a video store to buy a gift for his 9 year old son, and was shot and killed during an attempted robbery.

There were no chants of "no justice, no peace" following Officer Wilson's murder. Apparently, his black life doesn't matter.

Just watch. Al Sharpton will show up in Madison. And he won't make any effort to show up in Philadelphia or Atlanta for the funerals of the dead officers.

Because the true chant is "Selected Black Lives Matter, Others Don't".

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

A wrinkle marshaling the forces necessary for the mission (protest the untimely death) might be that they are already committed elsewhere.

Selma anniversary weekend where Obama is going to be speaking is in happening.

Madison may have to wait.

chickelit said...

Madison has been put on holder until after this weekend.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Haz wants us to know that every black man's sperm is sacred.

I'm starting to find these stories exceedingly yawn-worthy. Yes, in a police state the cops have just as much right to shoot first and ask questions afterward of a black dude as they do of everyone else. Or even moreso, as the the thread sentiment here would indicate.

Anyway, my guess is this will be another story with tons of gray areas that everyone wants to paint in other colors. For a real hoot in the annals of being suspiciously alive and free while black, check out this wild yahoo.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Madison has been put on holder until after this weekend.

Isn't that what Obama told Putin's number 2?

'I will have more flexibility after Selma'

Don't quote me on that one ;)

Meade said...

Trooper York said...
" could all add up to a nice riot stew.
Couldn't happen to a nicer place."

The expressed sentiments of pure evil.

Third Coast said...

Somehow, someway, this'll all be tied to Scott Walker.

Third Coast said...

What're the odds that cops in Madison haven't had oodles of sensitivity training? The officer was probably trying to return the kids brass knuckles.

Trooper York said...

Good one Leisure Suit.

Don't clutch your pearls too tightly.

Rabel said...

Might want to keep this handy in case things heat up.

If they do, I just hope they have giant puppets.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Neat link Rabel. thanks.

rcocean said...

Maybe Left-wing Billionaire George Soros will pay for some Rent-a-rioters to show up in Madison.

Why should Madison be treated any different than Ferguson?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Hey, do cops in Madison wear body cams?

Maybe there is a recording of the shooting.

rcocean said...

Trooper is grumpy at times but I think pure evil is a stretch.

"Pure Evil" should be reserved for those who deserve it - like the 1977 New York Yankees.

edutcher said...

Hmm, if he was a college student, he must not be very bright, else he would have learned the lesson of Michael Brown.

Never bring a fist to a gunfight.

chickelit said...

Meade said: The expressed sentiments of pure evil.

So far the closest thing I've seen in this tragedy approaching "pure evil" is that witch who took the megaphone from the hands of the grieving grandmother and said that (paraphrasing) "we have been telling you over and over that if you don't release our black men from prison you will have another Ferguson." Why no opprobrium for her Meade? I don't want to see violence in Madison (my mother lives there). Why can't you recognize the personification of violence when she stares you in the face?

AllenS said...

Meade heard the dog whistle.

ndspinelli said...

The kid was convicted of armed robbery last Fall. He's on paper w/ the State.

ndspinelli said...

Err, was on paper.

ndspinelli said...

Here's the cross rip. The judge who placed the deceased on probation for armed robbery is a Walker appointment. This is a nightmare for all sides. LOL!

Michael Haz said...

Here is updated information about Tony Robinson.

H had already been given a get out of jail free card, being sentenced to a small fine and probation for an armed robbery.

Shouting Thomas said...

Jesus, that slime bag parasite, the Lawn Boy is back. Still wearing the hair shirt on behalf of white men. What a backstabber that bastard is!

And Ritmo. With the usual word salad signifying nothing, which he imagines to be clever.

Two morons in one post.

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ndspinelli said...

It's Sunday. Just sayn'!!

Trooper York said...

Hey a talking pussy on International Woman's Day!

Cool!

chickelit said...

Do you see the similarities — the similar expressions of pure evil?

Taken literally, Trooper's comments say that he believes that people in Madison brought this on themselves, so in that sense, he is like the woman.*

But Trooper is saying that appeasement leads to violence; the woman is saying that lack of appeasement leads to violence. It's a causality argument. And there is a difference.
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I don't endorse nor share Troop's venom towards Wisconsin and Madison in general. I grew up around there and still have relatives there. But the tell with Trooper's faux rage is that he hates the town of Green Bay more than any other Wisconsin town which ought to tell you something.

Meade said...

"Troop's venom"

"Venom" is another good word for it.

ven·om
ˈvenəm/Submit
noun
a poisonous substance secreted by animals such as snakes, spiders, and scorpions and typically injected into prey or aggressors by biting or stinging.
synonyms: poison, toxin; archaicbane
"snake venom"
extreme malice and bitterness shown in someone's attitudes, speech, or actions.
"his voice was full of venom"
synonyms: rancor, malevolence, vitriol, spite, vindictiveness, malice, maliciousness, ill will, acrimony, animosity, animus, bitterness, antagonism, hostility, bile, hate, hatred;

Trooper York said...

Chickie the numbers must be down and the Amazon portal must be dry.

Nothing new to see here.

Trooper York said...

It is a fun call back to years gone by but who gives a shit?

Trooper York said...

Oh wait. Somebody emailed me that TOP just started a new "subscription" service or some such bullshit.

That explains it.

Michael Haz said...

Whoa! Pay for the same crap that other can still see for free?

Genius idea!

Trooper York said...

Well Scott Walker wants to cut the bloat at the University so it is best to try get it while the getting is good.

Grifters gotta grift.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

If I owned NBC - I would hire Haz - & pay him a million dollars a year, to be a journalist.

A real one.

Michael Haz said...

Bless you, April.

They'd never let me past the front door.

Michael Haz said...

Well Scott Walker wants to cut the bloat at the University....

The cut that Governor Walker proposed is a cut to the state portion of the UW System funding. The state funding is about 20% of the overall university revenue stream.

The actual numbers work out to a cut of about 2.5% in the total budget. That's two and one half pennies per dollar. If the UW System cant find two and one half pennies per dollar in savings, they should be fired and new people brought in.

The dumbfucks who have PhDs can't figure this out. But the governor who didn't complete his college education can. It's like his enemies write his campaign material.

Meade said...

chickelit said...
Why no opprobrium for her Meade?

What you quote her as saying: “we have been telling you over and over that if you don't release our black men from prison you will have another Ferguson,” deserves harsh criticism.

Compare her purported expression to Trooper’s (above, which I quote verbatim): “They have a bunch of stupid college kids, hipsters and a leavening of the criminal element to could all add up to a nice riot stew. Couldn't happen to a nicer place. This should be entertaining. Maybe they will loot the Whole Foods and burn down Starbucks.”

Do you see the similarities — the similar expressions of pure evil?

chickelit said...
I don't want to see violence in Madison (my mother lives there).

NIMMBY (Not in my mother's back yard)?

chickelit said...

Not in your backyard either, Meade!

Michael Haz said...

Black Lives Matter!

Except in Madison, actually. Mad City is among the most racially segregated cities in America. Blacks don't live where university administrators or professors live, unless they are the very few black administrators or professors UW has hired.

UW has a whopping 2% black student population. Quite an accomplishment, innit?

Madison had the worst graduation rate for African-American students in the state's 20 largest districts in 2012-2013. The city also boasted the third-largest achievement gap between black and white students - a difference of more than 30 percent.

A well-crafted and well-supported proposal to open a school for at-risk black males in Madison was shot down by the lily-white teachers union because the proposal did not include union members as faculty. Because #unionlivesmatter much more than #blacklives matter.

So when someone form a lily-white background living in a lily-white neighborhood in a mostly lily-white Madison starts lecturing on morality, it's best to judge not by words, but by actions.

Meade said...

Michael Haz said...
"[...] it's best to judge not by words, but by actions."

What's your judgement on Trooper's action of using words to express his vile venom, Michael?

Meade said...

"Entertained" by the "nice riot stew" yet, Troop?

Trooper York said...

Not yet. But give it time.

Instead I can enjoy watching Scott Walker cut the University Budget. Hopefully he will cut the deadwood so you better find some new revenue streams. Maybe you can do a bake sale to add to your portal and subscription service.

Better yet if you ever get invited to another professors house you can check the couch cushions for change.

ndspinelli said...

There is a GOOD law blog where some of us are commenting. Jonathan Turley is a successful law prof and is always working big and interesting cases; giving us some real world experiences, as well as knowing the law much better than the ham n' egger in Madison.

Michael Haz said...

What's your judgement on Trooper's action of using words to express his vile venom, Michael?

My judgement is that you are a sanctimonious jerk who is making a feeble attempt to set up a straw man argument, and I'm not buying into it.

Because #TrooperLivesMatter

Trooper York said...

Nick put his finger on it. You see many commenters have moved on to real law blogs such as Turley and Legal Insurrection. I hear that numbers at the old pop stand are down big time. So he has to come over here to lift up his dress and drum up some business.

Even the Evil Blogger Lady's number one fan and alter ego Inga has moved on to be the number one poster at Turley's blog. That must sting.

Meade said...

@chickelit,
Thank you.

Meade said...

Looks like THIS will come as a disappointment to hustlers like Trooper and Crack who were hoping for another entertaining stew of riots to fill their evil needs.

Trooper York said...

My needs being filled just fine Leisure Suit.

Why don't you go take care of your needs on your meal tickets blog?

Seriously. Can't you stand outside with one of those signs to whirl around on the interstate to get contributions to keep you in dirty jeans and pancakes?