Thursday, May 14, 2020

WKRLEM TV: What comes next!



I just finished viewing the "Waco" miniseries on Netflix. It's a show from a few years ago from Showtime that I did not catch the first time around.

It starts with the illegal and egregious attack on Randy Weaver by the FBI. It ends with children being murdered by the FBI and ATF in the guise of protecting them.

What was the reasons for attacking the Branch Dividians? They were molesting children? So do the homosexuals in the Catholic Church. The leader was having sex with multiple woman who he claimed as his wives? Ever hear of the Mormons? Or your local congressman. These women had a choice. Some had left the compound for just that reason. They weren't prisoners. There are people who live in religious communities all over this country. Mormons. Orthodox Jews. The Amish. People free to worship and live as they see fit. Until the government decides to move against them.

Now the government is moving against all of us. They have determined that our religious practices are "Non-essetial." It is a very short step to sending in the Good Germans to enforce their will.

Waco was not a one off. It was the canary in the coalmine. It was the future. It told us where we are now.

Highly recommended must see TV.

Your town could be Waco. Sooner than you know.

21 comments:

ndspinelli said...

Good series. There's a good doc on Ruby Ridge done by PBS, I believe. It has extensive interviews of the daughters. Waco was a good series. I'm watching an Erroll Morris series, Wormwood. It's about the death of a CIA scientist[Frank Olson] who was given LSD w/o knowing and ended up dead, plumetting from a NYC hotel in 1953. It's a hybrid acting and real people interviewers. Sixty went to school w/ the youngest son of Frank Olson, Nils Olson. The CIA project was MKULTRA and it was fucked up!

Amartel said...

I just finished that, too, and learned a lot I didn't know. Like, I didn't know that the ATF was trying to recover its reputation after Ruby Ridge. I'd also forgotten that the initial pretext was a search warrant for a modified gun. They came in super hot and apparently Koresh was ready to come out but someone opened fire, probably shooting the dogs that were on site, which triggered a firestorm in which people on both sides were shot. Then the siege was on. The series is based on a book written in part by a survivor so I don't necessarily believe it all, especially the portrayal of the Branch Davidians as just normal folk with some sweet Biblical notions. At the time, the main scandal was focused on Janet Reno and her approval of the final military style assault on the compound. Probably because that was a way to get after Clinton. That asshat. Not sure if this was before or after her full tilt military removal and repatriation of the Cuban kid from his American relatives. Like, the one immigrant the left couldn't bear to let into the country.

edutcher said...

Willie wanted to show he was a tough law and order kind of guy. It went with his promise to put 100,000 more cops on the streets. Didn't make the streets safer, just gave a lot of mayors a ton (literally) of diversity hires who owed him/her their job.

Now said mayors have their own private armies. Can't shoot straight. Are bigger than the MRAPs they ride around in.

But they say they're the law.

Amartel said...

Not sure if this was before or after her full tilt military removal and repatriation of the Cuban kid from his American relatives.

Waco was at the start of Dogpatch (remember, he went through 2 heterosexual women AGs before the only one that didn't have nanny problems was queer). Elian was right near the end.

Like, the one immigrant the left couldn't bear to let into the country.

That's because they would raise him as a Commie.

deborah said...

Well, I'm sure it's excellent, and I would get sucked in, but I have to draw the line somewhere. Not actually my cup of tea. I have other shows stacked up to here.

chickelit said...

Not gonna fly in my household. It's all about the gay here.

Case in point: My daughter is home visiting for a day and she and my wife are binge-watching "RuPaul Drag Race." They know I cannot stand that show. The daughter is also very indigent about politics, and we already had one big disagreement about getting out of cover. I'm going out for a bike ride now.

Just what is it about females and their adoration of the gay male? Why is it of such supreme importance?

ndspinelli said...

I have always seen the female adoration of the gays being about power, a feeling of physical/emotional attachment and feeling the gay male can exert gentle power w/o sexual dominance. Many girls in their youth felt that equality w/ boys prior to puberty. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Sorry for your angst. Going for a bike ride was a good idea.

MamaM said...

Sounds likely to me, nd. I've long held that the 13th birthday is when the sweetness, humor, playfulness, openness and creativity so wonderfully present in young boys up to that date takes a dive and goes under wraps for a while.

I wonder how those two differently aged women would respond if they were curiously asked to share (without judgment) what they enjoy about the show and what they experience (or what comes up for them) when they watch it together?

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Waco was excellent. I did a reveiew not long after this shut down happened. I lost track of time.

deborah said...

I feel your pain, chick. Because I love Project Runway, and have grown to appreciate America's top model and Say Yes to the Dress, through watching many episodes with my daughter, I checked out RuPaul's. Thanks, but no thanks!

Back in the day I considered myself a fruit fly. I've always appreciated gay men, and still do. The cloying hyper queen-ness of the clips I watched were very off-putting to ME. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate a good queen, whether an old guy who never came out, or someone in drag on the stage. But RuPaul's, I read as an act, not an expression of self. Hey, they're working through something. Fine with me, but not my cup 'o tea.

I have no problem with what other people like, eg, Duck Dynasty. My kids and some of their cousins liked it. I'm like wtf?

That's why there's netflix :)

deborah said...

Nick, interesting thoughts. I don't THINK that's it for me, but maybe deep down, psychologically, that's it :)

It's more the quirky factor. I like all kinds of people and revel in their individuality. I was the kid who liked the unpopular teachers, and liked the oldsters who many found very annoying. I got a kick out of them and they were great storytellers.

Trooper York said...

Having political arguments with the family is the worst chickie.

You daughter will grow out of it in time. Hopefully.

The reason why women have good feelings about the gay is because they never had to deal with them in real life. If they did they would have a very different perspective.

The Dude said...

Say Yes to the Dress reminds me of a show I used to watch, I think it came on just before SYTTD. Featured a mook from Brooklyn and his wife in their store and all the "customers" they had to deal with. Now don't get me wrong, I depend on customers for a sizable chunk of my income, but damn, they could try the patience of Job. Cheese and crackers, as some would say. Wonder whatever happened to that irascible old grouch - he had some good snark and one liners, just sayin'.

deborah said...

Hey, Trooper's a dramaqueen but he's our dramaqueen :)

MamaM said...
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MamaM said...

Have you found your soul sister over at Althouse yet, deborah? If not, I encourage you to wander over and check out some of the evening cafe threads there before that blog goes full subscriber. Since the banishment of Ritmo and the advent of Covid-19, there's been a female commenter (a pharmaceutical rep and an amateur runner to boot!) who's been regularly showing up at night with a dynamic and enlivening form of presentation and invitation. It's been impressive to see her expressed individuality invigorating and in essence, managing the tone of those threads! She has a bold and breezy, quirky yet knowledgeable way of storytelling and opinion sharing you might revel in, enjoy, or at the least, get a kick out of reading. I know I do.

Even more fun than watching her work, is the fact that she calls herself, Anne-I-Am. Is that a hoot or what???

On the subject of pain, not being able to stand, female adoration, and perceptions of supreme importance, words serve as the sometimes clumsy sometimes precise conveyors of more. They're the pencil lines used to sketch a picture, the ink used to form a "thought print". Consideration of the energy or thought behind their particular selection and use can be helpful if more understanding is actually being sought.

deborah said...

A total hoot. I know there are those who still frequent Althouse. I do not, so have not seen this charming wonder. So happy for you to have found someone you approve of.

MamaM said...

Did I find someone I approve of as you suggest, deborah? Or did I find someone whose efforts I appreciate, consider, enjoy (to a point), and ponder over, as I do yours?

I actually find that charming wonder of a commenter fascinating, while withholding approval for now, as something about the story and character presented does not yet ring completely true. Integrity matters and time will tell. Until then she's fun, diverting and a little disconcerting to watch in action, bringing to mind the "things are not as they seem" meme TY (as "our" collective dramaqueen! How fun is that!!) holds as his mantra, especially fitting in our current Stay Safe, Masked or Unmasked era.

Trooper's personal observation regarding the change in perspective that can accompany real-life work experience hits one nail on the head.

A similar shift takes place when desire for ongoing relationship with a family member and their same-sex partner requires the respect and consideration needed to move beyond stereotype, adoration or blind acceptance.

deborah said...

Thanks for clarifying MamaM.

chickelit said...

Great comment Nick. I came back and they were gone, out walking the dog. Then they hunkered down for the finale. I retreated into my man cave until the whole thing ended.

Troop, if by "deal with in real life", you meant not feeling predatory advances, then I get it. They are sheltered from that.

Deborah, yes, they too were fans of Heidi. I just thought it insensitive to spend essentially the bulk of her time watching it.

And MamaM, Anne-I-Am is an interesting handle. It's an obvious riff on reader-I-am or just a coincidence?

The Dude said...

I took a chance, stopped by Nuthouse and man, old retired Ann has gone bug-fucking-nuts! This lockdown has driven what little portion of sober sanity that remained completely from her mush-filled skull.

Looks like little needy Meade will be inheriting her vast estate any day now. Bitch be bonkers!

Now I must shower - what a degenerate place!

deborah said...

Well, scanning the post titles, it looks like same old same old.

I wish her well, but find reading her posts nothing special, and the comments a time sink. The people I like most are at Lem's, so it's win-win for me. We few, we get-off-my-lawn few :)