Saturday, June 1, 2019

Don Surber, Never-Trumper shows his ignorance

Surber read something by Philip Klein in the Washington Examiner. Surber calls him a Bill Kristol wannabe who says Trump's tariff warning to Mexico "is mindbogglingly stupid," then asks, how difficult is it to boggle the mind of a Never Trumper?

See, the tariffs are a warning.

A warning against Obrador's stated attitude and intended policy regarding South American migrants and the United States.

He's got a bug up his ass about the United States, "No country will use Mexico as piñata." That, after NAFTA results in billions of American manufacturing relocating to Mexico and American middle class drains while Mexican middle class builds.

All the references I've seen go to Daily Caller. Apparently Daily Caller is singular in picking this up. I'm reading on American Thinker but they're linking to Daily Caller. Daily Caller refers to eluniversal.com where this video in Spanish is published.


Eluniversal has the transcript.

But it's in Spanish.

And it cannot be copy/pasted

So you'll have to rely on moy.

I meant to say rely on moi.
Andrés Manuel López Obrador, candidato presidencial por la coalición Juntos Haremos Historia, protestó por lo sucedido en Estados Unidos con los niños migrantes encerrados en jaulas y pidió al Presidente Enrique Peña Nieto acciones urgentes para  detener la actitud prepotente, racista e inhumana del gobierno de Donald Trump. 
Al arrancar su discurso en un mitin en esta ciudad, el candidato de Morena-PES-PT exigió al presidente Peña Nieto que ponga en marcha tres acciones urgentes: 
La primera se trata de una nota diplomática de protesta contra gobierno de Donald Trump; la segunda es solicitar la urgente intervención del alto comisionado de la Organización de las Naciones Unidas (ONU) y que se detenga esa actitud prepotente, racista, inhumana de deportar a niños ponerlos en jaulas y separarlos de sus padres. Eso va en contra de los derechos humanos más fundamentales.  
Y la tercera que Peña Nieto envié de inmediato un equipo de profesionales a la frontera, abogados, psicólogos, trabajadores sociales para apoyar a los niños y sus familiares. 
Adelantó que va a estar pendiente en estos días por las acciones represivas, racistas e inhumanas del gobierno estadounidense. 
El tabasqueño afirmó que, de ganar la presidencia, se va a convertir en un defensor de los migrantes del continente Americano y del mundo. 
"Y ya pronto, muy pronto, al triunfo de nuestro movimiento vamos a defender a los migrantes de todo el continente Americano y todos los migrantes del mundo que, por necesidad, tienen que abandonar sus pueblos para buscar la vida en Estados Unidos, es un derecho humano que vamos a defender," expresó. 
Look, Asshole. You talk about being disrespected while being disrespectful by mischaracterizing the situation so woefully to misplace blame, conveniently omitting crucial elements that hold the understanding in favor of slippery superficial careless skimming. You are speaking ignorantly to ignorant people and not helping them comprehend the situation at all.

Arrogant, racist and inhumane attitude of the Donald Trump government? F you. Do you honestly expect American taxpayers to simply scoop up and absorb all that you deliver? Do you expect us to forfeit our civilization for yours?

After your sick mischaracterizations and your bizarre worldview why should we even talk to you instead of smacking you around like a piñata?
Andrés Manuel López Obrador, presidential candidate for the Together We Make History coalition, protested what happened in the United States with migrant children locked in cages and asked President Enrique Peña Nieto for urgent actions to stop the arrogant, racist and inhumane attitude of Donald Trump's government. 
When starting his speech at a rally in this city, the candidate of Morena-PES-PT demanded President Peña Nieto launch three urgent actions: 
The first one is a diplomatic note of protest against Donald Trump's government; the second is to request the urgent intervention of the high commissioner of the United Nations (UN) to stop this arrogant, racist, inhuman attitude of deporting, and separating children from their parents and putting them in cages. This goes against the most fundamental human rights. 
And the third that Peña Nieto immediately send a team of professionals to the border; lawyers, psychologists, social workers to support the children and their families.
He said these days he will be keeping an eye on the repressive, racist and inhuman actions of the US government. 
The Tabascqueño affirmed that, if he wins the presidency, he will become an advocate for migrants from the Americas and the world. 
"And soon, very soon, to the triumph of our movement, we will defend migrants from all over the American continent and all the migrants in the world who, by necessity, have to leave their villages to seek life in the United States. It's a human right that we are going to defend, "he said.
Know what goes against fundamental human rights? Encouraging vulnerable people to leave their homes en mass, to give up on their own self-governing, and instead endure a dangerous journey with no resources, relying on the handouts of others, a journey fraught with hazards natural and manmade, and organized by criminals to invade a neighboring country en mass to overwhelm their government resources and bring their civilization to ruin.

By necessity must leave their villages to seek life in the United States.

Entire towns emptied. Whole cities depopulated, and transferred to United States. Why? No addressing root causes like sick-ass governments. Pathetic cultures. And the answer is just move all the poverty out.

Repressive, racist, inhumane actions of US government.

No, that's cynical, race-baiting, unconscionable actions of Mexican government to make themselves Slip N Slide speedway through Mexico to United States border. Mexico has control of its own southern border. Mexico has strict and exclusive immigration policies. Mexico protects its own culture. And what's so necessary about bypassing Mexico? Is this Mexico's way of  admitting that immigrating to Mexico is tantamount to moving from one shit hole to another? How bizarre to insist that another country must open its borders. Just F you.

It's the same thing as Ireland admitting, "Man, we really blew it with that whole potato thing." And potatoes are American! Feeding their entire population relied on one American vegetable. And their political system was too jacked to handle their own population, and their population too weak to overturn their own government.

Solution: move to America en mass.

Problem with German hegemony. Solution: move to America en mass.

Problem with crime and poor government and zero economic potential. Solution: move to America en mass.

That's not leadership. That's currying favor among political retards. The man actually has his  audience believing this bullshit. He insists Mexico will not be a piñata to foreign governments as he behaves as piñata to foreign governments.

The comments in Spanish to this article on eluniversal prove the extremely sorry state of comprehension. As do the comments to the same video published on YouTube.

Back to Philip Klein.

Klein states the tariff amounts to tax increase. And it punishes industries that will be affected by inevitable retaliatory tariffs.

Surber says,  wrong. Tariff is a voluntary tax avoided by buying American-made products.

Klein says this comes as Trump is jump starting his US/Mex/Can agreement.

Surber say, nice to see a Never Trumper side with him on NAFTA.

Klein wrote, the previous administration's tariffs were part of a broader strategy to negotiate better trade deals but Trump is lumping tariffs with border control.

Surber says, of course they are linked. Mexico traded welfare cases for jobs with the United States ever since Reagan who promised enforcement but never delivered.

Surber should have said Mexico received both America's production and America's welfare state as pressure valve needed because of Mexico's shit hole 3rd world banana republic sitting so closely next to shimmering glimmering alluring crime-controlled politically successful Nirvana by way of sharp contrast constantly teasing a life that could be.

It's adage in Mexico: "Poor Mexico, so far from heaven, so close to America" that's supposed to be ironically derogatory toward American somehow. We're not heaven, but somehow we vex poor lovely innocent Mexico by our geological nearness.

Klein writes, it's hard to see how this facilitates containing Mexican immigration. Better to improve Mexican economy.

Surber writes, that's what NAFTA said.  We went from 3 million illegals to 11 million under NAFTA.

But Surber should have said, there's a lot that's difficult for Klein to see. It's not Mexican immigration, rather, it's countries south of Mexico. It's Obrador's stated policy to facilitate South American immigration, not just Mexican immigration. It's seen by Mexico stopping it flat at Mexico's own southern border.

Klein writes, it's unclear how all this will be measured.

Surber writes, that's the essence of negotiation. Trump's critics always say this as if it's a bad thing.

Then, comments usually rather tight, run off the rails by the same narrow perspective that Klein has and that Navarro's interlocutors show in the previous post. They address tariffs in relation to production and consumers as two closed sets, while the consumers are also suffering the expense of unchecked invasion of both labor and welfare cases in numbers too extreme to absorb.

The various costs of all those things are not calculated in their economic models. They're too amorphous to get a clear handle on so they're all simply ignored.

The cost in terms of schools, in terms of prisons, and policing, and acceptance of voter fraud, hospital care, healthcare in general, the very basics in food, clothing, housing, education, disease control, even racial disruption.

In steady amount, by controlled flow, all of that is manageable, but when governments themselves encourage this movement in massive numbers it's obviously destructive to host countries. Why are we even having this argument? Why are these things that are so very clear to all sides even under discussion?  When you begin your bullshit with "arrogant, racist and inhumane attitude of Donald Trump's government" then you haven't a good leg to stand on. Not after tapping America's production  and relying upon American market and depending upon American welfare to care for your own population.

4 comments:

edutcher said...

AMLO is talking to the unwashed, both here and in Mexico.

I think it speaks volumes he's already asked Trump for talks.

YMMV

chickelit said...

These people have a natural right to migrate here, so says Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. She's been saying this for years now. She is about to amp up the braying.

chickelit said...

Arrogant, racist and inhumane attitude of the Donald Trump government? F you. Do you honestly expect American taxpayers to simply scoop up and absorb all that you deliver? Do you expect us to forfeit our civilization for yours?

Of course they do. This has become plain as day. If you think what American schools are now teaching kids about Guadalupe Hidalgo, imagine what Mesomericans are learning about that in their schools. It's Desitiny manifiesto in reverse.

ricpic said...

Firstly, a thousand dittos to chick's "Of course they do."

It's us or the Latinos. And it's deadly. You either understand that at the gut level or you're an "elite."