Saturday, September 29, 2018

Trump granted one week for Flake's insistence on FBI to investigate allegations against Kavenaugh

FBI has already investigated Kavanaugh six times. And there is nothing to Ford's story to investigate. So this demand is not about discovering truth.

Trump concedes limited FBI investigation, Democrats respond immediately the investigation must be open ended and "this is only one step in the process."

They've made themselves clear. It's not about truth, it's about delay and that delay is about power. Power they don't have so they'll get it back by other means, flying over, digging under, blasting through, bringing forward crackpots in series from their endless catch basin of political crackpots, bringing the crazy, bringing the straight up insane, bringing the liars, bringing the paid, creating chaos by all means possible from literally endless possible means from an infinite catch basin of mentally emotionally worked up perturbed. Exactly as our thoroughly corrupted media prefers.

My own views are irrelevant to this situation; physical attacks are a police matter. No police report, then so far as law is concerned it didn't happen. Make your police report when the victimization happens or stfd and stfu.

So what do other people presumably smarter than me say? I see two opposing views.

First, a man (group) whom I've come to rely upon for insight. Sundance:
The Democrats are smart.  They have now positioned the investigation such that any perceived interference by the White House will be weaponized.  The public narrative will be to demand “independence” for the FBI; this allows them to manipulate the investigative parameters from within.  Their operatives are already in place.
If President Trump, or any executive branch official acting on his behalf, attempts to set limits on the FBI investigation of a supreme court nominee, the President will have established the legal grounds for his impeachment.  I know these people.  I know their playbook.  As Mr. Bromwich and Ms. Katz stated this is “a step in their process“.
Ms. Ford will avoid being available for an interview for as long as possible.  She will then provide a name of a critical witness…. who will also avoid being available for an interview for a long as possible…. who will eventually also give a name of a corroborating witness, perhaps with recordings,…  who will avoid being available for an interview for as long as possible…. And so it will go, and so it will go.
Within each step, each day in the process, the insider narrative engineers will be leaking “explosive developments” to the media; who will engage their readers with constructs of wide-eyed interest.  Everyone will be enthralled; thousands of leads will be developed; the nation will be absorbed… Democrats will control every nuance.
Here's the link if you care to read more along these lines. 2,000+ comments tend to be perspicacious.

Contrary to the above view Dov Fisher writes for The American Spectator; Why One More Frustrating Week Helps Kavanaugh and the GOP. Subtitled: Lots of good will come this November from hanging in there.

It's a short few typed pages that can be expressed in bullet points.

* The Resistance regularly portrays Trump as bull-headed irrational authoritarian who listens to no one.

* This will be the 7th FBI investigation into Kavanaugh's background.

* There is a huge tug-of-war between parties over the suburban white female voter.

* Democrats wanted the nation's women to be appalled by the harsh treatment the hoped would unfold brutally as Republican Senators tore into her story's inconsistencies and uncertainties.

* By being harsh on Ford, the GOP would lose undecided voters, particularly reasonable openminded women.

* GOP avoided that trap by using Ms Mitchell to do the uncovering and justify non-Resisters moving ahead with Kavanaugh selection and voting Republican in November.

* As Democrats saw their early gains disappear they gathered around their last desperate tactic to demand for an FBI investigation to "clear Kavanaugh's name."

* Half the country sees through the mendacity and nonsense.

* But half the country does not.

* Republicans lose little but gain a great deal by demonstrating to middle-road and fair-minded women voters that the gang-attack depictions on CNN and MSNBC and other media are false and that Republicans are fair and reasonable by going along with one more pointless FBI investigation and background check.

* Democrats cannot admit that what they really want is not an FBI investigation but actually a song without an end Robert Mueller style investigation for the nex two years, or thee years, or four years, of a party whose location is not identified, date unknown, one that Ford cannot explain how she got there nor how she got home.

* ABA, Jeff Flake, Alan Dershowitz will be satisfied, Kavanaugh will have his 7th FBI clearance, Susan Collins, Joe Manchin will be covered

* Republican tip-toeing past the pitfalls that loomed before the Ford inquiry and elicited some key inconsistencies in her accounts without leaving her sobbing which is what Democrats were counting on.

* While offering Kavanaugh a forum before a riveted nation to clear his name for those open to hearing his narrative without pre-judging the judge.

* Many in the Republic base are now energized as they were not before.

That's basically it. The rest is further elaboration of these points.

Too many of the points appears arguable. Presuming ABA will be satisfied, for example. Assuming the Democrats are not already digging up more victims from their infinite supply of willing victims, for example. Ignoring all signs of delay as trap. The Very first comment to this article on the Spectator goes back Sundance's main point.
Do you actually think the Democrats are not, at this moment, desperately looking for new "victims" of Brett Kavanaugh? Certainly there are more 50ish women SJW types out there who lived within a hundred miles of Kavanaugh willing, if not eager, to claim he abused them. As soon as they pop up we can be sure the Democrats will have them on the lefty cable news channels demanding that the "investigation" be again extended. This will give Flake, Collins and Murkowski all they need to refuse to vote for Kavanaugh.
Trump is much better at all of this than I could ever be. His concern is the midterms so much as it is getting Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. My pov is narrow. Trump's pov is broad. Trump is thinking about those suburban women, and I am not. Trump is thinking about all possible voters and time available to use to convince them while I assume everyone's opinion is already chiseled in granite. Trump senses he has nothing to fear from Democrats digging up more victims and Democrat underhanded plans to handicap him. But I do. I fear the depths and extent that Democrats are willing to sink and to go, but Trump does not. I think that Trump is counting on this time to get Republican voters worked up to assure that that they get out and vote.

This Dan Bongino video (of a radio show) is indicative of the fierce counter-Resistance that I think Trump is relying on to develop in the weeks before the election, and stringing out the Kavanaugh confirmation helps that. I couldn't listen to the guy's voice for more than five minutes. I couldn't take being yelled at any longer. Along with the fair-minded open-minded suburban females presumed to exist, this is the counter-chaos known to exist that I think Trump seeks to engender.

10 comments:

edutcher said...

OK, we have a couple of anecdotal points here, but they're all we have.

Commie News Net held some kind of Frank Luntz-type focus group and it was a lot different than they expected in their support for Brother Bret.

The other is the much-quoted Puffington poll saying 3/4 of the country sees through the mendacity and nonsense.

Many female commenters have mentioned sons, brothers, husbands, and other family and friends being slimed by such a crew, so it's a bigger deal than some might imagine.

Personally, AZ should have replaced Flake when they replaced St John of Hanoi. Murki probably should be investigated by the Feds instead of Kavanaugh, and the Last of the Weird Sisters from Maine should be retired for senility, if it were mine to do.

It's one more screw-up, although Trump seems to have a personal hand now and that's better than anyone else. At this point, Chuckie Schumer will be butting heads with Trump and he's not up to messing with the God Emperor.

The vote today may turn out to be the confirmation.

Do you actually think the Democrats are not, at this moment, desperately looking for new "victims" of Brett Kavanaugh?

Not sure about this, but Senate rules may prohibit any new allegations, so they would have to go with Dr Crazy.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

bad move.

This only gives the corruptocrats more stall tactics and more time for false allegations to roll in - and those false allegations will need another FBI investigation.

windbag said...

No matter what the left will not let up. If Ford recanted tomorrow, the left wouldn't believe her (wait...what??!!) and would maintain that she was bullied into silence. No investigation will be long enough or extensive enough to suit them. They will always claim that it was rigged.

I think this cursory investigation will provide cover for the RINOs to claim that they performed due diligence and can justify their vote, so hopefully he's confirmed within a week or so. We miss a couple of cases with his input, but in the big picture, if we get him confirmed we've slowed the slide into hell that this country is on.

Imagine the circus surrounding the next pick. The left was pretty well prepared this time, scrubbing her exposure on the internet. The next accuser is probably already being coached. A qualified candidate not already on the radar of the left is probably impossible to find. A dark horse congressional candidate is one thing, but a SCOTUS justice doesn't suddenly drop from the heavens. Maybe if they can find a lower judge that catapults to the top? I'm no expert, but I'd guess that the next one is already being targeted.

This is one screwed up country at the moment.

windbag said...

Best case scenario at this point is that on Monday morning the FBI submits its report, showing that one week was more than generous. If they take the entire week, it suggests that more time should be given.

edutcher said...

They never do let up on anything and they figure to wear the opposition down because we have to get up in the morning and go to work. Keep in mind, after November afew less Demos, a few less Whigs.

windbag said...

Imagine the circus surrounding the next pick

They have scores to settle with The Donald. Big Whoop.

Their big whine against Barrett (anybody laying odds it won't be Notorious?) will be she's Catholic and she hates women because only Lefty womyn are real women, etc.

They need a new model for Borking because this one's wearing out. Antifa promises war in the streets if Brother Bret is confirmed.

Make my day.

In the immortal words of William Tecumseh Sherman, "The more we kill today, the fewer we have to kill tomorrow".

The sex thing is also wearing out, thanks in no small matter that people know women come forward just because the Demos are looking, or in search of a quick payday. And a lot of women love their men more than they love the Sisterhood, as '16 proved. Tougher sell next time.

The biggest problem is Trump doesn't fold. With a few more R votes in the Senate, they've had it.

Fr Martin Fox said...

As frustrating as all this is, it doesn't help the Democrats in the long run.

Every day this goes on, and the more histrionics and dirty tricks, the more and more angry -- and fearful -- conservative voters will get. Angry over the outrages, and fearful of what will happen if the Democrats get more power. Say what you want about Sen. Lindsey Graham, but he nailed it on that point. Every Republican candidate ought to be making this point coast to coast. They are coming after you if they get more power. Don't give it to them.

ricpic said...

Given the total knavery of the Democrats any concession to them is a bad idea. Who knows what they'll concoct in the coming week? We don't know but we do know they've got lots of bright eyed bushy tailed clever devils working on their staffs who are right this minute cooking up schemes to launch in the week they've been granted.

edutcher said...

You nailed it, Padre.

But I think not only Conservatives, but Independents and a good many Moderates can be included.

Amartel said...

All we can do is hope that the second scenario plays out. I see signs that it might.
Also, that Feinstein gets beat. That nasty bitch. I cannot vote for her opponent as her opponent is an even bigger and more revolting fraud than she is and I’d rather delay the day he gets a toehold in the Senate. (Cali now has a system where the two highest vote totals in the primary run against each other.)
California! Whaddya gonna do? At least we’re not Illinois. So we’ve got THAT going for us.
Speaking of Caddyshack ... Apparently Ford’s dad was president of the local country club when she was growing up, prompting this observation at Instapundit: So what this comes down to is Lacy Underall accusing Danny Noonan of making untoward advances 35 years after the fact. In the mean time, Al Czervik has ascended to the presidency.

windbag said...

They are coming after you if they get more power.

Truth.