I've come to enjoy Peterson, not for his particular stances on post-modernist radical Marxist ideology, because I think he's finally reached what I concluded decades ago. No, I enjoy Peterson for his ability to be precise with his words. The way he speaks and thinks about what he is going to see. He doesn't really vacillate in the Obama era of thinking of shit to say with the Um's and Uh's and near infinite stutter to find the right lie.
I've already met him twice and we've had some nice chats. I'm seeing him again in Phoenix at one of his lectures in June I think. He really is a nice guy.
Yeah, he is a great antidote to Marxism, but my problems are all mine - my hearing loss prevents me from merely turning on the video and listening to him speak - I have to turn on the closed captions and read what is said. That is time consuming as I can't do other things and absorb what is going on.
A friend asked if I had looked into getting hearing aids. I said "Huh?"
Yeah, it's an old joke, but old jokes are the best.
The study was done by the armed forces to determine I.Q. of the population for recruitment purposes. They concluded 10% of the population has I.Q below 83. They determined there is nothing in the armed services these people can do that isn't counterproductive.
Does that shock you?
No. It does not.
Because we see them online everyday. They've mastered use of internet connection and keyboard and they've mastered parroting late night Democrat entertainers but they're absent cognitive ability beyond that.
The casual extension that there is nothing for them to do that isn't counterproductive in society as a whole because armed forces determined there's nothing they can do in their portion of society, is false.
Because there's plenty they do in society that isn't counterproductive.
I know this firsthand.
Because I'm retarded.
No wait! I meant to say I trained people with severe learning disabilities at the FRB and they were the most reliable people on my staff.
True fact.
Reliable as all get out. Utterly reliable.
* anecdote*
Change in workflow required I change worker's hours. They must come in 1 hour earlier and leave one hour earlier.
Everyone accepted that with no problem except the resident retard.
Apologies for being so blunt.
She is a lovely woman and she worked there longer than I have. She did repetitive things very well.
We had a lot of fun together. Saying and doing silly things along with a lot of good work.
But she couldn't handle the change. It was too much to think about.
So I gave her special attention. Careful attention to details and spoke to her as if she is a child. Her main problem was the bus. I had her bring in a bus schedule so I could help her figure it out.
Turns out, the bus schedule is designed for retards.
The whole thing is exactly the same hour to hour. No change at all. Just do the exact same thing you always do except one hour earlier. And the best thing about it is, you get out earlier too. Yay! Less crowded, coming and going.
Wake up an hour earlier, bathe an hour earlier, get dressed exactly an hour earlier, put on your makeup an hour earlier, drink coffee precisely one hour earlier, go to the bus stop one hour earlier, do the same thing going home.
Next day. "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
And so on. The key is repetition.
AND IT WAS BIG!
A real genuine cause for celebration. She boldly faced the unknown. She is heroine of her own life challenges. She totally pulled it off. Success!
Of all the people I worked with, looking back at it, she is one of my all time favorite people. Right there at the top.
And she is not the only one.
So, that is the flaw in the suggestion that there is no work for 10% of the population below 80 I.Q. or 83 I.Q., whatever that number was. The premise is wrong. So the conclusion is wrong. And, no, I'm not depressed or shocked by the number. If I.Q. is charted as bell curve with standard deviations, that means 10% of the population has I.Q. of 120 and above and, frankly, that's awesome.
Thank you for linking this deborah. I listened to the entire thing -- it was long -- in two sittings. I had heard so much about this guy lately that my curiosity was piqued. I was not disappointed. He, at times, made me reflect on decades of things I had learned. I especially liked his take on Nietzsche. And did you pick up his "trickster" reference to Derrida? I thing that set off rhhardin a couple weeks ago on Althouse.
Glad you liked the vid, chick. I did not listen past the keyed time, as I wanted to post it before I left.
I like your gas analogy. This would be a laissez-faire economy? :
"Thinking in reverse, the only way to increase the average energy content of the entire ensemble is to raise the temperature. While individual atoms have different energies, they are constantly exchanging energy and levels of energy. A low energy gas atom can (and does) become a high energy gas atom via collisions and energy exchanges with its neighbors and environment."
Chip, no arguments that low IQers can perform tasks, I think Peterson was referring only the military, where, just going through boot camp would be hard...marksmanship, maps, marching drills, etc.
RH did make a comment here once when I posted a clip with Peterson deriding Derrida...something like, 'that poor guy has no idea what post-modernism is.'
He can communicate deep think thoughts in a comprehensible and interesting way. Jung and Nietzsche are too deep for me, but he talks about them in an accessible, non pretentious way.. If you think that's easy, just try to drop a Nietzsche aphorism into casual conversation........He's demonstrably a very good teacher and therapist. He can play in their court with their ball and swish the three pointers effortlessly. I saw his dialogue with Russell Brand. It turned into something like a therapy session for Russell. I expect something like that will happen with Maher.......Thanks for posting this video.
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I like that he causes the student to think about speaking accurately, and the student rises to the challenge.
Two hours of up-talking and Canadian accents, eh? I'll save that for later this evening.
... and I'll wait for 60 to comment on his two hours of hell.
I've come to enjoy Peterson, not for his particular stances on post-modernist radical Marxist ideology, because I think he's finally reached what I concluded decades ago. No, I enjoy Peterson for his ability to be precise with his words. The way he speaks and thinks about what he is going to see. He doesn't really vacillate in the Obama era of thinking of shit to say with the Um's and Uh's and near infinite stutter to find the right lie.
I've already met him twice and we've had some nice chats. I'm seeing him again in Phoenix at one of his lectures in June I think. He really is a nice guy.
Yeah, he is a great antidote to Marxism, but my problems are all mine - my hearing loss prevents me from merely turning on the video and listening to him speak - I have to turn on the closed captions and read what is said. That is time consuming as I can't do other things and absorb what is going on.
A friend asked if I had looked into getting hearing aids. I said "Huh?"
Yeah, it's an old joke, but old jokes are the best.
Cool beans, Meth. I'm jelly.
Sixty I only wanted you to hear him interact with that one student, eh?
Outtie for the evening, my babies.
The wonderful thing about him is simply that he's thoughtful.
The Master spake.
The student responded.
The Master said, "Shut up."
The student glared.
The Master said, "Next time say something."
The student said, "I hate you."
The Master said, "That's better."
That's right, spake.
A1 Spake sauce!
Thus Spake Jordanthustra!!!
1:05
If you can find a flaw in that logic ...
Yes, I can find a flaw in that logic.
The study was done by the armed forces to determine I.Q. of the population for recruitment purposes. They concluded 10% of the population has I.Q below 83. They determined there is nothing in the armed services these people can do that isn't counterproductive.
Does that shock you?
No. It does not.
Because we see them online everyday. They've mastered use of internet connection and keyboard and they've mastered parroting late night Democrat entertainers but they're absent cognitive ability beyond that.
The casual extension that there is nothing for them to do that isn't counterproductive in society as a whole because armed forces determined there's nothing they can do in their portion of society, is false.
Because there's plenty they do in society that isn't counterproductive.
I know this firsthand.
Because I'm retarded.
No wait! I meant to say I trained people with severe learning disabilities at the FRB and they were the most reliable people on my staff.
True fact.
Reliable as all get out. Utterly reliable.
* anecdote*
Change in workflow required I change worker's hours. They must come in 1 hour earlier and leave one hour earlier.
Everyone accepted that with no problem except the resident retard.
Apologies for being so blunt.
She is a lovely woman and she worked there longer than I have. She did repetitive things very well.
We had a lot of fun together. Saying and doing silly things along with a lot of good work.
But she couldn't handle the change. It was too much to think about.
So I gave her special attention. Careful attention to details and spoke to her as if she is a child. Her main problem was the bus. I had her bring in a bus schedule so I could help her figure it out.
Turns out, the bus schedule is designed for retards.
The whole thing is exactly the same hour to hour. No change at all. Just do the exact same thing you always do except one hour earlier. And the best thing about it is, you get out earlier too. Yay! Less crowded, coming and going.
Wake up an hour earlier, bathe an hour earlier, get dressed exactly an hour earlier, put on your makeup an hour earlier, drink coffee precisely one hour earlier, go to the bus stop one hour earlier, do the same thing going home.
Next day. "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
Beaming ear to ear. She pulled off the change.
Next day, "How did it go?"
And so on. The key is repetition.
AND IT WAS BIG!
A real genuine cause for celebration. She boldly faced the unknown. She is heroine of her own life challenges. She totally pulled it off. Success!
Of all the people I worked with, looking back at it, she is one of my all time favorite people. Right there at the top.
And she is not the only one.
So, that is the flaw in the suggestion that there is no work for 10% of the population below 80 I.Q. or 83 I.Q., whatever that number was. The premise is wrong. So the conclusion is wrong. And, no, I'm not depressed or shocked by the number. If I.Q. is charted as bell curve with standard deviations, that means 10% of the population has I.Q. of 120 and above and, frankly, that's awesome.
The whole thing is delightful and awesome.
Thus spake Jordanthustra:
Go clean your room.
Thank you for linking this deborah. I listened to the entire thing -- it was long -- in two sittings. I had heard so much about this guy lately that my curiosity was piqued. I was not disappointed. He, at times, made me reflect on decades of things I had learned. I especially liked his take on Nietzsche. And did you pick up his "trickster" reference to Derrida? I thing that set off rhhardin a couple weeks ago on Althouse.
Again, thanks!
The IQ/Bell curve stuff is interesting. I tried to explain -- crudely -- my own similar thoughts on income inequality in The Parable Of The Gas.
Glad you liked the vid, chick. I did not listen past the keyed time, as I wanted to post it before I left.
I like your gas analogy. This would be a laissez-faire economy? :
"Thinking in reverse, the only way to increase the average energy content of the entire ensemble is to raise the temperature. While individual atoms have different energies, they are constantly exchanging energy and levels of energy. A low energy gas atom can (and does) become a high energy gas atom via collisions and energy exchanges with its neighbors and environment."
Chip, no arguments that low IQers can perform tasks, I think Peterson was referring only the military, where, just going through boot camp would be hard...marksmanship, maps, marching drills, etc.
This would be a laissez-faire economy?
Laissez-faire in so far is it didn't become lazyfare and mandate equal outcomes.
It's hard to reduce people to atoms. I've tried, but gave it up. I'm thinking of trying again.
Mais oui!
RH did make a comment here once when I posted a clip with Peterson deriding Derrida...something like, 'that poor guy has no idea what post-modernism is.'
'Night!
'Night deb. Sleep well.
If people could be reduced to yin and yang, then they could be reduced to atoms. Peterson's take on men and women is a starting point.
Peterson is on Bill Maher this week. I can't stand Maher but I want to see the interaction.
@Nick, I don’t need to see it in real time but I’d watch it in rerun.
"If people could be reduced to yin and yang, then they could be reduced to atoms. Peterson's take on men and women is a starting point."
Mysterious. Will you elaborate?
Nick, thanks for the head up...I predict Maher will tread lightly.
He can communicate deep think thoughts in a comprehensible and interesting way. Jung and Nietzsche are too deep for me, but he talks about them in an accessible, non pretentious way.. If you think that's easy, just try to drop a Nietzsche aphorism into casual conversation........He's demonstrably a very good teacher and therapist. He can play in their court with their ball and swish the three pointers effortlessly. I saw his dialogue with Russell Brand. It turned into something like a therapy session for Russell. I expect something like that will happen with Maher.......Thanks for posting this video.
William, thanks for the Brand tip...he kept up with Peterson well. I will check out some of his other interviews.
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