The Generals Have Trump Surrounded (Washington Post by Charles Lane 8/24/17)
You know that Americans are going through an extraordinary political moment when The Post reports that “military leaders are rapidly consolidating power throughout the executive branch” — that they’re “publicly contradicting” the president and “balking” at carrying out his policies — and civilian politicians react with undisguised relief.
They are grateful that, while President Trump transgresses and blunders, the generals in powerful jobs — national security adviser H.R. McMaster, along with Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis — provide “a steadying hand on the rudder,” as Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) put it.
Non-involvement in domestic politics and submission to civilian control are hallmarks of a professional military under constitutional democracy. The United States has by and large practiced those principles while also preaching them, albeit inconsistently, to other countries.
Yet while the growing influence of military officers in the government, to the point of unsubtle pushback against the commander in chief, raises “totally legitimate” concerns, Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) told The Post, those issues “should be addressed at a later time. In the meantime, we should be reassured that there are competent professionals who want to make smart choices.”
(Now we have the news that General Kelly is restricting the information that President Trump is getting. Now that Steve Bannon and even that cuck Rance Prebius have been eliminated we have the Deep State controlling the Presidency. Reversing and changing the polices that President Trump ran on in this election. In fact reversing the results of this election. Keeping us in endless wars in places like Afghanistan and trying to start new wars in places like Korea. Pushing to start conflicts with Russia. Stopping immigration reform and pushing amnesty. Doing all they can to come back to business as usual. Aiding crony capitalism that betrays normal Americans.
Who is going to stand up for normal Americans who voted for Trump? Paul Ryan? Mitch McConnell? General Kelly? General Mathis? General McMasters? The guy from Exxon? One of the guys from Goldman Sachs?
According to ed this is all alt-right nonsense. That Steve Bannon and the people fired from the NSA and the rest of the nationalists are too big for their britches. That there is nothing to see here.
Right.)
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Do these shit-heads not understand that Trump can fire any of these people if they don't carry out his wishes? Unbelievable the levels of masturbatory wish-fulfillment.
I know the Washington Post?
Mainstream media assholes right?
But aren't the generals in charge?
Aren't they withholding information and access to the President?
Aren't they advocating policies in direct opposition to what President Trump ran on in the campaign?
Don't you believe your lying eyes?
He can fire them Meth?
Seriously?
I think he would not physically survive it.
The fix is in.
So now we're taking the WaPo's word to justify our nonsense?
You honestly think they're going to tell the truth?
Yeah, they know there are a few hysterics running around and want to keep them as crazy as possible in the hope they'll convince the rest, but, for those still in touch with reality, I have a flash for you.
The base isn't buying it. The Libertarians' latest try to assimilate the Conservatives in this country is going the same route as the One True Ted.
Trooper York said...
He can fire them Meth?
Seriously?
I think he would not physically survive it.
He fired Flynn.
The fix is in.
Seems to me I've heard that song before.
Ed you are delusional.
Flynn was a nationalist. The direct enemy of McMasters. All of his people were fired by McMasters.
I am not relying on the Washington Post. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
I am relying on what I am seeing with my own eyes.
Bombing Syria. More Troops in Afghanistan. No Wall. No Obamacare repeal. General Kelly weeding out the people who got Trump elected.
What's wrong with you?
Now knowing you smoked weed in your youth it all makes sense. You fried your brain like those fried eggs in that public service ad, "This is your brain on drugs."
This sounds like a The Onion comment, but that's how Baghdad Ed thinks.
I do think if Trump tried to clean house and fire the Generals they would pull an Al Haig, "We're in charge here @ the WH" and the MSM, incredibly, would abide it. Until the Generals declare Martial Law and shut down all communication!!
I truly think that the Deep State will not relinquish any of its power. Trump threw a scare into him and they tried to remove him with the Russia bullshit. Through taps and leaks. That didn't work. So they got rid of his people and surrounded him with their operatives. Now he is boxed in. If he tries to impose his agenda they will stop him.
I fear for his safety to be honest. I think he has the right instincts.
What do you think they are going to do if he decides that the Afghanistan thing isn't working and he is going to take the troops home? What are they going to do if he tries to abrogate the Iran deal? What are they going to do if he decides to end amnesty and order mass deportations of illegal criminals?
It is not going to be pretty.
Nick don't get all excited. I haven't toked since 1974. I think it is all out of my system.
Once you discover cognac and cigars you have graduated to adulthood and put away the things of a child.
Baghdad Ed was the one who turned out to be right. And nd the weed slinger just likes to shoot off his mouth.
Trooper York said...
Flynn was a nationalist. The direct enemy of McMasters. All of his people were fired by McMasters.
And I thought McMaster fired all of Bannon's people. But, yeah, real suspicious that a guy would want his own people when he takes a new position.
I truly think that the Deep State will not relinquish any of its power. Trump threw a scare into him and they tried to remove him with the Russia bullshit. Through taps and leaks.
Well nobody gives up power voluntarily. I'll bet Trump understood that going in. And I mean into the primaries.
I fear for his safety to be honest. I think he has the right instincts.
What do you think they are going to do if he decides that the Afghanistan thing isn't working and he is going to take the troops home?
Riiight, like all the generals did to Jack Kennedy when he wanted to pull out of 'Nam.
Except he didn't.
What are they going to do if he tries to abrogate the Iran deal? What are they going to do if he decides to end amnesty and order mass deportations of illegal criminals?
A.lready happening
Eddie you are sadly mistaken.
The Deep State are deadly enemies.
They did kill Kennedy. Johnson was much more malleable to their designs. He was all in for a war.
I don't know if Kennedy would have withdrawn from Vietnam. I think he would have lost his nerve like he did at the Bay of Pigs. I think the Deep State thought the same thing. Thats why they helped the Mob kill him.
President Trump should get some ex-NYPD guys and some mercs to have his back.
I would not trust the secret service.
Did you hear about that State Senator from Ferguson who called for his assassination. It all started with a friend of hers who had a cousin who was in the Secret Service.
I think we are just a few weeks away from commentors on CNN calling for Trumps assassination.
I do not care for McMaster, but I like Mattis.
"I think we are just a few weeks away from commentors on CNN calling for Trumps assassination."
I am sure that is a regular conversation at the Hampton and Vineyard cocktail parties they go to, and not just from CNN.
They've been calling for his assassination for a year now.
Trooper York said...
I don't know if Kennedy would have withdrawn from Vietnam. I think he would have lost his nerve like he did at the Bay of Pigs. I think the Deep State thought the same thing. Thats why they helped the Mob kill him.
Sure.
It is hilarious that every time ed posts something Troop's reply is "Ed your delusional".
poor Ed.
the dispute isn't real until ed refers to his opponent as "sweetie" and Trooper refers to his opponent as a "cuck."
I totally agree Trump needs his own security detail. The Deep State already has a "patsy" in the wings. Probably a Mexican cartel hit man.
"The coup is in progress......the Deep State has won......We the people have lost....if we don't take our government back."
Sweet bleedin' Jesus.
If any of you boys need some dry panties, please use Lem's Amazon portal.
Apparently Gorka agrees with Troop.
Two down.
Miller is next.
If you don't see this as a purge now that Gorka has been shitcanned, well you might be Baghdad Ed.
There are only two sides - pro-Trump and anti-Trump. Pick one. As for Gorka, anybody who would publish a bitch letter on the way out the door needed to be gone.
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