Monday, February 20, 2017

Mother of Mercy.... Is This The End Of Milo?

Milo Yiannopoulos is an agent provocateur of the Alt-right who you might be familar with from his work on Breitbart and the recent controversy at Berkeley where violent protests stopped him from making a speech. He was recently invited to speak at CPAC to the conservative establishment. I guess they wanted some of his juice so to speak. Some street cred a little more current  then Jonah Whaleberg or Bill Kristol. This was not to be.

His enemies dug up a video where he seems to endorse pedophilia. Of course that is what they are terming it. This is what he said:
"PaulsEgo: We’ve got to pick an age and go, okay, look, this is the age where we can reasonably be assured you’re an adult, you can give informed consent, you understand the risks of pregnancy, all that bullsh*t.
Yiannopoulos: Of course, of course, and I think the law is probably about right, that’s probably roughly the right age, I think it’s probably about okay, but there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them. People who are sexually active younger. I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way. And in many cases, actually, those relationships with older men — this is one of the reasons I hate the left, this sort of stupid, one-size-fits-all policing of culture, this sort of, this arbitrary —
Ben: You know, Milo —
T.J.: Let him talk.
Ben: Oh, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I was just —
Yiannopoulos: This arbitrary — I’m just gonna — I’ll be quick. This arbitary and oppressive idea of consent which totally destroys, you know, the understanding that many of us have of the complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships. You know, people are messy and complex, and actually, in the homosexual world particularly, some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, those kind of coming-of-age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are, and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable — a sort of a rock for when they can’t talk to their parents. Some of those relationships are some of the most —
Unknown: It sounds like priest molestation to me.
Ben: It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me.
Yiannopoulos: And you know what? I am grateful for Father Michael. I wouldn't give nearly such good head if it wasn't for him.

When he was announced as a speaker the conservative establishment freaked out. Which is understandable. What I don't understand is why anyone is surprised. Milo is just telling the truth. His views are par for the course for most of LBGT community. They are proud of their perverted behavior. They celebrate  it. It is the essence of who they are. When you get somebody like Milo you are buying into that. It is of course a handy club to beat him with since he espouses nationalistic views. If he were Lena Dunham talking about molesting his preteen sister he would get a book deal and be on every talk show promoting his HBO show.

I hold no brief for Milo. Just because he is right about some things doesn't mean I have to support him. Or make excuses for him. Hey Hitler liked dogs and buxom blonds with big tits. He has to take the hits from his own words and his own behavior. It is quite amusing seeing people who want to give Roman Polanski an Oscar get all bent out of shape because of this truth telling mo. You see the truth is no defense.

I also see where President Trump is going to address CPAC. Big mistake. They tried to destroy him last year and I bet they will pull some other stunt. They had planned a mass walkout of his speech last year. What do you want to bet that they are planning something similar here. To play to the scumbag media and the duopoly. President Trump needs to take a Pasadena on these shit heads. Not because of Milo. Because they are not his friend. Not his ally. Not even an honest broker. He has to beat them to enact his agenda.

When you lay down with dogs you end up with fleas.


Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Yes they are trying to finish him off. Both the left and right (mostly NeverTrumpers) are going nuts.

This is about hurting Trump.

Trooper York said...

It's about a couple of things.

Hurting Trump.

Hurting Breitbart.

Shutting up a somewhat effective out of the box nationalistic voice.

Taking control of CPAC and only recognizing approved conservative neocon voices.

Discrediting the Alt-right and the Nationalistic impulse of 50% of the electorate.

Running interference for the pedophilia rings that are being exposed by Pizzagate.

Trooper York said...

The right does have a major problem with homosexual pedophilia. Speaker Hastert was just the tip of the iceberg.

Conservative Never Trump Icon Ben Sasse was in charge of the House Pages during Hasterts tenure. He had to know what was going on with these mooks. He is a time bomb. I bet he is the one they will run against Trump instead of that McMuffin guy. So anything dealing with this issue has to be stamped out of the public consciousness.

I know that the main stream media is piling on to discredit the Comet Pizza connection. They are ridiculing it and saying there is nothing there. They refuse to investigate any of it. It is a story bubbling underground. In places like the National Enquirer. Just like Moncia Lewinsky. Just like John Roberts love child. Just like a bunch of stories that are suppressed by the Duopoly.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Yes, on your 5:48 comment. You may be right about Sasse too.

Egg McMuffin is a fucking tool and no one likes him, except the cabal over at RedState.

edutcher said...

The NeverTrumpers aren't Conservatives, they just use the word like they use Republican.

As for Milo, he loves getting under people's skin. That can be dangerous because you always risk antagonizing people who are on your side.

edutcher said...

And now we learn Simon & Shuster has cancelled milo's book contract.

All according to the script laid down since the days of blacklisting Georgie Jessel and Anita Bryant. Given how Lefty the Simon family is, doesn't this make them homophobic?

Trooper York said...

You can get lost in conspiracy theory. I know a lot of it is bullshit. But some of it is interesting to say the least.

Are you aware of the murder and suicide statistics of holistic doctors? I am interested in this because we took a holistic approach to healing our bodies. Normal doctors just prescribe more and stronger medicine for our various ailments. One of them told me vitamins were bullshit. That supplements mean nothing. Just take more pills that he prescribes.

We went to a holistic doctor and he was full of new age bullshit. But he took a very comprehensive blood test over 16 pages long. He tested for everything. He found stuff. Vitamins and minerals and levels that were dangerously low. He cut our medication and replaced it with vitamins and teas and a sensible diet plan. It has really turned it around.

We sent a bunch of people to this doctor. Some of them were really helped. He diagnosed one with have too much metal in her bloodstream because of the pipes in her old brownstone. She was so grateful.

I have been reading about it. What is weird is that there has been a rash of murders and suicides of holistic doctors in the last year. Here is a website that details about 50 such cases in the last year Now is that normal for a "type" of doctor. Do 50 cardiologists or urologists get murdered or commit suicide every year? I don't know. I know that this is the type of story that the main stream media never covers. That they cover up. Or give two minutes to just to dismiss while they concentrate on President Trump attacking them.

The media is scum.

Trooper York said...

Ed does the Blond know about this? I would be curious to know what she thinks.

One of the things that President Trump wants to do is to take on big Pharma. He said he was willing to work with that tool Elijah Cummings who can't seem to find time in his busy schedule to meet with the President.

If President Trump does take on Big Pharma I expect him to really be under attack. Dangerously so. They are one of the sacred cows of the Duopoly.

Trooper York said...

I know this sounds crazy. But I have been reading a lot about it. From various websites. It is troubling to say the least.

I don't expect the mainstream media to ever investigate. Just as they will not investigate Comet Pizza. It will take a break. A Joe Valachi. A John Dean. A Sammy the Bull. An insider who will spill the beans.

edutcher said...

Agreed. and it will happen - somebody gets fed up, can't sleep at night, doesn't get his cut, wants to show THEM, take your pick. Thing with Big Pharma is that was why HillaryCare never made it off the drawing board, but IdiotCare did - they set aside enough money to but them off.

Ed does the Blond know about this? I would be curious to know what she thinks.

She does and she's all for it. She has me going to a neuro-psychologist and that's the tack he's taking - lots of B12, Folic Acid, aspirin, Iron, lots of protein and green veggies.

Of course, Mrs Sweet Tooth watches me like a hawk, but she talks a good game for herself. But I think you're right, this is one where she needs to walk the walk; she gets moody and I think what she's eating (and not eating) is a big problem.

Trooper York said...

I would get that major league blood test ed. There are a lot of vitamins and minerals that we miss out on in our diet. You can correct a lot of it with diet. And still have some delicious stuff.

rhhardin said...

If you lay down with dogs you get up with dogs.

Trooper York said...

Or get it up for dogs.

That is the next thing that the left will fight for after they settle the transgender thing.

The NFL will not play the Super Bowl in your state if you can't butt fuck Fido.

It is a slippery slope.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop: "The right does have a major problem with homosexual pedophilia."

Nixon: "I don't mind the homosexuality. I understand it. Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddammit, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates."

NIXON: "You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France.

Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, [Attorney General John] Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this."

NIXON: "The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

And if Watergate happened today, it is that exchange above that would have finished Nixon off.

Trooper York said...

Like I said I don't understand why anyone is surprised at what Milo said. He has the attitude of most gay guys I ever met. The pearl clutching is over stated to say the least. CPAC should never have invited him in the first place if they weren't going to buy into his act.

CPAC is not a legitimate organization anyway. President Trump is making a mistake in addressing them. Just as he would make a mistake going to the White House Correspondents Dinner. They are both slaves of the Duopoly and work to destroy the common working man.

Rabel said...

To honor the memory of Milo I'd like to post a couple of age appropriate music videos:

From a heterosexual perspective

if you know what I mean.

Trooper York said...

Nixon as you know was a fascinating character. A lot like Trump in a lot of way. A strong advocate for America overseas but still willing to make a deal with China. An activist with the government he set in motion a lot of crap that we are still dealing with today including the EPA and other departments that need to be abolished.

I expect President Trump to do a lot of stuff I don't agree with. But some of what he will do is enough for him to get my warm rock solid support.

Look at what he is accomplishing. He picked the foremost theorist in the armed forces for his NSA advisor which is an intellectual post. Not a politician. Not the people the lying scum media promoted. The best man for the job. This is of course buried today. They want to talk about one sentence in the speech at the rally when he got tangled up about Sweden. They want to scream to the rafters that he is lying. Instead of understanding what normal people understand.....he is referring to the fact that Sweden is turning into a shit hole because of the raping refugees that are destroying Europe. You know. The guys that unelected "so called judges" who are really left wing politicians want to bring to your town.

Trooper York said...

Don't worry about Milo. He will be fine. If anything he will turn over a new leaf and become a liberal. Just like David Brock. He was the guy who came up with Troopergate with Bill Clinton and he ended up running PACs for Hillary. You can't trust those guys. They always turn on you. Like a Doberman Pincher.

edutcher said...

The issue is, while everybody thinks Barney Frank and Gerry Studds are heroes for grazing on pages on the House floor, they were Lefties. This is about politics, not sex.

Milo opened his mouth and said the stuff that's gay gospel and, if you brought it up as a Conservative and criticized them for it, you'd be called a homophobe. But because he's Conservative, he'll get blacklisted - and that's what we're talking about - and they'll try to banish him from public life. Anybody who's old enough to remember Georgie Jessel and Anita Bryant knows the drill.

I would get that major league blood test ed. There are a lot of vitamins and minerals that we miss out on in our diet.

My guy went through my regular 6 month blood test (it's pretty involved because of Cushing's and heart) and pulled out the stuff you're talking about.

That's how I got the recommendations I got. The biggest change is less potatoes and more broccoli and spinach. Which I don't mind anyway.

Trooper York said...

Try more zucchini. It is chock full of the stuff you need. Also bok choy and chinese spinach. Fry it up with garlic and onions in olive oil. Add a few pieces of chicken you made soaked in lemon and serve over brown rice. Good stuff.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Troop, strange how someone like David Brock is suddenly made "clean" by shifting to the left.

At least until he hitched is bandwagon to Hillary's and cost the Democrat Party the House, Senate and White House.

Trooper York said...

That is how it works. Of course it works for the right wing too. I mean look at Whitaker Chambers. Or not to put too fine a point on it Ronald Reagan. Now of course it is very different if you change because of principle. But many people do it out of self interest.

I just don't trust these people. They will turn on you every time.

So I wouldn't pick Milo as the hill to die on. I see where Vox Day has offered to publish his book now that Simon and Schuster decided to drop it. That should be interesting to say the least.

Trooper York said...

Milo is a marketer. He was smart enough to see that there is a big audience in the Pro-Trump Alt-right. It is counterintuitive. Just like the broad who wore the Trump dress at the Grammy's. You can make a lot of dough doing that.

They you can renounce it like David Brock and clean up again and be all respectable. I suspect that is what Milo is going to do.

edutcher said...

Hmm, I trhink Milo likes his role as gadfly, so I kind of doubt he's going to do a Brock.

He loses all his appeal if he becomes respectable. However, if he can stay afloat without recanting, it's a big setback to the Left.

As a f'rinstance, consider Martha Raye. the Lefties wanted to blacklist her not only because she marched in a parade supporting our guys in 'Nam, but she was also a colonel in the Army Nurse Corps and an honorary Ranger and SF (only a few can claim that distinction).

Where the Lefties' plan blew up was when Rock Hudson demanded she replace Nancy Walker on his show. That ended the blacklist for her and turned out to be the end of blacklisting people who supported our guys. If Breitbart stands by him through this, he should come out fine.

edutcher said...

FWIW, word is the Lefties had this planned all along and the NeverTrumpers paid for the research.

No problem believing the first part and the second is right up there with Junior McCain saying criticizing the press is how dictatorships get started.


Amartel said...

Milo is speaking truthfully about his own experience which includes a positive experience with underage (age of majority) sex with older men. This is at odds with and threatens cultural fictions designed to protect the dignity of the gay lifestyle. What if a woman had said something similar about underage sex with older men? No one would care. Milo's sin is that he's telling a truth that institutional gays and their supporters find embarrassing.

edutcher said...

Not really. The homosexual establishment, which is hard Left, is all for NAMBLA, though they call you a homophobe if you dare bring it up (no pun).

Both the Left and the faux Right are eager to destroy him and the feigned outrage over what he said is equivalent to the pussy-grabbing fit of last summer.

Leland said...

I've always consider Milo part of the fringe. It is a necessary part of any large organization, but not my preference. So, I only followed the news about him like I would say follow the news about McMuffin. I know he existed and in Milo's case, made all the people I disliked mad, and in McMuffin's case made all the people I dislike very happy. So in that sense, I was on Milo's side. But I can't tell you one thing about any of his speeches.

That said, I think CPAC is stupid, but that's nothing new to me. I don't support them and never have. This kneejerk response is why I supported outsiders. If you want to stand on principle, first make a foundation to do so. Otherwise, your just exposing yourself as an idiot; and I think that is what CPAC has done. Perhaps they'll be justified, but so far, it is not looking good for them. And nothing short of expose showing Milo as a Moby will convince me there is any justification for the kneejerk response.

Am I outraged by any of this; no. Trump is still President, and this won't hurt him. The press will try to make it hurt him and the GOP, but quite frankly nothing will hurt the GOP more than failing to live up to its promise to repeal Obamacare. That act will be remembered at the polling place in 2018. Few will remember Milo and CPAC in 2018. I've never walked into a polling place concerned about CPAC's goals.

Synova said...

He's said that "boys" or "young boys" doesn't usually mean "children" among homosexuals and has denounced pedophilia in the strongest terms.

His joke about his experience with abuse aside, he's claiming his *legal* relationship with an older (17 vs. 29) man was positive for him (the age for consent in England being 16) and I can quibble with that, but it's hardly a horror or advocating NAMBLA style man/boy love.

We're in a poisonous situation where everyone is so hurried to make sure everyone knows how disgusted they are by the idea and how evil it is, that you can't even really say, dudes, lets wait a week and look at the larger picture and find out what's going on and, you know, we can *ask* what he thinks about this.

Meanwhile we've got "It wasn't really rape, she was 13 and drugged, Polanski," and "I examined my sister's vagina, Lena Dunham," and those get standing ovations, but "I use humor to cope with my sexual abuse by a priest, Milo" is condemned?

Call me less than impressed by the "moral high ground" here.

ricpic said...

Wasn't Milo saying in effect that NAMBLA is just fine as far as he's concerned? Definitely a character conservatives should stay away from. Not out of fear but because "accepting" Milo means eventually accepting a very un-conservative "life style."

Amartel said...

People are working very hard to NOT understand each other. Just laboring away.

Amartel said...


Synova said...

In a word, ricpic. No. He wasn't approving any sort of NAMBLAesque anything. He clearly said it was NOT just fine. At most he was soft on pederasty, which gay men tend to be, but said that he felt that current ages of consent seemed right to him. So, again, he didn't support sex with children. He made a joke of his own abuse at a very young age, but if we're going to take that, and *not* his description of that abuse when he's talking about it (as opposed to using a joke to refuse to talk about it) and demand that he *meant* that it was amazing to learn how to give good head by a priest, well that starts to be US then, and not him.

And he said something about how the age at which teenagers become mature enough to consent is different for different people. And since 16 is legal most places, which seems young to *me*, must mean that the general social consensus is that it's not a crime to have sex with someone who is a minor.

Where is NAMBLA in this?

And there are any number of good reasons not to be impressed with Milo, but do we *really* want to engage in this pavlovian reactionary garbage? Because is anyone pure enough not to be destroyed in a similar way? Headlines... Milo approves of pedophilia... and everyone behaves as if the *accusation* is Truth.

Methadras said...

All Milo did was expose the long held believe by many people in how NAMBLA works and uses young boys to recruit and keep homosexuality functioning. He wasn't giving approval, he was just stating how he underwent the effects of such recruitment as a function of being abused.