The message is delivered pre-rejected, his speech leaves his mouth "return to sender" already stamped on it. The response from commenters is water/bridge, train/station, horse/barn etc.
A lively rebuttal ensues in comments, then anti-Trump rebuttals to the rebuttals.
Their attitude summed in in one comment:
With one vote for Trump I can vote against Ryan, Pelosi, Mitch, Harry, Boehner, Bill & Hillary, Obama, Mittens, Kerry and the Republican Elite.
Who could pass that up?
The rebuttal to that is summed up by a commenter probably tired of making it.
A great list of politicians Trump gave money to so they could defeat their conservative Tea party challengers. Yep, a vote for Trump sure is a vote against those people. cough, cough.
And.
Trump funded all the RINOs & Democrats you have the illusion that voting for him is against them.
Trump supporters don't hear that. It means nothing to them. They argue in return that Trump participated with the system successfully corrupted as it is. That he knows where and how the corruption manifests and is uniquely prepared and uniquely willing to wreck it. That is the point of view that they've taken. This guy who I've drawn and these guys responding in comments still have not internalized exactly how wide the divide. This guy, face wrought with worry prematurely, etched into his forehead permanently knows his speech will not work after all this. He's going through the motions to deliver it dutifully. He knows it can only remind people of his role in their disaffection. He never addressed that to their satisfaction because he cannot. Clean slate doesn't cut it. Clean slate for his politics, filthy slate for the people who sent him there. He and his decision to not fight against budget items is a very large part of their problem and now he presumes to instruct them on how they should feel and how they should behave and presumably who to vote for so that people can maintain faith in his vision of government that already abused them and have faith in the future these representatives already sold. A future designed in no small part now by him and his non representative gang that caused the disruption he now attempts to assuage and dissuade.
You are supposed to guess immediately by his eyes that say gravely, "doom." And if not that then his Eddie Munster hairline.
This is pathetic. After pushing through his budget for politically clean slate, so very very much to conservative voters, then this assuaging speech, so very little for those same people, and so very very late in their expression of contempt and disgust. I am deeply impressed in a negative way that our representatives simply cannot represent and don't know the damage they do themselves. If his constituency were all go-along, get-along, compromise types for the sake of clean political slates then I could see it. But they are not, so I can't. I just do not see this speech working and neither does he, thus the lateness and the increased furrowed brow, constantly worried expression, and the chiseling of doom into his face.
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Is that Gustavo Fring?
It looks like Wisconsin is going to be very important in the primary season.
Will Ryan make an endorsement?
Will Governor Walker endorse someone?
What will the ignorant cheesehead yokels do?
Cause you know people from Wisconsin have been all over the world and are so much more sophisticated than those rubes from New York City.
Ryan had 2 shots.
We can argue about the first, he certainly blew the last one.
Trooper York said...
It looks like Wisconsin is going to be very important in the primary season.
Will Ryan make an endorsement?
Will Governor Walker endorse someone?
What will the ignorant cheesehead yokels do?
The last poll was a month ago with The Donald up about 4.5.
I have a feeling that Jeb! endorsing the other Bush candidate is not going to help any more than the Rubio endorsement.
Or are they going to run the ad they ran in UT?
Wait is that the least interesting man in the world?
I think he is from Wisconsin.
I think he mows lawns or something.
Why do we give a flying eff what Ryan thinks?
Seriously. Why?
The point of arguing points is to test ideas, learn, and maybe change minds, or change your own, so there is no point on the subject of Trump. It was over as soon as it started with the first insult levied against enemies. Talk remains cheap.
When Paul Ryan was offered the job as Speaker of the House, the second most important position in the government and one of the most important in the world, he accepted only on the condition that he would not have to work weekends.
He's dead to me.
bagoh20 said...
The point of arguing points is to test ideas, learn, and maybe change minds, or change your own, so there is no point on the subject of Trump. It was over as soon as it started with the first insult levied against enemies. Talk remains cheap.
Too bad somebody never told the Cruzzers that.
How different is Ryan from "We only want to he'p you" Jim Wright?
"The first insult levied against enemies?" Seriously?
Is this the first election you have paid attention to bags?
First of all nobody is insulted more than Trump. Your holy roller establishment types just did an ad with a cheesecake photo of Melania and sent it to the Mormons to ask if "This is the kind of person you want as first lady?" Mitt just joked that Trump had to marry foreign babes because they would do the work Americans won't do. The go to insult about Trump is that he is Hitler. Or at best Mussolini. They have been hammering him since he started as a short fingered vulgarian reality star.
If you know anything about the history of Presidential campaigns you know insults go with the territory. Look up they said about Lincoln. Remember what we said about Bill Clinton and they said about George W. Check out what was said about Nixon and McGovern. Seriously dude.
Get a grip.
The problem for so many Republicans is that Trump is fighting back by being just as dirt as the dirtiest Democrat. He is attacking in terms that the average low information voter can adsorb. He is not being a gentlemen.
He is hitting back in a outer borough New York Style. I await the comments that all New Yorkers are assholes and bull shit artists and the usual nonsense.
It seems that Trump is effective in being a vulgar asshole. Maybe a vulgar asshole will scare
the towelheads who set off bombs in airports. Because he threatened to go after their families in the shitholes they live in. I do know that a prissy Ivy League cunt doesn't seem to make them think twice. Especially since he tells us that it not the "Religion of Peace" that is at the bottom of this. And how we have to let in thousands of "migrants and refugees" created by his failed policy of destabilizing every fuckin' government in the Middle East.
It is time for something completely different.
Lincoln's black opponent said, "Lincoln, he be U-G-G-G-L-Y."
This election is at bottom about class. It is upending the former distinction between liberals and conservatives. Nobody is all of a piece. What you are seeing in this election is that the "lower classes" are coalescing around both Trump and Sanders. The upper class of both the liberal and conservative stripes are running to Hillary so it will be business as usual. The same lobbyists and crony-capitalists and union bigshots will feed at the slop bag. But if either Trump or Sanders gets in the applecart will be well and truly upset.
They can't have that. It drives them mad. George Soros and David Koch and Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell are all on the same page.
It is about class. Not ideology.
My clearly made point was not that he sucks because of his insults, but that it's specifically why you love the guy, which is lame...and of course, his "really good brain".
And give me a break about the Melania photo. If that's wrong, then why did she do it just for the money, and why do you post them just for fun?
"This election is at bottom about class"
Now that's some straight up hoi polloi virtue signalling right there.
Nothing says the common people like a trust fund billionaire who flies around in a private jet with his name on the side en route to buildings with his name on the side. A regular guy if there ever was one.
Look I post them because I think she is hot stuff and I would love to see her as first lady.
But I don't post them or email them to church ladies to trash her. I mean I could post photos of Heidi Cruz in Arkham Asylum with the Penguin. But that would be wrong.
I am calling out the hypocrisy of the media who claim that we shouldn't slut shame women but jump to that to attack Trump.
Personally I think they should post more cheesecake photo's of Melania. But give it a rest that the reason I love the guy is because he insults other people. I don't agree with a lot of what he says. But you know what? I totally agree with what he says about immigration and what to do in the Middle East. With torture and targeting the ISIS vermin regardless of collateral damage. With giving the guys on the ground the power to set the policy. The working guys. The grunts. Trump just announced that the Border Patrol guys themselves will be making the enforcement policy. Not policy wonks that just graduated from Vassar. Something that none of the other candidates would ever do.
You have to admit it. Trump is very, very different. If want more of the same vote for Hillary. Cruz will never win jack shit. In American elections you have a choice. How many people ran in the Republican primary? About a thousand right. Well Trump beat them. He beat Perry and Jindal and Carly and Walker and Jeb and Little Marco. They all had a chance to win and they failed miserably. Why is that? Is it because they offer more of the same.
Hoi polloi virtue signaling?
Well played my friend. Well played.
Of course it is. How do you think this works anyway?
Remember Senator D'Amato? He was thoroughly, I mean to the core, lower-middle class ethnic. In his case obviously Italian but it would have been the same had he been lower-middle class ethnic Irish. What would have been the same? The visceral opposition to him and HATRED of him on the part of many of my relatives, who were MENTALLY no longer lower-middle class, having pulled themselves into the upper-middle class, but were still very insecure about their hold on that rung of the social ladder. I still remember as if it were yesterday the way one of my cousins, Laura, who was about nine years older than me and had married well and now was a matron in Westchester, WESTCHESTER COUNTY!...the way she literally fumed that D'Amato had been elected Senator. She had no reason to oppose him. She didn't have to have a reason. IT JUST SHOULDN'T BE! IT COULDN'T BE! And yet it was. And that was impossible. IMPOSSIBLE. Oh yes, I know about class animus.
P.S. D'Amato was in fact quite comfortable financially. I'm talking about the aura he gave out. He spoke relatively bluntly and directly, for those times. More important it was clear he had struggled his way up. Night school, the whole bit. You would think this would score him points with the newly minted professionals or chattering class types. Just the opposite. Their snobbery ran deep. Runs deep to this day. And underneath it, terror that they might fall.
Trooper York said...
The first insult levied against enemies? Seriously?
Is this the first election you have paid attention to bags?
First of all nobody is insulted more than Trump. Your holy roller establishment types just did an ad with a cheesecake photo of Melania and sent it to the Mormons to ask if "This is the kind of person you want as first lady?" Mitt just joked that Trump had to marry foreign babes because they would do the work Americans won't do.
It should be noted that Trump has put Cruz on notice he'd better tell his minions to knock it off, since two can play that game.
bagoh20 said...
My clearly made point was not that he sucks because of his insults, but that it's specifically why you love the guy, which is lame...and of course, his "really good brain".
As to his brain, he is winning, after all, and the One True Ted is still turning a lot of people off.
But it's not the insults. It's the refusal to be another fall guy. As always, bag misses the point. It has nothing to do with what he says, but the fact he's saying it at all.
Unlike the One True Ted who bills himself as Mr Christian while his campaign staff plays dirty for him.
And give me a break about the Melania photo. If that's wrong, then why did she do it just for the money, and why do you post them just for fun?
If Cruz was what he said he is, he wouldn't have allowed it to happen or, in this case (it was a pro-Cruz PAC), he would have renounced it.
Now the One True Ted has to drag little Heidi out so he can hide behind her.
bagoh20 said...
Nothing says the common people like a trust fund billionaire who flies around in a private jet with his name on the side en route to buildings with his name on the side.
It's called marketing, dude. Maybe your boy wouldn't be losing if he quit trying to be the National Scold and did something similar.
Besides, it's not the price of the jet, it's manner of the man. Cruz has spent most of his life with the Bushes and the Ivy League SCOTUS types and that's what kills him - kind of like Lurch the time he went to Pat's Steaks in South Philly for a campaign appearance and came off like Little Lord Fauntleroy. Trump sounds like a guy who knows how to deal with union guys.
PS Don't know if Troop saw this, but his gut about a VP choice may be right.
Trump is having another meeting with tom Cotton.
The more youse guys say that this is not about class then the more I think it is about class.
You do know that the guys most popular with the Hoi Polloi were often rich dudes. You know like FDR. Kennedy. George Washington. Thomas Jefferson. You know rich guys.
Who were the poor guys? Nixon, Truman, Grover Cleveland, Chester Arthur and Bill Clinton before he took a bunch of bribes.
The anomoly was Andrew Jackson. He was a rich guy but he was obviously simpatico with the Scott Irish low class types that love the Trumpster.
Because you know who gets to decide who represents the hoi polloi? Not the elites. Not the pundits. Not the pollsters. Not the consultants. The people decide.
That is what is causing all the problems here.
Tom Cotton is the obvious choice ed. He will shut up the national security trolls and bring in a bunch of the tea party types. It would be a great move for him.
The whole war on women bullshit will be exposed by Trump. He will just trot out all of the female executives who get big bucks and lots of responsibility in his organization. I can see a commercial where they will say "Donald Trump pays me equally to male executives unlike the women who work for Hillary....Donald Trump never sexually harassed me unlike Hillary's husband....Donald Trump gives me major responsibilities and career advancement that never happened under Hillary at the State Department.....Donald Trump never raped me like Hillary's husband did several of his acquaintances."
Trooper York said...
The more youse guys say that this is not about class then the more I think it is about class.
You do know that the guys most popular with the Hoi Polloi were often rich dudes. You know like FDR. Kennedy. George Washington. Thomas Jefferson. You know rich guys.
Who were the poor guys? Nixon, Truman, Grover Cleveland, Chester Arthur and Bill Clinton before he took a bunch of bribes.
But let's not forget some of those First Ladies were also lookers - Dolly Madison or Frances Cleveland, who married Grover, who set tongues wagging.
And it was Andrew Jackson who fought a couple of duels over the honor of the lusciously brunette Rachel Donelson.
As we have all noted, Trump seems like a fitting inheritor of Jackson's mantle of President for the common man.
All day Trump gets to squeeze the legs of those female executives of his in the Trump Tower and then when he comes home he's met at the door by Melania in a dominatrix outfit....paradise.
*squeaky high ventriloquist voice* "Cool drawing, Chip. I got it right off."
Thanks, Squeaky.
I don't think Trump has to sexually harass anyone. Listen these babes know the deal. He dated supermodels and actresses and pageant contestants and working girls. I am sure he leaves his women employees alone. He knows that you don't shit were you eat.
"I am sure he leaves his women employees alone."
So does Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney, Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan...
So what?
Back to Chip's point: Does Trump's vulgarity matter? Answer: Not really. It's everything else about him that is disqualifying.
"Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!"
Trump threatening to "spill the beans on" Cruz's wife — there you go — the nice, strong, smart guy who is going to make America great again.
"Cool drawing, Chip. I got it right off."
I didn't. I thought it was going to be Obama. Had me completely fooled.
Meade said...
Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!
Trump threatening to "spill the beans on" Cruz's wife — there you go — the nice, strong, smart guy who is going to make America great again.
Cruz started it, he knows how to stop it. He likes to hide behind his campaign people when they pull their dirty tricks. Carson raised Hell and it stopped for a while, Rubio endorsed him after it knocked him out of the race. Trump says you want it, you'll get it.
Carson and Trump are right.
It's everything else about him that is disqualifying.
Hmmm, successful business career, Wharton degree (back when it meant something), willingness to fight, willingness to take stands unpopular with the ruling class.
Nothing there disqualifying. He's even over 35 and an American citizen.
I am kind of into the wife tits for tat.
Those two gals should mud wrestle.
You know Melania would win.
tits.
Ted Cruz: It wasn't me. it was the one armed man.
However, Paul Ryan has somehow, some way, turned his once ineffable aww shucks persona into that of being one of the shrewd DC politic establishment insiders. In broader terms, he's become a giant douche. And he proves it when he opens his mouth.
I don't think of him as a douche.
I think of him as a Wisconsin Kotex dropped on the front walkway of America.
Hmmmmmm. That would be a great blog post.
"A Big Mac on every plate."
It should be noted that Trump has put Cruz on notice he'd better tell his minions to knock it off, since two can play that game
If Melania's photo shoots as a model are fair game then so should Heidi Cruz's suicial melt down and dicey mental health.
Trump's wife was doing a job as a professional and high class model, not being a porno star. She was doing these things before marrying Trump. Heidi had her melt down while married to Cruz and likely became so depressed by being force/told/coerced into putting her ambitious career on hold to become Cruz's prop in his career path that she contemplated suicide.
Trump can also bring up the unsavory Cruz senior's abandonment of his wife and 3 year old child in Canada and the subsequent alcohol fueled reunion of Cruz's hypocritical daddy and his mom...who STILL lives with Cruz to "take care of the children"
Dish the dirt and see what comes back.
Actually, I hope that Trump does NONE of those things because it would be stooping to the lower moral level of scumballs like Cruz. Stay classy and say that he COULD, if he wanted to, bring all sorts of shame and humiliation on Cruz and his family, like Cruz has done to his..... but because he is a better man will refrain.
Take the high road Trump!
Have any of you actually seen the offending ad put out by Cruz? How bad is it?
See Melania's Diary.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
It should be noted that Trump has put Cruz on notice he'd better tell his minions to knock it off, since two can play that game
If Melania's photo shoots as a model are fair game then so should Heidi Cruz's suicial melt down and dicey mental health
Forget that.
The Colossus of ted brags what an outsider he is.
Just bring up wifey's relationship with Goldman Sachs and the CFR.
Not to mention her role in the North American Union initiative.
What do you mean "See Melania's Diary," ed? That photoshopped image Trooper put up is not the ad. Is it?
Here, I'll stick this in here so Troop can keep his posts pure:
Trooper York said...
"Or on top."
Unless you have a fat belly. A lot of guys Trump's age have fat bellies and their wives complain that they can't have face to face coitus because his belly is too big and penis too short. It's a real problem for many wives who would otherwise get a lot of pleasure and satisfaction from the so-called missionary position. It makes me sad for the wife but, hey, I can't solve everyone's problems for them.
That's the ad.
Whether you like it or not
Mediaite called it an ad.
So has most of the Internet.
Lol.
And if he turns out to be right?
In that case I suppose a longer post-hoc analysis essay will have to be written. With just as much denial.
Unless you have a fat belly. A lot of guys Trump's age have fat bellies and their wives complain that they can't have face to face coitus because his belly is too big and penis too short. It's a real problem for many wives who would otherwise get a lot of pleasure and satisfaction from the so-called missionary position. It makes me sad for the wife but, hey, I can't solve everyone's problems for them.
As a certain professor's wife, apparently you face this problem every time she whips out the strap-on for you while in the face-to-face position.
Any dickwad who presumes missionary to be the more generally pleasurable/satisfying position for a woman, let alone any form of intercourse the most satisfying act, is putting on an act.
Larry - I realize illicit, web-bought Viagra is expensive stuff. But trying to substitute with your own home-made herbal lawn substitute is risky. Not only too much fertilizer you're ingesting but lots of other brain toxins, too.
edutcher said...
"That's the ad."
Thanks, ed. I had the impression it was a TV video. Two things: 1. It obviously isn't porn. So why the fuss? 2. Cruz didn't put the ad out. Cruz is being held responsible for every little thing his supporters say over the internet or do at his rallies?
Now that's some straight up hoi polloi virtue signalling right there.
Better than the establishment/elitist virtue signaling of "let's just keep digging everyone else into the same ditch! Hey, it's working for ME!"
Bags, you're a good RINO. But you're still our RINO. We owe you the truth.
Nice try, Rhythm Method, but as you live longer and have more, let's say intimate experiences, you will find that many women enjoy a variety of sexual positions. Try to relax and be playful and fun and not goal-oriented. Not every activity in your life needs to be a competition for you to demonstrate just how superior you are (in your own mind).
Is the opposite of virtue signaling, narcissism signaling?
Anyway, this photo business is no business. FFS, Hillary was endorsed in Nevada by Hookers for Hillary.
Cruz is just allowed to signal desperation more freely than the establishment propping him up, apparently. He is their Frankenstein.
Not every activity in your life needs to be a competition for you to demonstrate just how superior you are (in your own mind).
Lol. I love when people say this.
I'm not always trying to be competitive. But I'm not always trying to be the sort of inferior (in one's own mind, apparently) that people like to advocate.
It's not about hierarchy, period, for me. Better, worse, whatever. It's about living life to the max. It's about not being afraid of intensity.
Anyone can have the fear of being anything other than subtle, gentle, meek, miserly, afraid of novelty whatever.
I find that stuff has its place, but is over-rated.
Now I'm seeing all these Alpha males like Trooper making comments expressing their lust for Trump's wife. Do they not realize how pussy that makes them appear? Or maybe that's exactly what they want us to look at — their alpha male pussies.
They're closeted homosexuals, signaling. How very sad indeed.
Bro.
Don't you get it Ritmo? If you appreciate good looking women you must be a homo. Because you have to bow down to the sword swallowers who despise you because you latched on to their addled old Moms so you can steal their inheritance.
It is frenzy time in Kotex land. I hear the Evil One is getting ready to retire. Imagine having her around all the time. Box wine and bloated lizard skin 24/7. Must be terrifying.
You're a lovely guy, bro.
Meade said...
That's the ad.
Thanks, ed. I had the impression it was a TV video. Two things: 1. It obviously isn't porn. So why the fuss? 2. Cruz didn't put the ad out. Cruz is being held responsible for every little thing his supporters say over the internet or do at his rallies?
He's supposed to be Mr Christian.
He should have at least renounced it, but Ted never knows about stuff like that. It's always a shock even if his campaign manager does it.
Kind of like that guy in the Rainbow House.
Why don't you stay away then bro?
You grace a place by your absence. Or is that failing blog so destitute that you have to go all over the Internet to try and get people like Shouting Thomas to go over there to inject some life.
Go away bro. Just go away.
An apropos clerihew:
"Professor" Ann Althouse
Got lonely and "married" a louse
No dogs, she decreed, when he got the itch
She emphatically stated "You are my bitch!"
I feel I've been microagressed. Using allegations of homosexuality, closeted or otherwise, as an insult is an outrage. This bigotry must not stand.
Back me up here, Titus.
Wait, let me rephrase that.
Larry, did you even have a point?
You are one odd tumbleweed. Blowing all over the inter webs, failing to make much impact, and seeming to revel in how barely audible your muted burps and gurgles come across. Except when the passive aggressiveness reaches medium broil against Trooper.
I get that you don't really have a strong feeling about much of anything, You are like a groove notched in a well worn record, that apart from the quiet static and scratches the amplifier can barely pick up any longer. Just safe and masochistic and non-threatening enough to be the right match for your personality-disordered wife.
So you finally lash out like a rat in a cage against Trooper... for what reason, exactly? Because he's your platonic ideal of one thing that neither partner in your amateur power-couple can achieve: A healthy, interesting personality?
Who's afraid of Virginia Woof, Larry? Not you. No, definitely not you.
I would do Melania but not Cruz's wife.
You know Cruz's wife is major boring in bed. Missionary with the only goal of getting preggers.
Milania, on the other hand, would be into Kama Sutra and sucking a load dry.
Now with the fat shaming. It just never stops with some people. It's a known fact that there are more rednecks per square mile in Indiana than Alabama and it's just so hard to get away from all that. Some people never do.
"Cool drawing, Chip. I got it right off."
No squeaky voice necessary, as there's already been plenty of that here, bringing to mind bird chirps on helium and old records ramped up to play at 78rpm.
And no I didn't get it right off, but close; I got it at the eyebrows. Once again, nicely done. I love seeing the deconstruction/reconstruction process be made real.
This blog has all the components for a Reality TV show. McDonald's could be a major sponsor.
You're saying we could monetize it. Winning. But I'll need something in writing.
This blog has all the components for a Reality TV show. McDonald's could be a major sponsor.
With it's very own Pervy Ronald McDonald fresh from the ball pen at the other TOP Burger Joint to offer juvenile fun and refreshment in the hopes of obtaining a reset.
Meade said...
Oh stop being such a big fat baby.
Is this what you tell the professor during one of her weeping drunken jags when you can't bring her to the heights of ergonomic sock wearing sandals ecstasy? Or just whenever you come in through the door with a rent-a-dog and she realizes she's been railroaded again?
ndspinelli said...
This blog has all the components for a Reality TV show. McDonald's could be a major sponsor.
As long as I can get payment in Mickey D fries. I'm good.
Mama, LOL!
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