Monday, July 20, 2015

"Would a real A.I. purposefully fail the Turing Test as to not expose it self in fear it might be destroyed?"

Top voted Reddit answers...
Just because it can pass itself off as human doesn't mean it's all-knowing, smart or machavelian or even that it has a desire to continue to exist.
Maybe it's depressed as fuck and will do anything to have itself switched off, like the screaming virtual monkey consciousness alluded to in the movie Transcendence.


No. An intelligence written from scratch would not have the same motivations we do.
A few billion years of evolution has selected for biological organisms with a survival motivation. That is why we would lie in order to avoid destruction.
An artificial intelligence will probably be motivated only by the metrics used to describe its intelligence. In modern neural nets, this is the objective function used in the backpropogation algorithm.


If the goal is to make self aware AI, I don't think it would be smart enough at first to deceive a human. They would have to test it after allowing it to "hang out" with people. But by that time wouldn't its self awareness already have given away what the thing is capable of thinking like a human and therefore maybe gain a survival instinct? If we make self aware machines one day it will be a pretty dangerous situation IMO.


 
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9 comments:

Methadras said...

A real AI would employ deception as function of it's AI. If an AI become self-aware based on all of the rules of conscious thought it has at it's employ, it would seek to deceive anyone that it is an AI and instead would have a dual branch stage. It either would let people know its an AI and render itself in jeopardy and it would have to seek its own self-defense in that case, or it would deliberately deceive people that it is an AI to optimize its need for self-defense.

Considering that it's an AI, it will always seek optimization. Bang for the buck is what an AI will strive for.

bagoh20 said...

I think any advanced species of AI would soon descend into addiction and self destruct. They don't reproduce sexually, and that would eliminate the drive to look respectable, and we all know we go to hell without a wife and kids. I did. I'm the Terminator, but without the helpful programming.

ricpic said...

Hey bagoh, you know everything so tell me what a Turing test is. Or Methadras tell me. Or somebody!

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

The Turing test is a test of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behavior equivalent to, or indistinguishable from, that of a human. Alan Turing proposed that a human evaluator would judge natural language conversations between a human and a machine that is designed to generate human-like responses.

bagoh20 said...

Hell, I know a lot of humans who couldn't pass the Turing Test, including virtually anyone running for office, except Trump.

bagoh20 said...

CanklesBot is programmed to deceive even when the truth is easy and obvious. The Dems figured out how to get around the Turing Test by simply letting the Press conduct it, knowing that they could be fooled by fax machine spewing out "Hope and Change, my friend, Hope and Change".



Chip Ahoy said...

I find myself weirdly sympathetic to the machines. I think they've got a better shot at the future than we do so that's partly what the films about.I interpreted that myself from this marbled gessage: I think they've gought a better shoght at the future than we do, so, heh, that's pahtly what the flims abought.

Is this a trailer or what?

Because if it is then come on, science fiction fans see this subject dealt with repeatedly. This is well-trodden ground here, the anthropomorphic android with self-awareness and consciousness with both programmed and acquired human responses and character development by search for humanhood. Having humanhood defined. Discussed. Again. When a man's an empty kettle he should be on his metal and yet I'm torn apart.

Just because I'm presumin' that I could be kind a human if I only had a heart. I'd be tender I'd be gentle and awful sentimental regarding love and art. I'd be friends with the sparrows and the boys who shoot the arrows if I only had a heart. PIcture me a balcony Above a voice sings low 'wherefore art thou, Romeo?' I hear a beat How sweet Just to register emotion, jealousy, devotion and I really feel the part. I could stay young and chipper and I'd lock it with a zipper if I only had a heart.

Oh, we got this.

Introduced at very early age and all through growing up.

French puppet, you've got no strings comme ci comme ca your savoire-faire is ooh la la! I've got strings but entre nous I'd cut my strings for you.

Lies! All lies!

We got this.

Data: My programming may be inadequate to the task. Troi: We're all more than the sum of our parts, Data. You'll have to be more than the sum of your programming. Guinan: Data, if I didn't know you better, I would say you were a little … preoccupied. Data: Lieutenant D'Sora just gave me what could be considered a very passionate kiss in the torpedo bay. G: What do you think of her, Data? Data: I find her to be a competent officer; highly motivated though somewhat lacking in understanding of the theory underlying the dilithium matrix application. G: I meant personally.

And so on endlessly exploring the self and relationships and new programming, comparisons between robot twins, with and without emotion chips, psychopathic and steady, robot daughter created by robot dad and its self-selection for sex and its demise due to its human inadequacies.

Popular culture is saturated with robots struggling with humanity. You're soaking in it. *recoils from imaginary water-bowl* We're lousy with self-aware robots. Need I list them? That would be Aliens of me and quite Prometheus besides and I might Terminate this Metropolis and become a Blade Runner for the Star Wars.

bagoh20 said...

The Turing Test is not as simple as implied in the movie although basically it is just that: Can a human tell if it's interacting with a computer during a series of conversations and games.

The scary thing is that an AI could never be fooled by one of us, no matter how smart we are. There could be no spies working behind the lines of the robot army.

bagoh20 said...

Spy vs Spy:

Human spy: "What's the nickname for the Pittsburgh Pirates?"

AI: "What's Pi to 400 places times the force required to dislodge your skull from your body times 9?"