This is my experience with shepherd types, the first two. The second dog looks like a Belgian Malinois to me (one 4 Belgian coat variations, short hair used for police work, but not so strong as Alsatians). Their full attention is on their handler. And they display simple training of suggestion.
My own Alsatian took two weeks to train for simple things, and with a firm hand, that my three Belgians all take up in five minutes of suggestion. For them, there could be no discipline at all. It wrecked their delicate psychology. For them, discipline was withholding praise. It tore them apart to not receive praise. A simple touch on the ear would do. But they must have it. Or they are CRUSHED!
Retrievers are actually right up at the top in obedience. Right behind Border collies who perform as tiny robots. This here just shows lack of training. Zero training in this particular challenge. I'm fairly certainly the dog was never presented with precisely this task. The breed is reliable. I am certain in one training session the dog would pass right through the distractions in favor of its handler's reward. This was a new thing to the dog. So he did what dogs do.
The Benny Hill music is the topper. I laughed my @ss off. Thanks for the morning smiles.
Agree with Chip. The dog wasn't trained at all and merely doing what a dog normally would do. Wow!!! Look at all these toys and food......nom nom nom.
We used to have Chesapeake Bay Retriever. If you told that dog to stand on his head....he would do it. The best retriever ever and very very smart. We once had a kill of several birds down that required him to go down a ditch full of scrubby trees up and over a dike to retrieve the birds. After the first time going down, through the brush, up and back again. He said screw this one at a time stuff, this is too much work....... and just retrieved the remaining 3 ducks all at once. Instead of fetching with the body in his mouth (the normal way), he figured out how to grab them by the necks instead. It must have been at least 12 pounds of ducks at one time. Hilarious.
I don't think I have ever seen such a slow Malinois. Is that what he is supposed to do? Normally an adult Malinois at say 65 pounds can move fast enough to create huge energy release once a target (in Schutzhund or more so in KNVP protection phases) that it can take an agitator (aka "helper") to the ground.If Border Collies were a bit larger they could do the same. German Shepherds, at some 80+ pounds, do it almost routinely...e.g, in every trial at least one will take the target to the ground.
BTW Chip what you say about the Belgians is dead on...praise is the ultimate reward...but the same goes for your Alsatians (Germans Shepherds?).
Nothing motivates our "Dera" more than praise. Nothing. Snacks and praise and you have 101% of her attention.
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"And I'd do it all again."
This is my experience with shepherd types, the first two. The second dog looks like a Belgian Malinois to me (one 4 Belgian coat variations, short hair used for police work, but not so strong as Alsatians). Their full attention is on their handler. And they display simple training of suggestion.
My own Alsatian took two weeks to train for simple things, and with a firm hand, that my three Belgians all take up in five minutes of suggestion. For them, there could be no discipline at all. It wrecked their delicate psychology. For them, discipline was withholding praise. It tore them apart to not receive praise. A simple touch on the ear would do. But they must have it. Or they are CRUSHED!
Retrievers are actually right up at the top in obedience. Right behind Border collies who perform as tiny robots. This here just shows lack of training. Zero training in this particular challenge. I'm fairly certainly the dog was never presented with precisely this task. The breed is reliable. I am certain in one training session the dog would pass right through the distractions in favor of its handler's reward. This was a new thing to the dog. So he did what dogs do.
The Benny Hill music is the topper. I laughed my @ss off. Thanks for the morning smiles.
Agree with Chip. The dog wasn't trained at all and merely doing what a dog normally would do. Wow!!! Look at all these toys and food......nom nom nom.
We used to have Chesapeake Bay Retriever. If you told that dog to stand on his head....he would do it. The best retriever ever and very very smart. We once had a kill of several birds down that required him to go down a ditch full of scrubby trees up and over a dike to retrieve the birds. After the first time going down, through the brush, up and back again. He said screw this one at a time stuff, this is too much work....... and just retrieved the remaining 3 ducks all at once. Instead of fetching with the body in his mouth (the normal way), he figured out how to grab them by the necks instead. It must have been at least 12 pounds of ducks at one time. Hilarious.
Good Boy!!!!
I'd say he won the contest.
If he didn't win it felt like winning because he got to eat all the tasty prizes. Screw the blue ribbon. Sausage!
I don't think I have ever seen such a slow Malinois. Is that what he is supposed to do? Normally an adult Malinois at say 65 pounds can move fast enough to create huge energy release once a target (in Schutzhund or more so in KNVP protection phases) that it can take an agitator (aka "helper") to the ground.If Border Collies were a bit larger they could do the same. German Shepherds, at some 80+ pounds, do it almost routinely...e.g, in every trial at least one will take the target to the ground.
BTW Chip what you say about the Belgians is dead on...praise is the ultimate reward...but the same goes for your Alsatians (Germans Shepherds?).
Nothing motivates our "Dera" more than praise. Nothing. Snacks and praise and you have 101% of her attention.
Here is brief clip of what I was saying about the Malinois
high energy impact in a KNVP trial setting. Awesome dogs.
The retriever was like me at work.
Squirrel!
That was great. That second dog, the Malinois was gorgeous.
LOL... oh dear.
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