“Hey Joe, my buddy was offered an eli game used helmet and jersey. Are these the bs ones eli asked you to make up because he didnt want to give up the real stuff?” Inselberg writes in the exchange.I had a hard time deciding whether to title this post Trooper's Lament, Eli must die or The NY Giants suck!, they are all that good. In the end, I decided to go with the real one from the NY Post.
Skiba — replying from account “jskiba@giants.nfl.net” — writes, “BS ones, you are correct…”
Thursday, January 30, 2014
'Lawsuit claims Eli Manning, NY Giants scammed fans with bogus 'game-worn' gear'
"Included in the lawsuit is a 2008 e-mail exchange between Inselberg and Joe Skiba, in which Skiba appears to acknowledge he created fake game-worn gear at Manning’s request."
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It figures. The guy is no Bart Starr, that's for sure.
I assume the disincentive to fake religious relics is an eternity of fire and brimstone.
With Eli, you should know whether it's authentic game-worn gear or not by the grass (or worse?) stains up the back.
Check for DNA. BJ Clinton always left his DNA on prized clothing.
I have never understood why people fetishize mass produced goods. A Faberge egg or a painting I understand but where is the magic in paying thousands for something you can buy vastly cheaper at a local store?
Did Eli Mannings's dad put him up to it?
I'm so naive. I really thought Eli was a choir boy.
Tom Brady wants to know if this going to hurt his brother (Payton) chances for sainthood ;)
I just looked up a few "game-worn" NFL items, including the NY Giants. Stupid money ranging from $105 to $24,000+ for these things.
My oh my, what 6 figure+ amount would a "game worn" Michael Jordan jock strap sell for?
Yeah, this market puzzles the shit out of me. Then again, so does anything by Andy Warhol's little art "factory."
Did Eli Mannings's dad put him up to it?
If Trooper were awake, he would balk at your suggestion ;)
@Lem: Did you know that "balk" and "balcony" are etymologically linked?
It goes back to motes and beams apparently.
interesting. In Spanish 'barco', with an r instead of an l, is a word meaning ship or boat.
I get balcony as/is small boat. But balk? A mound. The rubber is a beam. It makes sense. How about that?
This is really good Lem. You got me good.
Congratulations Amigo.
If Eli Manning is involved in this he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Fraud is fraud and he doesn't get a break just because he is a two time Super Bowl MVP.
Fraud is rampant in the memorabilia business. I happen to know a lot about this because my brother was very into collecting about twenty years ago when it first started really heating up with baseball cards. I went with him to innumerable shows where he waited on line to get people like Mickey Mantle and Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams to sign balls and bats and photo's. The only time you are sure that it is real is if you are there watching the athlete sign right in front of your face. The "value added" of it being used in a game is mostly bullshit. The last couple of years of Pete Rose's career he wore a different uniform every inning so he could market "game worn jerseys." About twenty people supposedly own the jersey he wore when he fought with Bud Harrelson in the playoffs. So a lot of this is bullshit.
Some things are easy to obtain in the memorabilia business. They are readily available. Pete Rose's autograph. Serena Williams used weave. Cocaine from Mercury Morris. A blow job from Aaron Rodgers.
All very easy to get for a nominal fee.
I buy memorabilia every year at the American Cancer Society benefit in Brooklyn. They always have a ton of stuff form Stiener Sports which is just about the most reputable company in the business. They have the stuff in a silent auction. You go and sign up your bid and go back to see if anyone outbid you and raise your bid. They have a starting price and you go on from their.
I bid on a football signed by Eli Manning. Not on the one supposedly used in the Super Bowl. That was way overpriced and probably fake. You would have to be a moron to think it was worth it.
A regular football signed by Eli was a much more reasonable price but I was outbid. Instead a got a plaque that commemorated the last two Super Bowls with a photo of David Tyree and Mario Manningham's great catches along with Super Bowl game tickets. It is really pretty neat and looks great on the wall of my office. It was very reasonably priced and it helped the charity so it was a win/win.
Memorabilia in general is a big rip off. You have to be careful what you buy. 90% of it bullshit.
Oh and one more thing. Lem I want you to know that Ted Williams head is available. It is attached to limited edition Chicken of the Sea Tuna fish can.
I know a guy.
Email me.
I'm going to assume there's no market for stuff "game-worn" in pr*n movies.
Okay, so, "game-worn gear."
Valuable because it's all sweaty and reeking of delicious parfum de quarterback?
Alrighty then!
What? Don't be an asshole, that's not the attraction, no not at all?
Well, what is? The attraction?
That it was there during the game?
Then why don't they just hang some gear on the sideline and sell that? (It was there during the game.)
It has to be ON THE FIELD, worn IN the GAME? So how much does the punter's jockstrap go for? Just curious.
Yeah, if I was Eli Manning I'd fake the game-worn gear. Gross.
I'm going to assume there's no market for stuff "game-worn" in pr*n movies.
I'd be willing to bet you're wrong. If I was a betting man, that is.
Revenge is a dish best served in the afternoon.
I have never understood why people fetishize mass produced goods.
After giving it some thought I've concluded that the nature of the devotion determines behavior.
Because the fanaticism is seen, in general as 'child like', if you will, the individual controlling mechanisms determining the gradation of wrong doing is minimally affected.
The person committing the fraud knows it's wrong but falls back on the idea that the target is sort of asking for it.
When the collecting craze really began in the 1980's there were a lot of things that were genuinely collectable. The great baseball cards of the 1950's, 1960's and even the 1970's were harder to come by because knucklehead kids like me never took care of them. You put them in the spokes of your bike to make a cool sound or you played flip in the street with your friends and maybe a car rolled over it when you had to run back on the sidewalk. Ultimately you outgrew it and your Mom threw them out. But once the collecting craze began kids started taking really good care of their cards. They wouldn't even take them out of the wax packs or they would put them in plastic sleeves or little plastic cases to protect. So many people saved these cards that they became worthless. They started publishing catalogs that told you what every card was worth down to the penny. Every knucklehead thought he was going to make a million dollars from his collection. Then he found out that stuff is only worth what someone will pay for it. So a lot of it is worth shit.
I mean Lem would probably pay a bunch of peso's to get Ted Williams head.
I wouldn't pay ten cents to play soccer with it with Taras Bulba.
Trooper, if you're interested in sports memorabilia you might want to take a look at this.
That is not authentic.
I know for a fact that Mooschelle has Barack Obama's balls.
My BIL used to work at the US capitol. He said there is a guy who spends all day running flags up and down a flag pole on the capitol, not necessarily the one on the very top. That's so congressmen can give away flags that flew over the capitol building. That's sort of like a game jersey I guess, for a politician.
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