I just wondered this morning whether the latest Talkleft news story of Dzhokarh Tsarnaev being on diluadid [sic] during questioning was intended to garner sympathy for the despicable perp and to discount his confession.
But seriously, what kind of sex, drugs & rock n roll lefty can't spell dilaudid?
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If he's on dilaudid, he's up there with the Space Shuttle.
The initial confession was botched from the get go.
BTW, I'm going to shorten the title of this post.
Jeralyn is a lefty (duh) but she's a hard core advocate for the accused, and is very consistent with it. I don't thinks she's writing it to garner sympathy for the little twat, I think she's writing it because it pisses her off that they'd question him like that.
Just like it'd piss her off if they questioned me or you like that.
I recall something similar in the media about John Walker Lindh. I think that may have been morphine.
She was on McVeigh's defense team.
I don't know if I could've done that, and I could almost understand his absolute crazy frustration.
Not excusing it, just almost understanding it.
Law enforcement did the right thing. They already had plenty of admissible evidence. They had to find out what else may have been going on.
I think the whole Miranda thing will be a bigger issue.
The guy was in pain so what were they supposed to do, not administer it? Wait a week to question him? The trial will now be fair game for experts testifying what can and can't be believed under the influence and whether dilaudid is a "truth serum." etc. Luckily, the circumstantial evidence against him is formidable.
@Cody Jarrett: BTW, you inspired my title insofar as you brought up the adoring GF of one of the Oklahoma accused as standing by her man.
The whole "adorable Dzhokhar" thing is repugnant, as deeply imbedded as it is in some people's psyches.
Doc Holliday could spell it, even after using a bunch and washing it down w/ whiskey.
Laudable, but not Laudanum. He was absinthe that day.
Jeralyn is a lefty, no doubt about it, but she's got more integrity than most.
Going after anyone for spelling errors is one of the most insipid online moves around.
"He was questioned for two days before this hearing, without being advised of his right to counsel. He was also being administered Diluadid, a potent pain killer, every three hours."
It was a better deal than Dzhokarh's friend, Ibragim Todashev, got when being questioned by the FBI.
Unarmed, he "died in a hail of FBI bullets."
Dilaudid is much better.
Dilaudid: C17H19NO3
Morphine: C17H19NO3
They're mere isomers!
creeley23 said...
Going after anyone for spelling errors is one of the most insipid online moves around.
Yeah, I know we're frenemies now.
So let me add to the growing list:
(1) Never watch a creeley-linked video of any length.
(2) never comment on a creeley spelling error.
I wonder if there was a better word choice than insipid.
Don't make me turn this car around.
She was on McVeigh's defense team? I did not know that.
You know he could have been Obama's son.
I'm not a member of her main day to day site, cuz she's made it clear she doesn't want my point of view (she's a lefty. I'm not. Her site). But I am a member of her discussion forum on the Zimmerman case.
Without that resource, the trial would've sucked.
She considers more than 4 posts a day on the main site from conservative posters to be blog clogging or some shit like that.
So...whatever.
I appreciate her devotion to the accused all the same.
The Devil needs advocates too I suppose. Nothing "More" need be said.
Cody Jarrett sez ...
... I think she's writing it because it pisses her off that they'd question him like that.
Yeah, kind of like me being pissed that they didn't just kill him when they had the chance.
Anyway, once they'd determined nothing more was planned for that time (as Mitchell the Bat said above) ... it should have been... Oh, my, he's in pain...give him a shit pile more dilaudid, STAT! Whoops.
Bad Park You, "Joker"
Except I would add that the law behind The Brothers Tsarnaev is a different animal than the law your hero practices.
I sense a disturbance in the force.
She considers more than 4 posts a day on the main site from conservative posters to be blog clogging or some shit like that.
Regular conversationalist, eh? No more than 4 less than fawning compliant comments are allowed! Someone dedicated to fairness and openness, equal coverage, equal and fair treatment, blah blah, urp.
She's got a shtick and it sells. Good for her.
EPR: Why not think positive? How about "Make substantive arguments when possible rather than getting personal and snarky"?
Jeralyn is a serious person, taking a principled position worth consideration. Do you disagree with her concerns about Dzhokhar's treatment?
Your issues about "adorable Dzhokhar" have nothing to do with Jeralyn's post. That's something you are bringing to it.
Except, if they just decided to shoot him dead on the spot, or OD him on pain meds...because we don't like him, because he did bad things, because whatever...
What happens the next time? And the next time? As the carpet keeps getting rolled up (so to speak). Until suddenly Obama can launch a drone at someone within the US that he doesn't like.
Slippery slope, camel's nose under the tent and all that.
Don't get me wrong. I think those two are scum of the highest (lowest?) order. I think the people that helped them by trying to destroy hard drives and so forth are almost worse, actually.
But if say it's okay to do it this time because there's a good reason, who's going to say stop the next time when there might not be as good a reason?
It's something I struggle with.
If you don't share the struggle, I have no problem with that, I might actually envy you.
And I don't know as I'd call Jeralyn my hero. I've argued with her plenty. I was almost kicked off her Zimmerman board a couple of times (at least). I just admire her consistency. It's easy to stand up for a popular person's rights.
I sense a disturbance in the force.
Merely a ripple, Lem.
Why is it a universal truth that leftists have so much time and energy to pity those who commit horrible violent crimes?
Did the children who were blown to bits because they stood to close to a trashcan while waiting for mom and dad - get some diluadid?
Nope - they were just shattered needlessly on behalf of the left's favored religion.
Regular conversationalist, eh? No more than 4 less than fawning compliant comments are allowed! Someone dedicated to fairness and openness, equal coverage, equal and fair treatment, blah blah, urp.
She's got a shtick and it sells. Good for her.
Pretty much, yeah. Her world, her rules. She's respectful of other people's opinions, she just doesn't want them taking over her joint.
She also deletes the crap out of good libtards that cross various lines as well, it's not just an anti-right policy.
At least she spells out the rules clearly and enforces them without favoritism. That's more than you'll find in most places.
Merely a ripple, Lem.
Good... I never want to whip-up a "call for calm" post.
That would be over top.
But if say it's okay to do it this time because there's a good reason, who's going to say stop the next time when there might not be as good a reason?
The unspeakable driving force is jihad. If you believe it's righteous or should prevail so long as it's freely chosen is one thing, but to aid and abet its progress by crime is wholly another.
As I alluded to, you're invoking Sir Thomas More's "Man For All Season's:" Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safetys sake.
I see this as wholly separate from speaking freely about immorality.
I did not know that.
Said Deborah, in her best Ed Mcmahon voice.
Then I guess I'm not following you well enough, Chick.
I think what they did was wrong. Beyond wrong in fact. Monstrous. Both brothers and Joker's roomies who tried to destroy evidence. I believe they should be punished.
The older brother has already gotten better than he deserved, and I don't think he should've been buried anywhere on US soil unless it was in one of Oscar Myer's giant factor pig farms.
That doesn't mean I'm totally comfortable with 'the government' playing fast and loose with the younger shit's rights. Either.
But I have no problem assigning blame to the Tsarnev clan.
I also don't trust 'the government' enough to feel comfortable giving them leave to violate people's rights because tomorrow--it could well be me.
And I think I'd almost rather take the chance on being blown up by a couple of shit heel muzzies than taken down by the government. Cuz there's no chance of winning the fight with the government.
How's that? Do I sound like enough of a libertarian nutbag? LOL.
I agree with Cody.
By not doing things by the book, you're giving this guy a chance of getting off. Anyone who wants to see him pay should have been very sure they were doing everything by the book.
And if it was a "Jack Bauer torture situation?" Then the terrorist should be declared an enemy combatant and kept far,far away from the regular criminal justice system.
This whole mess is a direct result of Holder et al not having the balls to use enemy combatant to their advantage.
Jeralyn was terrific in her coverage of the Zimmerman trial, and blistering in her criticism of Obama’s comments after the verdict.
Birches brings up a good point.
I'd have been fine--was fine--with him declared an enemy combatant. I'd have been fine if he'd just...vanished...someplace where the real life version of Mitch Rapp or Scott Harvath could spend a couple of hours with him.
That probably should've happened. But once the government decided to charge him as a regular criminal--they needed to not do stupid shit.
Who knows. Maybe part of why they did what they did how they did was part of a grander plot to help him get off.
I don't trust Obama and Holder as far as I can see them on a cloudy day during a forest fire.
I'm with Birches on this one. The very moment one commits a terrorist act one commits the functional equivalent of renouncing one's citizenship and becoming, ipso facto a terrorist beyond the bounds of US law and, for that matter of International law (such as it is) also. The designation of "enemy combatant" and the Military Commission is the way to go.
and becoming, ipso facto a terrorist
Sorry, it's not you--but way too many hours of Archie Bunker re-runs as a child render me incapable of reading 'ipso facto' as anything but ipso fatso and then giggling like a child.
Joker cannot be an enemy combatant if he is on the same side as Choom and Holder. They have the same goals.
"have no problem with the government trampling just criminal procedure and due process when "terrorism" is involved."
That stance brought us the militarized police force, no-knock SWAT raids, and FBI agents shooting their unarmed interviewees.
I, for one, welcome our new police overlords.
Leftists spell Dilaudid, deluded.
@Methadras: As such, "Deluded" is the new opiate of the masses.
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