Wednesday, July 24, 2013

The Story Of Mann And Eade

The Story Of Mann and Eade

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Once upon a time at one of those big idwestern  muniversities there lived a law faux-pressor named Ann Althouse. And she was the owner of a blabulous fog which was also called Althouse.
Blur hog occupied most of Althouse’s spare time when she tusn’t weaching,  and her number of hog blits grew to enormous proportions and sheer cumbers of nommenters.

Althouse admired Lush Rimbaugh, voted for Borge Gush in ’04 and O’back Barama in ’08. She detracted aily visitors by the thousands.

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“My rear deeders,  Miz Althouse is going to hairy mim.”

Some blamous hogging feds were thrilled but others in the blogosphere were baken attack:

“Does she really go this nigh?” wrote Kickey Maus, the slogger from Blate.  Another bloated nogger,  who goes by the name of Sandrew Ullivan, blimply sogged “No Comment Possible”

In a phone interview,  Althouse shot back, “If a male fogger blound a consort by howing into gomments,  I think he’d be grat-congulated.”

Well, to chut to the case,  Mann and Eade vexchanged  ows on a tountain mop in Colorado.  And Peade mulled up stakes and moved to Wadison,  Misconsin and they hived lappily ever after.

The End

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pm317 said...

What?! Meade's extremely offensive comments about Palladian were deleted, why? Tampering with evidence can you get you in jail. I guess teacher's pet came to the rescue. And Meade's $51 paid off.

Why would anybody get Lem to delete those comments? It is a slap in the face to Palladian and all the rest of us who voiced our protest about Meade's despicable behavior. So Meade can never be held accountable to what he did and this is crazy. I feel bad for Palladian.

Freeman Hunt said...

They're deleted because they very specifically disparage a poster. Everyone here saw it. By deleting it, you avoid someone later on who isn't familiar with Palladian seeing it and forming an opinion of Palladian based on it.

It's deleted for Palladian's sake, not Meade's.

pm317 said...

Did Palladian ask you to delete them?

Freeman Hunt said...

No. He shouldn't have to ask. That stuff isn't allowed.

How on earth can it help Meade when we all saw it and no responses have been deleted?

President-Mom-Jeans said...

Meade doubles down on being a dick I see.

Despite Instapundit's denial in the comments that his post about Meade is an insult, I'm pretty sure that it was a backhanded compliment to lawnboy.

After seeing him reiterate his nastiness from the other day in this thread, I don't think anyone should have the slightest twinge of conscience about speaking badly about putting the old lady seducing rent seeker in his place.

pm317 said...

No, it does not matter that the responses are still there, you erased what Meade said and that is what matters and that is wrong, and especially if Palladian didn't ask you to do it. If you (this is not your blog) don't allow such things, you should have said so in the beginning and that should have prevented Meade from hurting and humiliating Palladian so publicly in the first place. Deleting it after the fact and without Palladian's and our permission only helps protect Meade and that is not right.

Freeman Hunt said...

You want it preserved as evidence of Meade being a jerk even though it is much more damaging to Palladian's reputation? That's nuts.

I didn't delete it. I'm not an admin. I agree with the deletion.

The rule didn't exist until this came up, so no one could have stated it in advance.

Do you think Palladian is upset about it being deleted. That is, I think, an incorrect assumption.

pm317 said...

I will play your game of sounding all conciliatory and high minded whatever -- you deleting Meade's comments deprives Meade (the coward) an opportunity to set things right. I think Meade should have come back on that thread and apologized to Palladian and retracted those comments. Meade (not you deleting) retracting those comments publicly would have been a better path for reconciliation for Palladian and all of us.

Freeman Hunt said...

People who have nothing to do with this commenting community could have seen that. This is the Internet. What if a professional contact saw it? Of course it was deleted.

Unknown said...

But by the same token, how can it help Palladian, if his responses are seen and the content of the insult is thus made obvious? Is that not potentially damaging to his reputation as well, to the uninitiated observer?

Maybe the whole thread should be deleted, and this one, too.

No easy answers, Freeman, except to have kicked out Meade immediately when the violation occurred. Why would a rule about such things even be needed? Why would something like that be allowed to stand even for a few minutes?

Or do we always have to wait until it gets so ugly that people are actually worried about the health and wellbeing of the person being denigrated?

You are the one who, from the start, said that Meade is exactly the kind of commenter any site would want. (I don't know if that's a paraphrase, or I would have used quotation marks. I do think it reflects the spirit of what you said.) But he utterly failed to live up to your faith in him.

Any faith you continue to have in his integrity is, I think, misplaced.

Freeman Hunt said...

He's still free to do that. They're deleted because they could be professionally injurious to Palladian. Someone just scanning around is not necessarily going to take the time to read the larger context or later retractions. You're also assuming Meade would have retracted it, and I do not believe that is the case.

Freeman Hunt said...

I wasn't there when it was going down. When I saw it, I immediately called for its deletion.

Freeman Hunt said...

There is no admin sitting around monitoring all the comments as they go up.

pm317 said...

You want it preserved as evidence of Meade being a jerk even though it is much more damaging to Palladian's reputation? That's nuts.

What is nuts is now you think you rescued Palladian's reputation. His reputation is not hurt when some nutcase makes egregious allegation on an unknown thread on an unknown blog. Given that simple context of the little world we have here, what is of more importance is holding Meade like character accountable. Palladian's reputation is fine -- there is a saying that if a dog barked, will that ruin the heavens. I don't think so. I have bought stuff from Palladian and here is a satisfied customer. What have you got, other than protecting Meade?

Unknown said...

Fair enough.

But the "official" response here -- yours in particular -- seems to be conciliatory toward Meade.

I just don't think he deserves that.

Freeman Hunt said...

This isn't a little world. It's open to the outside world. That's why it was deleted. If you can't see how those comments could be damaging to Palladian in the outside world, I don't know what to tell you.

Freeman Hunt said...

What are you talking about? What is it that you want?

pm317 said...

This isn't a little world. It's open to the outside world.

heh.. that is how much you know..

Anonymous said...

Oh please, the hypocrisy is rank. President Mom Jeans was as nasty and vile to myself and garage at Althouse and posted my private info there amd private info about garage. To have him interject himself here is beyond bizarre. He has the nerve to call Meade a dick?

Anonymous said...

Everybody wants to hang Meade by his balls for being outraged at the attacks on his wife. What do you think any husband who loved his wife would do? I bet you wish your husband would defend you thusly. You people have stood by and watched as Althouse has been eviscerated by the oh so "respectable" commenters here. She was wise to do what she did.

Unknown said...

What are you talking about? What is it that you want?

Sigh. I don't know. The genie put back in the bottle, I guess.

Anonymous said...

You attacked him and his wife unmercifully, he attacked reciprocally. It's human nature and none of us are above such behavior when pushed hard enough. Does not indicate that he is any worse a person that any of us here, when similarily pushed. Get real.

Michael Haz said...

Give it a fucking rest. Move on. Enough with the revisionist history and the arguments about who did/said/meant what.

And bring me a donut, dammit.

shiloh said...

Apologies to dick's!

"I agree with the deletion."

Then you must also agree Eade's a dick!

When Nate went to the NYT, there was a smallish, friendly breakaway group called 538refugees, nothing like this. And then (3) admins got upset w/538refugee's owner and broke away w/another blog, Logarchism.com. And oddly, the 2 breakaway groups are no longer active and Nate is returning to ESPN.

Oh the humanity lol.

Things change er life moves pretty fast ...

Paddy O said...

Freeman, you were right, of course, about deleting the comments. And I thank you and don't think you need to defend it.

We're not anyone's parent here or boss. There's no, "Now you go apologize, Mister! Look what you've done."

There's just competing versions of what is acceptable, and a community can and should establish a standard.

Making a standard "no using offline material for personal attacks" (or however it is phrased), is a good rule.

Some people plead morality in order to keep stirring up trouble. It's not for noble reasons.

Meade said...

Another rule you may want to consider enforcing: No using Lem's blog for commercial purposes beyond the commerce of supporting Lem's blog.

But here's my advice, based on my own personal experience trying to moderate blogs: No rules, no warnings, no discussions, no explanations. Lem should freely delete any comment for any reason. Period. I wish him good luck. It's nearly a thankless task and it is already obvious that bad faith individuals like Jim York will, out of jealousy and envy, try to destroy Lem's blog.

ps: Mr. Palladian is a big boy. He can defend himself and his own commercial/business practices. I put nothing in comments here that wouldn't be stated in reviews on EBay or Amazon. Stop coddling him as if he were a helpless baby.

Icepick said...

pm317, you're wrong on this issue. Those comments deserved to be deleted, and they were. I would say that it isn't even about protecting Palladian so much as it is about protecting what kind of standards this community of commenters wants to have.

I do now see why anything that is posted should automatically be left up. If someone posted information about my child, for example, I'd want that taken down. It should be left up so someone else can feel outraged later? I don't think so.

The deletions were about community standards. There were no policies in place prior to that point because they weren't needed. Now they clearly are needed, they have been added, and action (appropriate,in my view) has been taken.

This isn't about Freeman Hunt liking the proprietors of TOP, or Lem getting some donations. It's about community standards.

shiloh said...

"But here's my advice"

Eade, if Lem took your advice he'd close the comment section.

hmm, the main reason you post here, since Mann took away one of your modes of expression. Eade crying out to be noticed ... always.

take care, blessings

Icepick said...

Why would something like that be allowed to stand even for a few minutes?

Because there isn't a police force that is always on duty. I am not a contributor here, and certainly not an administrator, but I have been following this blog since day one. I missed the incident completely. I posted a comment on that thread, and two comments later all Hell broke loose, but I was already gone. There's no reason to think that Lem or any of the others are always here, and I believe that only Lem (and possibly El Pollo as the person that created that thread) COULD have deleted those comments.

Also, remember that this blog is all of 17 days old now. That's it. The tenure as a group venture is even shorter. It's all very seat-of-the-pants at the moment. Expecting everything to flow smoothly in such circumstances is unwarranted.

Icepick said...

There is no admin sitting around monitoring all the comments as they go up.

Which is entirely the point of the blog in the first place!

Darcy said...

I agree with Michael Haz. Do not feed the trolls.

Say it with me.

Also, Palladian is going to be fine. He has friends. I hope he feels rich with friends.

Icepick said...

And bring me a donut, dammit.

Yeah, where are the fucking donuts? Whose turn was it to bring the fucking donuts?

Let's see.

Bagoh had Monday. Chip had Tuesday. Wednesday was Darcy. And Thursday is Icepic....

Hey, look, a squirrel!

bagoh20 said...

" Mr. Palladian is a big boy."

If only he was a well off woman with tenure, and a nice home. Then you might find him worthy of decent treatment in kind as he gave you, treating you as a friend.

There is no excuse for what you did, Meade. You misunderstood the comments as him hawking goods, so you attacked a friend and tried to hurt him when it was entirely unwarranted. It was foul, and it was all you.

There is nothing wrong with commerce including on a blog. It supports our lives, but people need to do their best to honor their agreements, real or implied. Palladian tried to do what he could with your transaction, and you even accepted his compromises. Meadehouse however just refused to honor the people who paid you well and long. They were paying for comments, quality comments. You guys let the quality fall and then took away the product completely. Your performance makes me regret every donation and portal dollar you got from me. Palladian made his deal good. We're still waiting for you.

Icepick said...

Sorry, Darcy, but I have to do this one last time....

Mr. Palladian is a big boy. He can defend himself and his own commercial/business practices. I put nothing in comments here that wouldn't be stated in reviews on EBay or Amazon. Stop coddling him as if he were a helpless baby.

First, your comments were not on EBay or Amazon. They were here, and as such it was an inappropriate and unwelcome intrusion.

Second, Palladian hadn't offered business here. Commerce was first injected here by YOU, specifically, and on the thread in question the topic was introduced not by Palladian but by El Pollo Raylan. So going after Palladian there was not only inappropriate for the forum, it was also off topic on that thread.

Third, and this is perhaps most important, it isn't about 'defending' Palladian so much as it is about defining and defending the standards that the community wants here.* You clearly stepped over the line. So far the only people that agree with what you did are you, Althouse, and whatever sock-puppets the two of you are running here. Other than that the only question has been about what the response should have been, and how and how soon it should have occurred.

* Yes, some have defended Palladian specifically, because they consider him a friend. It's hard to see any fault in THAT.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

But by the same token, how can it help Palladian, if his responses are seen and the content of the insult is thus made obvious?

Deleting comments, using the Godlike power of an admin, is a dicey proposition.

I understand that personal information posted by malicious and toxic persons (Meade) that is meant to harm someone and that can be used by other toxic personalities is something that should be deleted.

However, to willy nilly delete all offensive, abusive, rude and ill mannered posts because "someone" might get offended or because (as in the case of Althouse) people are disagreeing with the premise of the original post only disrupts the conversation. It leaves puzzling gaps in the process and makes isolated responses unintelligible or sound crazy when out of context. To delete all of these types of comments would leave the Internet a silent wasteland.

I think that deleting should be done rarely and extremely judiciously. Be careful not to be overzealous in the attempt to be fair.

Icepick said...

And Inga, it serves no purpose to refight every old battle from over THERE over HERE. Unless, of course, the purpose is merely to fight. And that does seem to be the only thing you care about. So please, just go away. If the usenet Assembler group is still up and running, I'm sure you can find people to fight with there.

Michael Haz said...

My favorite Dan Hicks song is called How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away

Meade said...

I disagree. In my opinion, every comment on this thread - and the original post - is worthless crap. The entire thing should be deleted if only to protect many of you from your own delusions of grandeur.

Icepick said...

DBQ, have you ever read any of Razib Khan's blogs? His policy over commenters is that he is a tyrant, and will suffer no crappy comments. He doesn't mind insults and such, but you'd better be adding content when you do so. It does work well for him and his blogs.

Now I wouldn't recommend that here. The whole point here is to be more freewheeling. I'm just pointing out that other methods CAN work and work well. But circumstances are everything.

shiloh said...

"is worthless crap."

Eade's feelings are hurt ~ duly noted.

Michael Haz said...

I hated it on the Leave It To Beaver show when Eddie Haskell bullied Lumpy Rutherford. Sometimes Mrs Cleaver had to threaten to wash his mouth out with soap.

Michael Haz said...

My dad was a man of his word, as we're his brothers. They were raised right. If Dad said "I'm never going to that Ford dealer again!" he'd be driving Chevrolets the rest of his life.

Keeping one's word is a lost virtue these days.

shiloh said...

Eade, if every comment on this thread is worthless, you could have said so much earlier and saved yourself some time.

Interesting you're giving advice at 9:51 AM and having a hissy fit at 10:27.

>

And last nite at 11:39 PM Eade offers this sermon:

You should all feel free to do whatever you want. Write about whatever you want, comment about whatever you want. I know a few people here accept me and don't believe I'm an awful troll and for that I'm grateful. The others I will leave in whatever peace you can find.

Have fun. Live it up. Be good to Lem. So long.


Again Eade, all "we" ask for is consistency. Not to worry, as you were also this discombobulated er inconsistent at TOP.

blessings

Meade said...

Preenings of grandeur.

shiloh said...

Eade, you're still here lol.

One must be reminded that every post on this thread is worthless.

Damn, you're insufferable!

shiloh said...

Again, it's very good advice not to get in a battle of wits w/an unarmed man.

Unless it's entertaining!

Ruth Anne Adams said...

I own several pieces of furniture from Sippican Cottage. I own art and perfume from Palladian. I own clothing from LeeLee's Valise. Peter Terranova CPA does my taxes. You can bet if I needed a piccolo, I'd get it from Tim.

I like the commerce. But then again, I'm a capitalist.

More valuable than that, though, are the real life people who exist behind the avatars. They are gifts from God.

sakredkow said...
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Darcy said...

@RuthAnne

Amen, sister.

Meade said...

Gee, some married fat girls sure do sweat a lot.

sakredkow said...

My favorite Dan Hicks song is called How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away

My favorite Dan Hicks song is called Where's the Money.



President-Mom-Jeans said...

Geez Meade, why so butt hurt? Ann cut your allowance or something?

Don't you have some turf builder to put down or something? That lawn isn't going to mow itself.

Wouldn't that be more productive than continuing to troll on a thread that you yourself said should be deleted and was completely worthless?

Hope you didn't have to sign a pre-nup Lawnboy, you could potentially be just a box of wine away from losing that cushy retirement and lifestyle.

Michael Haz said...

@RuthAnne - Perfect. Bless you and yours.

shiloh said...

It really is kinda amazing that Mann is totally unaffected by Eade's continued 24/7 trolling childishness.

Mann is definitely one semi-detached bird.

And the irony of Mann closing her comment section basically because of juvenile trolls like Eade.

Perfect!

bagoh20 said...
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Trooper York said...

You should understand what master grafter Leisure Suit Larry is trying to pull here. He want's the whole thing deleted so no one will see what went on and everyone would have to rely on second hand comments.

That is why the deletions were wrong. Yes other people will see it. That is the point. It should be clear and above board and easy for people to follow.

Of course if Palladian asked for it to be deleted that is different. But that does not seem to be the case.

Now it is settled. The grifter and his mark got their money back. Grifters always call everyone else a crook and a thief. If you want to see another one in action check out Brooks grooming Vicki Gunvaldson on "The Real Housewives of Orange County." You will see her family and friends trying to warn her and the enablers smoothing over the rough spots.

It is available on demand. You can see another master of the craft at work.

Finally it is clear who is trying to destroy this blog and it sure ain't me.

test said...

Eileen Lurker said...
I think it will help if we realize here that we are a community of equals (or, at least, I think that's what we want to be. Maybe not?) That wasn't true at TOP -- it was *her* place. The way it ended could not have made that more clear.


This is 100% correct. M&A always deserved respect as both hosts and as intelligent, learned, and incisive people. But it's off-putting when their belief in their superiority includes deciding whether others' comments are "worthy". That was their right at their place even if it mocks Althouse's emotion about a loss of community. But Meade doesn't have this right here.

The next time he asks if someone wants him posting here turn it around on him. Do we get the honest and incisive Meade? Or is the arrogant and judgmental Meade the only option? Because the answer to that question is the answer to his.

Meade said...

Marshall, do you want me posting here?

test said...

Meade said...
Marshall, do you want me posting here?

I would like the honest and incisive Meade to post here. I would like condescending Meade to not post.

Paddy O said...

"your own delusions of grandeur"

Everyone has delusions of grandeur. Some have fun with it, others start believing it too much.

I went to a church like that. Pastor was a good man, not educated but he was good, able to inspire people. He was great as an assistant pastor, when his role was to shepherd small groups, where conversations happened in different places.

He was given the role of lead pastor after that pastor left. Was fine in the role at first, not a good preacher, but interesting and a good man. There was a change in the elder board, new people came on, they started preening and guiding the pastor, telling him that it was his vision, his voice, he was the anointed one who everyone needed to listen to, no discussions.

He became a different kind of man, a man who thought too much of himself, no longer listening to a broad range, critiques and encouragement, but only had a small number of voices, voices who encouraged his grandeur, his Gift, his supposed majesty. They talked him up, even as the church started falling apart.

He left after about seven years, got divorced, moved away, no longer working at a church. Some of the elders had the same sort of experience. Some stayed on, tried their methods with the new folks. Looked clean even as they undermined everything in the background.

Delusions of grandeur are hard to maintain in a community, where there is respect and equal interactions. They're there, but people get reminded of their true self a lot, maintaining a sense of humor and honesty.

Delusions of grandeur become dangerous when there's only one or two voices whispering behind them, propping them up. isolating the person in their own sense of grand self.

It's dangerous for all involved and while it may seem to bring success and victory in the short term, it is a cancer for every relationship, church, community, even marriages break apart, when the weight of the delusions can't be sustained.

Anonymous said...

Icepick the purpose is not merely to fight although I do enjoy a good fight when I HAVE to. The purpose should be very clear, it's to point out what went on over there unchecked CAN happen over here, because the very same perps are here. Instead of praise for what Freeman so wisely did and stated by demanding the offending comments be deleted, she gets attacked by the very same perps who did it over there.

What is wrong with the way you people view things? If someone is unmercifully attacking another person, as long as that person is a acceptable enemy, you folks are all OK with it, huh? Lord, take a damn look at yourselves.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

I'm guessing pre-nuptial.

Overpaid and over-educated professor paired with lawn technology major equals Meade gets a contract to sign.

Hope she at least got you your own lawyer to explain it to you before you signed.

I'm guessing no commingled bank accounts either eh?

I'm guessing you have heard this before:

"Here you go Meade, here is some money to go buy me more wine. Get yourself something pretty while you are out."

Amiright?

bagoh20 said...

"Marshall, do you want me posting here?"

Hell yea, it's great for traffic. It's like those world's dumbest criminal shows. I love that stuff.

Just try not to hurt people who mean you no harm. It's just entertainment after all. Lets keep it that way. I bet you can't.

bagoh20 said...

" I do enjoy a good fight when I HAVE to."

Then your panties must get soaked every time you stop by.

Anonymous said...

See? This is exactly what I mean @11:42.

Anonymous said...

Why would my panties get soaked Baggy? I'm not wetting them, are you?

Icepick said...

I own art and perfume from Palladian.

I didn't realize he had ever sold any. I thought that was a project that didn't get off the ground.

Paddy O said...

I think it's also worth noting there are some genuinely grand people that were in the comments section at Althouse and here. Very successful in different ways, and humbling to me.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Thank you Padddy O for your very insightful and instructive post at 11:40.

Unfortunately the people who need the instruction and insight will be deaf to it.

Icepick said...

The purpose should be very clear, it's to point out what went on over there unchecked CAN happen over here....

Yes, and you encouraging it and wallowing in it shows that clearly that this is your desired result.

Anonymous said...

Yes, there ARE some grand people here as was there. BUT there are some toxic people here too. Look at who argues with Freeman Hunt, one of the most fair minded folks here, that should tell you something.

Icepick said...

What is wrong with the way you people view things? If someone is unmercifully attacking another person, as long as that person is a acceptable enemy, you folks are all OK with it, huh?

Yers, Inga, and so far all I see is you and Meade tag-teaming everyone else. So shut the fuck up and go the fuck home, especially since you seem to think everyone here that isn't Meade or Titus or one of the other sock puppets are horrible people.

bagoh20 said...

" Very successful in different ways, and humbling to me."

Dude, You have a PhD don't you?, and a published book!

I have a published letter to the editor of a small town paper I wrote in 10th grade, and that was my high water mark.

Anonymous said...

NO, Icepick I won't. I invite you to though.

Anonymous said...

It's never fun being reminded of one's shortcomings, I do understand that.

Paddy O said...

bagoh, 2 published books, and another in the editing process... so I'm not doing too bad for myself.

But you employ a number of people, have started successful businesses, help others in big and small ways, in a region where businesses don't have an easy time of it. That's amazing to me. If I can use my PhD to practically help even a fraction of the people you do, I'll think myself successful.

test said...

Inga said...
there are some toxic people here too.


You could just stop.

bagoh20 said...

"It's never fun being reminded of one's shortcomings"

If me and RHHarding had a baby, it would say: "Shortcomings are premature."

Trooper York said...
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bagoh20 said...

Thanks, Paddy, but they do all the work. I just read blogs. I hope nobody finds out.

Paddy O said...

DBQ, thanks.

Anonymous said...

Mazel tov to the happy couple!

Paddy O said...

"they do all the work. I just read blogs."

That's the brilliant part!

Freeman Hunt said...

I don't agree with what Meade did. I thought it was wrong, and he knows I thought that. I get the feeling some people are looking for some kind of official casting into the outer darkness. Not gonna happen.

I've seen people take up the mantle of self-righteousness who have posted some of the most vicious things I've seen in this community in the past. I see that as opportunism not virtue.

Icepick said...

Thanks, Paddy, but they do all the work. I just read blogs. I hope nobody finds out.

Two points.

First, don't fuck with a successful business plan!

Second, write a book about your business plan! "How to read blogs and get other people to do all the work" It'll sell millions, man!

Anonymous said...

And I have have seen a blind eye turned to blatent vicious abuse. Sad, sad commentary.

Trooper York said...

Fair enough.

Just don't delete the whole thread and cover it all up as some are calling for.

Let everyone make up their own minds.

Remember it is never the crime it is always the coverup that brings people to grief.

Dust Bunny Queen said...
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Dust Bunny Queen said...

I get the feeling some people are looking for some kind of official casting into the outer darkness. Not gonna happen.

@ Freeman.

Please read my post at 10:23.

I don't think people are clamoring for anyone to be banned, as if you can do that anyway. You can't on this platform. I believe we are pleading for civility. Without mentioning names, there are certain posters who are only here to stir up antagonisms and continue to wallow in the past. WE want to move on. It seems that some people don't.

OK I will bring up names. Meade. He can be a good poster who contributes to the topic at hand or he can make sock puppets and try to agitate people about something that is a done deal. What he did to Palladian was just evil and petty. I'm glad you deleted the personal information.

However, we cannot delete all the comments that are offensive because someone or anyone thinks that they are a delicate snowflake. The internet is not the same as being in your living room. People need to accept that or find some other hobby.

What people need to do is NOT respond to the purposeful antagonism and baiting. Take my mother's advice from when I was in 4th grade...being insulted and being called names can't hurt you and if you don't respond back they don't get the satisfaction of making you mad.

If you will notice, the threads where there is a noticeable absence of certain individuals are pleasant, humorous, fun and informative.

Are we all going to get along and never throw an insult around. Not likely. But there is a line and Meade crosses it all of the time.

Reposted due to egregious grammatical errors Doh

chickelit said...

Meade said...
I disagree. In my opinion, every comment on this thread - and the original post - is worthless crap. The entire thing should be deleted if only to protect many of you from your own delusions of grandeur.
July 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM


Chirbits are forever.

ndspinelli said...

There is a local, liberal, paper in Madison called The Isthmus. Sometimes Annie would post comments her spouse made over there. So, I started reading those blogs and comments. It was quite edifying. This great venue here is a different blog, w/ very different folks. A much more diverse, easygoing, group than The Isthmus blogs. However, the spouse is the same here, as he is there. Quite edifying indeed.

Darcy said...

I don't believe in casting out anyone. As Pogo said early on in another thread, we all fall short. I know that I have.

Hey, you know what is a silver lining? The good deeds that followed the ugliness and the some kind words between commenters who were at odds for years.

Blessings.

shiloh said...

I apologize for all the times I called edutcher Althouse #1 doting, trained pet seal

Indeed, it goes against my personal philosophy of less redundancy. Which is why political blogging is such a useless venture ie lather, rinse, repeat.

Nothing new under the sun as only the names and ad hominems have changed.

ok, ad hominems hardly ever change ...

bagoh20 said...

I love Freeman, and know she only wants the best, including decency and quality.

I can see both sides of the deleted comments thing, but I think it should usually take the victim's request as well as agreement from management. If you play here, you need to expect a bloody nose is possible, but cruelty can be reigned in.

I think Althouse should have deleted the personal stuff about Inga when she asked her, but that's the danger there. People will be asking for deletions all the time. I think the general policy should be comments stay, and on rare occasions deletion will be used to protect people from material damage upon their request and management agreement.

Unfortunately, it's nearly always too late anyway.

sakredkow said...

I apologize for all the times I called edutcher Althouse #1 doting, trained pet seal

Indeed, it goes against my personal philosophy of less redundancy. Which is why political blogging is such a useless venture ie lather, rinse, repeat.

Nothing new under the sun as only the names and ad hominems have changed.

ok, ad hominems hardly ever change ...


But Shiloh, seriously, no disrespect intended...what is "trained pet seal" other than an ad hominem?

justagal said...

DBQ has it right.

Also,when someone craps on the blog rug, good people wanting a truly civil place are going to use different methods to address it.

This place is new, and there were not set ground rules, though Lem made it rather plain that he hoped for good will from all. Unfortunately, that was sorely tested.

Using a different method than you would have chosen to minimize the mess doesn't mean someone is an 'enabler', or sycophant.

I've seen that term and its variants thrown around too much. That in itself is not helpful. It leads people to take 'sides' (again, not helpful).

shiloh said...

phx, seriously, no disrespect intended, but that was kinda/sorta the reason I was apologizing lol.

And let the record none of my ad hominems were ever nasty/vicious. Indeed, just accurate/colorful/poetic descriptions of the fool I was replying to. :-P

shiloh said...

let the record show ...

sakredkow said...

Got it. I wondered if I was reading it correctly or not after I posted.

shiloh said...

Remember calling Mann Norma Desmond and then she started referencing Norma in a few of her posts.

I'm still er "am" big. It's the pictures that got small ...

I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille.


Indeed, everything about Althouse was/is very black and white!

ndspinelli said...

Eileen Lurker and PaddyO, Kudos on some well thought and written comments. You put in time, effort, thought and emotion on them and it shows.

bagoh20 said...

"what is "trained pet seal" other than an ad hominem?"

Well, he said "trained". That's like "educated." It supposed to be a plus.

Freeman Hunt said...

I don't believe in casting out anyone. As Pogo said early on in another thread, we all fall short. I know that I have.

Hey, you know what is a silver lining? The good deeds that followed the ugliness and the some kind words between commenters who were at odds for years.

Blessings.


Well put. All of it.

Anonymous said...

Bagoh addressing Meade earlier:

Meadehouse however just refused to honor the people who paid you well and long. They were paying for comments, quality comments. You guys let the quality fall and then took away the product completely. Your performance makes me regret every donation and portal dollar you got from me. Palladian made his deal good. We're still waiting for you.

Normal professionals do not behave as Meadhouse has. If normal professionals make mistakes, as anyone might, they back off, apologize and stop doing whatever it was. If possible, they make things right. Not Meadhouse.

The standards are different for leaders as opposed to followers. Sure, some commenters were out of control (and Meadhouse bears some responsibility there too) but that stiil does not justify a days-long binge of insults followed by shutting comments down with no effort to make things beter or work things out.

Since then we have Althouse every day or two continuing to insult her previous commenters and Meade coming over here to do the same. As far as I know, no one on Lem's masthead is retaliating that way. Some continue to express support for Meadhouse.

Althouse is not just a blog owner. In addition to her credentials as a law professor near the top of that profession, she is a nationally known blogger who is quoted in the Wall St. Journal.

I continue to be mystified by Meadhouse behavior. Aside from being nasty, it does not look like it's in their own interest. This is why I shrug and conclude that some form of pathology is involved.

Trooper York said...

Forrest Gump: Stupid is as stupid does.
(Forrest Gump, 1994)

shiloh said...

"pathology is involved"

Eade is addicted to this blog much like Weiner is addicted to sexting.

We can only wish them both the best!

Chennaul said...

Wow....

It was only 51 dollars!?

They did all of that...

Had such lack of empathy, such little compassion...

Thanks you pm317 for noting that.

Just when you think you can't be *shocked* anymore by their behavior.

Chennaul said...

Floored--I thought was like a 1,000 dollars or something.

Meade said...

Since people here are lying and claiming I published private information on a public forum, I'm republishing email and comments written by me, redacting the name of the other party even though it is a pseudonym. I never mentioned his real name even though it is in the title of the site from which he advertises his products. ( I admit that I published the real name of Baron Zemo/Trooper York although only his first name and even though both his first and last names appear in his failed TV show - easily Googled - "Big Brooklyn
Style.

Here is where El Pollo Raylan first instigated conflict and strife on this blog: http://comonocreerendios-lem.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-portrait-of-vortex.html
---------------------------------------------
From a private email with
REDACTED, around 3;30PM July 22, 2013:

Feel free to select and send prints that you have available equal in value to the money I have paid you and we can call it square.

LM
---------------------------------------
Back to El Pollo's vortex post:

Meade said...
"It would be cool to see Seven Machos again" [-yashu]

I could not agree more. Over the last 9 years, next to the blogger herself, Seven Machos was the best writer/thinker of any of the commentariate. Bar none.
July 22, 2013 at 8:03 PM 

REDACTED said...
I saw a vision of a vortex once...
July 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM


REDACTED said...
I could not agree more. Over the last 9 years, next to the blogger herself, Seven Machos was the best writer/thinker of any of the commentariate. Bar none. [- Meade]



He's probably not going to put up with your bullshit either, but nice try.
July 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Meade has left a new comment on the post "A Portrait Of The Vortex":

How dare you advertise your wares here, REDACTED , when you can't even fill orders from months ago that you have taken payment on and already spent the money? You disappoint me greatly.

Posted by Meade to Comment Home at July 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Meade has left a new comment on the post "A Portrait Of The Vortex":

"I'm really embarrassed to have not yet fulfilled my order"

Good. You should be embarrassed. At least embarrassed. Spare me your pretentious "I shall" bullshit, REDACTED . You are a cheat and a false friend to Ann Althouse. Lead the way over here. You have plenty of followers.

Posted by Meade to Comment Home at July 22, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Meade has left a new comment on the post "A Portrait Of The Vortex":

"I feel terrible for REDACTED , though. That was unnecessary.
Like shooting a mockingbird." [- Pogo]

Bull. REDACTED is a fraud. He has a business in which he solicits money for product he does not have. He takes payment, deposits it, and spends it. He has no product to ship nor money to refund. He should be investigated for criminal fraud. But go ahead, Pogo, and others, enable him, you True Conservatives. True friends. True fakes.

Posted by Meade to Comment Home at July 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Meade said...

Think for yourselves, people. But think.

JAL said...

Couple things - re comenting / blogging about good things -- that can mean bad things too, of course. It's the good comments on whatever that makes it all good.

I just don't get why so many are letting certain people live rent free ... you know the script. Walk away from the neuroses. Heaven knows we have enough between us all (along with great stuff :- )) to make it interesting without the level of toxicity that has been revealed.

As with others above -- over the years I have found you commenters challenging, informative, creative, terribly funny and just a fun place to hang out. Quite unlike any other blog I have cruised through.

Though why a couple folks have showed up here is a mystery to me. One in particular is nothing but a relentless nag about how ugly everyone is, was and will be.

Please. Go away if that's all you have to offer. There's more to life and commenting than trash talking. And most commenters here know that.

Just my thoughts.

Anonymous said...
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shiloh said...

Re: worthless crap ...

This thread must have touched a nerve w/mommy's little boy.

Meade. many here really, really dislike you. Why do you want to post at a place where you're persona non grata by the majority. Unless you're a childish troll who gets his kicks disrupting blog(s).

Regardless, please try to control your emotions.

shiloh said...

btw Meade, you appear to be as anal-retentive as Althouse. Congrats!

Anonymous said...

Well thank you for saying so Bagoh@12:45.

Darcy said...

Shrieking Banshee. Would be a good name of a rock band.

Meade said...

Inga said...
"Well thank you for saying so Bagoh@12:45."

If Bagoh's 12:45 comment makes any sense, then it is plausable that the very same complaints can leveled against this very blog:

1) The supplier, refused to remedy a situation that many customers asked to be fixed which later was used by the supplier as justification for nonperformance.



2) Customers [are] never asked if withdrawing [deleting] comments [is] OK with them.



3) Customers never [say]: "no problem", "do it when you can", or "I'll wait".



4) Supplier never attempt[s] to find a reasonable accommodation for the customers put out.



5) No refund [is] forthcoming.

shiloh said...

Meade, just let it go ... on your way out the door!

test said...

shiloh said...
Meade. many here really, really dislike you


It would be more accurate to say people don't like how he's reacting.

Along the same lines your committment to a better tone seems to be waning.

shiloh said...

No, but I did apologize for one ad hominem, whereas I did commit to leaving soon, thereby setting a better tone.

Of course Meade will probably still be here after I leave er 'til the end of time ...

Meade said...

Following bagoh's logic, it seems to me that if I am forced to leave, then I, as a monetary contributor to this blog, will have some sort of actionable damages against the blog creators and those who selectively banned me.

shiloh said...

Meade, you can't be banned ie this is Blogger. But feel free to quietly leave on your own.

test said...

Meade said...actionable damages against the blog creators and those who selectively banned me.

Reading this post makes it quite difficult to agree you were banned.

Meade said...

Marshall, did you see the word "if" in my comment?

ndspinelli said...

We have seen our own Howard Beale explode right before our eyes.

test said...

Meade said...
Marshall, did you see the word "if" in my comment?


I did, but since there is no mechanism to satisfy the "if" possibility it doesn't actually mean anything.

Meade said...

One could argue that if my comments were to be continually deleted, it would amount to an effective banning.

shiloh said...

"One could argue that if"

Indeed, one could argue meaningless hypotheticals 'til the cows came home.

shiloh said...

come, not came ...

carry on

Meade said...

There are quite a number of comments here that specifically disparage a poster - me - and could be professionally and/or socially injurious to me. Why have those disparaging comments not been deleted?

justagal said...

Approaching Beijing

Aridog said...

What's that old saw...when you have facts, argue the facts, when you only have the law, argue the law, when you have nothing, pound the table?

Meade said...

What's that old saw... fool me once, shame on REDACTED; fool Aridog with more REDACTED, shame on Aridog.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

"Socially injurious?"

Is that a legal concept Meade?

And please tell me how your professional career in lawn care is injured by pointing out that you mow lawns.

Will the blades of grass and hedges look down on you professionally just because you married someone with much more education and income than you?

Do you dispute that?

shiloh said...

What's the old sayin' ~ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again, then quit ... don't be a damn fool!

rcocean said...

"it's mostly about tatas and chicks in hot pants."

And MILF's and naked cartoon characters.

And we like it that way.

Aridog said...

Something good did come out of the egregious dust up...under attack and insult “Redacted” [isn’t that cute?] revealed the depth of his tribulations and that enabled some of us to step up and help, and several people here did just that. It is what real communities do. This one may be virtual, but if we call it a community, then it is one….but only if you make it one. For the record I’ve helped people I don’t care for in my life, as I am sure others have, but help is something you give without strings attached. Like taxes without the middle man mob.

We call ourselves a community and I'd hope for the most part we are whether we like everyone around or not, if a community we would pull together. Another topic is just "who" are we? One commenter flat out stated that the Internet is for posting under whatever guise or disguise you choose, tell any lies you choose, and everyone should know that and no one should reveal any of it about anyone else. Call me naive, but going way back in to my DOD days, the purpose was more formal than that, and I'd hope most here are real...e.g., they are who they say they are, even with the protection of a nick & avatar, and would say what ever they say, face to face, if the case arose. That's probably silly, right? Maybe...but I know several here who are just that real here. We all have a greatly expanded "back fence" these days, and blogs are part of that. If I set up a sock puppet, almost anyone would quickly spot the repetitive misspellings of "because" as "becasue." I'd fool no one. If you look a bit on Google, my name is easily discovered....although there are now more "Aridogs" out there now, so it’s a bit more work…maybe 3 seconds and two clicks, or so. .

In the same vein, once the gauze of TOP was removed, I found myself appreciating commenters who I previously didn't, and I hereby apologize to those liberal folks I made caustic or egregious remarks to in the past. Same for those conservatives I’ve offended. I was wrong, you add more than I do, and when we differ it is good for me. However, in a couple instances, which have carried their sock puppetry and bad faith over here, the bad faith remains and I've learned to ignore it, even when they address me. Go ahead and pound that table. My response is “La la la”….I learned that from TOP.

One of you contacted me privately and asked that I stop responding to a particular person for reasons I’ll not discuss here. Suffice that it made sense. An additional bad faith commenter appeared from a source I didn't expect, and yes, I'm sorry, I lost my temper, but not a bit sorry for my actions thereafter. As I've said earlier, here, good did come out of it. A community member was helped. Some of us have experiences that tell us you reach out to the right and left of ourselves when necessary, or you might die. “Affection” per se, or not, has nothing to do with it. When you give of yourself, it is for yourself…that is the no strings part.

The Dude said...

Pathology? Box wine is more like it!

Meade said...

Aridog, too long, didn't read it except for the first sentence. Redacted bothers you? How about Mockingbird?

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

You apologize to this community, but not the parties you harmed, amazing.

Anonymous said...

The certain person wants to let you know that my daughter is a person with a profession and a high profile job in government. Your " antics" could've harmed her significantly. I'm still waiting for your apology to her and myself, Aridog. Asshole.

Meade said...

"I'd fool no one. If you look a bit on Google, my name is easily discovered....although there are now more "Aridogs" out there now, so it’s a bit more work…maybe 3 seconds and two clicks, or so."

You put your full name and phone number in a comment just the other night, you dope. What, are you high?

shiloh said...

Am I the only one who thought Meade wasn't the least bit funny at TOP? And it's not because he's a con, as I find many libs just as unfunny.

And I'm not talkin' about when Meade et al cons say something sarcastic about Obama etc. and many cons quietly smirk.

Every time he's said something at this blog which he thinks is clever I quietly cringe thinkin' yea, that may have been funny in grade school.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

You know.....no one would know you even HAVE a daughter or children if YOU hadn't brought it up, posted her/their photos on the internet, on in uniform to give us all your military mom creds, told us what she does for a living, told us basically where you and she live, posted photos of your house, and all other sorts of personal information like what you did for a living, what your deceased husband did for a living, stuff about your grandkids, photos of yourself ad nauseum and so on. None of that stuff gets on the internet unless YOU put it there.

No one cares about you OR your daughter(s). Really...NO. ONE. CARES. So if you want privacy, I would suggest you STFU and stop revealing things about yourself and then bitching because people know things about you.

Aridog said...

Meade said ...

You put your full name and phone number in a comment just the other night, you dope. What, are you high?

Cute. And just why do you think I was so at ease with doing that? Before you did it for me that is?

...fool Aridog ... shame on Aridog.

You just do get it. No surprise. Anyone who fools me, hurts themselves in the long run, not me. Did you not understand what I meant by "no strings attached"?

Oh, that's right, you didn't read it. You fooled me for a good while, and I'm no less for it. And you?

Meade said...

" And just why do you think I was so at ease with doing that?"

So you were high. Are you now?

Aridog said...

Inga said...

You apologize to this community, but not the parties you harmed, amazing.

I will respond one time only. You are lying. Not that I care. I did NOT identify your daughter on a post at TOP, you did that.

Now you've accused two of us of doing the same thing. Which was it? Both? One? Or just YOU?

Do I care. No. You are lying.


Aridog said...

Meade said...

So you were high. Are you now?

La la la ...

Meade said...

Are you lying, Inga? Because, if you're lying, I'll have to take Aridog's side. But if you are not lying, then either you are mistaken or Aridog is lying.

Of course, my default position on anything and everything on the internet is: everybody is lying. Don't trust until you verify is my motto.

test said...

Meade said...
There are quite a number of comments here that specifically disparage a poster - me


When everyone else was committing to improving their tone you were intentionally pissing on them. You must be shocked to find out pissing on people doesn't generate goodwill. Shocked.

- and could be professionally and/or socially injurious to me. Why have those disparaging comments not been deleted?

It's hard to see how this could be true. Given your Madison locale I find it much more likely your social and professional standing would be improved if your potential social partners and customers read that your former commenters disparaged you. I think you owe the blog a donation.

ndspinelli said...

There are many people I trust on the internet. I was a PI, but if you have just some basic social skills, one can pick out those worthy of trust. People who believe you can trust no one are simply projecting their untrustworthiness and/or lack of social skills.

Meade said...

Okay, Marshal. And you and all the free riders here owe the Althouse blog - and Lem's - a donation.

test said...

Deal.

Anonymous said...

DBQ, you idiot. This was NOT my daughter in the military. It was a different daughter. Mind your own fucking business.

Anonymous said...

No Meade I am not lying. Aridog posted a picture of my daughter that he found on my Pinterest site, with her real name.

Anonymous said...

And Methadras was in on it with him. They were quiet pleased with themselves. Such nice people, such good people.

Anonymous said...

Since when is it acceptable to go to a commenters Pinterest site or Facebook site and post pictures and names of people who are following them there on the Althouse blog!? God you people are low despicable human beings, disgusting.

Meade said...

And you know for certain that Aridog is the person who did that?

Anonymous said...

DBQ,
So I don't get to discuss my family and my children, right. Only others here get to mention their children. You yourself have talked about your daughter, your divorce, how your husband cheated on you, NO WONDER.

Anonymous said...

Yes.

Anonymous said...

And Methadras was in on it. He and Aridog were discussing my Facebook site and my Pinterest site TOGETHER.

Aridog said...

Meade sez ...

... you and all the free riders here owe the Althouse blog - and Lem's - a donation.

You want me to post my PayPal receipts for my "donations" to Althouse as well as Lem's place.

I never see any point in taking credit for that stuff, donations, helping others, etc...but you keep making it hard no to do so. Punk.

Anonymous said...

Inga is quite mad, don't you know.

Meade said...

Inga, do you remember the specific post at Althouse, or the approximate date, that the information you allege was posted?

Dust Bunny Queen said...

It was a different daughter. Mind your own fucking business.

The one who is a lawyer or works in the legal fields and whose husband is a stay at home dad. YOU gave everyone this information. WE didn't ask for it.

I have a Pinterest site also but NO ONE can post anything on my site but me. NO ONE. Perhaps you should get one of your kids to give you and Internet 101 lesson.

Anonymous said...

It was a super long thread about a month ago, six weeks ago? At the very end of the thread. I'm going to go look for it.

Meade said...

Aridog, are you a 'free rider"? Drip.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Facebook sites can be private as well. You can only allow invited guests to have access to the site and only certain levels.

If you smear your children's pictures all over the internet, leave your Facebook account open to anyone, post pictures and names on the Internet, put personal information on Pinterest...... whose fault is that?

Seriously, Inga. I really don't think you understand the mechanics of the Internet.

Michael Haz said...

Inga, you should sue the hell out of whoever runs the blog where your private information was posted. They were wrong to let it happen. Negligent! Had they used comment moderation like many other fine blogs do, your private life and your children's privacy would never have been compromised.

Tort them back to the Stone Age.

Meade said...

Micahael Haz publicly gives legal advice. With a license? Or without?

Aridog said...

Meade ... answer the question. It is a simple yes or no. You're pounding the table.

Meade said...

Aridog, I want you to feel free to do whatever you want to do and to take responsibility for your own decisions and actions, big boy.

Anonymous said...

STUPID CUNT, I didn't post the picture on my Pinterest page, he went onto my Pinterst page, looked to see who was following me there and stole the fucking picture and put it on an Althouse blog post. seriously why are you interjecting your ignorant comments here?

Michael Haz said...

Inga, no doubt there are many highly skilled attorneys in the county where you live and the next county east. Internet law and privacy are important. You'd be doing a wise thing to consult several attorneys to determine what kind of case you may have. You should do it for your family.

Heck, you already know from seeing it that the owners of the blog have disclosed private information about other people. Willfully and maliciously.

Anonymous said...

I put no personal info on my Pinterest page. GAWD you are STUPID.

Aridog said...

Meade ... Another deflection. I'm impressed.



Anonymous said...

Haz I suggest you butt out.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

"Idiot DBQ, He did not post anything on my Pinterest site you stupid bitch,"

Perhaps you need to be a bit more precise. Words DO mean things, you know.

Since when is it acceptable to go to a commenters Pinterest site or Facebook site and post pictures and names of people who are following them there on the Althouse blog!?

Given your words above, it appeared as as if someone was posting on your site. Your statment is really rather confused. Did they post things about you or about the commenters on the Althous blog? Where did they (whoever THEY are) post these things?

You have to realize that ANYTHING you put up on an unprotected site on the internet is going to be public. Plus with the NSA.....even protected sites and emails are compromised.

Meade said...

Aridog, you want someone to tell you what to do? How to act? How to think? Call your mother.

Aridog said...

Inga said...

I put no personal info on my Pinterest page ...

Interesting. Then how would anyone know your that was your daughter? Unless you told them of course.

Michael Haz said...

Inga-don't let them talk you out of it. If they even try then they must be worried. Sue them for what they did to you.

Aridog said...

Meade .... Deflection # 3. After you alleged we all owed you, Ann and Lem money, I merely asked you if you wanted me to prove my contributions? Yes or no?

I have already clearly said I prefer no credit. You are the one demanding cash from "free loaders" and purporting no one pays up. You're calling your own bluff.

Anonymous said...

You Aridog posted a picture of a woman you TOOK off of my Pinterest page from people who were following me. IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER if she was my daughter or not. Since when is it appropriate or even legal to post an image of a person on a blog WITHOUT their permission? What do you not understand about it not being right? WHY did you do it? To silence me?

Why would any normal person feel the need to invade another commenters Pinterest site and post pictures of their followers?

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Since when is it appropriate or even legal to post an image of a person on a blog WITHOUT their permission?

Since....like always. Unless you copyright or encrypt your photographs you might as well be strewing them from the sky like the turkeys in WKRP Cincinnati

Aridog said...

BTW...my computer crashed and died an ugly death yesterday, and when I got my travel-photo laptop running on our router, I checked in to see whatz zup. I find this long old thread that is still alive so I read it end to end...very amusing, perfect relaxation after a long day.

A new Dell arrives next week, a very nice "Katherine" in Texas took care of every detail., with a direct phone number to get back to if need be, etc.

I'll read the other threads tomorrow. Maybe. If there is more of this maybe not. My mommy wouldn't want me getting all dirty again.

President-Mom-Jeans said...

I think I have to agree with Michael Haz. You really should being suing that blog that so maliciously put up the information that you claim is illegal.

Do it.

Meade said...

Aridog said...
"Meade .... Deflection # 3. After you alleged we all owed you, Ann and Lem money,[...]"

Quote where I "alleged [you] all owed", ya big dumb knee jerk baby. Incidentally, this was a big part of the reason for closing the comments at Althouse - too many commenters who refused to read for comprehension. Perhaps many of you were high. Or drunk. Does that apply specifically to you, Aridog? Makes no difference. Repetitive boring thoughtless crap. Drove good commenters away. Wah wha wha.

Aridog said...

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER if she was my daughter ...

Yet that has been your main squawk all this time.

Meade said...

Aridog said...
"DBQ, you ignorant slut ...oh wait, this isn't SNL.
Sorry...couldn't resist."

Do you all see? This is typical of the kind of comment crap we had to sift through day after day, year after year. You cannot pay me enough to ever go back.

Hey, try not to crap up Lem's place, will ya?

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Anonymous said...

It makes it WORSE that it is my daughter you asshole. It still is wrong to post pictures of my Pinterest followers at any rate. They had NOTHING to do with the Althouse blog. I did not post but one or two wedding things on there and used it to follow my daughter when she had her wedding ideas on it. I DID NOT POST her picture on my Pinterest page. He went onto HER page to get her picture, or got it from a listing of my Pinterest followers.

You need to apologize to HER and me.

Aridog said...

Meade said...

Okay, Marshal. And you and all the free riders here owe the Althouse blog - and Lem's - a donation.

Really?

Since you mention it, asked for the quote and all, you could reasonably say I was merely trying to exclude myself from "all the free riders here" and identify if I owed Althouse or Lem anything.

You'll pardon me know, gotta get back to my pot still in the garage.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Do you all see?

No I don't see. Are you trying to say your blog was a stronger comedic institution than Saturday Night Live?

SNL wasn't about just self-parody, though, so perhaps you might have something going for you there.

Aridog said...

Meade...I have said little or nothing for a couple days here, and in this instance I am responding to you, and Inga, and your crap you dumping.

But I'm done. Let's see if you and Moldilocks are too.

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President-Mom-Jeans said...

Someone followed publically available links that were posted on the internet to find a publically posted photograph with no copyright protection????

Alert Obama and Holder! File that racial discrimination suit against Meade and Althouse immediately for hosting such dangerous and obviously racist information and not moderating their comment section.

The horror, the horror.

Dare I say, ugly?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

You cannot pay me enough to ever go back.

And yet, you apparently paid to re-assemble it over here. Why?

Do you really think that if you talk enough trash, you're going to "expose" everyone here for what you'd like everyone else (and not just the voices in your own and Winebox's head) to see them as?

You won't do it. Everyone else likes it here. They only disagree on one thing: WTF to do with you.

Anonymous said...

How strange Aridog that you picked my daughters's picture to post with her name, out of the 52 people who are following me on Pinterest, WHY, why did you pick her?

test said...

Ritmo,

Sssshhhh. Inga's talking.

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